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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly. | RaLakedaimon United States. September 22 2011 12:11. Posts 1523 | Profile # |
| Ok so upgrade just the GPU and then have a go with it and if not satisfied just get the new CPU, sounds pretty simple. :D Your also right about sup bar..on almost everything on the rig since I bought it from ibuypower instead of having the guts to do it myself. Would you recommend installing CPU and GPU myself over doing it at a shop? Would I need a ton of tools or anything since its liquid cooled I just didn't want to risk some mishap that would ruin everything. (btw thanks in advance for all this information, you have no idea how much it helps) |
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| skyR Canada. September 22 2011 12:17. Posts 11171 | Profile # |
| This depends whether everything is liquid cooled or it's just the CPU itself with an enclosed liquid heatsink. If everything is liquid cooled than I'd suggest taking it to a shop since you've never worked inside a computer before. If it's just the CPU that's being liquid cooled than switching out the graphics card is really simple. Only a philip head screwdriver is required and maybe a can of compressed air to clear the dust. |
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| pandazzz United States. September 22 2011 12:19. Posts 2 | Profile # | |
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| RaLakedaimon United States. September 22 2011 12:29. Posts 1523 | Profile # |
It's just the CPU and its like a tube thing connected to a fan at the back that connects to this housing over the CPU. Thanks again man I had a list that was around 1200$ since I thought I'd need a motherboard,cpu,gpu, new liquid cooling kit to fit and then a better power supply. I knew my list was shit and I needed less, glad I came here, love how you guys in this thread are always so reliable with information.  |
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| skyR Canada. September 22 2011 12:40. Posts 11171 | Profile # |
It looks good. If you want to deal with mail in rebates than the 650 variant is fine.
On September 22 2011 12:29 RaLakedaimon wrote:+ Show Spoiler +It's just the CPU and its like a tube thing connected to a fan at the back that connects to this housing over the CPU. Thanks again man I had a list that was around 1200$ since I thought I'd need a motherboard,cpu,gpu, new liquid cooling kit to fit and then a better power supply. I knew my list was shit and I needed less, glad I came here, love how you guys in this thread are always so reliable with information.
Even if you wanted an entirely new platform, you can re-use a lot of old components. Your processor is on socket LGA1156 which has identical mounting holes as the newer processors on LGA1155 so you don't need a new liquid cooling kit.
It would be best to just wait until Battlefield 3 actually comes out and go from there because if you just want low settings, I think a Radeon HD5770 is more than enough for comfortable play. |
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| jacosajh September 22 2011 13:17. Posts 2522 | Profile Blog # |
Earthwatts 650 is great at that price. I bought mine at the top price of ~$100.
And it's Crossfire/SLI ready without the need of an adapter for a 2x 6-pin requirement graphics card.
It just doesn't come with a power cord, so keep that in mind if you don't have one. You can get one for like ~$2 though. |
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| Myrmidon United States. September 22 2011 14:07. Posts 8484 | Profile Blog # |
On September 22 2011 13:17 jacosajh wrote:
Earthwatts 650 is great at that price. I bought mine at the top price of ~$100.
And it's Crossfire/SLI ready without the need of an adapter for a 2x 6-pin requirement graphics card.
It just doesn't come with a power cord, so keep that in mind if you don't have one. You can get one for like ~$2 though.
Wait what, it has 4x 6-pin PCIe connectors? |
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| Shikyo Finland. September 22 2011 14:17. Posts 20124 | Profile Blog # |
On September 22 2011 14:07 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 13:17 jacosajh wrote:
Earthwatts 650 is great at that price. I bought mine at the top price of ~$100.
And it's Crossfire/SLI ready without the need of an adapter for a 2x 6-pin requirement graphics card.
It just doesn't come with a power cord, so keep that in mind if you don't have one. You can get one for like ~$2 though.
Wait what, it has 4x 6-pin PCIe connectors?
it doesnt ! |
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| Peanutbuttah Canada. September 22 2011 14:45. Posts 68 | Profile Blog # |
I'm currently looking to purchase a budget gaming computer with the following specs.
Here's what I have so far, any suggestions on improving this setup while still keeping the total price of it less than 850$?
("Get a NVIDIA Graphics Card, AMD sucks!" "Less QQ, Moar Pew Pew!" Etc.)
I'm not overclocking or anything, so I probably don't need a ridiculous 700W+ Power Supply
All prices are in Canadian Dollars.
