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| Alabasern United States. July 11 2012 09:58. Posts 2831 | Profile Blog # |
On July 11 2012 09:54 RespectedPuddle wrote:
why do people say to avoid beats by dre and bose? I have bose desktop speakers and i love em
I have only read they are overpriced and overrated in the headphone variety. Non-headphone Bose speakers are not within that focus of criticism. |
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| decafchicken United States. July 11 2012 10:04. Posts 15146 | Profile Blog # |
On July 11 2012 09:58 Alabasern wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 09:54 RespectedPuddle wrote:
why do people say to avoid beats by dre and bose? I have bose desktop speakers and i love em
I have only read they are overpriced and overrated in the headphone variety. Non-headphone Bose speakers are not within that focus of criticism.
Correct. And bose speakers generally follow the same pattern. Not that they necessarily sound bad, but you're just paying unnecessary amounts of money for the trendy bose name.
You'll need to provide information on what kind of headphones (in ear, over ear, open/closed, etc) and what kind of sound signature you like (even, bass heavy, etc etc). If you can, try out some headphones in store if you know a place that carries sennheiser, denon, audiotechnics, beyer, grados, etc. |
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 Womwomwom July 11 2012 15:31. Posts 5514 | Profile Blog # |
Bose headphones are good if what you are looking for is active noise cancellation and comfort. Anything else, look elsewhere.
Similarly, their speakers are pretty decent if what you're looking for is raw noise (not fidelity of any sort), though I imagine you can just get an alternative from JBL. Bose is still what I think of when I hear "acoustic cannon" however. |
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| mathemagician1986 Germany. July 11 2012 16:09. Posts 544 | Profile # |
I have these:
![[image loading]](http://www.bose.com/assets/images/shop_online/new/qc15/qc15_si_lg.jpg)
I ruined my hearing as a teenager riding the bus to school for 2 hours every day, while listening to my maxed out volume iPod. These headphones allow me to listen to quiet music, because they cancel out surrounding noises, so I don't have to turn the volume up so high. I wish I had had them when I was a kid  Last edit: 2012-07-11 16:10:25 |
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| ieatkids5 United States. July 12 2012 02:52. Posts 4383 | Profile Blog # |
On July 11 2012 15:31 Womwomwom wrote:
Bose headphones are good if what you are looking for is active noise cancellation and comfort. Anything else, look elsewhere.
Similarly, their speakers are pretty decent if what you're looking for is raw noise (not fidelity of any sort), though I imagine you can just get an alternative from JBL. Bose is still what I think of when I hear "acoustic cannon" however.
although it still stands that other reputable headphone makers also offer active noise cancellation and comfort at a lower price.
i've also listened to a number of bose speakers, including several home theater set ups and my overall impressions remain the same as my thoughts on their headphones: for the same price, you can get such better products; or you can get the same product at a much lower price.
edit: the one good thing i've heard about bose is their quietcomfort 3 headphones (i think it's this pair). apparently, they have completely unmatched comfort, and you can't really even feel the headphones sitting on your head. i've tried them on, and they do seem really really comfortable, and i bet they'd remain just as comfortable after an hour or two. if you're really searching for the ultimate comfort and don't mind paying a big premium for it, then this will be a good idea. just as there are many who would pay a huge premium for small perceived increases in sound quality, i think it'd be reasonable for someone to do the same when seeking more comfort.Last edit: 2012-07-12 02:56:34 |
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| RespectedPuddle July 12 2012 08:35. Posts 80 | Profile # |
On July 11 2012 10:04 decafchicken wrote:
You'll need to provide information on what kind of headphones (in ear, over ear, open/closed, etc) and what kind of sound signature you like (even, bass heavy, etc etc). If you can, try out some headphones in store if you know a place that carries sennheiser, denon, audiotechnics, beyer, grados, etc.
I am looking for over ear headphones, either open or closed, that just sound really good. I've only had a 60$ pair of Skullcandy Hesh, so I don't really know what a good sound signature is. I guess the consensus here is that Bose over ear noise cancelling are over priced, so what is the best alternative for headphones around 250-300$ with the qualities aforementioned? Thanks |
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| CorsairHero Canada. July 12 2012 14:07. Posts 1019 | Profile # |
On July 12 2012 08:35 RespectedPuddle wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 10:04 decafchicken wrote:
You'll need to provide information on what kind of headphones (in ear, over ear, open/closed, etc) and what kind of sound signature you like (even, bass heavy, etc etc). If you can, try out some headphones in store if you know a place that carries sennheiser, denon, audiotechnics, beyer, grados, etc.
