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Hello, I want to build an awesome gaming PC that I can comfortably use for at least 4-5 years, with minimum upgrade in those years. I live in Japan so my purchase sources are quite limitted. Here's an example of what I'm considering from a Japanese BTO site:
Primary Monitor: BenQ XL2420T 24 inch for 120Hz gaming Secondary Monitor: BenQ GW2750HM 27inch for other uses
Total comes around to just over 300,000 yen, which is just under $4000 USD
Here are some questions I have: - Is the price too expensive for the hardware I'm getting? (not sure how currency conversion comes into play here) - Is it better to buy $2000ish PC now and upgrade 2-3 years later? For example, if I only buy a single GTX680, how much price drop can I expect when I buy a second one in 2-3 years? or how much improvement in new GTX model can I except for the same price range?? - related to my previous question, is the setup a bad choice in terms of performance/cost ratio? - does anyone have experience with 120Hz monitor for gaming? I read reviews saying that the smoothness is quite noticable, although I thought human eye can't tell past 60Hz. I basically want two GTX680 so I can run games at 120FPS
I guess the biggest question is 120Hz gaming. If I drop that I can buy cheaper monitor and go with single GTX680. How awesome is 120Hz!!??!??
Gaming desktop noob with a lot of money to spend...but I still don't want to make poor purchase. So I will appreciate any input, thanks!
Edit: I guess I should also consider single GTX690 vs GTX680 SLI too...
gonna repeat myself because noone answered to my earlier post.
what PSU should i get for:
i5 2500k (plan to OC) asus sabertooth p67 palit gtx 560ti (plan to OC)
can anyone suggest what PSU should i get ? (keep in mind i plan to OC) also what other PSU would u guys suggest if i want to get anoher gtx 560ti for sli?
Hello, I want to build an awesome gaming PC that I can comfortably use for at least 4-5 years, with minimum upgrade in those years. I live in Japan so my purchase sources are quite limitted. Here's an example of what I'm considering from a Japanese BTO site:
Primary Monitor: BenQ XL2420T 24 inch for 120Hz gaming Secondary Monitor: BenQ GW2750HM 27inch for other uses
Total comes around to just over 300,000 yen, which is just under $4000 USD
Here are some questions I have: - Is the price too expensive for the hardware I'm getting? (not sure how currency conversion comes into play here) - Is it better to buy $2000ish PC now and upgrade 2-3 years later? For example, if I only buy a single GTX680, how much price drop can I expect when I buy a second one in 2-3 years? or how much improvement in new GTX model can I except for the same price range?? - related to my previous question, is the setup a bad choice in terms of performance/cost ratio? - does anyone have experience with 120Hz monitor for gaming? I read reviews saying that the smoothness is quite noticable, although I thought human eye can't tell past 60Hz. I basically want two GTX680 so I can run games at 120FPS
I guess the biggest question is 120Hz gaming. If I drop that I can buy cheaper monitor and go with single GTX680. How awesome is 120Hz!!??!??
Gaming desktop noob with a lot of money to spend...but I still don't want to make poor purchase. So I will appreciate any input, thanks!
Edit: I guess I should also consider single GTX690 vs GTX680 SLI too...
Gaming does not need 16gb of RAM or a core i7 and this won't change anytime soon. You are just throwing money away here.
ADATA Premier Pro is a shit choice of an SSD in this sort of configuration.
It's better to invest in components that will last forever (case, heatsink, power supply, SSD) and upgrade the CPU / GPU in four years as GPU performance will likely be doubled by that time.
If you're doing direct conversion, ya it's overpriced at $4000.
gonna repeat myself because noone answered to my earlier post.
what PSU should i get for:
i5 2500k (plan to OC) asus sabertooth p67 palit gtx 560ti (plan to OC)
can anyone suggest what PSU should i get ? (keep in mind i plan to OC) also what other PSU would u guys suggest if i want to get anoher gtx 560ti for sli?
We don't know the availability of PSUs to you so it's hard to recommend one. Any quality 500w unit can run an overclocked 2500k and single GPU configuration, 650w for SLI.
LCD panels do sample and hold. That's what causes trailing. 120hz monitors decreases the sample and hold duration, hence reducing the length image retention occurs, hence decreasing ghosting.