CPU
Intel Core i3 2100 Dual Core Hyperthreading Processor LGA1155 3.1GHZ Sandy Bridge 3MB
$133
GPU
Powercolor Radeon HD 6770 850MHZ 1GB 4.8GHZ GDDR5 DVI HDMI VGA PCI-E Video Card
$94
Hard Drive
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 7200.12 1TB SATA 32MB Cache 3.5IN Internal Hard Drive
$53
Motherboard
ASUS P8H61-M LE/CSM H61 DDR3 LGA1155 mATX PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 PCI VGA DVI B3
$71
RAM
Crucial CT2KIT25664BA1339 4GB 2X2GB PC3-10600 DDR3-1333 240PIN DIMM Dual Channel Memory Kit
$30
Case
Coolermaster Haf 912 Black Mid Tower ATX Case 4X5.25 1X3.5 6X3.5INT
$55
Power Supply
Corsair Builder Series CMPSU-500CXV2 500W ATX Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan
$70
Monitor
Acer 20IN Widescreen LCD Monitor 1600X900 5ms 50000:1
$90
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT
$110
Keyboard
Razer Lycosa Gaming Ultrapolling Keyboard
$83
Total: $789
Total without OS, Monitor and Keyboard: $506Last edit: 2011-09-22 14:50:10 |
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| jacosajh September 22 2011 14:48. Posts 2522 | Profile Blog # |
On September 22 2011 14:07 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 13:17 jacosajh wrote:
Earthwatts 650 is great at that price. I bought mine at the top price of ~$100.
And it's Crossfire/SLI ready without the need of an adapter for a 2x 6-pin requirement graphics card.
It just doesn't come with a power cord, so keep that in mind if you don't have one. You can get one for like ~$2 though.
Wait what, it has 4x 6-pin PCIe connectors?
Oops... I mixed up my words.
It's Crossfire/SLI ready and doesn't need an adapter for 2x 6-pin requirement graphics card.
It has 2x 6-pin so you can run 1 card requiring 2x 6-pin without adapters or Crossfire/SLI with adapters.
I knew you knew that lol. Just clarifying for everyone else.
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| jacosajh September 22 2011 14:53. Posts 2522 | Profile Blog # |
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On September 22 2011 14:45 Peanutbuttah wrote:
I'm currently looking to purchase a budget gaming computer with the following specs.
Here's what I have so far, any suggestions on improving this setup while still keeping the total price of it less than 850$?
("Get a NVIDIA Graphics Card, AMD sucks!" "Less QQ, Moar Pew Pew!" Etc.)
I'm not overclocking or anything, so I probably don't need a ridiculous 700W+ Power Supply
All prices are in Canadian Dollars.
CPU
Intel Core i3 2100 Dual Core Hyperthreading Processor LGA1155 3.1GHZ Sandy Bridge 3MB
$133
GPU
Sapphire Radeon HD 6670 800MHZ 1GB 4.0GHZ GDDR5 PCI-E DVI-I DisplayPort HDMI Video Card
$94
Hard Drive
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 7200.12 1TB SATA 32MB Cache 3.5IN Internal Hard Drive
$53
Motherboard
ASUS P8H61-M LE/CSM H61 DDR3 LGA1155 mATX PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 PCI VGA DVI B3
$71
RAM
Crucial CT2KIT25664BA1339 4GB 2X2GB PC3-10600 DDR3-1333 240PIN DIMM Dual Channel Memory Kit
$30
Case
Coolermaster Haf 912 Black Mid Tower ATX Case 4X5.25 1X3.5 6X3.5INT
$55
Power Supply
Corsair Builder Series CMPSU-500CXV2 500W ATX Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan
$70
Monitor
Acer 20IN Widescreen LCD Monitor 1600X900 5ms 50000:1
$90
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT
$110
Keyboard
Razer Lycosa Gaming Ultrapolling Keyboard
$83
Total: $789
Total without OS, Monitor and Keyboard: $506
Can you stretch your budget a little bit for a better graphics card? Maybe a GTS 450 or HD 5770 for Ultra on SC2 at that monitor's resolution (1600x900).
You can get a Corsair CX430 V2 instead to re-allocate some $$$ if you absolutely can't go higher in cost. The big difference between the Corsair CX430 and CX500 is the CX500 has 2x 6-pin. For cards requiring 2x 6-pin, you'll need an adapter (which usually comes with the card). You don't even need the 6-pin for the HD 6670; the GTS 450/HD5770 require 1x 6-pin, so if you get a CX430 V2 and GTS 450/HD5770, it's a pretty good change.
If you play other games besides SC2, it might worth it to get an HD 5850 or GTX 460 if your budget allows.
There is no Windows 7 @ student pricing for Canada? If so, look into it as that bring your cost significantly.
