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StratWaffle United States. June 02 2012 14:18. Posts 28
I was looking at this board. It seemed fine, it had a bunch of SATA ports and supported PCIe 3.0. It also had decent rating. is there anything else I should be looking for in a board? I don't mind paying more if there is an actual good reason to go with a different board.
At the end of the day this platform would only cost me about 100-150 more than using an i5 so I figured why not spoil myself and it should be more future proof than an i5-2500k would be. I'm going to use it for gaming and streaming, not much else. I won't be using a crossfire set up.
warranty, how reputable is the company, does it fit what I need (CPU socket, 4/8 ram slots, USB 3, pci-e lanes, sata ports, etc) overclockability, pricing, quality of board components are the things I would look for in a motherboard. With that being said the asrock one you mentioned is a good board if you're willing to spend the money for it, since most 2011 boards are quite expensive. Fillin out the OP and saying that you have a 3930 already would help.
Sorry, I must of missed something? You wanted more info? I put that I had a 3930k, or have one ordered.
i was talking about this, but seems like your question was answered so its fine dont worry about it now. + Show Spoiler +
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Myrmidon United States. June 02 2012 14:34. Posts 8554
A quick search says the Adesso MKB-125B uses Cherry MX Blue switches, not particularly peoples' favorites for gaming, but as always YMMV.
Yeah I may go with that HD 6570, and I'll definitely ask at microcenter about a cheaper mobo. Why do you recommend that Adesso over the keyboard I originally linked? Why is it not recommended by some gamers?
And thanks for the quick response.
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SHODAN United Kingdom. June 02 2012 18:01. Posts 220
I do not want to build my own computer. I want to buy a branded or custom built computer, but I don't know where to look. I'm from the UK and I'm looking through sites like 3XS scan, overclockers, and PCspecialist for deals. I'm afraid of going overkill, buying features I don't need, and concerned about being ripped off.
Budget: £800-1,100 ($1,200-1,500) Resolution: I don't know! I play SCII at 1366-768 on my laptop. I don't own a monitor yet. Using it for: playing SCII competitively at highest possible graphics settings and streaming with Xsplit.
I'm configuring a PC a friend recommended on the 3XS scan site. Intel Core i5 2500K overclocked to 4.5GHZ. Would 4GB ram be enough to run SCII on ultra? and is this graphics card overkill? If so, what would you guys recommend?
Yeah yeah yeah I know where I could have done better. The CX was the cheapest 80plus (not even bronze) that they had unless I went with something I didn't know about. The case is kind of gross. It's small... thin... no filters not great airflow... My case for my build is a Cosmos. I had no idea how crappy it was to build in a 30$ case until now. I HAD to save in some places because I had to get the price as low as possible (my wife didn't approve the $750 build). Here's a lesson... if you want a $600 build ask for a $900 build and then say you'll see what you can cut away from it all disappointed like). The only reason I went with the 3570k and z77 MB is that it was an insane sale... I was going to build with H61 and 2400 but it was only like $60 cheaper?? Not worth it for the upgradability. The 80GB seagate seems to be pretty decent. I was thinking about getting an SSD and putting my 500 7200rpm drive in and using a storage drive but that would be a lot of uninstalling and reinstalling.
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Nuttyguy United Kingdom. June 02 2012 23:00. Posts 967
Looking to upgrade my computer (more like buy) i only need a CPU/MOBO/RAM for cpu i've already decided Intel Core i5 3570K but i have no idea on mobo + ram. For ram looking for 8gb to 16gb, so its got to be a 2x4gb stick so i can buy ram later and add it on if i need/want to. Mobo, no idea too many chipsets and what not. Plans for overclocking, yes but not on purchase.
So for this i want to spend ~£300, hopefully on the downside. i can spend more ram if its transferable to newer chipsets like haswell boards. GPU gtx 260 going to reuse PSU some overkill corsair 650w? or something its overkill.
Quick questions Triple vs dual channel seems negligible? Is ram tranferable to newer boards when they come out for haswell cpus etc
might have missed something ill post more info if needed. P.S want to buy ASAP.
Yes it will. However your graphic's settings will be ~med/high at most. I personally play at everything on low except shaders at medium (it will also make shadows medium) and models on high. It's what I've found to be the best quality at lowest possible settings.
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Nuttyguy United Kingdom. June 03 2012 01:45. Posts 967
Does these work together? and any feedback on price / better alternatives im willing to pay more if it works out better in the long run, not the cpu but the ram/mobo. Im probably going to buy it on wednesday since its bank holiday/jubliee.
On June 02 2012 08:16 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: [b]1. I'm probably not going to do any overclocking and really have no use for any extraneous motherboard features. Is the selected motherboard overkill? Just right?
This is going to be fragmented since I don't want to quote your whole post: - Then don't get a K series processor and a Z77 processor. Buy a Intel Core i5-3450 and cheap B75 motherboard. - Ivy Bridge is more power efficient, has slightly more performance, and has better integrated graphics. That's the difference. No reason not to get Ivy Bridge unless Sandy Bridge options are a lot cheaper. Since you don't want to overclock, there's no point picking either - pick the option I provided above. - Overclocking is nice but not a deal breaker. Its preferred if you're going to stream heavily but you save a lot of cash in the processes by buying cheaper hardware. - No CPU cooler is required if not overclocking. CPU coolers is nice if you want to cut down on noise dramatically. - Ask the headphone thread. Personally I'd get an external USB DAC since computer systems are dreadful for internal audio systems. - Ditch the Caviar Black and get cheaper 7200RPM drives. You're paying extra for warranty, which is fine, but probably not worth the huge difference. - Only need 400W for that system. As previously mentioned, the Rosewill Capstone 450W is a fine choice. Corsair 400R is a fine case too. - Depending on budget remaining, you may want to throw in an SSD. Current generation Crucial, Intel, Samsung SSDs are probably the best.
If I were to want to not overclock initially but do it eventually, I guess I would stick with a z77 mobo and 3570k? Looking at ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard, since it seems to be reviewed pretty favorably in the Anandtech article and I don't believe I really need any of the extra features of the higher end mobos.
For that, would it be better to just buy the CPU cooler now instead of getting it when I actually want to OC? If so recommendations? Also would I need the 620W PS then? Because I assume when OCing 400W won't be enough.