Hello, I want to build an awesome gaming PC that I can comfortably use for at least 4-5 years, with minimum upgrade in those years. I live in Japan so my purchase sources are quite limitted. Here's an example of what I'm considering from a Japanese BTO site:
Primary Monitor: BenQ XL2420T 24 inch for 120Hz gaming Secondary Monitor: BenQ GW2750HM 27inch for other uses
Total comes around to just over 300,000 yen, which is just under $4000 USD
Here are some questions I have: - Is the price too expensive for the hardware I'm getting? (not sure how currency conversion comes into play here) - Is it better to buy $2000ish PC now and upgrade 2-3 years later? For example, if I only buy a single GTX680, how much price drop can I expect when I buy a second one in 2-3 years? or how much improvement in new GTX model can I except for the same price range?? - related to my previous question, is the setup a bad choice in terms of performance/cost ratio? - does anyone have experience with 120Hz monitor for gaming? I read reviews saying that the smoothness is quite noticable, although I thought human eye can't tell past 60Hz. I basically want two GTX680 so I can run games at 120FPS
I guess the biggest question is 120Hz gaming. If I drop that I can buy cheaper monitor and go with single GTX680. How awesome is 120Hz!!??!??
Gaming desktop noob with a lot of money to spend...but I still don't want to make poor purchase. So I will appreciate any input, thanks!
Edit: I guess I should also consider single GTX690 vs GTX680 SLI too...
And btw, you definitely don't need a 1200W PSU for your setup
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Hey guys, I'm a bit confused about some things I've been reading about upgrading my computer. I just got a pretty fat cheque, and I'm getting another soon, so I'm probably going to build myself a new PC. The budget is around $2000 CAD, and I want to buy everything except keyboard, mouse, and speakers.
*CASE: Looking for good airflow and enough space for a dual GPU setup. Will this do? I also want this computer to be pretty quiet, so if you guys know any quality quiet fans that I can use instead of stock fans, that'd be appreciated. **GPU: I already have a 6950 2GB, but the clock and mem speeds don't exactly match this one. Will this affect a crossfire setup? I'm having a very hard time finding an identical card to mine; I think they're out of production. My current one is a reference card but I never played around with unlocking it to a 6970. ***PSU: Just looking for a reliable PSU that can handle 2 6950s, which each require 2 6-pins IIRC. ****MOBO: The mobo is where most of my confusion lies. I don't know what sort of PCI-e configuration I should be looking for. This one claims to have 2 PCI-e 3.0 x16 - will that work for my crossfire needs? Will my cards be compatible with this board, being ATI, and will they be allowed to both run on x16? Do I need to concern myself with 2.0/3.0 and lane count? *****CPU: This is pretty much the best CPU that I can get for gaming without getting serious diminishing returns on price/performance, right?
Thanks in advance for your help, techies!
EDIT: one more question, regarding the monitor. Should I spring for some sort of 120Hz shenanigans? I'm mostly interested in something fairly large, and 1920x1200 is a bonus because it fits with WACOM tablet aspect ratios, so this was pretty much what I figured I'd settle on.
Last edit: 2012-06-25 16:38:16
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Hey guys, I'm a bit confused about some things I've been reading about upgrading my computer. I just got a pretty fat cheque, and I'm getting another soon, so I'm probably going to build myself a new PC. The budget is around $2000 CAD, and I want to buy everything except keyboard, mouse, and speakers.
*Looking for good airflow and enough space for a dual GPU setup. Will this do? I also want this computer to be pretty quiet, so if you guys know any quality quiet fans that I can use instead of stock fans, that'd be appreciated. **I already have a 6950 2GB, but the clock and mem speeds don't exactly match this one. Will this affect a crossfire setup? I'm having a very hard time finding an identical card to mine; I think they're out of production. My current one is a reference card but I never played around with unlocking it to a 6970. ***Just looking for a reliable PSU that can handle 2 6950s, which each require 2 6-pins IIRC. ****The mobo is where most of my confusion lies. I don't know what sort of PCI-e configuration I should be looking for. This one claims to have 2 PCI-e 3.0 x16 - will that work for my crossfire needs? Will my cards be compatible with this board, being ATI, and will they be allowed to both run on x16? Do I need to concern myself with 2.0/3.0 and lane count? *****This is pretty much the best CPU that I can get for gaming without getting serious diminishing returns on price/performance, right?
Thanks in advance for your help, techies!
EDIT: one more question, regarding the monitor. Should I spring for some sort of 120Hz shenanigans? I'm mostly interested in something fairly large, and 1920x1200 is a bonus because it fits with WACOM tablet aspect ratios, so this was pretty much what I figured I'd settle on.
Pretty sure there aren't any 1920x1200 120Hz monitors. U2412M would be the best option for 1920x1200 unless you need a U2410.
