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 Talin   Montenegro. April 27 2012 14:01. Posts 8259
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On April 27 2012 13:57 zefreak wrote:

Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 13:39 Shaddar wrote:

On April 27 2012 12:58 zefreak wrote:

On April 27 2012 12:39 Opeasy wrote:
I must say you guys were way too harsh towards naniwa. Bullying is not cool, even if you are trying to be funny. Six (or five, thorzain said very little during this) of the biggest personalities in sc2 talking shit about one guy is not cool. I hope you will apologize ASAP!


What did they say? After hearing what MC had to say about him, as well as HuK, im really curious if I missed something.


What did MC and Huk have to say about him?



Well MC said he was BM and disrespectful in the MLG Arena interview, also laughed when Naniwa's ro8 result came up and said that Naniwa is always lucky because his opponents play horrible against him, and Huk agreed.


Bolded the ironic part.
 
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 Jakkerr   Netherlands. April 27 2012 15:48. Posts 2428
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On April 27 2012 13:57 zefreak wrote:

Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 13:39 Shaddar wrote:

On April 27 2012 12:58 zefreak wrote:

On April 27 2012 12:39 Opeasy wrote:
I must say you guys were way too harsh towards naniwa. Bullying is not cool, even if you are trying to be funny. Six (or five, thorzain said very little during this) of the biggest personalities in sc2 talking shit about one guy is not cool. I hope you will apologize ASAP!


What did they say? After hearing what MC had to say about him, as well as HuK, im really curious if I missed something.


What did MC and Huk have to say about him?



Well MC said he was BM and disrespectful in the MLG Arena interview, also laughed when Naniwa's ro8 result came up and said that Naniwa is always lucky because his opponents play horrible against him, and Huk agreed.


Huk saying something like that is hilarious.
The only times he got far in tournaments were when he got insanely easy opponents, which he gets quite a lot o.0
 
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 TheAmazombie   United States. April 27 2012 15:52. Posts 3658
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Oh, the VOD is up now. Woot!
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 xtfftc   United Kingdom. April 27 2012 15:53. Posts 2337
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On April 27 2012 08:23 Carbonthief wrote:
We need a new show called the state of the state of the game. It's about the current state of sotg.

State of the Game was never about the state of the game though, so State of the State of the Game shouldn't be about the current state of SotG.
 
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 itmeJP   United States. April 27 2012 16:11. Posts 1095
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VOD is live and working now

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  mambar   United States. April 27 2012 16:14. Posts 841Profile # 

On April 27 2012 15:48 Jakkerr wrote:

Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 13:57 zefreak wrote:

On April 27 2012 13:39 Shaddar wrote:

On April 27 2012 12:58 zefreak wrote:

On April 27 2012 12:39 Opeasy wrote:
I must say you guys were way too harsh towards naniwa. Bullying is not cool, even if you are trying to be funny. Six (or five, thorzain said very little during this) of the biggest personalities in sc2 talking shit about one guy is not cool. I hope you will apologize ASAP!


What did they say? After hearing what MC had to say about him, as well as HuK, im really curious if I missed something.


What did MC and Huk have to say about him?


Well MC said he was BM and disrespectful in the MLG Arena interview, also laughed when Naniwa's ro8 result came up and said that Naniwa is always lucky because his opponents play horrible against him, and Huk agreed.



Huk saying something like that is hilarious.
The only times he got far in tournaments were when he got insanely easy opponents, which he gets quite a lot o.0

yeah the ONLY times were when his opponents were INSANELY easy.

these types of comments are so fucking absurd
 
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 Jakkerr   Netherlands. April 27 2012 16:21. Posts 2428
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On April 27 2012 16:14 mambar wrote:

Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 15:48 Jakkerr wrote:

On April 27 2012 13:57 zefreak wrote:

On April 27 2012 13:39 Shaddar wrote:

On April 27 2012 12:58 zefreak wrote:

On April 27 2012 12:39 Opeasy wrote:
I must say you guys were way too harsh towards naniwa. Bullying is not cool, even if you are trying to be funny. Six (or five, thorzain said very little during this) of the biggest personalities in sc2 talking shit about one guy is not cool. I hope you will apologize ASAP!


What did they say? After hearing what MC had to say about him, as well as HuK, im really curious if I missed something.


What did MC and Huk have to say about him?


Well MC said he was BM and disrespectful in the MLG Arena interview, also laughed when Naniwa's ro8 result came up and said that Naniwa is always lucky because his opponents play horrible against him, and Huk agreed.


