Joke aside, I think joining as many games as possible now to level up my Mafia's game experience would nice.
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Joke aside, I think joining as many games as possible now to level up my Mafia's game experience would nice. /in | ||
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I think I will wait a bit before deciding who I would vote for a Mayor. | ||
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From the posts three candidates made, I like Dr.H the most since he comes up with a most detailed why he should be elected. And by electing him as mayor, he needs to constantly prove his role to others, which if he fails, we can just lynch him. Unless other candidates come up with a better campaign post, my vote goes to Dr.H. But I still hope to read a better campaign post from Pandain and Bumatlarge too. | ||
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On October 30 2010 16:53 infinitestory wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2010 16:51 Veldril wrote: OMG, when I went to bed there was only around 20 pages, and when I woke up it's already 42 *-*. From the posts three candidates made, I like Dr.H the most since he comes up with a most detailed why he should be elected. And by electing him as mayor, he needs to constantly prove his role to others, which if he fails, we can just lynch him. Unless other candidates come up with a better campaign post, my vote goes to Dr.H. But I still hope to read a better campaign post from Pandain and Bumatlarge too. Make sure you read through at least the last 5 pages before deciding on DrH, because a lot of arguments detailing why DrH's plan and campaign are less viable than originally presumed have been made in the last couple pages. I'm not saying don't vote for DrH. I'm saying make sure you have the same facts as the rest of the town before electing a mayor. I understand where you come from. What I want to read is the constructive campaign posts from other candidates, which does not attack other candidates. So far from what I read (yeah, I read all the pages already), only Dr.H have the detailed, well formatted post why we should elect him. If other candidates can make such a post, then I will reconsider my vote. | ||
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On October 30 2010 20:39 LSB wrote: Cut the personal attacks Maybe someone already contracts Murrayitis | ||
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When half of the living players have Murrayitis, then players with Murrayitis would die? Or when half of the total players (since the beginning of the game) have Murrayitis, then the disease is triggered? I think it's kinda illogical if we count the number base on the total players. However, I would like to ask so that I could be completely sure that what I understand is correct. Another question that I think it's important but no one asks yet (or I don't see it, which I would apologize in advance in that case ), If half of the players is not equal to integral number, will the number be round up or round down? For example, if there are 21 people, would it require 10 or 11 people with Murrayitis to kill them? | ||
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When half of the living players have Murrayitis, then players with Murrayitis would die? Or when half of the total players (count all players since beginning of the game, including dead ones) have Murrayitis, then the disease is triggered? | ||
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Young's case could be either ways; he has a role that immune to lynch (more likely one time, since permanent immunity is slightly too OP), or he has someone protected him with or without him knowing. We need to get more information before we can conclude which is the case. Right now, I think it is agreeable that medic should protect veterans first. However; from what I see from Sinquity's role, I think most medics would also be able to cure Murrayitis, which could be a decisive factor in this game. But since we don't have any infected player yet, the curing of Murrayitis is moot for the time being, but it should be discussed more on the next night. I want to ask you guys something too. Would it be a good idea to analyze the Murrayitis's mechanics and how it would affect the game in the long run? I think I find it's interesting but I'm not sure if other players agree or not. | ||
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On November 02 2010 05:19 Glasse wrote: I think veldril might be scared of saying anything due to what happened in haunted mafia I'd love to hear him on this though I try to post something but having fever and playing Mafia make my head hurts even more T T Regarding Dr.H and jcarlson, I think there are too many possibilities to simply conclude anything. I still 80% certain that Dr.H is a town player. However, he needs to prove his role quickly or he will lose the trust from me. On Aeres, I really have no comments at this point (can't have good thinking right now T T). But I would not vote for him simply because of LAL. But I admit that young, and Dr.H made a good analysis on him. I will put my vote on Divinek for the time being. He's a vet and I want him to say something too. I have yet to see his post about current situation. Also, last game he barely posted and turn out to be red in the end so I think we need to force him to be more active this game too. | ||
