 UniversalSnip August 05 2010 18:36. Posts 4820 | Profile Blog # |
This is a common thing in science fiction where you are 'teleported' by a machine that kills you, then reconstructs an exact copy of your body and mind at another point. The question is
Would you use it? (the copy really believes it is you and acts like and is indistinguishable from you. assume it's failsafe. the question is emotional rather than practical)
EDIT: This is not from the prestige.
On August 06 2010 11:37 UniversalSnip wrote:The concept of teleporting, or becoming immortal by replicating yourself and killing the original is an old science fiction convention. The philosophical problem underlying it goes all the way back to greek philosophy, where it took the form of the ship of theseus. I find this version more interesting because the emotional resonance of evading death (or not) makes it hard to take the lazy way out by dismissing the whole issue as a matter of semantics.
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| Narwhal United Kingdom. August 05 2010 18:37. Posts 314 | Profile # | |
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| disco Netherlands. August 05 2010 18:37. Posts 1649 | Profile Blog # |
| I'd rather just bend time and space to teleport, so much safer. |
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| Southlight United States. August 05 2010 18:39. Posts 9999 | Profile Blog # |
| I would do it. Also the concept is like that of Ghost in the Shell. |
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| HouseSparrow Denmark. August 05 2010 18:44. Posts 4 | Profile # |
Reminds me of an episode on Fringe and Watchmen the movie.
Who says that this machine actually kills you. What if it simply disassembles you and reassembles you again, with a chance of not being done properly.
If it is indeed failsafe and have been done countless of times, I wouldnt mind doing it.
I would rather do it disco style :-) |
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| SuperJongMan Jamaica. August 05 2010 18:45. Posts 11428 | Profile Blog # |
| So like what's the difference between me... and me? Would I like to teleport.. ya I would. |
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| deisel United States. August 05 2010 18:49. Posts 75 | Profile # |
| common philosophical question...and if you believe that only the mind makes up who you really are then you would do it. but if you believe that both your body and mind makes you who you really are, then you wouldn't do it. |
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| BrogMaN United States. August 05 2010 18:49. Posts 108 | Profile # |
| No, absolutely would not even consider it. I've thought about this concept a lot after reading Michael Crichton's(RIP) Timeline. The whole idea terrifies me. Sure it may be an exact copy of me down to the molecule, but it won't be ME. I'll be dead. Gone. Maybe if I was a religious type i would be willing but since i'm pretty atheist and don't really think anything happens after i die there's no way i would willingly kill my current body just to travel somewhere. Unless THIS body would die if I didn't teleport, like if the Earth was about to explode. Then yeah, sure, I would want to keep my ideas alive and have the chance for my genes to be carried on, but that would be the only acceptable reason to teleport for me. |
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| Coagulation United States. August 05 2010 18:52. Posts 7581 | Profile Blog # |
so basically if you did this you would die.. regardless of the "cloned" you that comes out the other side.. you would cease to exist
i dont see much incentive to do this. |
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| Uriel_SVK Slovakia. August 05 2010 18:54. Posts 370 | Profile # |
First I would do it without destruction, and I would ask me if I am still me, or I am not me. If I am still me than i would kill me so there is only one me.
But if there would be two me... this leads me to an interesting question... if i would have sex with my other me, would it be gay sex or masturbation? |
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 braammbolius August 05 2010 18:54. Posts 179 | Profile # |
On August 05 2010 18:36 UniversalSnip wrote:
a machine that kills you,
the question is emotional rather than practical)
uh......what.
If it kills you, you die.
seems kinda like a practical question to me lol.
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| endy China. August 05 2010 18:55. Posts 6232 | Profile Blog # |
The machine might make copies of yourself in parallel universes  |
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| nevz Sweden. August 05 2010 18:56. Posts 72 | Profile # |
On August 05 2010 18:54 braammbolius wrote:
Show nested quote +On August 05 2010 18:36 UniversalSnip wrote:
a machine that kills you,
the question is emotional rather than practical)
uh......what. If it kills you, you die. seems kinda like a practical question to me lol.
It kills you... but you're still alive after it kills you.
I really don't see why you wouldn't do this, teleportation sounds pretty handy. |
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| redtooth August 05 2010 19:01. Posts 4684 | Profile Blog # |
| so it's basically what happened in The Prestige? eh i'd be sorta reluctant to do so. wouldn't use the device just for convenience. the original me is dying after all. |
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| youngminii Australia. August 05 2010 19:02. Posts 7353 | Profile Blog # |
Isn't this more like The Prestige? I mean Tesla makes a machine that literally clones you in a different location and then you have to kill the clone/the clone has to kill you, just for a magic trick (lol).
But ya I wouldn't.
I do have an epic idea for this teleportation machinethough. It's a bit crude so spoiler tags.
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So like, for this idea you need a girl. You get this girl and you pretty much fuck her except what you do is you put it in, then teleport her out/yourself out, then teleport her in/yourself in and let it repeat. I wonder what that would feel like.
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| EpiK Korea (South). August 05 2010 19:04. Posts 4975 | Profile Blog # |
what difference does it make that the copy thinks/acts exactly like you? You will die and not be aware of the copies.
And yeah, I thought of The Prestige as well lol, except he didn't really do it for the sake of teleporting. Last edit: 2010-08-05 19:07:48 |
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 FakeSteve[TPR] Valhalla. August 05 2010 19:11. Posts 17083 | Profile Blog # |
...okay, are you asking whether i would let myself die just so a copy of me whose conciousness i don't share can go somewhere else real quick?
fuck no, i'll take the bus.
if my conciousness is transferred through and i just feel like i teleported, then fuck yeah! atoms is just atoms. |
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| H New Zealand. August 05 2010 19:14. Posts 5933 | Profile Blog # |
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| IaniAniaN Canada. August 05 2010 19:16. Posts 555 | Profile # |
| The problem is one of you gets to remember what happened before, and keep living. The other just dies the second the teleportaiton begins. So is it worth dying in that instant so that a copy of you can go on living to experience the rest of your life? Nah. |
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| meegrean Thailand. August 05 2010 19:22. Posts 6049 | Profile # |
| i will never use a teleporter ever. good thing i probably won't see one in this lifetime. maybe future generations that can use this technology will be less religious. |
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