| JimmyJRaynor Canada. February 11 2011 09:43. Posts 1647 | Profile Blog # |
I can't believe how immature this statement is. In this whole thread, you've done nothing but make up excuses and trying to cover up the whole story, proving a level of incompetence I've rarely seen before....
incompetent?
while people were busy insulting avilo i was busy predicting his ascension over a month ago
http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?s=&showtopic=718503&view=findpost&p=7975239
and some people in here try to make some kind of theory that i am "biased against the guy". 
they don't even bother to listen to the CCLite #38 VOD where i state he is in an advantageous position while listing the unit count differences among other factors
as i like to say on the cast... "i'm not biased... i'm a broadcast journalist". |
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 avilo United States. February 11 2011 09:56. Posts 3245 | Profile Blog # |
On February 11 2011 07:10 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 11 2011 06:42 UnholyRai wrote:
I like the new rule, and in posting of this rule you admit that you handled the situation wrongly. So I think a full apology to Avilo (and the viewers) would be appropriate so we can all move on.
the admin and avilo disagree. no need for an apology. this is now a monstruous thread, has Avilo apologized for his refusal accept the administrator's decision and refusing to play on in the tournament while Gomas waited a long long time? a pillar of this new rule includes an arbitrary decision made by a CraftCup admin about what constitutes "drastically changed". a player in the future may still disagree what constitutes an admins arbitrary interpretation of "drastic change". if a player in a free event that pays out money to the winner disagrees with an admin we all know what happens every time. the CraftCup will continue to basically be the exact same tournament it has been over the past 18 months as KW.ConquerCup, ConquerCup, CraftCup and US.CraftCup... thousands have played in the past and as long as the combined monthy prize giveaway money amounts amongst CraftCup.com and its client partners continue to increase so will participation in this family of events.
? I never apologized for such a thing. I stand by my decision from b4. And if you think comparing a player to a retarded person on a live cast doesn't warrant an apology, then that's just you man.
The only reason people are even still talking about this is because you keep spewing out bs to cover your own ass.Last edit: 2011-02-11 09:58:18 |
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| JimmyJRaynor Canada. February 11 2011 10:25. Posts 1647 | Profile Blog # |
On February 11 2011 09:56 avilo wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 11 2011 07:10 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
the admin and avilo disagree.
no need for an apology.
this is now a monstruous thread, has Avilo apologized for his refusal accept the administrator's decision and refusing to play on in the tournament while Gomas waited a long long time?
? I never apologized for such a thing. I stand by my decision from b4. And if you think comparing a player to a retarded person on a live cast doesn't warrant an apology, then that's just you man. The only reason people are even still talking about this is because you keep spewing out bs to cover your own ass.
examining the last several posts none of it revolves around the 2 video clips, but rather the rule change CraftCup just instituted and whether or not the DQ was valid...
this thread has now folded over upon itself as now the contents of this very thread are becoming a source of debate and disagreement... so that is my last comment on this.....
notice my sentence "long long time.."ends in a question mark. i had no idea whether or not you apologized. .. its good that you've clarified it though.. this thread is now 10+ pages...its hard to keep track.
i suspect by the slang term "retarded" you mean mentally handicapped.
if you are using this slang term in some other fashion feel free to provide the correct interpretation.
it is 100% clear the way Nathan Barnatt is walking and talking that he is not mentally handicapped.
a mentally handicapped person can not form sentences as complex as Nathan does during the video. in fact, he is extremely lucid.
he clearly and carefully explains he is staggering around due to excessive back pain during every segment of the video. it is also clear that Nathan Barnatt in the video in question is the exact same guy as the "4 Bright BUttons and 2 Joysticks" guy which was on in the previous video 90 seconds earlier... again clearly not "retarded"/"mentally handicapped".
also, the whole thing would be way too big a contridiction... on the one hand as i was doing in my "radio report" you have taken BeastyQT, (top 1000 player out of millions buying the game) into a 45+ match where i say you hold an advantage and some how you are comparable to someone who is mentally handicapped.... makes no sense dude.
half of what i said during the video was me reading aloud what was written in the chat room and half was my own words.
you can always add this incident to the portfolio of victim hood credentials you are building in beefs with various web sites though.
as stated earlier this is my last comment on this.Last edit: 2011-02-11 10:28:48 |
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| Merano Austria. February 11 2011 17:24. Posts 66 | Profile # |
I don't like the new craft-cup rule (removing both players from the tournament if time runs out in a game). I think one fact everyone is leaving aside is that the game was the 2nd game in a BO3.
I would prefer a rule similar to other games do it, for example MTG:
* The whole series has a certain time limit, let's say 2h for a BO3, 1h for a BO1. A game, that is still not decided after the time limit for the whole series is expired, is automatically considered as a draw (no matter how big the advantage was for one side).
* Referes proving that you are intentionally stalling to reach the time limit in a losing position however (e.g. floating buildings), would result in a D/Q and probably also a several month ban.
* Playing passive in an open game would be fine.
This suggestion would handle all the 1:0 + 2nd game running out of time situations fine.
For situations with games 1:1 + 3rd game running out of time or BO1 games, I would suggest a tiebraker that needs no referees judgement, e.g. use army value (in resources) + unspent resources as tiebreaker. Whoever has more resources gets the win for the 3rd game. If you feel that the resource rule is not fair enough, I would even consider a coinflip.
