AD Nida I feel carries harder especially if you go Triforce build but AP Nida is good on a well balanced team. WW is just hard to kill in general but most people you just win trades and just pounce ignite EQ them
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Mondeezy United States. April 29 2012 10:25. Posts 912
On April 29 2012 08:21 MooMooMugi wrote: AD Nida I feel carries harder especially if you go Triforce build but AP Nida is good on a well balanced team. WW is just hard to kill in general but most people you just win trades and just pounce ignite EQ them
Items/Skills/Runes for AD Nid?
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MooMooMugi United States. April 29 2012 10:37. Posts 4463
Reds-Flat AD for easier last hitting during early game, ARpen for better mid-late game damage Yellows- Armor of course Blues- Armor for more durability, Flat MR/MR level against AP Quints- Flat AD or ARpen for same reasons as above, MS/HP/HPregen also viable.
Masteries: Standard is 21/9/0- focusing on 3/3 Flat AD, 4/4Attack Speed, 10% ARpen, 4/4AD per level, 1/1Crit damage, 1/1Turret Damage, 2/3 Lifesteal, 3/3 Arpen, 1/1Executioner(helps your Q finish people off easier)
OR
9/21/0- Alternative build if you want a tankier Nidalee, recommended for straight tank or Atmogs build with Basic offense masteries, 3/3 Armor, 4/4 HP per level, 1/1 Flat HP, 3/3 Movement speed, 3/3 CDR, 2/2 Minion Damage, 1/1 Juggernaut
Items: Starting depends on matchup, against tough bruisers such as Riven, GP, Renekton you'd want to start cloth+5, against AP or anyone else like Warwick, Udyr, Kennen start boots+4
Against Bruisers- You can either go straight for Wriggles if you're doing well and have a lot of gold early on, or go for Ninja Tabi and 1 or 2 Dorans. From there you can go straight Triforce if you're fed, starting with Phage for the slow procs, or Warmogs or Frozen Mallet if you arent. Next is some more durability with basic tank items, Frozen Heart, Randiuns, G.A., Atmas all benefit Nidalee.
Against AP- Can go a Dorans into Mercs, Hexdrinker build, havent tried Wit's End on her so not sure if its good. A more HP orientated build is recommended unless of course if fed go Triforce and just kill everything.
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Mondeezy United States. April 30 2012 09:17. Posts 912
On April 29 2012 10:37 MooMooMugi wrote: AD Nid Runes:
Reds-Flat AD for easier last hitting during early game, ARpen for better mid-late game damage Yellows- Armor of course Blues- Armor for more durability, Flat MR/MR level against AP Quints- Flat AD or ARpen for same reasons as above, MS/HP/HPregen also viable.
Masteries: Standard is 21/9/0- focusing on 3/3 Flat AD, 4/4Attack Speed, 10% ARpen, 4/4AD per level, 1/1Crit damage, 1/1Turret Damage, 2/3 Lifesteal, 3/3 Arpen, 1/1Executioner(helps your Q finish people off easier)
OR
9/21/0- Alternative build if you want a tankier Nidalee, recommended for straight tank or Atmogs build with Basic offense masteries, 3/3 Armor, 4/4 HP per level, 1/1 Flat HP, 3/3 Movement speed, 3/3 CDR, 2/2 Minion Damage, 1/1 Juggernaut
Items: Starting depends on matchup, against tough bruisers such as Riven, GP, Renekton you'd want to start cloth+5, against AP or anyone else like Warwick, Udyr, Kennen start boots+4
Against Bruisers- You can either go straight for Wriggles if you're doing well and have a lot of gold early on, or go for Ninja Tabi and 1 or 2 Dorans. From there you can go straight Triforce if you're fed, starting with Phage for the slow procs, or Warmogs or Frozen Mallet if you arent. Next is some more durability with basic tank items, Frozen Heart, Randiuns, G.A., Atmas all benefit Nidalee.
Against AP- Can go a Dorans into Mercs, Hexdrinker build, havent tried Wit's End on her so not sure if its good. A more HP orientated build is recommended unless of course if fed go Triforce and just kill everything.