Quiet and SLI don't go together? Cases full of mesh are also not quiet.
You can just underclock or overclock for CrossfireX, the cards you purchase don't have to be identical.
You don't need 750w for a CrossfireX 6950 configuration. 650w is enough. Corsair TXv2 is a good line of PSUs if you're a Corsair fan. Rosewill Capstone is better in performance per dollar.
You don't have to concern yourself about PCI-E. 3.0, 2.0, 2.1, etc are all backwards and forward compatible. G45 is x8 x8 which is basically what you want. If you want x16 x16 then you're going to have to spend $300+ on a motherboard. The 6950 and all current cards cannot utilize PCI-E 3.0 x16 or x8 fully.
Yep 3570k is highest you should go for gaming.
You're missing a heatsink.
Newegg also sucks. Enormous shipping, long shipping, and no pricematching. Buy from a Canadian retailer instead such as NCIX.
Hey guys, I'm a bit confused about some things I've been reading about upgrading my computer. I just got a pretty fat cheque, and I'm getting another soon, so I'm probably going to build myself a new PC. The budget is around $2000 CAD, and I want to buy everything except keyboard, mouse, and speakers.
*Looking for good airflow and enough space for a dual GPU setup. Will this do? I also want this computer to be pretty quiet, so if you guys know any quality quiet fans that I can use instead of stock fans, that'd be appreciated. **I already have a 6950 2GB, but the clock and mem speeds don't exactly match this one. Will this affect a crossfire setup? I'm having a very hard time finding an identical card to mine; I think they're out of production. My current one is a reference card but I never played around with unlocking it to a 6970. ***Just looking for a reliable PSU that can handle 2 6950s, which each require 2 6-pins IIRC. ****The mobo is where most of my confusion lies. I don't know what sort of PCI-e configuration I should be looking for. This one claims to have 2 PCI-e 3.0 x16 - will that work for my crossfire needs? Will my cards be compatible with this board, being ATI, and will they be allowed to both run on x16? Do I need to concern myself with 2.0/3.0 and lane count? *****This is pretty much the best CPU that I can get for gaming without getting serious diminishing returns on price/performance, right?
Thanks in advance for your help, techies!
EDIT: one more question, regarding the monitor. Should I spring for some sort of 120Hz shenanigans? I'm mostly interested in something fairly large, and 1920x1200 is a bonus because it fits with WACOM tablet aspect ratios, so this was pretty much what I figured I'd settle on.
Pretty sure there aren't any 1920x1200 120Hz monitors. U2412M would be the best option for 1920x1200 unless you need a U2410.
Quiet and SLI don't go together? Cases full of mesh are also not quiet.
You can just underclock or overclock for CrossfireX, the cards you purchase don't have to be identical.
You don't need 750w for a CrossfireX 6950 configuration. 650w is enough. Corsair TXv2 is a good line of PSUs if you're a Corsair fan. Rosewill Capstone is better in performance per dollar.
You don't have to concern yourself about PCI-E. 3.0, 2.0, 2.1, etc are all backwards and forward compatible. G45 is x8 x8 which is basically what you want. If you want x16 x16 then you're going to have to spend $300+ on a motherboard. The 6950 and all current cards cannot utilize PCI-E 3.0 x16 or x8 fully.
Yep 3570k is highest you should go for gaming.
You're missing a heatsink.
Newegg also sucks. Enormous shipping, long shipping, and no pricematching. Buy from a Canadian retailer instead such as NCIX.
Thanks for the feedback. Do you have any cases and heatsinks you can recommend for my build? I will sacrifice quiet for cool, for the safety of my parts, but balance would be good. I've had bad experiences with rosewill, don't think I'll be buying from them again.
EDIT2: i should clarify about the sound issue; I don't mind if it's loud when I'm going balls to the wall xfire gaming, I just want it to be quiet when I'm watching movies or whatever. How do I achieve this? My current setup is just loud all the time ><
Last edit: 2012-06-25 17:42:36
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carmon United States. June 25 2012 19:52. Posts 113
Hello, I was browsing through motherboards in preparation for upgrading my computer and I was just wondering if there were any major differences between these two?
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Wabbit United States. June 26 2012 00:33. Posts 1007
Hey guys, I'm a bit confused about some things I've been reading about upgrading my computer. I just got a pretty fat cheque, and I'm getting another soon, so I'm probably going to build myself a new PC. The budget is around $2000 CAD, and I want to buy everything except keyboard, mouse, and speakers.
