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| Le French France. April 29 2012 11:03. Posts 782 | Profile # |
On April 29 2012 10:56 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 29 2012 10:41 MooMooMugi wrote:
Haven't watched the movie but does Black Widow actually have any powers ?
scarlett johansson in leather
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| deth2munkies United States. April 29 2012 12:12. Posts 1812 | Profile Blog # |
How are you people seeing this a week before it comes out  |
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| kwizach April 29 2012 12:26. Posts 1212 | Profile # |
On April 29 2012 12:12 deth2munkies wrote:How are you people seeing this a week before it comes out
It's already out in many countries, for once the US is the one getting it late ,-)
On April 29 2012 05:09 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 29 2012 03:10 kwizach wrote:+ Show Spoiler +He's good at fighting. That's not tactics or strategy. Being the leader of a company is a general leadership position, combat leadership is very different in nature. Capt. America is trained in combat leadership, not Stark. Also, again, Stark is shown as being individualistic in nature, something which isn't necessary a problem to lead a company but which definitely is one when it comes to leading a small team. Finally, life experience is unrelated to combat leadership experience, of which once again Capt. America has plenty more than Stark.
Stark demonstrated combat leadership with War Machine when they fought together in Iron Man 2. Also, it doesn't matter that Captain America is trained in combat leadership - what matters is whether Stark respects Captain America to lead the team when they meet. You may be right that over time, Stark would respect Captain America's ability as a combat leader, but they had not worked together for too long up to the point Stark started taking commands from Captain America on the street in New York.
What confuses this issue further is that in the scene to fix the propeller so that the aircraft carrier could stay afloat in the air, it was entirely Stark that lead that scene, with Captain America as the sidekick.
+ Show Spoiler +No, he really did not demonstrate combat leadership - in fact, if you remember correctly, they argued about who would get the high ground until the robots arrived :-D He didn't really lead anything, especially not a team.
There is no need to wait - Capt. America immediately steps in to assign roles to everyone, and the others proceed to the spots they were assigned. Iron Man recognizes someone else than him stepped forward and apparently agrees enough with the "division of labor" to do what Capt. America said. There really is absolutely nothing confusing/wrong with how this panned out (and regarding the carrier scene, it was not combat but a repair). Last edit: 2012-04-29 12:26:56 |
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| Tremendous Denmark. April 29 2012 14:19. Posts 134 | Profile # |
Just watched it.
I have to admit. I thought it would be terrible. All the hype over this movie made me think it would be a huge letdown. But it wasnt. IMO it was much better than the movies featurering the individual heroes. And it was funny. The hulk seems to be comedic gold
A solid and very entertaining movie.
+ Show Spoiler +What Hulk did to Loki made me giggle. Last edit: 2012-04-29 14:19:58 |
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| itkovian United States. April 29 2012 14:38. Posts 1593 | Profile Blog # |
I'm not gonna lie, I've anticipated this movie to be terrible. I've had a falling out with super hero movies recently, especially after watching that last x-men movie which was fucking terrible. I had resigned myself to the fact that the only super-hero movie I would enjoy from this point on would be Batman. When I saw the amount of characters that would appear in this one and I just assumed it would be super shallow and cheesy just like many of the rest.
But, apparently rotten tomatoes has determined it as 97% positive by critics. So I guess I'll withhold my judgment and fork over the money to go see this in the end. |
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| Lyter United Kingdom. April 29 2012 14:41. Posts 1927 | Profile Blog # |
On April 29 2012 14:38 itkovian wrote:
I'm not gonna lie, I've anticipated this movie to be terrible. I've had a falling out with super hero movies recently, especially after watching that last x-men movie which was fucking terrible. I had resigned myself to the fact that the only super-hero movie I would enjoy from this point on would be Batman. When I saw the amount of characters that would appear in this one and I just assumed it would be super shallow and cheesy just like many of the rest.
But, apparently rotten tomatoes has determined it as 97% positive by critics. So I guess I'll withhold my judgment and fork over the money to go see this in the end.
Are you talking about xmen: first class? Because that was actually good |
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| MooMooMugi United States. April 29 2012 14:59. Posts 4490 | Profile Blog # |
| Xmen 3 with Dark Phoenix was terrible but I agree, Last Stand was actually refreshing. Magneto coming up is also another movie that I'm dying to see Last edit: 2012-04-29 15:00:48 |
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| itkovian United States. April 29 2012 15:53. Posts 1593 | Profile Blog # |
On April 29 2012 14:41 Lyter wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 29 2012 14:38 itkovian wrote:
I'm not gonna lie, I've anticipated this movie to be terrible. I've had a falling out with super hero movies recently, especially after watching that last x-men movie which was fucking terrible. I had resigned myself to the fact that the only super-hero movie I would enjoy from this point on would be Batman. When I saw the amount of characters that would appear in this one and I just assumed it would be super shallow and cheesy just like many of the rest.