Thanks much sir.
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sylverfyre United States. June 02 2012 15:43. Posts 4135
Relatively new to nidalee (and solo top) here. I always feel at a loss for what items to build after wriggles triforce. Also, if I'm against someone with magic damage (Kennen, rumble, w/e) I feel like wriggles is a bit awkward - should I just sit on the lifesteal scepter? Or get the wriggles anyway for better pushing and/or jungle-thievery? Also, how should I be building after the triforce? Usually I end up doing something like:
Wriggles Tabi Phage [chainmail/negatron/maybe hexdrinker?] Triforce
What now? People used to get Atmogs at this point, but is it still worth it with atmas nerf? And is +HP better than +Resists when you have a heal and lifesteal?
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nyxnyxnyx Indonesia. June 02 2012 18:57. Posts 1159
I feel like getting Wriggles at all is overkill nowadays. I only get it vs hard AD based lanes. Just double dorans into faster phage. You still have 9% lifesteal with double doran's + masteries. If you get double doran's you can even use the ~625 gold you've saved to buy a chain vest or negatron flat out. Up to you though. Chalice mercs is good too ^^. Maybe good on AP Nid now too with the new item.
AP Nid is beast on poke comps. A bit like Gragas, except you have more single target poke. But Gragas has AoE damage and can use his ult to disengage. Actually, I think you could do a double AP comp with both.
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obesechicken13 United States. June 03 2012 09:22. Posts 4242
How do you handle Rumble as Nid? Feels like you should be able to crush him as AD, but the windows to harass him feel absolutely tiny. Maybe AP works out so your manaless harass beats his manaless harass.
On June 06 2012 03:29 Harrow wrote: How do you handle Rumble as Nid? Feels like you should be able to crush him as AD, but the windows to harass him feel absolutely tiny. Maybe AP works out so your manaless harass beats his manaless harass.
Just keep poking him from bushes, run if he tries to commit to an exchange. He shouldn't be able to sustain against your harrass pre-6, and your burst and additional mobility should really scare him post-6.
I really don't think you should go AP nid if your goal is to beat Rumble in lane. AD nid has much stronger ranged harrass (auto-attack costs no mana, can't be blocked by minions, and has much lower cool-down), and using Cougar form to harrass makes it easy for Rumble to land Q and E. Better to harrass from afar and use Cougar to finish him off (or flee if necessary).
noda0001 United States. June 23 2012 11:16. Posts 11
"This build should be called the Neutron Bomb build - you can win by taking out all the people but leaving all the structures standing." - somebody about iEchoic's 2fac/2port (www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=189624)
FlaShFTW United States. June 23 2012 13:00. Posts 4960
ap nid is better suited on a very nice poke comp team. with her spears, she can basically OHKO supports.
i've played ad nidalee once. i dont really like her that way. i feel that shes better off as an ap champion. i mean sure her cougar is better and she can push towers faster, but ap nidalee can still deal tons of damage in cougar and can still push towers.
also, YOU CANT CHASE NIDALEE!!!!
Never Surrender. Never GG. Always Fighting. BW4LYF. Woo Jung Ho Never Forget.
So, after having some successful games with nidalee, I gotta say both ad and ap are viable but very situational.
1st game I played AP and our team was doing badly (10-20), and we lost bot and mid outer towers, enemy lost only mid outer. After some random roaming we got a stalemate inbetween two top towers, their Amumu (quite fed) was trying to initiate by tossing his Q, I had blue buff, two dorans and NLR. I fucking poked them to death with spears, so our graves quite fed went to push bot. They couln't leave top, because we were ready to take down the tower, afterawhile rene moved bot but got killed by our talon and graves. Then we got tower, graves got bot inhibitor and we snowballed to win.
2nd game I played AD vs nasus top, needless to say I won the lane easily, they're team went to fight dragon, where our super smart janna and syndra were holding them. Eventually they managed to kill 3 of us in 5v4 fight but I already got top inhibitor and killed a nexus tower (nida's E steroid is so op). Top half of the map was totally warded so we had easy time ganging their blue buff and pushing other lanes, and winning the game.
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