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| skyR Canada. April 03 2011 15:50. Posts 11358 | Profile # |
@blightflesh
Get a 1333MHz CL9 kit, timings and frequency of the RAM has a very minimal impact on performance for Sandybridge. See here in regards to frequencies: http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377
Yes a 750w is more than capable of handling SLI GTX 560s and even SLI GTX 570s. There is probably better options than the TX750 though such as Antec Truepower New, Corsair TX v2, and XFX.
Without knowing the retailer / website you are purchasing from, it is hard to say if there is something better than the Zalman at that pricepoint.
What kind of features are you looking for in a motherboard? It'd probably be better to opt for a Gigabyte P67 UD3 or Asrock P67 Pro if you are just using this board as a placeholder.Last edit: 2011-04-03 15:51:02 |
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 Womwomwom April 03 2011 16:00. Posts 5557 | Profile Blog # |
Looking at the prices, he probably got those prices from pccasegear.
Why are you buying such expensive memory, you can literally buy 4GB of 1333mhz memory for half the price in Australia. You will not notice the benefits of superior timings and frequencies if you're just gaming.
Hard drive is overpriced too. Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB is $40 cheaper and has similar performance.
The Zalman cooler is so expensive that its sitting in the same market as a Thermalright or Noctua cooler. You might as well spend ~$10 more and get a beefy cooler that can run basically passive.
Throwing it out there but students (anyone with a student or alumni email account really) can get a $30 version of Windows 7 right now. Yes, its an upgrade version but Microsoft pretty much unofficially supports using upgrade versions as full retail versions. From memory all it takes is changing one registry value.
http://www.microsoft.com/student/en/us/software/windows/default.aspxLast edit: 2011-04-03 21:23:59 |
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| SecondSandwich United States. April 04 2011 00:44. Posts 305 | Profile # |
@skyR, womwomwom, myrmidon
Thanks for your input, it was very helpful. I offered him $575. He said it felt "a little low", but I think he will sell it for that much. Based on your input, it seems to be a decent deal.
One other question, I have heard some conflicting information on how well a GeForce 9600GT card can handle SC, anyone have experience or insight into what kind of fps/settings it can run? |
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| dandan23 Malaysia. April 04 2011 00:58. Posts 100 | Profile # |
| im running at 9600 gt on a laptop u can run at the lowest settings with 60 fps |
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| skyR Canada. April 04 2011 01:47. Posts 11358 | Profile # |
On April 04 2011 00:44 SecondSandwich wrote:
One other question, I have heard some conflicting information on how well a GeForce 9600GT card can handle SC, anyone have experience or insight into what kind of fps/settings it can run?
You'll be able to play comfortably on low / medium throughout the entire game. There will most likely be some slowdown in the late stages of the game playing on high / ultra.
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| Myrmidon United States. April 04 2011 01:50. Posts 8553 | Profile Blog # |
On April 04 2011 00:58 dandan23 wrote:
im running at 9600 gt on a laptop u can run at the lowest settings with 60 fps
A laptop 9600M GT has 32 stream processors at 500 MHz. That's similar to the desktop 9500 GT, which also has 32 stream processors. The desktop 9600 GT is significantly more powerful, with 64 stream processors, a higher core clock speed, and over double the memory throughput. It should be able to play on medium I think. |
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| blightflesh April 04 2011 07:49. Posts 10 | Profile # |
@ a176 Around sydney based retailers, macotech/d&d/pccg
@skyR Thanks alot for the article
Will look into some other PSU, antec seems like a solid choice
Coolers by the sounds of it from other sources i need to change, just thought there might be something better off in both departments others knew of
In terms of mobo just looking for the most stable one rather than any particular features\
@womwomwom
Thanks will def look into changing ram, about $100 for 8gigs should be able to pick up something
Everyone seems to like the spinpoint, ill give it second considerationsLast edit: 2011-04-04 08:19:45 |
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| blightflesh April 04 2011 09:12. Posts 10 | Profile # |
Revised, changed RAM/Cooler/PSU/Optical/Case
CPU – i5 2500k – $250
MOBO Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3R – $200
RAM – 8GB G.Skill 1600MHz F3 CL9-9-9-24 (2x4GB) - $120
GPU – Gigabyte GTX560Ti Super Overclock – $310
HDD – 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black SATA III 6 Gb/s 7200RPM 64MB Cache – $105
Cooler – Noctua NH-U9B SE2 – $75
Optical – Liteon 24x SATA DVD-RW – $55
Case – Coolermaster HAF RC-912M - $135
PSU – Antec TruePower 750 - $155
Sound card – Asus Xonar – $55
Total $1465 |
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| Djzapz Canada. April 04 2011 09:37. Posts 5871 | Profile Blog # |
@ blightflesh
This is a personal preference but I would grab 1333mhz ram to save some money. The performance increase from more expensive ram is truly negligible.
Also $55 for an DVD drive seems excessive given that we can get those for like $15 here. I hear Australians have quite the short stick as far as computer hardware goes but wow, $55 for a DVD drive is theft.Last edit: 2011-04-04 09:39:04 |
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| blightflesh April 04 2011 10:01. Posts 10 | Profile # |
The 1333mhz sticks are only $10 cheaper, for a few more potential fps its not too bad but yeh it does seem negligible to get high end RAM.