I am looking for over ear headphones, either open or closed, that just sound really good. I've only had a 60$ pair of Skullcandy Hesh, so I don't really know what a good sound signature is. I guess the consensus here is that Bose over ear noise cancelling are over priced, so what is the best alternative for headphones around 250-300$ with the qualities aforementioned? Thanks
AKG K550, Denon D2000, Beyer DT880, Hifiman HE300, Sennheiser 598, AKG K701/2 |
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| ieatkids5 United States. July 12 2012 14:37. Posts 4383 | Profile Blog # |
On July 12 2012 08:35 RespectedPuddle wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 10:04 decafchicken wrote:
You'll need to provide information on what kind of headphones (in ear, over ear, open/closed, etc) and what kind of sound signature you like (even, bass heavy, etc etc). If you can, try out some headphones in store if you know a place that carries sennheiser, denon, audiotechnics, beyer, grados, etc.
I am looking for over ear headphones, either open or closed, that just sound really good. I've only had a 60$ pair of Skullcandy Hesh, so I don't really know what a good sound signature is. I guess the consensus here is that Bose over ear noise cancelling are over priced, so what is the best alternative for headphones around 250-300$ with the qualities aforementioned? Thanks
There's no 'good' sound signature, it depends on what you like. Do you like heavy bass? Or a more balanced signature? Or very prominent mids? In general, the only real 'good' thing you can get with the sound is clarity - in general, the more clear the sound is, the better, but even this is debatable. Most everything else is preference. In general, most people looking to purchase something better than stock earbuds usually prefer a sound signature with a bit of enhanced bass.
What kind of music do you usually listen to?
Where do you intend to use the headphones?
Do you really need active noise cancellation? Or can you get by with louder music and passive noise isolation (headphones block out noise only by acting as a physical thing between your ears and your environment)?
Do you need them to be portable (folds up and/or coiled cable)?
The more info you provide, the better the recommendations we can give.
edit - and how important is comfort? will you be wearing these for hours or just 15-45 minutes?Last edit: 2012-07-12 14:39:47 |
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| biology]major United States. July 12 2012 14:43. Posts 612 | Profile # |
| I use ath m50's, and the sound quality between my ipod and my desktop is very noticeable. Does anyone know how I can get the best out of my hardware?, My motherboard is not terrible, and I also have a decent video card, is there anyway to increase my audio quality?? Am I missing something, or do I actually need to get a seperate sound card. |
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| Myrmidon United States. July 12 2012 15:03. Posts 8487 | Profile Blog # |
On July 12 2012 14:43 biology]major wrote:
I use ath m50's, and the sound quality between my ipod and my desktop is very noticeable. Does anyone know how I can get the best out of my hardware?, My motherboard is not terrible, and I also have a decent video card, is there anyway to increase my audio quality?? Am I missing something, or do I actually need to get a seperate sound card.
Motherboard not being terrible (in what sense?) doesn't really guarantee anything about the sound quality. In fact, cramming more components on the board and having a higher-end graphics card could cause more problems for the audio quality. There's not much you can do about it if the onboard sound quality sucks, except use something else.
You can probably just get something cheap like a Xonar DG (DGX if you have to use PCIe). Don't bother with anything more expensive than that, at least for internal sound cards; many of them would be worse for headphones anyway, even ignoring price. |
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| Firkraag8 Sweden. July 12 2012 16:23. Posts 361 | Profile # |
Match made in heaven, loving every second of them. Had a pair of HD595's before with X-Fi card on my old computer, but this just really beats those by a wide margin, I would recommend the Asus Xonar Essence ST to anyone the built in amplifier helps alot and obviously the 598's too.
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| NeoxInfinite United Kingdom. July 13 2012 02:02. Posts 13 | Profile # |
| I mean are there a much difference between cheap and mild expensive ear muffs? |
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| RespectedPuddle July 13 2012 05:26. Posts 80 | Profile # |
On July 12 2012 14:37 ieatkids5 wrote:
What kind of music do you usually listen to?
Where do you intend to use the headphones?
Do you really need active noise cancellation? Or can you get by with louder music and passive noise isolation (headphones block out noise only by acting as a physical thing between your ears and your environment)?
Do you need them to be portable (folds up and/or coiled cable)?
The more info you provide, the better the recommendations we can give.
edit - and how important is comfort? will you be wearing these for hours or just 15-45 minutes?
- I listen to a lot of electronic/ dance, but also a lot of pop and really some of every genre, im very open minded
- I intend to use them mostly at college, as in the dorm or walking around or at the gym
- I dont need active noise cancellation, but it would be nice
- I don't really need them to be portable. The MOST important thing to me is sound quality and clarity.
-comfort is pretty important, i'll be listening while i study so probaly hours
It seems the consensus is that "sound quality" is a highly subjective notion. I don't even have enough experience to say i like 'mid' or 'highs.' Can anyone give some input on what they find attractive in a 'sound signature?'
