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| MisterFred United States. June 26 2012 13:02. Posts 1816 | Profile # |
Well, I've probably read the same reviews you have. The general consensus seems to be that a regular 7970 overclocked gives roughly the same performance as a 7970 gigahertz edition, with the newer card having far less overclocking room. So it seems like the extra $50 isn't worth it. But I don't really know.
Prices don't seem to be doing anything wild, the cheapest original 7970s staying at $440-450 with some rebates out there.Last edit: 2012-06-26 13:06:15 |
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| Myrmidon United States. June 26 2012 13:10. Posts 8484 | Profile Blog # |
| Well, it turned out that GE was just the same chip revision, so nothing exciting there, and Capstone is a pretty obvious choice, so...not much to say. |
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| Medrea June 26 2012 13:16. Posts 9999 | Profile # |
Theres a couple other things as well.
Which capstone?
And 7970 vanilla comes with game keys through steam, think I can sell those?
Also my monitor is still 1680 * 1050. I bet your all facepalming so hard right now.Last edit: 2012-06-26 13:17:13 |
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| MisterFred United States. June 26 2012 13:37. Posts 1816 | Profile # |
| Yes. Yes, I am face-palming. Even though that's my resolution. |
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| Myrmidon United States. June 26 2012 13:38. Posts 8484 | Profile Blog # |
Either Capstone. 650W is enough, but for long-term 24/7 usage of 3 GPUs even I would suggest 750W I guess. It's like $8.50 more.
There are always grey-market means to sell game keys, right?
If the monitor is decent enough like a Samsung 2233RZ, I think that can be easily excused. Otherwise, you've brought it upon yourself. |
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| Medrea June 26 2012 14:32. Posts 9999 | Profile # |
Nope, 5 year old TN monitor.
750W makes sense in retrospect. Vanilla 7970 seems more appealing considering that the GE is right along the same power/performance line as an overclocked 7970.
I might get a Samsung 23A750D or something to go with it. The money from D3 is not stopping and, unlike my job money, is completely unaccounted for, not even by taxes!Last edit: 2012-06-26 14:34:47 |
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 Womwomwom June 26 2012 17:01. Posts 5514 | Profile Blog # |
| Is there really a reason to bother with the HD7970 with the GTX670 and GTX680 in existence? For raw gaming, I don't see very much reason to bother with AMD's high end cards to be quite honest. |
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| Medrea June 26 2012 17:07. Posts 9999 | Profile # |
nVidia cards suck donky balls at bitcoin mining so nVidia products are never on my radar. If they fix this maybe their products will be more appealing, but right now I don't see the point in nVidia at all.
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https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison
680 about 110 mh/s
7970 up to 800 mh/s (More commonly around 650)
So nVidia can't mine their way into a profit margin even (or a small one maybe), which is a big fail. I expected more from nVidia honestly especially since this last generation has way more CUDA cores.
Hell the 580 was better.Last edit: 2012-06-26 17:17:13 |
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| Rachnar France. June 26 2012 17:27. Posts 1421 | Profile # |
is the 590 good enough to do so?
or does it suck too? gotta go get mine in 15 mn ^^'Last edit: 2012-06-26 17:29:37 |
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| Medrea June 26 2012 17:33. Posts 9999 | Profile # |
You can get like 250 mh/s from it. Maybe more if its on a water block. Small margin. Consider my 5830 gets about 300 and consumes like not even a quarter of the power >.>
Would be ok in the winter. I don't pay to heat my apartment anymore. |
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| Rachnar France. June 26 2012 17:37. Posts 1421 | Profile # |
| Ya, well might try it someday.... but not for now anyhow, guess my 6870 would be better for that? |
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| Medrea June 26 2012 17:41. Posts 9999 | Profile # |
| You can get like 350 mh/s from a 6870. |
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| Rachnar France. June 26 2012 18:31. Posts 1421 | Profile # |
| What is the best programm to get rid of the all the old drivers on the hdd? |
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| Womwomwom June 26 2012 18:34. Posts 5514 | Profile Blog # |
| Pretty sure its Driver Sweeper. |
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| Rachnar France. June 26 2012 18:40. Posts 1421 | Profile # |
| Yep was that, thanks a bunch |
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| Shauni June 26 2012 19:25. Posts 3832 | Profile Blog # |
On June 26 2012 17:01 Womwomwom wrote:
Is there really a reason to bother with the HD7970 with the GTX670 and GTX680 in existence? For raw gaming, I don't see very much reason to bother with AMD's high end cards to be quite honest.