Of course you should add some warnings at the 1h45 mark the the time limit is close.
I know that these suggestion are pretty harsh, not 100% thought through yet and might have an influence on the playstyle of the players in game 2 and 3 e.g. more cheese by the player down 0:1 or more focus on resources. But with some refinement, these suggestion could handle time limitations in tournaments in the most fair way.
You need also to consider potential racial imbalance, e.g. in a TvZ, maybe time management in a winning positon is easier for T instead for a Z player. But I think this suggested rule will effect TvT games 95% of the time.
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| flyersa Germany. February 11 2011 19:15. Posts 141 | Profile # |
i must admit... nice drama.
Oh wait... thats not the GSL  it was a what... 20 $ tournament? holy.... |
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 Dayvinho United Kingdom. February 11 2011 21:59. Posts 10 | Profile # |
It takes dramas and incidents like these for events such as CraftCup to move forward im afraid, decisions have to be made for mistakes to be made, so lessons can be learned.
Hopefully we can all take this life lesson away with us and give us all a better chance of understanding and accepting that life is just not fair sometimes.
Lets be honest, adding some Drama to an otherwise still and lifeless scene full of sycophants and infants is going to be entertaining, bring on the rage :DLast edit: 2011-02-11 21:59:50 |
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| the p00n Netherlands. February 12 2011 02:35. Posts 533 | Profile # |
| Is there a VOD or replay available of the game between beastyqt and avilo? |
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| F u r u y a Brazil. February 12 2011 02:47. Posts 144 | Profile # |
- Beastyqt was being outplayed.
- That definetly wasn't a draw.
- No need to stress, don't take things too seriously.
- I will continue to have fun watching CC@Endrey.
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| shaunnn Ireland. February 12 2011 03:19. Posts 1230 | Profile # |
| wow nerchio just raped beastyqt |
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| UnholyRai February 12 2011 03:20. Posts 717 | Profile # |
| The only reason such a fuss has been made is because of the complete negligence of the admins and casters to admit to their mistakes. Specifically Raynor, that guy appears to be living in la la land. Is it really so difficult to realise you've upset someone with your casting and accept responsibility? Last edit: 2011-02-12 03:25:44 |
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| Bobster Germany. February 12 2011 03:32. Posts 3066 | Profile # |
On February 12 2011 03:19 shaunnn wrote:
wow nerchio just raped beastyqt
Having to play nerchio in the first round must be some kind of divine punishment for his bm last time. :lol
Nerchio is an absolute beast. One of the top 3 random players in the world for sure.
Not as many good players participating today, though. But I'm willing to attribute this to Assembly (although Darkforce is playing - he got knocked out earlier today) and not this week's drama. I expect Druzdil, nerchio, Goody and Darkforce to dominate.
edit: oh god, goody vs avilo in round 5 - looks like we'll see the new rule enacted earlier than thought Last edit: 2011-02-12 04:02:19 |
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| FreeUrMind February 12 2011 04:11. Posts 608 | Profile # |
| Hahhahahah avilo playing Goody - expect 90 min game which ends in a tie and then another 90 min game |
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| Torai Denmark. February 12 2011 04:15. Posts 195 | Profile # | |
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| Torai Denmark. February 12 2011 04:18. Posts 195 | Profile # | |
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| Torai Denmark. February 12 2011 04:19. Posts 195 | Profile # |
On February 12 2011 03:20 UnholyRai wrote:
Specifically Raynor, that guy appears to be living in la la land.
Its called Canada |
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| Bobster Germany. February 12 2011 04:33. Posts 3066 | Profile # |
40 minute game already, map split down the middle, a bajillion tanks on the field.
Goddamn, these two are predictable.Last edit: 2011-02-12 04:35:47 |
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| Torai Denmark. February 12 2011 04:35. Posts 195 | Profile # |
On February 12 2011 04:33 Bobster wrote:
40 minute game already, map split down the middle, a bajillion tanks on the field.
Who would've thought. >_>
BUT theres actually alot of action |
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| Bobster Germany. February 12 2011 04:38. Posts 3066 | Profile # |
On February 12 2011 04:35 Torai wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 04:33 Bobster wrote:
40 minute game already, map split down the middle, a bajillion tanks on the field.
Who would've thought. >_>
BUT theres actually alot of action
Yep, Goody is too... good to let things just stagnate like that.
Avilo might have a similarly slow playstyle, but Goody is just a class above in micro and multitasking.Last edit: 2011-02-12 04:53:12 |
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| FreeUrMind February 12 2011 04:39. Posts 608 | Profile # |
| Hehehehe Goody invented the game avilo tries to play he is the ultimate turtling terran! |
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| Arkansassy February 12 2011 05:14. Posts 270 | Profile # |
I want to thank all of the "squeaky wheels" for getting this NEW rule up and running. It's not perfect, but because of the so-called "drama" there is now a rule governing future "long games." Possibly the only positive in an otherwise disappointing event.
I have both relatives and friends who live in Canada and even the girls there are "man enough" to admit when they've made a mistake in judgment.
A sorry few extended an apology, where one was definitely warranted  But my total and utter respect for those who did.
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