*Looking for good airflow and enough space for a dual GPU setup. Will this do? I also want this computer to be pretty quiet, so if you guys know any quality quiet fans that I can use instead of stock fans, that'd be appreciated. **I already have a 6950 2GB, but the clock and mem speeds don't exactly match this one. Will this affect a crossfire setup? I'm having a very hard time finding an identical card to mine; I think they're out of production. My current one is a reference card but I never played around with unlocking it to a 6970. ***Just looking for a reliable PSU that can handle 2 6950s, which each require 2 6-pins IIRC. ****The mobo is where most of my confusion lies. I don't know what sort of PCI-e configuration I should be looking for. This one claims to have 2 PCI-e 3.0 x16 - will that work for my crossfire needs? Will my cards be compatible with this board, being ATI, and will they be allowed to both run on x16? Do I need to concern myself with 2.0/3.0 and lane count? *****This is pretty much the best CPU that I can get for gaming without getting serious diminishing returns on price/performance, right?
Thanks in advance for your help, techies!
EDIT: one more question, regarding the monitor. Should I spring for some sort of 120Hz shenanigans? I'm mostly interested in something fairly large, and 1920x1200 is a bonus because it fits with WACOM tablet aspect ratios, so this was pretty much what I figured I'd settle on.
Pretty sure there aren't any 1920x1200 120Hz monitors. U2412M would be the best option for 1920x1200 unless you need a U2410.
Quiet and SLI don't go together? Cases full of mesh are also not quiet.
You can just underclock or overclock for CrossfireX, the cards you purchase don't have to be identical.
You don't need 750w for a CrossfireX 6950 configuration. 650w is enough. Corsair TXv2 is a good line of PSUs if you're a Corsair fan. Rosewill Capstone is better in performance per dollar.
You don't have to concern yourself about PCI-E. 3.0, 2.0, 2.1, etc are all backwards and forward compatible. G45 is x8 x8 which is basically what you want. If you want x16 x16 then you're going to have to spend $300+ on a motherboard. The 6950 and all current cards cannot utilize PCI-E 3.0 x16 or x8 fully.
Yep 3570k is highest you should go for gaming.
You're missing a heatsink.
Newegg also sucks. Enormous shipping, long shipping, and no pricematching. Buy from a Canadian retailer instead such as NCIX.
Thanks for the feedback. Do you have any cases and heatsinks you can recommend for my build? I will sacrifice quiet for cool, for the safety of my parts, but balance would be good. I've had bad experiences with rosewill, don't think I'll be buying from them again.
EDIT2: i should clarify about the sound issue; I don't mind if it's loud when I'm going balls to the wall xfire gaming, I just want it to be quiet when I'm watching movies or whatever. How do I achieve this? My current setup is just loud all the time ><
Whatever you do, don't get that 27.5" monitor, it is terrible.
Antec 1100 is a good case (in general - has a lot of good features, and is very good at cooling) but you don't necessarily need a huge case. Bigger case does not usually equal better cooling. More fans doesn't necessarily lead to better cooling either if they're not properly positioned - but most cases we'd recommend have reasonable mounting positions (not that there's much deviation from the standard).
Theoretically, if you were wanting a case that would reduce sound to virtual silence (especially when running fans at low RPM's), you could get a sound-dampened case like the Antec P280 or Fractal Design Define R3 (I'd say the Corsair 550D too but it seems overpriced in Canada). These cases also have additional fan mounts so I don't personally see much benefit in getting a case like the 1100 over them, though the 1100 probably does a much better job at cooling a high-heat configuration like something with SLI/CFX - especially two internal-exhaust cards, which seems to be what you'll have. I'd stick with the 1100 if you're happy with the looks. It'll probably be quieter under load then a dampened case due to the internal-exhaust cards.
Most cases can be made fairly quiet anyway by doing things like mounting all fans with rubber mounts, using a fan controller to turn their speed down, buying the right video cards and CPU cooling, etc.
For quiet and effective CPU cooling, I think you'll have to get the Noctua NH-C12P SE14 or NH-U12P SE2 if you want somewhat high CPU overclocking. I can't find the Thermalright HR-02 Macho in Canada... otherwise for a more moderate overclock the Xigmatek Gaia is a decent choice. However...
I wouldn't buy a CPU cooler to start with if it cuts into your monitor or SSD budget. It's not like you need the 3570K overclocked for any current gaming (except getting higher minimum frame rates in SC2, but even stock it'll run ultra easily...)
