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mrloiter Australia. September 22 2011 21:10. Posts 18

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Yes I am.

Womwomwom September 22 2011 21:14. Posts 5514

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I'll just say: review your previous questions and try and see why your current build is so stupid. There is no way your build isn't a troll. You posted this:

On July 18 2011 00:37 mrloiter wrote:
Hi, i was just looking to get some feedback on this build. I would be willing to spend more on better components and / or overclocking, but i am not convinced that it is worth it.

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All up it is $1079, like i said if there is anything that is absolutely worth upgrading, let me know. But at this point i am satisfied with what i have. I should also note that i have 2 gb of spare ram so i will have 6gb in total.

All help appreciated immensely.

I'll also add that i am Australian, buying everything off Pccg. Which is why the prices are slightly higher than usual.

Then somehow decided to post a $10,000 build.

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mrloiter Australia. September 22 2011 21:15. Posts 18

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...

I just wanted some advice

Rachnar France. September 22 2011 21:17. Posts 1419

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rofl, spend 10 times less and you will get equal performance (and even better sometimes) on like 99% of games

the i5-2*** is better for gaming then the i7-990x even if it costs like 5 times more

and if you have so much money to waste buy me a copy of it and give it to me <3

more seriously if you have a basicly unlimited budget, and play the most demanding games on high res, never will you need more then like a gtx580 or hd6970 (even these 2 are like overkill for 99.9% of games)

get an i5-2500k, a basic air cooler for it, p67 mobo, one of the gpu's i listed above, or hd6950/gtx560ti if you need such a good one

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mrloiter Australia. September 22 2011 21:24. Posts 18

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I guess i'll cut down a bit. Get a smaller ssd?

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Rachnar France. September 22 2011 21:37. Posts 1419

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kk definitly a troll, before i gave him the chance that he might just have been totally ignorant :/

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skyR Canada. September 22 2011 21:53. Posts 11164

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Here's why your build is stupid.

You're getting 3x 23" instead of 3x 30". Why you would do this when you have an unlimited budget is beyond comprehension.

You're getting a core i7 990x when the core i7 3960x is scheduled for a November release. Again, why you wouldn't wait for a much better processor is beyond comprehension.

You're getting HDDs when you can get SLC SSDs, shrug...

A razer leybpard and logitech sound system? Don't make me laugh.

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JingleHell United States. September 22 2011 21:56. Posts 11262

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If I had an unlimited budget, I wouldn't be buying a Lycosa keyboard with it. I'd get the Optimus Maximus. http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/

Anyways, troll elsewhere.

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MaieVShadowsonG Greece. September 22 2011 22:08. Posts 32

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yes but i would like to buy a tv/monitor. my old screen is shit. thats why i wanna spend 500 euro for both monitor tv

Womwomwom September 22 2011 22:34. Posts 5514

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If you don't mind spending the whole 500 Euros and don't need an inbuilt TV tuner, you *could* look at Hazro - I know you max specified size is 26" but 27" isn't that much different haha. The Hazro HZ27WC is within your budget, taking VAT into account, while the Hazro HZ27WD is outside your budget. The difference between the Hazro HZ27WC and Hazro HZ27WD is that the WC only has a single DVI port while the WD has HDMI, DVI, composite, and a few other connections.

Both have the same 2560x1440 resolution IPS panel and since its practically the same panel as the Apple Cinema Displays, they're probably absolutely gorgeous to look at in person.

There are other IPS panels out there, like the Dell Ultrasharps, however I strongly advice looking at one in person before buying as the anti-glare can be disorientating for some people - the only real options I recommend are the U2311H or U2312HM. If you just want a decent economical 23"/24" monitor, any cheap monitor with HCDP (for the PS3) will do...something like the ASUS VS238H is good enough.

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Wabbit United States. September 22 2011 23:23. Posts 1003

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On September 22 2011 11:41 Shikyo wrote:

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Do you HAVE to buy from CanadaComputers? You can save some money on Shikyo's build:
- get a G530 instead for $58 from NCIX, no difference in performance for non-gaming and non-professional work apps
- save $48 by not getting a discrete GPU - it's not necessary for your typical "family" PC. The integrated graphics on the CPU is more than sufficient
- edit: this ASRock mobo is also cheaper

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[QUOTE][B]On July 29 2011 13:35 R1CH wrote:[/B] 575W PSU for $25? ಠ_ಠ[/QUOTE]

Westerhound Finland. September 22 2011 23:43. Posts 58

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On September 22 2011 02:05 Shikyo wrote:

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Here's a nice 835€ prebuilt computer that I'm going to try to beat in cost-efficiency using jimms and then hardwareversand:
http://www.silentrig.com/product/1028/high-power-budjet

Here's a similiar computer in parts from Jimms:
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So only 50 euros cheaper, not too impressive.

And from hardwareversand:

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That's more like it...

Note that I was too lazy to link them as I'm kind of in a hurry right now but you should be able to use the search function etc. Those are just examples but you know where I'd order from.