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However, I don't think the infection rate will remain constant around 3 people. I think the infection rate will grow at exponential rate because Mafia can infect someone else + infected player can visit or be visited by someone. So we need to start thinking about how to find who is infected or not, how to prevent the spread, and who we should give immunity to too. | ||
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On November 03 2010 15:25 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: If I understand correctly apparently the mafia kill people and their is also a separate disease called murrayitis that runs around and kills townies. That's true. But the Murrayitis also kills scums too. So all medics, especially Plague Doctors, need to be extremely careful not to visit mafia at all cost. | ||
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On November 03 2010 22:32 jcarlsoniv wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2010 22:27 Ace wrote: yo Cubicle I got a question. Aeres claims bodyguard and Cruiseship Captain. How can he draw a scum hit if he won't even be there? rofl Well a scum hit ordered on someone who's not there would result in a wasted Mafia KP, wouldn't it? He means; Aeres claimed BG and Cruiseship Captain, therefore Mafia knows that he can evade a hit, therefore Mafia target someone else. | ||
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and Now for Radio Looney: "Blue pill is not what you think. @Glasse : Woa! I have my own twitter now! My scumbuddy is DoctorHelvetica! *wink* *wink* :3" Wait, is this the whole message from the radio (from Glasse)? Or part of it has been by someone hijacked and inserted the twitter into it? | ||
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On November 04 2010 15:36 infinitestory wrote: + Show Spoiler + OK GUYS. Summary of what we know so far for today. I've claimed ADD Detective with a check returning red on Coagulation. DCLXVI has claimed Mad Hatter with a bomb on Coagulation. Kenpachi has semi-claimed a role that gets super powers if he votes for a mafia who ends up getting lynched that day. Pandain has claimed trash collector, which checks the alignment of one player randomly every night (checks town on me and Nemesis). However, DrH et al. are leading a movement to lynch Pandain based on scummy play. So right now, we have Coagulation and Pandain facing the guillotine. we have 2 suggested plans: 1) Original plan. We lynch Coagulation today, vote double lynch for next day. We get a vig hit on Pandain tonight if possible, and decide next day's lynches based on that. Pros: Kill a mafia immediately. This may reduce mafia's KP as well. Kenpachi is guaranteed to be able to use his super powers. Is much simpler, and has less "what ifs." Conserves our Mad Hatter. If Pandain is blue, he has more time to prove it and might find us another red. Cons: We don't get as many kills. Also, if we don't use a vig, we might have to use a lynch on Pandain and it takes more time. We may also end up wasting one of DC's bombs. 2) Alternate plan. We lynch Pandain today, tonight DC moves his other bomb onto somebody more scummy. Next day, we lynch DC and another person, so DC's bombs blow up and kill Coagulation too. Pros: More kills, which means more chances to hit either town or red. Can conserve a vigilante. We lynch Pandain earlier and therefore have more time/information to decide next day's lynches. Cons: More "what iffy." Kenpachi is not guaranteed to be able to use his ability, DC might die overnight, mafia might have some other dastardly trick up their sleeves (remember, they have more information than us), wtf are we going to do if Pandain is blue, etc. As town, we should decide on one plan and ALL FOLLOW IT. The main reason for this is that Kenpachi can only use his ability if the player he votes for actually gets lynched, from what I read. We should aim to avoid letting the mafia steer us toward whichever one is more beneficial for them. I like the original plan more than the second one. -First reason is that he is a person who is accused of being red by infinitestory who claimed to be DT. I am more convinced in DT's claim than by looking at scummy claim. And if he turns out to be blue, we can cast our Eyes of Suspicion on Infinitestory and pressure him more in the future. -The second reason is that we have less risk. Unless we have a concrete plan of what to do if Pandain turns out to be blue, lynching Pandain right now will give us more risk of us being manipulated by scums in the future. -Finally, I don't think wasting one bomb from one Mad Hatter's bomb is that of a big deal. Although we don't know that there are more than one MH or not, we also don't have proof that there is ONLY one MH in this game too. Town also still have more methods to kill scum than a lynch and MH's bombs. My vote will be on Coagulation for now. | ||
