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Discussing the show and past episodes is fine. Do not put things that have happened in the TV series in spoilers. However, don't spoil things from the books that may happen in future episodes. Put book spoilers in spoiler tags with a CLEAR WARNING that it is from the book. | calgar United States. March 20 2012 08:18. Posts 901 | Profile Blog # |
I'm so glad they're going to end up at the prison. This is immensely psychologically appealing. I love the idea of them trying to hole up in a fortified area that could actually repel large zombie numbers. They pushed over the rickety old wood fences but they wouldn't get through a 20 foot high barbed wire fence. I figure there's no way the show would dangle that bit and then have them miss it. As well as the new badass with the zombies following.
The prison is amazing for a lot of reasons... Basically its a perfect place to hole up. Which is kind of exactly what the group needs right now. Tension is high, nerves are frayed, people are at odds with each other. Splitting up is the worst idea ever and they would certainly die off if they did that. What's her name thats always sad and annoying and maggie are being silly. Chancing it on your own when you are weak, lacking discipline, and unable to properly use firearms is suicide. Crazy Rick or not, he is a much better choice right now.
The prison is essentially the perfect place to live. Incredibly secure with sturdy fences, gates, guard towers, walls, etc. It probably has lots of floors and secure doors so they could sleep very securely with plenty of beds. There is also probably an armory that is likely to have at least some guns still in it. The armory at the station still had things in it so this is likely to have more than that I would say. They can park all their vehicles securely and essentially they can live close to a normal life for the time being. The one worry I can see is food so I would guess that they'll have 2-4 people go out on foraging missions to try and scrounge up whatever valuable stuff they can find like fuel, batteries, extra tools, etc. I'm curious to see if anyone will already be inhabiting it though. It seems like it's a pretty big place for only 10 people to man.
Great ending to the season overall. Everyone was disliking the stagnation at the farm and it's ended now with a few deaths. I somewhat expected Andrea to go down surrounded by a huge mob but props to her for making it out. She's got the most survival ability after Rick I think. Can't wait to see where it goes season 3! |
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| buickskylark Canada. March 20 2012 08:21. Posts 664 | Profile Blog # |
On March 20 2012 08:02 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 07:59 buickskylark wrote:
On March 20 2012 07:55 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On March 19 2012 23:57 Disengaged wrote:
On March 19 2012 23:48 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
People complaining about the two prisoner zombies when you haven't even heard them try to explain it yet.. lol.
I mentioned that Kirkman and Glen talked about that on the aftershow of talking dead. On the last page.
I saw that too last night but that's all speculation when it comes to future episodes (granted the speculation was pretty rational). It's not relevant anyways, people are already complaining it doesn't make any sense when it hasn't even been properly introduced.
I wish you would quote the people you're talking about because there are different opinions on why people might have a problem with a character like Michonne.
I think you're one of them actually. If you are one of the few who is complaining about how stupid it is that zombies could ever possibly be pacified, then that was directed at you. If that wasn't your complaint, then it wasn't directed at you. The specifics I'm referring to are even in the nestled quotes. It makes no sense to complain about that when it hasn't even been properly introduced and there's at least one perfectly plausible explanation for it (that I and others, including the after-talk-show guests have already pointed out, regarding animalistic instincts towards habituation of common experiences).
Well thank you for addressing the issue. You're right in that I was one of the people who complained about Michonne's appearance. But you're wrong in guessing my reasons. And that is why you need to quote the people you complain about otherwise you're lumping different people together.
As it is, I'm actually up to date on the Walking Dead series having read 93 issues thus far. I have zero issues with Michonne the comic character. I don't have issues with Michonne the series character either because we've only seen 10 seconds of her. My only gripe was the Anime like way she was introduced. It's out of place. There were so many ways to shoot that scene without being overly cheesy. Unfortunately it was just one of many terrible things I found with the season finale. Maybe I'm being overly negative but I've seen shows that are infinitely more complex to pull off but with smart writing and directing it became seamless. I'm of course talking about Firefly. And I'm not even a sci-fi geek.
Television isn't always easy to do. When it's done well it shows. But when the writing and acting sucks it really is hard to ignore. You can really tell the series as it is is a far cry from the first couple episodes of S1. I'm still going to watch it because I'm a big fan of the comics but man if they could just tighten up all the loose ends...
But that's just me. Obviously everyone has different tastes. I don't think I'm being way too judgmental.
