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[Champion] Singed

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 sRapers_ValkS   United States. November 05 2010 12:57. Posts 373
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Edit: This guide is old and dated, I hate to have this OP just link to a guide that can be found on solomid, but here is the newest Dyrus guide:

Dyrus: http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=7397

I'm sorry I don't play this champ often enough anymore to have the confidence to write a real guide! Take Dyrus's advice!

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 Synthesis   Canada. November 05 2010 13:38. Posts 144
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I use pretty much the same runes, opting for flat magic resist instead in glyphs.

I build him pretty similar, start off dorans -> RoA, and then finish treads. I usually get a neg cloak after because this'll put him at about 125~ resist and a similar amount in armor when you ult. At this point of the game you can just tank a ridiculous amount of damage.

As for the item list, I really like banshee's too because you get a ton of hp from it, as well as some needed magic resist.

Singed doesn't really have that good of a laning phase unless you put him with someone that has high burst like Xin, Ryze, etc. Then that lane becomes incredibly easy because the second you fling anyone they're going to die.

I think Singed kicks in around when he finishes his RoA and through the midgame though. Once it's lategame your poison really does minimal damage to anyone with banshee's and if you try to initiate you'll just get kited for all your hp.
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 DefMatrixUltra   Canada. November 05 2010 14:44. Posts 1164
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On November 05 2010 13:38 Synthesis wrote:

Singed doesn't really have that good of a laning phase unless you put him with someone that has high burst like Xin, Ryze, etc. Then that lane becomes incredibly easy because the second you fling anyone they're going to die. [1]

I think Singed kicks in around when he finishes his RoA and through the midgame though. Once it's lategame your poison really does minimal damage to anyone with banshee's and if you try to initiate you'll just get kited for all your hp. [2]


[1] Laning with position-based champs (Garen) is pretty strong as well. I find laning to be 100% about how fast you can get that Catalyst. A tough lane is any lane that stops you from doing that. After Catalyst, you can wander around almost senselessly in most lanes.

[2] Singed late game is all about split-pushing for me. With more and more AoE CC, Singed isn't terribly good in a teamfight because he provides less free kills and protection than someone like Shen. However, if your team can defend or poke 4v5, Singed can be a really unstoppable pain in the ass. Like really, how are you gonna kill him without sending a large part of your team?
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 petered   United States. November 06 2010 07:23. Posts 1004
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You forgot the most important item beside RoA on singed, which is Rylai's imo. It only gets 15% slow on the poison, but that is a big deal when you can usually apply it to their whole team in a team fight.
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 sRapers_ValkS   United States. November 06 2010 07:26. Posts 373
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On November 06 2010 07:23 petered wrote:
You forgot the most important item beside RoA on singed, which is Rylai's imo. It only gets 15% slow on the poison, but that is a big deal when you can usually apply it to their whole team in a team fight.

its up there under Mid to Late game
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 STS17   United States. November 13 2010 01:51. Posts 1398
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What are you guys running for masteries on him? I typically do 0/21/9 but I've been debating a more utility heavy build (0/15/15 maybe). Also, what are thoughts on expanded mind for him? With your passive it's an extra 12.5 health for every 1k mana you have.
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 myopia   United States. November 13 2010 01:58. Posts 2260
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Dyrus runs a full AP page on Singed iirc
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 Haemonculus   United States. November 13 2010 06:32. Posts 6046
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Most important aspect of playing Singed is making fart-noises whenever you turn Q on.
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 ZeeMan   Australia. November 13 2010 09:24. Posts 58
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I tried singed but I feel useless late game. With only 1 RoA my poison does insignificant damage, and after I flip someone I just run around like an idiot waiting for flip to come off cooldown again. Even when I'm tanky as hell theres no way I can force them to attack me so I don't really contribute much to team fights.
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 Jaksiel   United States. November 13 2010 10:07. Posts 3266
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On November 13 2010 06:32 Haemonculus wrote:
Most important aspect of playing Singed is making fart-noises whenever you turn Q on.


Also very important is just being a giant asshole in general.
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 STS17   United States. November 13 2010 10:09. Posts 1398
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On November 13 2010 09:24 ZeeMan wrote:
I tried singed but I feel useless late game. With only 1 RoA my poison does insignificant damage, and after I flip someone I just run around like an idiot waiting for flip to come off cooldown again. Even when I'm tanky as hell theres no way I can force them to attack me so I don't really contribute much to team fights.