EDIT: Wtf am I seeing. I thought at first I say you put HD 6670, not HD 6770. In any case, the HD 6770 only uses 1x 6-pin.Last edit: 2011-09-22 15:11:17 |
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| Myrmidon United States. September 22 2011 15:08. Posts 8484 | Profile Blog # |
I dunno, sometimes they release stealth upgrades or downgrades, so you can never be sure. If there's a change in connectors usually there's a new model and product page though, like with the XFX Core 450W V2. Just making sure nothing was overlooked.
@Peanutbuttah
Some of those prices don't look that good, like the CPU, power supply, and RAM. Canadian retailers like NCIX allow price matching, and they often have better deals than that themselves, so I'd expect you could save there some.
Except the graphics card looks like a great deal, unless you're counting the mail in rebate. |
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| Peanutbuttah Canada. September 22 2011 15:14. Posts 68 | Profile Blog # |
| nevermind XD Last edit: 2011-09-22 15:16:43 |
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| Shikyo Finland. September 22 2011 15:40. Posts 20124 | Profile Blog # |
On September 22 2011 14:45 Peanutbuttah wrote:
I'm currently looking to purchase a budget gaming computer with the following specs.
Here's what I have so far, any suggestions on improving this setup while still keeping the total price of it less than 850$?
("Get a NVIDIA Graphics Card, AMD sucks!" "Less QQ, Moar Pew Pew!" Etc.)
I'm not overclocking or anything, so I probably don't need a ridiculous 700W+ Power Supply
All prices are in Canadian Dollars.
CPU
Intel Core i3 2100 Dual Core Hyperthreading Processor LGA1155 3.1GHZ Sandy Bridge 3MB
$133
GPU
Powercolor Radeon HD 6770 850MHZ 1GB 4.8GHZ GDDR5 DVI HDMI VGA PCI-E Video Card
$94
Hard Drive
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 7200.12 1TB SATA 32MB Cache 3.5IN Internal Hard Drive
$53
Motherboard
ASUS P8H61-M LE/CSM H61 DDR3 LGA1155 mATX PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 PCI VGA DVI B3
$71
RAM
Crucial CT2KIT25664BA1339 4GB 2X2GB PC3-10600 DDR3-1333 240PIN DIMM Dual Channel Memory Kit
$30
Case
Coolermaster Haf 912 Black Mid Tower ATX Case 4X5.25 1X3.5 6X3.5INT
$55
Power Supply
Corsair Builder Series CMPSU-500CXV2 500W ATX Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan
$70
Monitor
Acer 20IN Widescreen LCD Monitor 1600X900 5ms 50000:1
$90
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT
$110
Keyboard
Razer Lycosa Gaming Ultrapolling Keyboard
$83
Total: $789
Total without OS, Monitor and Keyboard: $506
That keyboard is shit, replace it with a standard 8 dollar keyboard, both are just as good. With the saved 75 dollars and the room in your budget you can even go for like, an i5 2300 and 6870. With those you'll be much better off and will max out on your screen. Also, I'd get a 1080p monitor and 30$ seems to be too much for ram, you can probably get something similiar for 20ish. Replace HDD with Samsung Spinpoint F3, should cost about the same but its faster. |
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| Snaxy Norway. September 22 2011 17:23. Posts 8 | Profile # | |
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| jambajoe September 22 2011 17:58. Posts 24 | Profile # |
hi guys,
I need a new graphics card, but a really cheap one.
so I was thinking about this one: SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 5450 Lite retail
I have absolutely no clue about hardware, so I was wondering if sc2 (at lowest settings) is gonna run smoothly with this card?
I have a Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU @ 2.8 Ghz and 4 GB ram if you need this information.
sorry about the link being in german, but I really couldnt find the exact same card at an english site, I hope you get which card is meant.Last edit: 2011-09-22 18:38:02 |
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| modipeluri Finland. September 22 2011 18:38. Posts 17 | Profile # |
What is your budget?
900€ for the computer, 200€ the screen
What is your resolution?
1920x1080px
What are you using it for?
Playing SC II and D3. I work as a web designer so running photoshop smooth is important.
What is your upgrade cycle?
I'd say around 4 years, or when the computer can't handle modern software anymore
When do you plan on building it?
This week
Do you plan on overclocking?
Yes, I haven't done it before but I'd like to give it a try.
Do you need an Operating System?
No need for OS.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No, unless I happen to get lucky and win a new card from the upcoming LAN event in my hometown
Where are you buying your parts from?
I'm based in Finland but I'll be ordering from http://www.mindfactory.de since it's quite a bit cheaper than finnish e-shops.
I've been stalking this thread for a long time and here's what I've come up with. It's mostly what you guys have been recommending to other people but since were talking about such large amounts of money here I wanted to be absolute certain before purchasing.