Huk saying something like that is hilarious.
The only times he got far in tournaments were when he got insanely easy opponents, which he gets quite a lot o.0


yeah the ONLY times were when his opponents were INSANELY easy.

these types of comments are so fucking absurd


go ahead and link me a tournament in which Huk got far where he didn't have a much easier run then the other guys.
Last edit: 2012-04-27 16:21:47
 
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  xBenderx   Canada. April 27 2012 16:28. Posts 18Profile # 

On April 27 2012 16:21 Jakkerr wrote:

Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 16:14 mambar wrote:

On April 27 2012 15:48 Jakkerr wrote:

On April 27 2012 13:57 zefreak wrote:

On April 27 2012 13:39 Shaddar wrote:

On April 27 2012 12:58 zefreak wrote:

On April 27 2012 12:39 Opeasy wrote:
I must say you guys were way too harsh towards naniwa. Bullying is not cool, even if you are trying to be funny. Six (or five, thorzain said very little during this) of the biggest personalities in sc2 talking shit about one guy is not cool. I hope you will apologize ASAP!


What did they say? After hearing what MC had to say about him, as well as HuK, im really curious if I missed something.


What did MC and Huk have to say about him?


Well MC said he was BM and disrespectful in the MLG Arena interview, also laughed when Naniwa's ro8 result came up and said that Naniwa is always lucky because his opponents play horrible against him, and Huk agreed.


Huk saying something like that is hilarious.
The only times he got far in tournaments were when he got insanely easy opponents, which he gets quite a lot o.0

yeah the ONLY times were when his opponents were INSANELY easy.

these types of comments are so fucking absurd



go ahead and link me a tournament in which Huk got far where he didn't have a much easier run then the other guys.

(Wiki)2011 MLG Pro Circuit/Orlando
:0000000000
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 phiinix   United States. April 27 2012 16:30. Posts 1126
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On April 27 2012 16:21 Jakkerr wrote:

Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 16:14 mambar wrote:

On April 27 2012 15:48 Jakkerr wrote:

On April 27 2012 13:57 zefreak wrote:

On April 27 2012 13:39 Shaddar wrote:

On April 27 2012 12:58 zefreak wrote:

On April 27 2012 12:39 Opeasy wrote:
I must say you guys were way too harsh towards naniwa. Bullying is not cool, even if you are trying to be funny. Six (or five, thorzain said very little during this) of the biggest personalities in sc2 talking shit about one guy is not cool. I hope you will apologize ASAP!


What did they say? After hearing what MC had to say about him, as well as HuK, im really curious if I missed something.


What did MC and Huk have to say about him?


Well MC said he was BM and disrespectful in the MLG Arena interview, also laughed when Naniwa's ro8 result came up and said that Naniwa is always lucky because his opponents play horrible against him, and Huk agreed.


Huk saying something like that is hilarious.
The only times he got far in tournaments were when he got insanely easy opponents, which he gets quite a lot o.0

yeah the ONLY times were when his opponents were INSANELY easy.

these types of comments are so fucking absurd



go ahead and link me a tournament in which Huk got far where he didn't have a much easier run then the other guys.


I'd say his orlando run was pretty good. In pool play he had MC, Hero and July (top 4 in the gourp anyhow), which I would say is harder, or at least isn't significantly easier than a group like Stc, Ret, HongUn, Rain, or Bomber, Sase, Sheth, Puma, or MKP, Idra, Haypro, Boxer. Then he beat MKP, STC, and MC again to win it, which isn't exactly a breeze.
 
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 bbm   United Kingdom. April 27 2012 17:11. Posts 1311
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Gotta say, I was listening last night for an hour or so until I fell asleep, seemed really good. Much more riveting than normal, some great discussion on kespa, invitationals, etc etc.

Keep it up bros and brahs!
By.Sun or By.Rain, he always delivers
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 -Archangel-   Croatia. April 27 2012 17:34. Posts 3662
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can anyone give me the link to the Dreamhack send off they were talking about in this show (the link Dan gave to Greg)?
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 FunnyPicture   Sweden. April 27 2012 17:38. Posts 145
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I honestly don't miss Day9 at all. He seldom contributes anyway and when he does he only plugs the tournaments he is running.
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 Eury   Sweden. April 27 2012 17:39. Posts 1051
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I think its unfair to say everyone bashed on Naniwa. It was pretty much Incontrol and Idra, and they are team mates with HuK.
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 Ryndika   Finland. April 27 2012 18:52. Posts 992
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Started to watch vods, but oi oi! I'm trying to eat breakfest xD.

sick collection of people in this podcast btw. <3
Last edit: 2012-04-27 18:53:32
I'm not otaku. | Ratatat | Depeche Mode | Love haypro/Huk <<3<3
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 FunnyPicture   Sweden. April 27 2012 19:40. Posts 145
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Americans shitting on a european player.. What else is new. U jelly yanks?