Don't see how the 670 680 beats 7970 in gaming. 7970 runs away pretty far clock by clock, is by far superior at high resolutions, which is the only case you'll need the performance, no? 680 mostly won reviewers hearts because of the marketing gimmick of auto overclocking (which you couldn't turn off to make reviews fair...). Also, if you buy that expensive of a card, you'll probably want it to last longer than a gtx560ti for instance, which it barely will. In a few years many people will have 4k displays and the likes, I can see the 670680 being an even larger bottleneck there than today.
Also, as far as I remember, Nvidia cards are far superior at folding. Don't see why mining would be more significant than folding, but preference I guess...Last edit: 2012-06-26 19:31:30 |
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| Medrea June 26 2012 19:48. Posts 9999 | Profile # |
Mining makes money. Folding is for charity mainly.
Also resolutions are going nowhere fast. As polygon counts are rising, and a new console generation has not emerged, and TV's are not improving very fast either, so 4,000+p monitors are not really coming. Maybe for tablets.
I bought a 5830 and a 5770 about a year ago, they've made well over double what they are worth. Not even gonna talk about the 5850's and 5870's.Last edit: 2012-06-26 19:57:58 |
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| Womwomwom June 26 2012 20:40. Posts 5514 | Profile Blog # |
On June 26 2012 19:25 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 17:01 Womwomwom wrote:
Is there really a reason to bother with the HD7970 with the GTX670 and GTX680 in existence? For raw gaming, I don't see very much reason to bother with AMD's high end cards to be quite honest.
Don't see how the 670 680 beats 7970 in gaming. 7970 runs away pretty far clock by clock, is by far superior at high resolutions, which is the only case you'll need the performance, no? 680 mostly won reviewers hearts because of the marketing gimmick of auto overclocking (which you couldn't turn off to make reviews fair...). Also, if you buy that expensive of a card, you'll probably want it to last longer than a gtx560ti for instance, which it barely will. In a few years many people will have 4k displays and the likes, I can see the 670680 being an even larger bottleneck there than today. Also, as far as I remember, Nvidia cards are far superior at folding. Don't see why mining would be more significant than folding, but preference I guess...
120hz gaming at 1920x1080 resolutions is the obvious reason you'd pick a GTX680 or go SLI. Or 3D gaming with active glasses. Also where are you getting the idea that we're going to be using 4K displays anytime soon? Well it could theoretically happen soon but it'll happen whenever Apple says so.
Also what's wrong with technology that makes our lives easier? What exactly is wrong with "auto-overclocking"? Its not a gimmick if it works. Its like complaining X game benchmark is unfair because its biased towards a specific brand's GPU. The end result is one cards runs a lot worse than another card in a specific game and there is nothing you can do about it. |
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| Medrea June 26 2012 21:02. Posts 9999 | Profile # |
nVidia had an edge in tesselation technology at one point so in order to exploit this edge they had Crytek make the jersey barriers in Crysis 2 way over tesselated in order to intentionally drop everyones frames per second down, but AMD card's moreso. They also added roiling tesselated water to areas with no need for water in order to do the same thing.
THAT is a problem and a plague in the PC industry.
Auto overclocking? Not so much. Also 3D gaming is retarded. And you dont need a 680 to get benefits from 120hz monitor anyway. |
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| Womwomwom June 26 2012 21:56. Posts 5514 | Profile Blog # |
| So what do you propose to do about it? The end result is the same: one GPU does worse than the other. |
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