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| skyR Canada. November 05 2010 07:04. Posts 11169 | Profile # |
@_Void_
If you're waiting until early 2011 to build. You probably want to wait to see the performance and pricing of Sandybridge (the second generation core i5/i7 processors from Intel).
For case, you may want to look into the coolermaster 690ii advanced which is $99 msrp.
For GPU, look into the Radeon 6850 ($179), Radeon 6870 ($239), or GTX 260 1GB ($199).
For PSU, you probably want something in the 500w - 600w range. A Seasonic or Corsair will probably be around $80
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| Myrmidon United States. November 05 2010 07:16. Posts 8484 | Profile Blog # |
| edit: slow, skyR got it Last edit: 2010-11-05 07:17:24 |
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| _Void_ Germany. November 05 2010 07:54. Posts 78 | Profile # |
Thanks, I think I'll do that and wait a few months =)
Just for reference purposes, what kind of current CPU would I need for those uses? Just so I have some kind of idea what specs I'm aiming for. |
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| FragKrag United States. November 05 2010 07:56. Posts 11068 | Profile Blog # |
| Added a small update about the 6870 and 6850 along with adding those in the GPU list. |
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| skyR Canada. November 05 2010 08:52. Posts 11169 | Profile # |
On November 05 2010 07:54 _Void_ wrote:
Thanks, I think I'll do that and wait a few months =)
Just for reference purposes, what kind of current CPU would I need for those uses? Just so I have some kind of idea what specs I'm aiming for.
You'd want a quad core (preferably one with hyperthreading for video editing/rendering). Something like the core i7 860 for $280 or core i7 950 for $295. Remember that the core i7 9 series uses socket 1366 while everything else is on socket 1156. Socket 1366 motherboards are often more expensive because it supports QPI and triple-channel memory. But with your budget, you are most likely only able to afford a quad core without hyperthreading such as the core i5 750 for $190. This will work wonders for gaming but video editing/rendering will just be a tad slower than those quad cores with hyperthreading.
Intel is first releasing the successor to socket 1156 in January 2011 and the main processors that will be available to pick from are core i5 2400, core i5 2500, core i7 2600. Socket 1366 successor isn't going to be out until the second half of 2011.
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| Condor Hero United States. November 08 2010 09:03. Posts 2672 | Profile Blog # |
I recently bought a computer from Cyberpower for playing SC2. The system works out pretty good, I can play at a high setting without too many problems.
However the fan is loud as all hell. I'm looking to switch to another fan.
The fan i got is:
Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA)
can anyone recommend me a quieter fan? My main emphasis is how quiet it can be without too much impact on performance. |
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| penroff4 United States. November 08 2010 12:36. Posts 8 | Profile # |
Hey guys, I'm going to buy a Geforce 460 1GB but I'm worried how it'll run in my older computer. I'm slowly upgrading my comp part by part and this was the first thing I plan to get (there's a good dea right now).
The biggest issues I can see with going ahead and installing the card are power, mobo, and cooling. I have a 600 watt power supply, two fans (120mm, 110 mm CPU fan), and a mobo with a PCI Express slot running at x16. Also I've got 2GB of ram and an Intel Core 2 Duo running at 2.66 GHz. As I understand it the issue with the slot should be the lower transfer speed (it's PCI Express 1.0 as opposed to 2.0).
Other than that, any ideas on the compatibitlity? Or should I wait to get a new mobo and maybe a couple more fans? Thanks!Last edit: 2010-11-08 12:36:14 |
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| skyR Canada. November 08 2010 12:41. Posts 11169 | Profile # |
@penroff4
PCI-E 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, 2.1 are all backwards compatible unless the motherboard manufacturer did a terrible job with its board.
GTX 460 is not fast enough to saturate PCI-E 1.0 so there is no need to worry about it bottlenecking your card. |
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| penroff4 United States. November 09 2010 04:01. Posts 8 | Profile # |
| Awesome. So should I be worried about power or cooling at all? |
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| Augury United States. November 09 2010 04:03. Posts 756 | Profile Blog # |
Western Digital 500 GB Caviar Black SATA 7200 RPM 32 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive WD5001AALS
Cooler Master Elite 310 ATX, MATX Mid Tower Case with Window RC-310-SWN1-GP (Black/Silver)
Corsair TWIN2X4096-6400C5C 4GB XMS2 PC2-6400 800Mhz 240-pin Dual Channel DDR2 Desktop Memory
Gigabyte AMD AM3 6 Core MotherBoard GA-880GM-UD2H
AMD Athlon II X4 640 Propus 3.0 GHz 4x512 KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor - Retail ADX640WFGMBOX
Do these look okay, I already have the PSU I'm going to use, and a GTS 250.