The trick is figuring out how to squeeze more AP into your build, if you can only farm up one RoA and that is your only AP item you won't be hurting much of anything, getting something like an Abyssal Scepter or Rylai's (both if you can) are good and also give you AP to make you more threatening.
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 Awesomo   Netherlands. November 16 2010 03:42. Posts 160
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Is singed good at babysitting a carry? He was my first champ, and i remember him being pretty dominant in laning phase.

(I'm having a 5v5 grudgematch with some friends, and need to work out a good team comp.)
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 arb   Noobville. November 16 2010 04:24. Posts 11078
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On November 13 2010 10:09 STS17 wrote:

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The trick is figuring out how to squeeze more AP into your build, if you can only farm up one RoA and that is your only AP item you won't be hurting much of anything, getting something like an Abyssal Scepter or Rylai's (both if you can) are good and also give you AP to make you more threatening.

well imo, most carries arent going to have alot of magic rez, so poison will still be doin decent too them(i mean 60/s) off of their like 1500 hp is still kinda hefty, and with insanity up singeds autoattacks cant exactly be taken lightly either..

usually vs most teams since i run armor/magic rez runes ill do
managem/dorans
boots 1
catalyst/RoA
boots 3
Fon
(other tanky items here as needed) usually ill take a QSS after FoN just for the extra cleanse(i run ghost cleanse with imp cleanse always)

you'll have alot of hp with just RoA so stats like armor and such are pretty important too imo.
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 Nehsb   United States. November 16 2010 04:48. Posts 194
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On November 16 2010 03:42 Awesomo wrote:
Is singed good at babysitting a carry? He was my first champ, and i remember him being pretty dominant in laning phase.

(I'm having a 5v5 grudgematch with some friends, and need to work out a good team comp.)


How do you play him in laning phase? Once I get my rod, singed feels pretty strong but I've never won a lane where my partner wasn't sona/taric. It just feels like before I get catalyst I'm completely useless.
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 Awesomo   Netherlands. November 16 2010 06:09. Posts 160
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On November 16 2010 04:48 Nehsb wrote:

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How do you play him in laning phase? Once I get my rod, singed feels pretty strong but I've never won a lane where my partner wasn't sona/taric. It just feels like before I get catalyst I'm completely useless.


I haven't played him in a while, but when i did, i just went for catalyst and then farmed the shit out of the lane, while laughing at people trying to harrass. (this must have been like lvl 10-15, though, my opponents and i weren't that good.)

I'm thinking singed should be able to deny experience and last hits quite effectively. Camping just outside tower range and leaving a wall of poison when they move closer, maybe even flinging one of them to your carry.
Last edit: 2010-11-16 06:09:34
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 Mogwai   United States. November 16 2010 06:11. Posts 8012
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On November 16 2010 04:48 Nehsb wrote:

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How do you play him in laning phase? Once I get my rod, singed feels pretty strong but I've never won a lane where my partner wasn't sona/taric. It just feels like before I get catalyst I'm completely useless.

singed just needs any scary lanemate. if they can disable, toss -> poison -> slow is really strong, though of course it chugs through your mana.
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 zulu_nation8   China. February 02 2011 16:47. Posts 18689
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Can someone give a brief summary on how people play him now?
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  UniversalSnip   February 02 2011 17:16. Posts 4820Profile Blog # 
Catalyst and sunfire are his best items in my opinion.

Money spent on ap is wasted, his ratios are terrible and his base damage is pretty high. Counting toss you get .4 damage per second per point of ap. By comparison sunfire passive costs about 750 gold. To get 40 dps by spending on ap you would have to burn 2035 gold.

I haven't built rod of ages once on him since I did that math and I don't miss it, the blasting wand third of that item is a waste of money. I would rather buy banshee's and guise
Last edit: 2011-02-02 17:17:14
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 Unentschieden   Germany. February 02 2011 19:23. Posts 1144
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No because Sunfire boosts your Deee peee essss, while you actually want burst, especially during the laning phase. AP doesn´t do as much damage over time as Sunfires but for a first item that isn´t usefull. If you go Catalyst->Sunfire you delay increasing your damage by the whole Cost of sunfires while Rod relativly quickly gives you the staff and the whole item as well faster.

40 DPS ignores that the poison lingers on enemies, AP boosts your Tower dps and is multiplicative with Deathcap.

Sunfires is usefull later in the game when you stand in the middle of 5 enemies. Long term damage is better when the enemy can´t disengage as easily, aka commited Teamfights.

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  UniversalSnip   February 03 2011 04:39. Posts 4820Profile Blog # 
Ok, none of that is true except that catalyst sunfire takes longer to build than catalyst rod of ages. the fact that you even mention deathcap or think that you are still going to be in lane phase after farming up catalyst + sunfire means we are not on the same page
Last edit: 2011-02-03 04:40:57
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