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On November 07 2010 13:23 Nemesis wrote: Hyperbola has really been inactive this game. Here is DoctorH's analysis on hyperbola. It is not the most solid argument ever, but since we need to lynch two people for today, I will put my vote on him for now until someone else convinces me otherwise or I find a better target. + Show Spoiler + On November 05 2010 03:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Here's everyone who hasn't voted yet afaik: Lexpar Hyperbola Amber[LighT] Beneather Coagulation Hyperbola has been SUPER inactive this game, but isn't that off considering he ran for mayor on the basis of his great analysis and being a good player (rather than his role): Show nested quote + On October 29 2010 07:47 Hyperbola wrote: Citizens of Insania, I would like to announce my candidacy for mayor. In light of recent events, most importantly the town's development of many new powers, a new system of government must emerge to quell the chaos that is this town. It has come to our attention that the local mafia has begun to exploit their new abilities and are now aiming for total control of this fine community. In order to successfully repel them, a properly organized inner circle of supertownies must be established. This new circle needs leadership and commitment, and I believe I am the man for the job. Vote for Order! Vote Hyperbola! Show nested quote + On October 29 2010 09:45 Hyperbola wrote: On October 29 2010 08:29 bumatlarge wrote: On October 29 2010 07:47 Hyperbola wrote: Citizens of Insania, I would like to announce my candidacy for mayor. In light of recent events, most importantly the town's development of many new powers, a new system of government must emerge to quell the chaos that is this town. It has come to our attention that the local mafia has begun to exploit their new abilities and are now aiming for total control of this fine community. In order to successfully repel them, a properly organized inner circle of supertownies must be established. This new circle needs leadership and commitment, and I believe I am the man for the job. Vote for Order! Vote Hyperbola! On October 29 2010 07:49 CubEdIn wrote: *heads to the voting thread to vote for Hyperbola* *giggles* See, this is bad, we can't have this. Look how much nonsense he spouted. No of that means anything. IT MEANS NOTHING. Then this dude just votes for him? Sorry charlie not having it. You need to be voting for me. If I am not voed in, I will be Then I will become a Pandain/BM (without the getting modkilled part) and just bug everyone. But if I am! I will be :D Everything will go under my scrutinizer eye and no one will get any biased treatment. Except for maybe Ace, who I owe some respect for that penalty mafia game. He's allowed to do his own thing and not vote for me. An interesting strategy. You call me out on my magnificent speech and then proceed to say almost nothing yourself. Then you direct attention away from yourself and give the illusion of trying to help town by saying random things about the game. I don't think Cube was being serious when he posted that, but I however, was. I am very adept at organization and strategic play. Although I may have not been in as many mafia games and tend to stay quiet, I can still manage a team and have done so in games I was mafia in. The same skills can apply to town if we are able to sort out who's who and create a legitimate town circle. Furthermore, I am very adept at sorting out what's what's legitimate and what's bullshit. Unless there are some specific roles which may overcome my keen eye, I can guarantee you that there will be NO leaks in the town circle if I am voted mayor. As for the issue of whether I am mafia or not... you can be damn well sure that the first person to announce their candidacy for mayor as I did had better be really fucking good at defending themselves from clues if they're mafia. Other than that fact, I cannot guarantee anything. But that is what most elections are: a leap of faith. A hostile defense and further claims that he is a good scumhunter with a keen eye. No leaks in the town circle? What town circle, considering as far as we know you can't PM? Odd post. He's called out on that later and then claims town could probably talk on irc but Artanis tells him nope. Show nested quote + On October 29 2010 10:24 Hyperbola wrote: All this setback does is simply show that many things can technically be exploited in this game, with the influx of new abilities I believe a great strategy can be devised if the great minds of this game work together under one leader. I am still running for mayor. A vote for Hyperbola is a vote for a brighter future for us all. Show nested quote + On October 29 2010 11:06 Hyperbola wrote: What I am interested in is how forgetforeverine is going to factor into the game. Is it simply a role playing element and can a specific role can utilize it? Or is it just a way of having people "forget" about other mafia games... in which case we can't make arguments based on past