But, apparently rotten tomatoes has determined it as 97% positive by critics. So I guess I'll withhold my judgment and fork over the money to go see this in the end.
Are you talking about xmen: first class? Because that was actually good
Yeah, I genuinely disliked it. Maybe I was in the wrong mood or something. There were a few memorable moments, the best being when they meet Logan in the bar.
But most of it I thought was pretty bad. The script felt cheesy, the characters felt mostly one-dimensional, I wasn't even very impressed by the battles if I can remember right.
I might have gone in expecting too much. I thought it would be kind of a dark film more about the origins of magneto and proff x, but instead it became this silly romp with a bunch of teenagers derping around.
"Mutant and proud" has become a running joke between me and my brother to represent overt corniness.
I think the main problem was I never bought into the film, and thus I took a very cynical eye upon it immediately. I remember them standing on top of some massive satellite dish, apparently training, and this kid is being reluctant to try this method of jumping off into thin air and using his echo-ability to levitate himself in the air. And then magneto or someone just pushes him off. Just pushes him off a thousand foot high ledge, in hopes of "inspiring" him to achieve this feat. And I couldn't help but think wtf. That is such a retarded risk. Why would you take that kind of risk when you've got all the time in the world to try at smaller levels. Then they all laugh it off afterwards when, luckily, the kid's powers manage to work in that way for him. What if his lungs just caught up in fear, and splat. Then later(or before, I dont remember), Proff-x is training Havok to be accurate with his lazer powers or w/e. Havok turns out to be wildly inaccurate, and can't hit anything dependently. So of course proff-x holds a target right next to his head or something, and miraculously Havok is able to hit it without blowing the shit out of Proff-x's face.
I'm starting to rant now, but yeah, I didn't like it that much =/Last edit: 2012-04-29 15:54:33 |
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 [V] United States. April 29 2012 15:58. Posts 905 | Profile # |
GTFO, Spoilers.
User was warned for this postLast edit: 2012-04-30 07:39:05 |
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| Scruff Australia. April 29 2012 17:33. Posts 456 | Profile # |
For once a movie comes out early in Australia.
Caught the movie and it really stood up to my expectation. Action + Humour, got to love it.
+ Show Spoiler +Ironman and Hulk are so awesomely funny |
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| crc Australia. April 29 2012 19:22. Posts 94 | Profile # |
| My favourite movie of all time was "Dark Knight". Before watching "The Avengers". Now it's my second favourite. |
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| MCDayC United Kingdom. April 29 2012 19:35. Posts 11817 | Profile # |
It's basically just a standard Superhero film, just standard action and humour, but ye gods its probably the most perfect Superhero film ever made. Just 'effing amazing.
And rofl at the argument over Captain America's qualifications as a leader a few pages earlier in this thread, that was hilarious to read.Last edit: 2012-04-29 19:59:42 |
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| TheBanana Norway. April 29 2012 20:34. Posts 2145 | Profile # |
I went in with low expectations, so I thought the movie was extra awesome.
I watched it with 3 other guys, only one guy didn't love it. But that's just because he was being a negative nancy complaining about CGI in a freaking superhero movie.
Heated argument in the car drive home ensued.
+ Show Spoiler +Favorite moment, Hulk smashing Thor while being on the same team. |
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| Mota_V Australia. April 29 2012 21:41. Posts 23 | Profile # |
Enjoyed the film, but it wasn't as mind blowing as I wanted it to be. The trailer was better at that.
Scar Jo's butt in that leather mah god.
Loved the Hulk, gonna go watch a few of them.
Was confused about how the Hulk wasn't able to control himself on the carrier, but was then later was able to fighting the invader aliens. Read that as long as he initiates it with the right amount of anger, he's able to control it, like a grey area. Whereas on the carrier it was provoked against his will, by the whole situation. |
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| SeaSwift Scotland. April 29 2012 21:48. Posts 4485 | Profile Blog # |
| Pretty fuckin' good movie. Definitely worth watching, and was far above my poor expectations for it. |
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| Railxp Hong Kong. April 29 2012 22:32. Posts 1309 | Profile Blog # |
| perfect balance of action movie and comic moments. Probably one of the best popcorn flicks to date. |
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| Chriscras Korea (South). April 29 2012 22:38. Posts 2738 | Profile Blog # |
| LOL I though it came out this weekend good thing I didn't tell anyone at work I watched it LOL it was awesome break from the studies :D Last edit: 2012-04-29 22:39:16 |
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| Chriscras Korea (South). April 29 2012 22:51. Posts 2738 | Profile Blog # |
On April 29 2012 12:26 kwizach wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 29 2012 05:09 xelnaga_empire wrote:
On April 29 2012 03:10 kwizach wrote:+ Show Spoiler +He's good at fighting. That's not tactics or strategy. Being the leader of a company is a general leadership position, combat leadership is very different in nature. Capt. America is trained in combat leadership, not Stark. Also, again, Stark is shown as being individualistic in nature, something which isn't necessary a problem to lead a company but which definitely is one when it comes to leading a small team. Finally, life experience is unrelated to combat leadership experience, of which once again Capt. America has plenty more than Stark.