Thanks :D |
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| Gandalf Pakistan. November 09 2010 04:35. Posts 1749 | Profile # |
A friend of mine is looking to upgrade his GPU and wants to be able to run games like SC2 and a bunch of other stuff he plays at higher settings with decent fps.
His system is a q9550 + Intel DG43NB motherboard/chipset, 4gb DDR2 RAM, 600W PSU. He says he wont be overclocking so the capabilities of GPUs with regards to this are irrelevant to him.
He rejected the GTX470 because hes not comfortable with how hot it gets. Currently his choices are down to the following cards:
1) gtx460 1gb
2) hd5870
3) hd6870
He can afford any of the above, and is leaning towards the HD5870 right now. Is that a wise decision? What sort of temperatures can he expect from it? He mentioned something about some Vapor-X technology HD5870 from Sapphire that he says runs much cooler. Would that be a good deal? Any problems with the HD5870 and SC2?
Finally, any idea when the 69xx series is supposed to be released? He might wait if its within a reasonable period of time.
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| skyR Canada. November 09 2010 05:48. Posts 11169 | Profile # |
@penroff4
Power should not be an issue if you have a 600W PSU. But if it is a low quality brand or a case PSU than i'd double check to see what amperage it provides on the 12v rails. I wouldn't worry too much about it. If you don't have any case intake fans or ventilation than cooling might be an issue.
@Gandalf
The 6900 series will be released by year's end. The expected date is sometime at the end of November.
What temps aren't your friend comfortable with? Is it possible that he is just freaking out for no reason? The GPU's idle/load temps are highly dependent on ambient temps so no one can tell you exactly what to expect. Idle temps can be anywhere from 30c - 50c and load temps can be anywhere from 50c - 80c with any of cards you mentioned.Last edit: 2010-11-09 05:52:22 |
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| Gandalf Pakistan. November 09 2010 06:01. Posts 1749 | Profile # |
He says he said some review which said the GTX470 can approach 90C while playing games, and that hes just not comfortable with that sort of temperature because he feels his casing/cooling system isnt too appropriate for it.
The VaporX 5870 attracts him for this very reason, since reported temps under load for it are under 70C.
In any case, since the 6900 series is due so soon, its only reasonable to wait.
Is his computer otherwise capable of supporting these cards, specifically his PSU? |
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| deconduo Ireland. November 09 2010 06:43. Posts 3572 | Profile Blog # |
On November 09 2010 06:01 Gandalf wrote:
He says he said some review which said the GTX470 can approach 90C while playing games, and that hes just not comfortable with that sort of temperature because he feels his casing/cooling system isnt too appropriate for it.
The VaporX 5870 attracts him for this very reason, since reported temps under load for it are under 70C.
In any case, since the 6900 series is due so soon, its only reasonable to wait.
Is his computer otherwise capable of supporting these cards, specifically his PSU?
Would need to know the exact make and model number of the PSU. |
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| R04R United States. November 09 2010 06:44. Posts 1134 | Profile # |
Everything is compatible with the graphics cards, but knowing the specifics of his PSU would be helpful.
Brand
Model name
+12v Amperage
Single/Multi +12v rail(s)
6-pin Power Cord connectors
Date purchase/Age |
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| Gandalf Pakistan. November 09 2010 06:52. Posts 1749 | Profile # | |
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| Gandalf Pakistan. November 09 2010 06:53. Posts 1749 | Profile # |
| Oh and its a little over a year old. |
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| 1312020 United States. November 09 2010 07:18. Posts 28 | Profile # |
| Quick question. The family computer in my house is pretty terrible, a Radeon X300 and an old dual core pentium-D. It plays Team Fortress 2 at about 20 fps, and I haven't bothered with SC2. Basically, would a Radeon 4550 provide a boost in playability up to say 30-40 fps on lowest settings? Because they're on sale for 12 dollars on Newegg and I would be willing to shell out if it will make it playable for my friends when they come over. |
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| Gandalf Pakistan. November 09 2010 07:20. Posts 1749 | Profile # |
He's not going to be happy when he reads this, haha. In Pakistan there are only two mainstream PSU brands available, Cooler Master and Corsair, and the latter is fairly more expensive. However, if I'm not mistaken, the gtx285 is more power hungry than the 5870, so shouldnt the fact that his computer ran fine for over a year with no hanging/freezing/crashing etc indicate he'll probably be okay?
Otherwise I suppose he'll have to spring for a new PSU, in which case the 6870 might be a more attractive buy. |
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