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| RXMarS United States. March 20 2012 08:26. Posts 10 | Profile # |
| I really hope they don't turn on Rick, anyone comfort me that has read the comics and tell me they won't? lol :D thanks |
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| Spitfire South Africa. March 20 2012 08:36. Posts 442 | Profile # |
On March 20 2012 08:26 LeMOn_rm wrote:
I really hope they don't turn on Rick, anyone comfort me that has read the comics and tell me they won't? lol :D thanks
They're not that stupid, surely?
Oh wait, they are.
I agreed 100% with Ricks speech at the end. grey haired lady telling awesome redneck he deserves to be more then Ricks henchman? Characters questioning Ricks leadership after all he's done?
And Lori getting angry at Rick for killing the guy who was going completely nuts and was about to shoot him? The guy she gave the cold shoulder for a while even after he saved her and her kid? Whats her contribution to the group been other then crashing a car? Ridiculous character.
I was hoping it was Geralt of Rivia with the sword at the end, that would've been awesome. This Michonne and the governor do sound like cool characters though. Looking forward to next season.
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| Omnipresent United States. March 20 2012 08:48. Posts 871 | Profile Blog # |
On March 20 2012 07:49 buickskylark wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 07:43 Kira__ wrote:
On March 20 2012 07:31 tokicheese wrote:
The fuck no body asked about that guy who died in the trailer rofl
I guess even people in the show forgot about him...
I cant really blame rick for acting like that. Half of the group is fucking retarded and constantly bitching about his decisions.
Lori makes me want to stop watching the show. She is so unbelievable as a character, she tells rick to kill shane and then she gets all pissed off?. If rick had just walked away without carl randomly showing up they would still be safe on the farm and the horde would have just kept walking. Maybe zombie shane would show up and they could just quietly dispatch of him.
Also How does carl manage to sneak away.... They didnt have someone watching each door? Lori doesnt keep carl by her side after almost dying for the 10000000000th time? The fuck is she doing? Some guy is on the loose and she lets her kid get away so fucking stupid. Lori is the worst mother in the universe and carl does the exact same amount of stupid shit as his mom. Apple doesnt fall far from the tree i guess...
they did ask about him, and rick said he got overrun in the trailer
Yeah but the whole sequence around his death was stupid. Rick and Carl jumps onto the RV and instead of flooring it he gets up his seat and a bunch of zombies grab him and eat him. In fact, it seems like the Greene family has a knack for dying under the dumbest circumstances. Patricia was snatched by a leaping zombie that seemed to have the reflex of a Jamaican sprinter.
There's a lot to criticize in this show (especially this season) but this one that I don't see nearly enough. Unnatural dialogue, poor acting, and a really weak plot can be difficult to fix, but the these two deaths (and most of the escape scene) were really bad. Patricia's death in particular (assuming that's her name, I really never cared enough about her to learn it) was poorly done. The zombie comes out of nowhere, which is fine. I mean, what's a zombie show without zombies jumping out from around corners? The trouble is that the characters should have been able to see this zombie and easily avoid it. It was out of our (the camera's) line-of-sight, but it would have been about a foot away from the characters, in an open area (no trees, doors, sharp corners, or other sight blockers), and, up until about 1 second before the bite, right in front of them.
It's like they showed up on set with no plan and just started shooting. I know she was a minor character, but it was a major scene. The whole thing lacked cohesion. It was almost impossible to tell where any individual character was at any given time. How the hell did Andrea and Carol get separated? Weren't they right next to each other. If Andrea had to run to save herself, did the zombies just not want Carol? I mean, she looks a little frail, but I don't think the undead are too picky. |
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 HeavOnEarth United States. March 20 2012 09:01. Posts 6627 | Profile Blog # |
random ass helicopter lol
also yay fer comic stuff. Sword person, daryl = tyresse plzLast edit: 2012-03-20 09:01:28 |
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 tofucake United States. March 20 2012 09:05. Posts 11404 | Profile Blog # |
On March 20 2012 05:03 Spidinko wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 04:08 tofucake wrote:
On March 20 2012 03:43 Cosmology wrote:
On March 20 2012 03:35 Sentenal wrote:
On March 20 2012 03:29 blug wrote:
On March 20 2012 03:26 Sentenal wrote:
On March 20 2012 03:25 blug wrote:
On March 20 2012 03:11 Blisse wrote:
On March 20 2012 01:55 wo1fwood wrote:hmmm... after this episode I'm actually debating if I should continue to watch. Some of it seemed rather, well forced. Scratch that, a lot of it seemed forced. Like why the walkers were migrating in the first place (GET TO THE CHOPPAHH!)? How about the zombies casually limping towards Hershel in such a convenient manner that he gets to stay alive (forgot how to run huh)? Next the death of Hershel's daughter, whats her name  Patricia, as all of a sudden a ninja zombie jumps her at the most convenient time, and BAM, we have some drama (oh wait you were laughing at that? :/). Also, why is Laurie upset that Shane got killed by Rick based on her past behavior?? I'm reeaally trying to just sit and enjoy this show without over-analyzing, but jesus they're making it hard for me. Sorry that was a little harsher than I normally try to be  Also, lol