actions. what is forgetforeverine? i don't remember anyone saying anything about this... Show nested quote + On October 30 2010 09:40 Hyperbola wrote: It's really pointless for me to vote for myself at this point so I guess I'll vote for Pandain. The other two prime candidates are all discussing secret societies and whatnot, and even though I'm all for those types of roles, I believe the mayor should really be a figurehead for the whole town. 1. It would be really difficult, and not to mention disadvantageous, for the mayor to prove they are a free mason or something along those lines 2. The mayor keeps the rest of the town out of the loop (because there wouldn't be a way to transfer secret data) and therefore causes confusion which can lead to unwarranted bandwagoning. 3. If the mayor dies, how will the circle prove itself to town afterward? After losing all leadership, the town will flop and scum will have it's way with the remains. And as for Pandain, I have seen his play style from the previous game and think he would make a good mayor. If he turns out to be mafia, and unless he has flawlessly acted out the role, people would notice and he'd be gone in a blink of an eye. Parrots the argument of distrust Coagulation was using that "Fishball is untrustworthy because he operates in secret circles/town circle. But, hyperbola, THE ENTIRE BASIS OF YOUR CAMPAIGN WAS ON CREATING A TOWN CIRCLE. Back to the "Vote pandain cause he's bad and we can tell if hes mafia ez" argument that coagulation used Show nested quote + On November 01 2010 01:51 Hyperbola wrote: On October 31 2010 20:20 youngminii wrote: oh god that was a shitfest, i didn't read everything to the full but i got the general gist of what's going on Before you ask me to do something stupid like roleclaim, ask yourselves: Why in God's name would scum have an ability that allows them to not die? Lynches always bypass the 'oh this guy has two lives' thing anyway. Why would I not try to defend myself after being pressured for so long? If you thought I was biding my time so that someone could try to take the attention away from me, why didn't anyone? DrH I'm surprised you didn't think of the second question. Also, a whole lot of your reasoning for your accusations in this thread comes from the metagame, which is stupid because some people like not playing the same style every single game. Stop relying on the metagame, especially if you've only seen me play *once*. Hang on, your reasoning is flawed anyway because if you actually used the metagame, you would have seen my active posting in Haunted Mafia as scum. Why in the world would you still try and get me lynched? Ok so these are the aspects of his role (if he's telling the truth): 1. avoid a lynch 2. no talking So I'm thinking his role is the ability to leave town, turn invisible, or hide in the closet for a night. I don't know why he wouldn't role claim but, more importantly, this doesn't seem like a scum-favored role. Think about it: why would scum leave town? Is the mob getting too hot for him? This would seem almost detrimental because if someone has a valid case against him, he can't argue it and just delays the inevitable 1 turn. I think the role is intended to just dodge night actions and simply dodges lynches and forbids speaking as a side effect. So in short, I think youngminii is innocent to some extent... for now. bit of a defense for youngminii. Coagulation attacked youngminii really hard. This doesn't clear hyperbola though, there are reasons why mafia might attack another mafia but the way coagulation did it was strangely intense. If Coagulation somehow flips blue I'd SERIOUSLY consider hyperbola. Show nested quote + On November 01 2010 07:29 Hyperbola wrote: Lexpar has successfully derailed the thread for like 3/4 of a page, lol. Not that we're really doing anything intense right now. Regarding youngminii, I don't think we really need to get to the bottom of the whole situation just yet as Coagulation stated. I think we should wait till day, analyze the day post and the deaths, and then resume "getting to the bottom of things". But as other people have said before me, role claiming is nothing but detrimental unless it's done right. Do not be like Aeres guys (no offense), his role claim was rash and could put him and others in danger. Show nested quote + On November 01 2010 09:54 Hyperbola wrote: Ok let's not fish for the elder. Why do the mafia's work for them? If he want's to be known he'll say it in the thread. Regarding Node: His role is really easy to fake. A mafia knows exactly who's going to die and he probably has a role that decided who to kill during the day or is just completely faking it. The reason I think this is because he explicitly asked for medic protection on night 1 and 3 people are now infected. I am assuming that Murrayitis starts off with only 1 host because otherwise it would take very little time to infect half of the town's population. I can't really prove anything right now but Node is now quite suspicious in my eyes. Show nested quote + On November 01 2010 09:56 Hyperbola wrote: On November 01 2010 09:53 Coagulation wrote: On November 