Basing on my very limited knowledge that mobo doesnt seem to be very supportive of me upgrading the graphics card at least, this true? Would it be a lot more expensive to get a mobo that would support newer cards as well with the PCI-E 3.0 and still be stable with OCing the CPU?

E: Also, anyone with experience with hardwareversand, is it just the 30€ total for delivery to Finland as stated here

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JingleHell United States. September 22 2011 23:53. Posts 11262

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On September 22 2011 23:43 Westerhound wrote:

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On September 22 2011 02:05 Shikyo wrote:

On September 22 2011 01:17 Westerhound wrote:
New computer needed.

What is your budget?
About 1000 euros. It's pretty flexible, but Id rather not go that much over it

What is your resolution?
Need a new monitor as well (hooray for using an iMac for 3 years, QQ), which will preferably be 1920x1080. If you've got good recommendations, please tell :I

What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming, with some photoshop mixed in. That isnt very important though, so Id rather not pay that much more for increased photoshopability.

What is your upgrade cycle?
About 2 years.

When do you plan on building it?
Next couple of weeks

Do you plan on overclocking?
Im not quite sure how all this overclocking business works. Id like to do it, but how much more will I have to pay in mobo, cooling and all that jazz if I decide to up the processor by a GHz or so?

Do you need an Operating System?
Ye, Win7

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Nope

Where are you buying your parts from?
Only Finnish store that Ive found that can compete in prices is Jimms (searchfield is in the top left if you want to use that), and I can get my parts from there without paying shipping cause its fairly close. I am however open to ordering online as well, if it really gets cheaper that way.

Other stuff
I want to add a second monitor once I get a bit more monies, but this shouldnt affect the build that much as far as I know? Im a bit of a questionmark when it comes to the OCing as well, unfortunately

PCIE 3.0 is completely useless for 99% of users, PCIE 2.x bus is fast enough for any 2 GPU setup, and most 3GPU without slowing down. By quad GPU it's a bit slow.

In other words, if you're on a budget below ~$6-8k, don't worry about it.

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MisterFred United States. September 23 2011 00:31. Posts 1815

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Meh, pointless re-troll. Deleted it. And looking above, SkyR beat me to it. LOL.

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ThatGuy89 United Kingdom. September 23 2011 02:10. Posts 1966

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edit: Changed my mind, sorry

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Kinetik_Inferno September 23 2011 02:33. Posts 1419

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What does unlocking shaders mean?

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Kinetik_Inferno September 23 2011 03:34. Posts 1419

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On September 22 2011 08:27 JingleHell wrote:
Xigmatek Gaia, CM Hyper 212+, Corsair A70, anything by Noctua, most Zalman's...

Basically anything that isn't a closed loop liquid cooler like an H60.

160mm tower coolers are the typical air coolers for normal cases. Generally take 120mm fans.

Say, why the hell do we call them 120mm instead of 12cm? Or is that just us silly stubborn Americans who refuse to accept a rational system of measurement?

On the amazon page of the CM Hyper 212+ (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002G1YPH0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&m=A2EUTVCJXLAJ4K) it says at the top 775/1156/1336, so wouldn't it not be compatible with LGA 1155?

EDIT: It says in the details that it IS compatible with 1155. What? I'm confused.

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Wabbit United States. September 23 2011 03:38. Posts 1003

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On September 23 2011 03:34 Kinetik_Inferno wrote:
...it says at the top 775/1156/1336, so wouldn't it not be compatible with LGA 1155?

EDIT: It says in the details that it IS compatible with 1155. What? I'm confused.

1156 and 1155 use the same mounting holes so if a heatsink is compatible with 1156 it should work with 1155.

EDIT: and the Hyper 212+ is probably the most popular 1155 heatsink so... no doubts about that one.

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[QUOTE][B]On July 29 2011 13:35 R1CH wrote:[/B] 575W PSU for $25? ಠ_ಠ[/QUOTE]

Kinetik_Inferno September 23 2011 04:15. Posts 1419

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What's a good quality, reliable, mid-range motherboard that:

is LGA 1155 compatible
Has at least one PCI-E port
Has at least three RAM slots
I will not be overclocking anything but the Graphics card, and that only slightly
Preferably SATA3
needs to be TRIM compatible

and is also roomy. I have a freaking huge graphics card in mind and I want to make sure that that and the HSF fit. I know that my case is roomy, so I think I'll be fine there.

EDIT: Added more specifics.

Will this motherboard be roomy enough? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130582

I just want to make sure all the parts fit.

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JingleHell United States. September 23 2011 04:17. Posts 11262

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Why would you want 3 RAM slots on anything that isn't 1366? Even then, it better be SFF or have 6...

Oh, and I'm pretty sure somewhere near 100% of retail motherboards for modern sockets have at least one PCIe...

Basically, you haven't narrowed it down. Your needs for OCing and connectivity are much more useful.

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