[QUOTE][B]On July 29 2011 13:35 R1CH wrote:[/B] 575W PSU for $25? ಠ_ಠ[/QUOTE]
Hey guys, I'm considering a CPU upgrade in the near future. I have done some research but still have a couple questions:
1) The computer is used for gaming and web surfing, so an i5 definitely seems to be the best choice. My first instinct is to go for the newest model (3570k), but I have read that the new intel processor generation suffers from heat issues, hurting overclocking potential and thus making the 2500k a better choice for gaming. I have an aftermarket heatsink (CM Hyper N520) so I plan on some modest overclocking...perhaps 4.2 or 4.3 ghz. Is the 3570k going to give me headaches here or is it safe enough?
2) My current CPU is an AMD, so a new motherboard will be needed as well. That itself isn't an issue, but unfortunately I have the system builder version of Win 7. Am I going to be forced to buy a new copy? Extensive googling hasn't really come up with a concrete answer here. Some people say it's impossible to work around, others say that you can get away with it by buying a similar motherboard to the old one (i.e. same brand), and still others claim that a call to MS can fix the issue. Does anyone have experience with this? CPU + Mobo + OS is a bit more money than I am able to spend right now.
Thanks in advance for any help!
An OEM copy can be re-used with minimal effort.
But how exactly do I do that? The product key seems to be tied to the motherboard.
edit: I just realized that this would have been better suited for the "simple questions" thread. My apologies on the mistake.
Last edit: 2012-06-26 03:39:19
carmon United States. June 26 2012 05:44. Posts 113
I don't think I'll need a gpu as I can reuse my gts 450, however I will need a monitor if someone can help me pick one out. Also can someone let me know if there are any major differences between the ASUS P8Z77-V LK and msi z77 g45 as they both come out to the same price combo wise.
Hey guys, I'm a bit confused about some things I've been reading about upgrading my computer. I just got a pretty fat cheque, and I'm getting another soon, so I'm probably going to build myself a new PC. The budget is around $2000 CAD, and I want to buy everything except keyboard, mouse, and speakers.
*Looking for good airflow and enough space for a dual GPU setup. Will this do? I also want this computer to be pretty quiet, so if you guys know any quality quiet fans that I can use instead of stock fans, that'd be appreciated. **I already have a 6950 2GB, but the clock and mem speeds don't exactly match this one. Will this affect a crossfire setup? I'm having a very hard time finding an identical card to mine; I think they're out of production. My current one is a reference card but I never played around with unlocking it to a 6970. ***Just looking for a reliable PSU that can handle 2 6950s, which each require 2 6-pins IIRC. ****The mobo is where most of my confusion lies. I don't know what sort of PCI-e configuration I should be looking for. This one claims to have 2 PCI-e 3.0 x16 - will that work for my crossfire needs? Will my cards be compatible with this board, being ATI, and will they be allowed to both run on x16? Do I need to concern myself with 2.0/3.0 and lane count? *****This is pretty much the best CPU that I can get for gaming without getting serious diminishing returns on price/performance, right?
Thanks in advance for your help, techies!
EDIT: one more question, regarding the monitor. Should I spring for some sort of 120Hz shenanigans? I'm mostly interested in something fairly large, and 1920x1200 is a bonus because it fits with WACOM tablet aspect ratios, so this was pretty much what I figured I'd settle on.
Pretty sure there aren't any 1920x1200 120Hz monitors. U2412M would be the best option for 1920x1200 unless you need a U2410.
Quiet and SLI don't go together? Cases full of mesh are also not quiet.
You can just underclock or overclock for CrossfireX, the cards you purchase don't have to be identical.
You don't need 750w for a CrossfireX 6950 configuration. 650w is enough. Corsair TXv2 is a good line of PSUs if you're a Corsair fan. Rosewill Capstone is better in performance per dollar.
You don't have to concern yourself about PCI-E. 3.0, 2.0, 2.1, etc are all backwards and forward compatible. G45 is x8 x8 which is basically what you want. If you want x16 x16 then you're going to have to spend $300+ on a motherboard. The 6950 and all current cards cannot utilize PCI-E 3.0 x16 or x8 fully.
Yep 3570k is highest you should go for gaming.
You're missing a heatsink.
Newegg also sucks. Enormous shipping, long shipping, and no pricematching. Buy from a Canadian retailer instead such as NCIX.
Thanks for the feedback. Do you have any cases and heatsinks you can recommend for my build? I will sacrifice quiet for cool, for the safety of my parts, but balance would be good. I've had bad experiences with rosewill, don't think I'll be buying from them again.