01 2010 09:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On November 01 2010 09:24 jcarlsoniv wrote: On November 01 2010 09:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On November 01 2010 09:20 Misder wrote: @DH Earlier, you said you were going to poke the person you thought is most likely town. So why do you think that jcarls is town? Agreeable posts, good analysis, cool headed and logical. He didn't make a big roleclaim or bring a lot of attention onto himself and seemed for that reason to be a good target for me. Awwww that's the nicest thing anyone's ever said about me! ... on the internet... I didn't realize I was actually an important player in this game. On November 01 2010 08:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I would like to announce that last night I poked jcarlsoniv. I did not receive a PM from Artanis or LSB meaning the poke was successful and jcarlsoniv does not have murrayitis. I cannot confirm this Dr.H, I did not receive a PM from the mods saying I was poked. Did you receive any other night actions? Something stopped my poke from going through to jcarlsoniv. how fucking convenient. You do realize it would actually be a smart move for mafia to roleblock DrH? This can really flip either way at this point. Show nested quote + On November 02 2010 08:42 Hyperbola wrote: I honestly do not know who to vote for right now. Nothing seems solid. I'm gonna vote for someone random so I don't get modkilled. Show nested quote + On November 04 2010 08:41 Hyperbola wrote: On November 04 2010 08:24 CubEdIn wrote: Well if you want my opinion about the blue pill thing (let's assume I'm not lying), it's either: 1. A note from the admin. But it would be pointless, because I didn't take the blue pill. 2. A mafia being able to influence the Radio as well. It would make sense, half Glasse, half Mafia. I don't think this is the case. Otherwise Glasse would have said something. Anyone else thinks it's kinda weird that DCLXVI would have a "leave town role" like Aeres and potentially youngminii? Either that or Node is BSing us. Hyperbola has been mostly pretty inactive and a lot of his posts are just saying things the town had already really been talking about. I figured a mafia would drop out of the race when Mayor was revealed to be vulnerable to rolechecks and the way with which hyperbola ran his campaign fits this profile. I'd consider him as a second lynch tomorrow. A very strong target if coag flips blue imo I'm considering Hyperbola as a first candidate for the lynch tonight because of Dr.H's analysis. This is especially true that Dr.H is confirmed to tell the truth the whole time. I still not so sure about lynching Pandain at this point. Lynching him would give us a lot of information if he turns out to be blue. At least it would show that he told the truth. However, the drawback is also very big since we would lose someone who could confirm alignments of each player. One thing I'm curious is about Kenpachi's power. He claimed that his power will be activated if we lynched a mafia, which we did. If it's possible, I would like to know a little bit more about it. | ||
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1. He's blue and vig hit Deconduo. 2. He's the one who kill Dr.H (by hitting NB and have Deconduo swap those two), or the one who hit Cube. 3. If the phrase "involves in a hit" means "helping in a hit but doesn't necessary directly kill the target", then he could be a role blocker who block Cube's self protection. 4. Kitaman is a mafia and lied about Ace. From Ace's and Kitaman's arguements, I think the first possibility would me the most likely case, although we should keep EoS on both of them for the next day too. Although we would gain a lot of information by lynching Pandain tonight; I want to keep him alive today and lynch him later. He's already on a very short leash and needs to provide information to us everyday. One additional alignment check could be very important. To elaborate further, let's assume that he's blue and we lynch him today, we would only know 3 alignments out of 19 people (15%) or might be less than that after the night. However, if we let him live today, assuming that we lynch a mafia instead, we will know 4 alignment out 16 people (25%). And we could still use him as a shield for Mafia's hit tonight, if Mafia's feel threaten about his ability. On the other hand, it is still very likely that he's red. But if we could lynch a mafia (and preferably two) today, we could still reduce their KP. We could lynch him tomorrow, if he's really suspicious. In conclusion, I propose to let Pandain slides for today on a very short leash. If he cannot provide a good information tomorrow, then lynch him. I will vote for Hyperbola today based on Dr.H's final analysis. My second vote will go to Meapak_Ziphh. He's tie on my suspect list with KtheZ but since he's has more vote than KtheZ, I will vote him first. | ||
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Seems I count the the vote wrong, as some people unvote Meapak. I will vote KtheZ for my second vote instead. | ||
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