And thanks for the reccomendations thus far, i;m looking into all of them.
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| NeoxInfinite United Kingdom. July 13 2012 08:26. Posts 13 | Profile # | |
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| JSH United States. July 13 2012 08:30. Posts 2601 | Profile Blog # |
My first pair broke in about a year?
I bought another pair, and they have been good for 2 years now |
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| ieatkids5 United States. July 13 2012 10:50. Posts 4383 | Profile Blog # |
On July 12 2012 14:43 biology]major wrote:
I use ath m50's, and the sound quality between my ipod and my desktop is very noticeable. Does anyone know how I can get the best out of my hardware?, My motherboard is not terrible, and I also have a decent video card, is there anyway to increase my audio quality?? Am I missing something, or do I actually need to get a seperate sound card.
Before you try anything else, you could see if your computer has certain settings affecting your audio quality. One of my friends was experiencing heavy muddled-up bass on his headphones that were supposed to be very balanced. Turns out he had to change some stuff in his audio settings to get the sound right (he had checked stuff like enhanced bass and some audio room correction thing).
On July 13 2012 05:26 RespectedPuddle wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 14:37 ieatkids5 wrote:
What kind of music do you usually listen to?
Where do you intend to use the headphones?
Do you really need active noise cancellation? Or can you get by with louder music and passive noise isolation (headphones block out noise only by acting as a physical thing between your ears and your environment)?
Do you need them to be portable (folds up and/or coiled cable)?
The more info you provide, the better the recommendations we can give.
edit - and how important is comfort? will you be wearing these for hours or just 15-45 minutes?
- I listen to a lot of electronic/ dance, but also a lot of pop and really some of every genre, im very open minded - I intend to use them mostly at college, as in the dorm or walking around or at the gym - I dont need active noise cancellation, but it would be nice - I don't really need them to be portable. The MOST important thing to me is sound quality and clarity. -comfort is pretty important, i'll be listening while i study so probaly hours It seems the consensus is that "sound quality" is a highly subjective notion. I don't even have enough experience to say i like 'mid' or 'highs.' Can anyone give some input on what they find attractive in a 'sound signature?' And thanks for the reccomendations thus far, i;m looking into all of them.
Best advice I can give you now is to read this article on active noise cancelling headphones:
http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/comparative-review-high-end-noise-canceling-headphones
It's also good for you because it includes a section reviewing a number of ANC headphones, including pictures and prices. If you decide to get ANC, I'd say read through the reviews thoroughly and pick one that suits your taste. It does a great job highlighting the pros and cons of each headphone. Judging from the article, I think you'll like the Bose Quiet Comfort 15 the most.
edit - the most basic thing you'll need to know about a particular headphone's sound signature is its frequency response. Not the range (like 20-20000 hertz or whatever), but how much it puts out at each frequency. For example, some headphones are considered bass-heavy, so they put out a lot more low-frequency sounds relative to middle and high frequency sounds. Personally, I prefer a sound signature that is very flat or 'balanced', meaning that the headphones put out about the same amount of each frequency (as perceived by one's ear). I listen to a lot of music that is focused on female vocals, so I don't want the bass to overpower the vocals. When I listen to dubstep though, I like to use my basshead headphones.Last edit: 2012-07-13 10:56:52 |
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| NeoxInfinite United Kingdom. July 13 2012 20:53. Posts 13 | Profile # | |
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| Nallen United Kingdom. July 13 2012 22:39. Posts 134 | Profile # |
I'm strongly considering a pair of GR10s based on reviews. Does anyone have experience with them or opinions about Grado?
Many thanks for any input  |
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| uriel- Singapore. July 14 2012 01:22. Posts 621 | Profile # |
On July 13 2012 22:39 Nallen wrote:I'm strongly considering a pair of GR10s based on reviews. Does anyone have experience with them or opinions about Grado? Many thanks for any input
I don't have the GR10s exactly, but reviews suggest it's extremely similar in signature to the Ortofon e-Q5/e-Q7s. In which case they will be excellent...but I'll suggest just going for the Ortofons instead =D |
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| Nallen United Kingdom. July 14 2012 02:44. Posts 134 | Profile # |
On July 14 2012 01:22 uriel- wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 22:39 Nallen wrote:I'm strongly considering a pair of GR10s based on reviews. Does anyone have experience with them or opinions about Grado? Many thanks for any input
I don't have the GR10s exactly, but reviews suggest it's extremely similar in signature to the Ortofon e-Q5/e-Q7s. In which case they will be excellent...but I'll suggest just going for the Ortofons instead =D
I can't find the e-Q7s, do you know if they're end of line or something? They look good by the way, thanks for the tip.Last edit: 2012-07-14 02:44:49 |
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