Stark demonstrated combat leadership with War Machine when they fought together in Iron Man 2. Also, it doesn't matter that Captain America is trained in combat leadership - what matters is whether Stark respects Captain America to lead the team when they meet. You may be right that over time, Stark would respect Captain America's ability as a combat leader, but they had not worked together for too long up to the point Stark started taking commands from Captain America on the street in New York.
What confuses this issue further is that in the scene to fix the propeller so that the aircraft carrier could stay afloat in the air, it was entirely Stark that lead that scene, with Captain America as the sidekick.
No, he really did not demonstrate combat leadership - in fact, if you remember correctly, they argued about who would get the high ground until the robots arrived :-D He didn't really lead anything, especially not a team.
There is no need to wait - Capt. America immediately steps in to assign roles to everyone, and the others proceed to the spots they were assigned. Iron Man recognizes someone else than him stepped forward and apparently agrees enough with the "division of labor" to do what Capt. America said. There really is absolutely nothing confusing/wrong with how this panned out (and regarding the carrier scene, it was not combat but a repair).
+ Show Spoiler +Listen just because Captain America asserted a leadership role in one scene where everyone was already in crisis mode does not mean he is officially leader of the team. If Stark had disagreed with the battle plan I am sure he would have been the first to step up and acknowledge it. For now everyone has gone their separate sequels ways, so we won't really even know the composition of the next avenger's team for a few more years. Awesome job all around though, especially by the team at Paramount who are handing all of the Marvel movies over to Disney. Hopefully Mickey Mouse won't fuck shit up. Josh Whedon HWAITING! Last edit: 2012-04-29 23:03:12 |
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| kwizach April 29 2012 23:31. Posts 1212 | Profile # |
On April 29 2012 22:51 Chriscras wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 29 2012 12:26 kwizach wrote:
On April 29 2012 05:09 xelnaga_empire wrote:
On April 29 2012 03:10 kwizach wrote:+ Show Spoiler +He's good at fighting. That's not tactics or strategy. Being the leader of a company is a general leadership position, combat leadership is very different in nature. Capt. America is trained in combat leadership, not Stark. Also, again, Stark is shown as being individualistic in nature, something which isn't necessary a problem to lead a company but which definitely is one when it comes to leading a small team. Finally, life experience is unrelated to combat leadership experience, of which once again Capt. America has plenty more than Stark.
Stark demonstrated combat leadership with War Machine when they fought together in Iron Man 2. Also, it doesn't matter that Captain America is trained in combat leadership - what matters is whether Stark respects Captain America to lead the team when they meet. You may be right that over time, Stark would respect Captain America's ability as a combat leader, but they had not worked together for too long up to the point Stark started taking commands from Captain America on the street in New York.
What confuses this issue further is that in the scene to fix the propeller so that the aircraft carrier could stay afloat in the air, it was entirely Stark that lead that scene, with Captain America as the sidekick.
No, he really did not demonstrate combat leadership - in fact, if you remember correctly, they argued about who would get the high ground until the robots arrived :-D He didn't really lead anything, especially not a team.
There is no need to wait - Capt. America immediately steps in to assign roles to everyone, and the others proceed to the spots they were assigned. Iron Man recognizes someone else than him stepped forward and apparently agrees enough with the "division of labor" to do what Capt. America said. There really is absolutely nothing confusing/wrong with how this panned out (and regarding the carrier scene, it was not combat but a repair).
Listen just because Captain America asserted a leadership role in one scene where everyone was already in crisis mode does not mean he is officially leader of the team. If Stark had disagreed with the battle plan I am sure he would have been the first to step up and acknowledge it. For now everyone has gone their separate sequels ways, so we won't really even know the composition of the next avenger's team for a few more years. Awesome job all around though, especially by the team at Paramount who are handing all of the Marvel movies over to Disney. Hopefully Mickey Mouse won't fuck shit up. Josh Whedon HWAITING!
+ Show Spoiler +I never said anything about Capt. America being the new leader of the team. I was only talking about his leadership in the combat scene. Last edit: 2012-04-30 00:08:07 |
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| Chriscras Korea (South). April 29 2012 23:37. Posts 2738 | Profile Blog # |
On April 29 2012 05:21 hai2u wrote:
in the comics both characters have been leader of the Avengers but Captain America is the first person people usually think of when they think of Avengers so it's natural that he is the leader in the 1st movie.
^This |
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