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Personal attacks in this thread will draw a temp ban. | Ghanburighan Estonia. April 30 2012 04:53. Posts 3589 | Profile # |
On April 30 2012 04:52 Aocowns wrote: Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 04:50 Facultyadjutant wrote: On April 30 2012 04:41 Aocowns wrote: On April 30 2012 04:39 Facultyadjutant wrote: IDRA for the love of god, make more spines, why don't you deny top mid? Why don't you take bottom mid?
WHY - Is your basic timings using roaches so terrible
WHY - DON'T YOU GO AT 200/200
WHY - Don't you get 3/3
WHY - Don't you stick to the cliffs so archons can't hit you
WHY - Don't you neural
WHY - Don't you spend your minerals on spines and lings
WHY - Don't you make nydus to take out bottom right
why, why,why,why,why,why,why,why do you have to let ZvP hold you back so insanely hard? Can you just stop setting up yourself for a great game and then throw it all away in a completely terrible engagement
Idra's roach timings are actually pretty good as far as I know. It's the decision making with them that loses him games. Neural against Mothership is close to impossible against a player with good control, I feel. Huk's control is top notch, so I don't see him fucking up so bad taht Idra got in range with infestors.
Screw that, his gas timings are consistently horrible, upgrade wise aswell ZvP And he was in neural range, but did not pay attention to his infestors and got them all vortexed. Also iDra engages like a blind three legged drunken cow
Why would you say his gas timings are bad? He DID neural several times, and GUESS WHAT, HUK DOESNT SUCK SO HE SNIPED THEM OR VORTEXED BEFORE INFESTORS GOT IN RANGE. Frustration is taking over
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| LuckoftheIrish United States. April 30 2012 04:53. Posts 1802 | Profile # |
Yep.
Idra is tilted so hard he's tilting Wheat and the entire fanclub.Last edit: 2012-04-30 04:54:06 |
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| Aocowns Norway. April 30 2012 04:53. Posts 3494 | Profile Blog # |
| I refuse to believe Idra is taking this seriously by now Last edit: 2012-04-30 04:53:40 |
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| Jinsho United Kingdom. April 30 2012 04:53. Posts 3028 | Profile # |
| Looks like he doesn't want to play anymore. Too bad, could have been some great games. |
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| Smapz Norway. April 30 2012 04:53. Posts 402 | Profile # |
on the two largest fucking maps there is ...  |
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| ravenKRaz United States. April 30 2012 04:54. Posts 580 | Profile # |
On April 30 2012 04:50 TheSubtleArt wrote: Show nested quote +On April 29 2012 23:32 ThePlayer33 wrote: On April 29 2012 23:17 Facultyadjutant wrote: On April 29 2012 23:09 ThePlayer33 wrote: On April 29 2012 22:46 TheSubtleArt wrote: On April 29 2012 14:00 schmutttt wrote: On April 29 2012 13:35 TheSubtleArt wrote: shattered T is actually Z>>P
Please don't post things that are blatantly wrong. The lack of an accessible 3rd base for Zerg and an easily defendable one for Protoss is a huge issue.
On April 29 2012 15:21 ThePlayer33 wrote: On April 29 2012 13:35 TheSubtleArt wrote: shattered T is actually Z>>P
shut up buddy. that is the dumbest thing ive ever heard and youre a hater,we can recognise you from just less than 10 pages back. at least come up with something better. you couldve even said IdrA made a mistake, but you didn't. you said Z>P in shattered. now go
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/maps/446Sup...? Statistically its one of the most Z>P maps out there lol
LOL because that stat dates all the way back including (edit): early 2011?
You can easily change it so its more recent. 2012 it has been 58% win rate for zerg
i haven't seen a single game in an event this year played of shattered. it's removed of t and p can both turtle to 3/4 bases easily compare to new maps. zerg cant take 3rd in zvp or you can die to any 2 base all in. terran can sit tanks between gold and main for as long as they want. do you not veto this map on ladder as z? i know most zergs do because its t or p favoured in these matchups.