First season was a joke. Zombies were running and using rocks. That doesn't happen, ever. And I'm glad that hasn't made a reappearance in the second season. And "GET TO THE CHOPPAHH!" wtf ? It's perfectly possible to stand there and take a stand against an infinite number of zombies provided you don't have to reload and you always have a retreat ( and you're never tired ). Andrea showed that enough. Patricia's death was forced. I couldn't tell if they were paying attention because he came out of nowhere. + Show Spoiler [comic] + it reminded me of one of the recent comics and the woman holding Carl's hand before Carl ... Laurie is upset that Rick let Carl use a gun I think. She only reacted when he said that. Otherwise she was okay. Her acting was kinda bad though for the scene, which probably makes it more confusing. Steven Yeun ( Glenn ) did an AMA on Reddit, I can't find the link though, but he said you're supposed to hate her character. Finally at the guy mad about the tires, even for consistency, you only notice these things if you nitpick about the episode most of the time. I'd rather they be not consistent and use the right tires than have Daryl slip and injure himself? Here's a bunch of Matrix mistakes that seem to be much worse than replacing tires and from a major producer. @blug, you need an energy source to survive. As we have not encountered non-organic and non-carbon based lifeforms, we are in no position to say they need energy to survive. It's like asking if Superman needed to eat, which is very debatable. Ideally, walkers should be crawlers, since walking requires memory, but zombies should have no memories of anything. But crawling zombies would be too easy. Running should be impossible, and is, rightly so. It's not about them catching up because they're running, but because you're out of energy ( yay Andrea! ).
If you are able to walk, there is work involved, and with work energy is required, so there must be an energy source. Unless of course it's super natural...
They are zombies, of course they are super natural.
Well, although they could be supernatural, that's assuming that the zombies weren't created through a blunder in science or was a deliberate terrorist type action. It could also be an act of god or something, + Show Spoiler +Hershel referenced within the comic that it could be an act of god. But to be fair he is a supersticious old man xD
Its not uncommon for science to create things that are supernatural. Zombies by their nature are supernatural, regardless of their origin/reason. Best to not dwell on things like that too much.
Science never creates something super natural and never will...by definition science is the study of nature, and something that is super natural is above nature and not held to laws of nature, and nothing super natural is known to exist and doesn't exist, if the zombies are super natural then they were not created through science and a cure isn't being developed in france...
Science creates all kinds of things which are super natural. For instance, the computer you use does not occur in nature. There are many elements which were created in labs. Pretty sure fast food is super natural too.
That's not what the word "supernatural" means  http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/supernatural
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| Xinder United States. March 20 2012 09:07. Posts 1397 | Profile Blog # |
| Am I the only one that viewed the very beginning of the episode with the helicopter as the directors explaining how the herd of zombies got to the forest by the farm? Not something that happened like the same day? Cause that scene with the helicopter was in one of the earlier episodes I'm pretty sure...maybe even season 1. |
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| buickskylark Canada. March 20 2012 09:13. Posts 664 | Profile Blog # |
On March 20 2012 09:07 Xinder wrote:
Am I the only one that viewed the very beginning of the episode with the helicopter as the directors explaining how the herd of zombies got to the forest by the farm? Not something that happened like the same day? Cause that scene with the helicopter was in one of the earlier episodes I'm pretty sure...maybe even season 1.
No, that was exactly what the helicopter scene was intended for. It was sort of a zombie's perspective as to how they arrived on the farm and that's why at the end of the sequence you see Rick and Carl from the end scene of the previous episode. |
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 p4NDemik United States. March 20 2012 09:23. Posts 13823 | Profile Blog # |
| Yeah that's something I didn't mention, that was really well executed and showed how a herd forms, walks mindlessly, then reacts to new stimuli. It did a lot of dispel the "how the hell did that group of zombies conveniently get there" feelings. It's still convenient but at least you realize that it is a meandering group that may have missed the farm if there weren't any major stimuli like gunshots/burning barn/etc. |
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| HeavOnEarth United States. March 20 2012 10:07. Posts 6627 | Profile Blog # |
On March 20 2012 09:23 p4NDemik wrote:
Yeah that's something I didn't mention, that was really well executed and showed how a herd forms, walks mindlessly, then reacts to new stimuli. It did a lot of dispel the "how the hell did that group of zombies conveniently get there" feelings. It's still convenient but at least you realize that it is a meandering group that may have missed the farm if there weren't any major stimuli like gunshots/burning barn/etc.