CPU:
Intel Core i5 2500K 4x 3.30GHz So.1155 BOX € 179,45*
HD
1000GB Samsung EcoGreen F3 HD105SI 32MB 3.5" (8.9cm) SATA 3Gb/s € 49,56*
GPU
1024MB EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB Aktiv PCIe 2.0 x16 (Retail) € 198,11*
SSD
128GB Crucial m4 SSD CT128M4SSD2 2.5" (6.4cm) SATA 6Gb/s MLC synchron € 157,35*
RAM
8GB TeamGroup Elite DDR3-1333 DIMM CL9 Dual Kit € 32,90*
PSU
550W XFX PRO550W Core Edition ATX € 58,36*
MOBO
Asus P8P67 P67 Sockel 1155 ATX Rev3 € 104,95*
DVD
Samsung DVDRW SATA 22x SH-222AB bare / black € 15,21*
Case
ATX Antec Gamer Case Three Hundred Midi Tower o.NT Schwarz € 47,90*
Cooling
Xigmatek Gaia AMD und Intel 754, 939, 940, AM2, AM2+, AM3, 775, 1156, 1366 € 26,12*
Screen
http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/46573/dbdnt/Asus-24-VE247H-Full-HD-LED-naytto
What do you guys think about this? I use a lot of photoshop. Would a GTX 560 with 2gb of memory benefit me greatly over the 1gb version? Also, The GTX 560 cards vary from 160€ to 260€, how do I know which one I should get? I'd be interested looking into overclocking so I'm guessing I should take a non-OC'd version?
Thank you!
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| MaieVShadowsonG Greece. September 22 2011 19:41. Posts 32 | Profile # |
hello and thanks for all ur help guys. i hope i am not a pain in ur butt. my techical specifications of my pc and i would like some help on buying a new monitor/tv. my budget is maximum 500 euro and i buy from hardwareversand.de. the monitor/tv could be around 22 26 inches or something. now i have a 22 inches. hd or 1080p or full hd or something (cant distinguish the difference) preferably with 2 hdmi ports cause i want to connect my ps3 too.
Core i5-2500
AsRock H61M/U3S3
Asus HD 6870 DirectCU
Corsair 2 x 4GB DDR3 RAM
Super Flower Amazon 450W
thanks a lot :DLast edit: 2011-09-22 19:42:16 |
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| mrloiter Australia. September 22 2011 20:59. Posts 18 | Profile # |
Ok, so i have a little bit of cashola saved up. And i wanted to buy a fancy new computer. I was hoping to be able to browse facebook very well. And perhaps play world or warcraft, brood war, and runescape. Perhaps even, at the same time., but that's not a must.
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Western Digital VelociRaptor 600GB WD6000HLHX $289
Intel Core i7 990X $1079
Seagate Barracuda XT 3TB 7200RPM 64MB ST33000651AS $269
OCZ RevoDrive 3 X2 PCI-Express SSD 480GB $1949
Enermax MaxRevo 1500W $399
Swiftech H20-220 Edge Liquid Cooling Kit $299
Corsair Hydro Series H100 CPU Cooler $169
Samsung MD230X3 Multi-Display 3x23inch cPVA Panels $1795
Thermaltake Level 10 Case $799
Saitek Cyborg R.A.T. 9 Gaming Mouse $179
ASUS P6T7 WS SuperComputer $639
Corsair Vengeance CML16GX3M4A1600C9B 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 $156
ASUS GeForce GTX 590 3GB x2 $939 x2
Hauppauge HD PVR Video Encoder $235
Razer Dragon Age 2 Black Widow Ultimate Mechanical Keyboard $165
Logitech Z906 THX 5.1 Speaker System $449
Total $10748
I would have spent a little bit more but the shipping was $460. All feedback will be helpful. |
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 Womwomwom September 22 2011 21:08. Posts 5514 | Profile Blog # |
Are you deadly serious about spending $10,000 on a computer?
On September 22 2011 19:41 MaieVShadowsonG wrote:
hello and thanks for all ur help guys. i hope i am not a pain in ur butt. my techical specifications of my pc and i would like some help on buying a new monitor/tv. my budget is maximum 500 euro and i buy from hardwareversand.de. the monitor/tv could be around 22 26 inches or something. now i have a 22 inches. hd or 1080p or full hd or something (cant distinguish the difference) preferably with 2 hdmi ports cause i want to connect my ps3 too.
The monitor actually doesn't need 2x HDMI ports. If the DVI port has HCDP through DVI, the PS3 can connect to the monitor with a DVI <-> HDMI adapter and audio can be connected to the speakers with composite or optical out.
You could try your old monitor and see how it goes. |
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