That same dvd drive can actually be brought for $30 those were more preliminary prices as im using one site to determine parts then looking at the other couple shops i am going to buy from to get the best price
On a whole could prob drop around $50-$80 if i shopped around, though i am trying to keep the parts from fewer places, less shipping/people to deal with. |
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| Myrmidon United States. April 04 2011 11:15. Posts 8553 | Profile Blog # |
Maybe I'm being dumb, but doesn't the Gigabyte P67A-UD3R not support SLI? I think you're looking for a UD4, Asus P67 Pro, AsRock Extreme4, MSI GD5x, or some such for SLI. I'd assume a 750W PSU is for SLI GTX 560, though you could run that fine on a good 650W unit.
Personally, I'd try to trim the optical drive ($55 lol), case, PSU, RAM, and motherboard costs at least. Then you'd have room to upgrade something, like adding in an SSD or bumping up from a GTX 560 to a GTX 570 or something like that.
Really high-end CPU cooling is overkill on a i5-2500k really, unless maybe you'd like to spend $50 extra on a cooler (over something like a CM Hyper 212+) to hunt for the last 100 or 200 MHz your chip can do. |
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| Legatus Lanius April 04 2011 11:18. Posts 2135 | Profile Blog # |
yeah its x16/x4
dvd drives were $20 when i bought my parts in february, now they have shot up to $35
the case is cheaper at msy/pc case gear (119)
psu is cheaper at msy (139)
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| Myrmidon United States. April 04 2011 11:36. Posts 8553 | Profile Blog # |
| So you're not going to run SLI, yet you're getting a 750W PSU? Or do I not understand? |
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| skyR Canada. April 04 2011 12:15. Posts 11358 | Profile # |
On April 04 2011 11:36 Myrmidon wrote:
So you're not going to run SLI, yet you're getting a 750W PSU? Or do I not understand?
I believe in an earlier post, he said he was going to eventually put the UD3R in another rig and buy a LGA 2011 (or whatever socket Sandybridge-E ends up being on) motherboard for SLI.
Here's the post:
On April 03 2011 15:29 blightflesh wrote:
Will 750w psu, this one in particular handle dual GTX 560s as that is what i will be aiming to get, along with an i7 on the upcoming 2011 socket, which we can only estimate general levels of power.
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| Soft`Soap Canada. April 04 2011 13:14. Posts 860 | Profile # |
Hey, I'm hoping I can get some advice on this thread.
My budget is ~$800.00 usd
My resolution is unknown, I'm not a big fan of high quality graphics though, if that means anything =\
I'm using it for SC2 and Diablo3, and their respected expansions. I will also be using it for e-mail and any school-related programs such as microsoft office.
My upgrade cycle is hopefully around ~4 years. Keep in mind though, that I will be playing SC2 in lowest graphics and I have no problem playing Diablo3 in lowest graphics. I just want the game to run smoothly with no issues over b.net
If I got a computer that I could play on medium-high settings for now, but low settings in the future I'll be happy with that.
I plan on building it sometime in the summer Julyish, August
I do not plan on overclocking it
I do need an OS
I don't think i want to add GPU or Crossfire, I don't really want high performance, I just don't want low performance.
I live in Calgary, Alberta and I don't know where I'm buying my parts from.
I hope you guys can help me out with that information, I'll be thankful for any replies
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| Char711 United States. April 04 2011 14:03. Posts 862 | Profile Blog # |
Quick question guys:
How good of a video card do I need for max settings now and being able to do relatively high settings for the next few years? In his incredibly helpful post to me, skyR recommended a great card. However, it's only 768 MB. I researched it a bit and saw that it could do most average games at max, but it seems like I need more juice than that from what I saw.
Also, importance of RAM? I know 4 GB is pretty damn standard (hell, it's in this almost 3-year-old laptop that I'm using), but I also see that I can bump up to 8 GB for maybe $40-$50 and wanted to know if that was worth it and a good way to keep the machine viable for longer. Am I also right when I say that, when I look at your recommendations, the brand is least important on the RAM? I see a lot of lesser known names.
Thanks for putting up with all of our questions! I'm a pretty knowledgeable guy, but I'm just not up-to-date on my parts because of how I not only have a laptop but an Apple laptop. |
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| skyR Canada. April 04 2011 14:04. Posts 11358 | Profile # |
@MiXyass
NCIX offers assembly and a 1 year warranty for $50 ( http://ncix.com/products/?sku=7842 ).
Any monitor that fits your needs / wants is fine.
If you do it yourself, you get an RMA number from the manufacturer and send the part back to them. They'll fix it / or just give you a new one and send it back to you. The processor, motherboard, and graphics card all usually come with 3 year warranty, RAM comes with lifetime, and power supply comes with 2-7 years (the CX430 is 2 years).
You would have to change the graphics card and to do this, you would most likely need to change the power supply as well. The configuration I gave you is far better than the two you listed from Bestbuy and Futureshop. |
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