Yah they did surprising well with a lot of minor things. HOWEVER
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| Cloud9157 United States. March 20 2012 10:17. Posts 1734 | Profile # |
On March 20 2012 08:18 calgar wrote:
She's got the most survival ability after Rick I think. Can't wait to see where it goes season 3!
Daryl says hi.
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| calgar United States. March 20 2012 10:23. Posts 901 | Profile Blog # |
On March 20 2012 10:17 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 08:18 calgar wrote:
She's got the most survival ability after Rick I think. Can't wait to see where it goes season 3!
Daryl says hi.
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| Kira__ Sweden. March 20 2012 10:30. Posts 2672 | Profile # |
On March 20 2012 10:23 calgar wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 10:17 Cloud9157 wrote:
On March 20 2012 08:18 calgar wrote:
She's got the most survival ability after Rick I think. Can't wait to see where it goes season 3!
Daryl says hi.
Heh you're right he's probably the best, forgot about him. I'm always worried that he's going to infect himself from his bloody bolts though.. Pull it out, scratch your eye, whatever.
they are all already infected, it's only when you die that you turn |
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| OperationIvy United States. March 20 2012 10:40. Posts 13 | Profile # |
On March 20 2012 10:07 HeavOnEarth wrote:where the fuck was the we are the walking dead speech.
I'm guessing they decided to save it for season 3 because..
+ Show Spoiler +that's when it happened in the comics(at the prison)? |
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| Leth0 March 20 2012 10:58. Posts 856 | Profile # |
On March 20 2012 10:30 Kira__ wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 10:23 calgar wrote:
On March 20 2012 10:17 Cloud9157 wrote:
On March 20 2012 08:18 calgar wrote:
She's got the most survival ability after Rick I think. Can't wait to see where it goes season 3!
Daryl says hi.
Heh you're right he's probably the best, forgot about him. I'm always worried that he's going to infect himself from his bloody bolts though.. Pull it out, scratch your eye, whatever.
they are all already infected, it's only when you die that you turn
Or get bitten? |
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| Radioman Canada. March 20 2012 11:10. Posts 896 | Profile Blog # |
On March 20 2012 10:58 Leth0 wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 10:30 Kira__ wrote:
On March 20 2012 10:23 calgar wrote:
On March 20 2012 10:17 Cloud9157 wrote:
On March 20 2012 08:18 calgar wrote:
She's got the most survival ability after Rick I think. Can't wait to see where it goes season 3!
Daryl says hi.
Heh you're right he's probably the best, forgot about him. I'm always worried that he's going to infect himself from his bloody bolts though.. Pull it out, scratch your eye, whatever.
they are all already infected, it's only when you die that you turn
Or get bitten?
The bite can kill because the zombies mouths are like cesspools. From my understanding its if you get bit and you fight the infection you won't necessarily become a zombie.
Correct me if I'm wrong. |
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| GhostOwl March 20 2012 11:15. Posts 495 | Profile Blog # |
On March 19 2012 14:44 buickskylark wrote:
That prison better have one magnificent kitchen cause those bitches are going crazy.
Thanks for the spoiler...Last edit: 2012-03-20 11:16:26 |
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| Radioman Canada. March 20 2012 11:18. Posts 896 | Profile Blog # |
On March 20 2012 11:15 GhostOwl wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 14:44 buickskylark wrote:
That prison better have one magnificent kitchen cause those bitches are going crazy.
Thanks for the spoiler...
The episode aired more then 24 hours ago. Would you like the thread to wait a week after to discuss events that happened in the episode.
FYI jimmy died |
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| GhostOwl March 20 2012 11:20. Posts 495 | Profile Blog # |
On March 20 2012 11:18 Radioman wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 11:15 GhostOwl wrote:
On March 19 2012 14:44 buickskylark wrote:
That prison better have one magnificent kitchen cause those bitches are going crazy.
Thanks for the spoiler...
The episode aired more then 24 hours ago. Would you like the thread to wait a week after to discuss events that happened in the episode. FYI jimmy died
No, I already saw the season finale when I wrote that post. I had no idea (some people too) that it was a prison |
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