Lol don't think I can have a reasonable discussion with you if you're gonna be this stubborn. I say Shattered T is Z>P, you call me stupid. I point to statistics that say it is, you say they're too outdated. Someone points out that even this years statistics are skewed for Zerg, and you still won't budge so w/e. You also assume I'm a hater for w/e reason, even though I like seeing Idra do well and have probably watched his stream and studied his replays way more than you.
you're really still arguing about that? just drop it..
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| Facultyadjutant Sweden. April 30 2012 04:54. Posts 1258 | Profile Blog # |
On April 30 2012 04:52 Aocowns wrote: Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 04:50 Facultyadjutant wrote: On April 30 2012 04:41 Aocowns wrote: On April 30 2012 04:39 Facultyadjutant wrote: IDRA for the love of god, make more spines, why don't you deny top mid? Why don't you take bottom mid?
WHY - Is your basic timings using roaches so terrible
WHY - DON'T YOU GO AT 200/200
WHY - Don't you get 3/3
WHY - Don't you stick to the cliffs so archons can't hit you
WHY - Don't you neural
WHY - Don't you spend your minerals on spines and lings
WHY - Don't you make nydus to take out bottom right
why, why,why,why,why,why,why,why do you have to let ZvP hold you back so insanely hard? Can you just stop setting up yourself for a great game and then throw it all away in a completely terrible engagement
Idra's roach timings are actually pretty good as far as I know. It's the decision making with them that loses him games. Neural against Mothership is close to impossible against a player with good control, I feel. Huk's control is top notch, so I don't see him fucking up so bad taht Idra got in range with infestors.
Screw that, his gas timings are consistently horrible, upgrade wise aswell ZvP And he was in neural range, but did not pay attention to his infestors and got them all vortexed. Also iDra engages like a blind three legged drunken cow
Why would you say his gas timings are bad? He DID neural several times, and GUESS WHAT, HUK DOESNT SUCK SO HE SNIPED THEM OR VORTEXED BEFORE INFESTORS GOT IN RANGE. Frustration is taking over
Yeah because idra is just terrible at fungaling away things. HuK in the shakuras game, just walked a naked mothership and vortexed 8 infestors. Cleanly. Why idra was away from his spines, why he had so poor broodlords placement is beyond anyone of us.
And his gas timnigs in ZvP is overall terrible when going roach, he takes it too early and always have shitty upgrades over the course of the game. |
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| JoeCool Germany. April 30 2012 04:54. Posts 497 | Profile # |
| Well this is actually getting ridiculous.... |
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| Rulker United States. April 30 2012 04:54. Posts 1402 | Profile Blog # |
fucken idra
he has this mentality that its The game thats !@#$ing him, but in reality its him and his mind. Why... |
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| LuckoftheIrish United States. April 30 2012 04:54. Posts 1802 | Profile # |
| If he wins this somehow, I don't know what I will do. But it will be bad. |
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| Rulker United States. April 30 2012 04:55. Posts 1402 | Profile Blog # |
| he should start streaming right this second rofl |
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| DwmC_Foefen Belgium. April 30 2012 04:56. Posts 2139 | Profile Blog # |
On April 30 2012 04:54 LuckoftheIrish wrote: If he wins this somehow, I don't know what I will do. But it will be bad.
It's been a long time since he has won anything important so I wouldn't worry. It seems to me he's just tired of the game? I dunno, he plays so uninspiring. |
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| Rulker United States. April 30 2012 04:56. Posts 1402 | Profile Blog # |
On April 30 2012 04:54 LuckoftheIrish wrote: If he wins this somehow, I don't know what I will do. But it will be bad.
he wont, he cant touch huk in pvz.. |
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| Aocowns Norway. April 30 2012 04:56. Posts 3494 | Profile Blog # |
On April 30 2012 04:54 Facultyadjutant wrote: Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 04:52 Aocowns wrote: On April 30 2012 04:50 Facultyadjutant wrote: On April 30 2012 04:41 Aocowns wrote: On April 30 2012 04:39 Facultyadjutant wrote: IDRA for the love of god, make more spines, why don't you deny top mid? Why don't you take bottom mid?