EDIT2: i should clarify about the sound issue; I don't mind if it's loud when I'm going balls to the wall xfire gaming, I just want it to be quiet when I'm watching movies or whatever. How do I achieve this? My current setup is just loud all the time ><
Whatever you do, don't get that 27.5" monitor, it is terrible.
Antec 1100 is a good case (in general - has a lot of good features, and is very good at cooling) but you don't necessarily need a huge case. Bigger case does not usually equal better cooling. More fans doesn't necessarily lead to better cooling either if they're not properly positioned - but most cases we'd recommend have reasonable mounting positions (not that there's much deviation from the standard).
Theoretically, if you were wanting a case that would reduce sound to virtual silence (especially when running fans at low RPM's), you could get a sound-dampened case like the Antec P280 or Fractal Design Define R3 (I'd say the Corsair 550D too but it seems overpriced in Canada). These cases also have additional fan mounts so I don't personally see much benefit in getting a case like the 1100 over them, though the 1100 probably does a much better job at cooling a high-heat configuration like something with SLI/CFX - especially two internal-exhaust cards, which seems to be what you'll have. I'd stick with the 1100 if you're happy with the looks. It'll probably be quieter under load then a dampened case due to the internal-exhaust cards.
Most cases can be made fairly quiet anyway by doing things like mounting all fans with rubber mounts, using a fan controller to turn their speed down, buying the right video cards and CPU cooling, etc.
For quiet and effective CPU cooling, I think you'll have to get the Noctua NH-C12P SE14 or NH-U12P SE2 if you want somewhat high CPU overclocking. I can't find the Thermalright HR-02 Macho in Canada... otherwise for a more moderate overclock the Xigmatek Gaia is a decent choice. However...
I wouldn't buy a CPU cooler to start with if it cuts into your monitor or SSD budget. It's not like you need the 3570K overclocked for any current gaming (except getting higher minimum frame rates in SC2, but even stock it'll run ultra easily...)
Sure, a CPU cooler is relatively easy to change after the assembly, at least with modern cases with backplate holes. But adding another SSD later is even easier, and buying a 3570K and using it with Intels stock cooler makes me cringe. The stupid plastic mounting mechanism, the noisy fan at idle, the inefficient cooling and wasping the air around in the case... A cheap heatsink for 20-30$ so much better. Don't even need a fan to beat Intels cooling solution.
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Wabbit United States. June 26 2012 07:47. Posts 1007
Unless you get a Hyper 212+ and then it's even harder to install and louder at load.
The Intel stock heatsink isn't as bad as everyone vilifies it to be (seriously, I understand the reasons it sucks but it works fine for the vast majority of people). The cooling is adequate as long as other conditions are somewhat normal, and it's definitely not loud at idle - or even at load for that matter (less than the 212+). If that was the case for you, it's your motherboard's fault for not being able to run its PWM fan at less than 100% speed.
It would be ideal to get the aftermarket heatsink from the start, but if someone is intending to get some higher end ~$50+ cooling, I see spending $20 now a waste of money if it holds them back from, say, getting a 128GB SSD instead of a 64GB. Actually I think it's a waste of money anyway.
[QUOTE][B]On July 29 2011 13:35 R1CH wrote:[/B] 575W PSU for $25? ಠ_ಠ[/QUOTE]
Given the power draw, I no longer feel my 550W Neo Power would be able to power my 5770, 5830, and a 7970 GE (Thank you Diablo 3 for the extremely guilt free disposable income) in tandem. This power supply was rated as 504 watts across 3 vrails holding 22A. Like 7 years ago. All reviews point to this unit being a 650W unit in disguise but because of its age I think I am going to retire it. Please feel free to refute this, in fact Im counting on it.
This computer's future consists of an ASRock Pro 3 SE holding an i5-2500k, a 5770 overclocked close to its breaking point, 5830 overclocked one or two steps further away than the 5770, and a 7970GE lightly overclocked since that will become my new main card.
To power it. I am considering getting a capstone 750, or a capstone 650 in the next day or so. (Sale on newegg I think). Anyone have anything enlightening to add to this or should I just pull the trigger?
I didnt get any advice one way or another so I am guessing no one really has anything to add here. Just in case though Im quoting it for discussion again because someone might have found an excellent deal i dont know about yet.
Womwomwom June 25 2012 14:42. Posts 5520
JingleHell United States. June 26 2012 00:31. Posts 11262