User was warned for this post
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 Gamegene   United States. April 27 2012 19:42. Posts 6847
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On April 27 2012 19:40 FunnyPicture wrote:
Americans shitting on a european player.. What else is new. U jelly yanks?


lol people don't like nani not because he's swedish, it's because he acts like prick.
"My love for Jaedong is like this: when I think of him practicing for 14 hours a day, my heart hurts and I want to massage his shoulders and make hot soups for him."
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 Icky   Denmark. April 27 2012 19:49. Posts 95
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On April 27 2012 14:01 Talin wrote:

Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 13:57 zefreak wrote:

On April 27 2012 13:39 Shaddar wrote:

On April 27 2012 12:58 zefreak wrote:

On April 27 2012 12:39 Opeasy wrote:
I must say you guys were way too harsh towards naniwa. Bullying is not cool, even if you are trying to be funny. Six (or five, thorzain said very little during this) of the biggest personalities in sc2 talking shit about one guy is not cool. I hope you will apologize ASAP!


What did they say? After hearing what MC had to say about him, as well as HuK, im really curious if I missed something.


What did MC and Huk have to say about him?


Well MC said he was BM and disrespectful in the MLG Arena interview, also laughed when Naniwa's ro8 result came up and said that Naniwa is always lucky because his opponents play horrible against him, and Huk agreed.



Bolded the ironic part.


It's funny because all I see HuK do is be an ass in interviews. Seriously don't get his fanbase.
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 xPliCt   Germany. April 27 2012 19:54. Posts 124
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Can someone tell me at which time the whole naniwa thing is discussed?
Last edit: 2012-04-27 19:55:58
 
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 Tppz!   Germany. April 27 2012 19:58. Posts 1330
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On April 27 2012 16:28 xBenderx wrote:

Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 16:21 Jakkerr wrote:

On April 27 2012 16:14 mambar wrote:

On April 27 2012 15:48 Jakkerr wrote:

On April 27 2012 13:57 zefreak wrote:

On April 27 2012 13:39 Shaddar wrote:

On April 27 2012 12:58 zefreak wrote:

On April 27 2012 12:39 Opeasy wrote:
I must say you guys were way too harsh towards naniwa. Bullying is not cool, even if you are trying to be funny. Six (or five, thorzain said very little during this) of the biggest personalities in sc2 talking shit about one guy is not cool. I hope you will apologize ASAP!


What did they say? After hearing what MC had to say about him, as well as HuK, im really curious if I missed something.


What did MC and Huk have to say about him?


Well MC said he was BM and disrespectful in the MLG Arena interview, also laughed when Naniwa's ro8 result came up and said that Naniwa is always lucky because his opponents play horrible against him, and Huk agreed.


Huk saying something like that is hilarious.
The only times he got far in tournaments were when he got insanely easy opponents, which he gets quite a lot o.0

yeah the ONLY times were when his opponents were INSANELY easy.

these types of comments are so fucking absurd


go ahead and link me a tournament in which Huk got far where he didn't have a much easier run then the other guys.


(Wiki)2011 MLG Pro Circuit/Orlando
:0000000000

I am sorry to say that but Huks Run at that tournament was pretty easy (except for MKP). There are 2 "free wins" in group stages + MC Hero and July. July wasnt good at that time, HerO was just coming up and had a lot of nerve issues while MC. Well Huk himself said that he watched MC play but MC never watched Huks play. So he had a big advantage.
After group stages:
MKP. this one is pretty hard
STC: Its known that oGs Terrans are very weak versus Protoss
Then MC again in an extended series.

Pretty easy with only MKP as a big problem based on Huks knowledge about MC, STC, Hero etc
 
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 Resilient   United Kingdom. April 27 2012 20:05. Posts 1206
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Imo MC/HuK/Naniwa are almost carbon copies of each other. With each of them specialising in a separate matchup and each having a notable weakness in one too. Not sure how MC/HuK can call Naniwa lucky when they've had tournaments with nothing but PvZ(MC) and PvP(HuK). I think MC needs to get over Naniwa's probe rush "BM" and HuK needs to accept there are other foreigner protosses as good/or better than him. It's clearly all an ego thing from both of them.
 
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