WHY - Is your basic timings using roaches so terrible
WHY - DON'T YOU GO AT 200/200
WHY - Don't you get 3/3
WHY - Don't you stick to the cliffs so archons can't hit you
WHY - Don't you neural
WHY - Don't you spend your minerals on spines and lings
WHY - Don't you make nydus to take out bottom right
why, why,why,why,why,why,why,why do you have to let ZvP hold you back so insanely hard? Can you just stop setting up yourself for a great game and then throw it all away in a completely terrible engagement
Idra's roach timings are actually pretty good as far as I know. It's the decision making with them that loses him games. Neural against Mothership is close to impossible against a player with good control, I feel. Huk's control is top notch, so I don't see him fucking up so bad taht Idra got in range with infestors.
Screw that, his gas timings are consistently horrible, upgrade wise aswell ZvP And he was in neural range, but did not pay attention to his infestors and got them all vortexed. Also iDra engages like a blind three legged drunken cow
Why would you say his gas timings are bad? He DID neural several times, and GUESS WHAT, HUK DOESNT SUCK SO HE SNIPED THEM OR VORTEXED BEFORE INFESTORS GOT IN RANGE. Frustration is taking over
Yeah because idra is just terrible at fungaling away things. HuK in the shakuras game, just walked a naked mothership and vortexed 8 infestors. Cleanly. Why idra was away from his spines, why he had so poor broodlords placement is beyond anyone of us. And his gas timnigs in ZvP is overall terrible when going roach, he takes it too early and always have shitty upgrades over the course of the game.
Oh, do you maybe think he vortexed the infestors becase vortex has 2 range more than neural? We've always known that Idra's army management is less than stellar, but neural against mothership is insanely hard to pull off no matter who plays it.
Point me to a game where his gas timings when going roach is bad. Really, I haven't seen a game he failed at gas timing when going roach |
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| PattyJ United States. April 30 2012 04:57. Posts 146 | Profile # |
On April 30 2012 04:56 DwmC_Foefen wrote: Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 04:54 LuckoftheIrish wrote: If he wins this somehow, I don't know what I will do. But it will be bad.
It's been a long time since he has won anything important so I wouldn't worry. It seems to me he's just tired of the game? I dunno, he plays so uninspiring.
why care about results when you can make a living off just being a personality |
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| Rulker United States. April 30 2012 04:57. Posts 1402 | Profile Blog # |
On April 30 2012 04:57 PattyJ wrote: Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 04:56 DwmC_Foefen wrote: On April 30 2012 04:54 LuckoftheIrish wrote: If he wins this somehow, I don't know what I will do. But it will be bad.
It's been a long time since he has won anything important so I wouldn't worry. It seems to me he's just tired of the game? I dunno, he plays so uninspiring.
why care about results when you can make a living off just being a personality
you wont make a living being a personality longterm unless you start investing in a more positive image, not just playing the game poorly |
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| DwmC_Foefen Belgium. April 30 2012 04:58. Posts 2139 | Profile Blog # |
On April 30 2012 04:57 PattyJ wrote: Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 04:56 DwmC_Foefen wrote: On April 30 2012 04:54 LuckoftheIrish wrote: If he wins this somehow, I don't know what I will do. But it will be bad.
It's been a long time since he has won anything important so I wouldn't worry. It seems to me he's just tired of the game? I dunno, he plays so uninspiring.
why care about results when you can make a living off just being a personality
I don't think his popularity will last forever... I think the amount of people that don't care anymore is much bigger than his fans.
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| DwmC_Foefen Belgium. April 30 2012 05:00. Posts 2139 | Profile Blog # |
| "This is gonna be ouch" - Djwheat |
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| aifranchise United States. April 30 2012 05:01. Posts 83 | Profile # | |
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| Rulker United States. April 30 2012 05:01. Posts 1402 | Profile Blog # |
| idra your so bad at pvz why dont you listen to people and just learn to play standard to perfection |
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