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| Kluey Canada. January 28 2012 08:40. Posts 1166 | Profile # |
| what's a good mouse that won't hurt your index and middle finger after one game of starcraft? something that has a really soft click button. |
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| ROOTT1 Canada. January 28 2012 08:46. Posts 5630 | Profile Blog # |
On January 28 2012 08:39 nad3r wrote:
looking forward to hearing what tt1 has to say about the g100
still waiting on it, btw hihi welcome to tl ~ and ur from iran!
i already know that the mouse is gonna suck cus everyone has told me that it jitters alot, im pretty sure logitech is gonna come out with a firmware fix for it tho so the only thing that i took into consideration when buying the mouse was its shape
i also just ordered an abyssus, should arrive in a few days(LOL damn ive been spending so much $ recently, bought a realforce board, 2x noppoo choc mini's, 2x g400's, a da, a abyssus, a g100, a g9x, a bunch of PBT caps, some custom made ABS keycaps, a filco board and a zowie ec2)Last edit: 2012-01-28 08:54:43 |
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| nad3r Iran. January 28 2012 09:17. Posts 8 | Profile # |
haha yea, long time lurker first time poster i guess, recently switched from a xai to an abyssus and im loving it(the acceleration on the xai is really noticeable after you switch). I wouldn't object to trying out other similar mice with different shapes, esp since the price tag is so low and i used logitech (mx5--) for something like 8 years before i got the xai. people also reported the abyssus had some jitter issues but only on certain pads, and was seemingly ok on hard/plastic pads and as I am a long time xray thunder pad user it was fine for me... i wonder if the g100's jitter issue is similar?
also chakeretam always good to see other persian gamers, esp ones that excel at their respective games :DLast edit: 2012-01-28 09:19:46 |
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| ROOTT1 Canada. January 28 2012 09:21. Posts 5630 | Profile Blog # |
On January 28 2012 09:17 nad3r wrote:
haha yea, long time lurker first time poster i guess, recently switched from a xai to an abyssus and im loving it(the acceleration on the xai is really noticeable after you switch). I wouldn't object to trying out other similar mice with different shapes, esp since the price tag is so low and i used logitech (mx5--) for something like 8 years before i got the xai. people also reported the abyssus had some jitter issues but only on certain pads, and was seemingly ok on hard/plastic pads and as I am a long time xray thunder pad user it was fine for me... i wonder if the g100's jitter issue is similar?
also chakeretam always good to see other persian gamers, esp ones that excel at their respective games :D
^^ ty, can u palm grip ur abyssus? how much smaller is it than the xai |
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| CluEleSs_UK United Kingdom. January 28 2012 09:27. Posts 580 | Profile Blog # |
Okay, I have a review of the logitech g9x and the logitech g5.
logitech g9x:
If you want customisability, are unsure what you want in a mouse or you play multiple games, it's a great mouse. Extremely comfortable, palm or claw compatible depending on which shell you use. As well as this, it has a huuuuuuuge DPI (which is fully adjustable over both X and Y axis [different dpis vertically and horizontally screen]). A lot of progamers use this mouse, most notably MarineKingPrime.
The biggest con, is the built in acceleration; not just software acceleration, but built into the laser. This means it can't be turned off, and for me, I chose to buy a replacement mouse because it was too annoying (a Razer Deathadder). If you currently use steeelseries product or are used to using acceleration, this mouse is great however. If you're not keen on acceleration or not sure, it's a bit expensive to "try out".
Logitech G5 (Similar to G500, but cheaper and only 2100 DPI):
A really great mouse overall. Adjustable weights are nice, but if you're a claw gripper or like a small mouse, it's probably not for you. It has a few DPI options (200, 800 and 2100 iirc). 2100 is plenty if you're used to some trashy default mouse, but perhaps if you are used to a high DPI, may not be sufficient. Regardless, this is a great mouse, and super cheap ($35ish I think?). It looks pretty too :D |
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| nad3r Iran. January 28 2012 10:00. Posts 8 | Profile # |
i can but i don't, my grip is somewhere between a standard palm grip and a finger tip grip where only my finger tips touch the mouse buttons but arent at an extreme angle. I can say that for me this is comfortable with the abyssus. as far as size goes the butt of the mice where the ss or razer logo are relatively the same height but the abyssus slopes down sharper- I went ahead and took a side by side overhead picture on my phone
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/V7IQO.jpg)
as you can see it's a bit longer and fatter. the biggest things i noticed physically from the switch were the glossy sides on the abyssus that made my hand sweat the first evening i used it and the angular shape of the button part of the mouse (im more accustomed to the smooth rounded mice so i would find my fingers playing with the edges the first few days). clicking the actual mouse buttons also feels more distinct on the abyssus and while they both use omron switches something just felt strange with the xai, it is likely because i used the xai for a year and the abyssus is brand new but i thought i should mention it as i do notice it. also the aby is significantly lighter than the xai which was a huge plus.
i use 1600 cpi generally so the 1800 cpi setting took some getting used to but nothing a cpi calculator couldnt fix in game.. Last edit: 2012-01-28 10:02:29 |
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| castled United States. January 28 2012 10:11. Posts 287 | Profile # |
On January 28 2012 09:27 CluEleSs_UK wrote:
The biggest con, is the built in acceleration; not just software acceleration, but built into the laser. This means it can't be turned off, and for me, I chose to buy a replacement mouse because it was too annoying (a Razer Deathadder). If you currently use steeelseries product or are used to using acceleration, this mouse is great however. If you're not keen on acceleration or not sure, it's a bit expensive to "try out".
There's built in acceleration in the laser?? I own a G9X and hate mouse acceleration, I have never noticed this.
I also own a Deathadder, and I don't see any acceleration difference (i.e. both mice have none when it is turned off correctly). You know you have to turn off the acceleration for the G9X through SetPoint right?
I'll also note that I really like the G9X and was surprised to read in the guide that lasers are less reliable than opticals. I was using a Deathadder on my (somewhat shiny) desk at first but it tracked unreliably, whereas the G9X tracks perfectly on every surface I've used it on. I also prefer the G9X over the deathadder because I use fingertip grip and the deathadder can be awkward for that (although it's nice for palming). |
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| nOondn January 28 2012 14:54. Posts 564 | Profile # |
On January 28 2012 10:11 castled wrote:
Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 09:27 CluEleSs_UK wrote:
The biggest con, is the built in acceleration; not just software acceleration, but built into the laser. This means it can't be turned off, and for me, I chose to buy a replacement mouse because it was too annoying (a Razer Deathadder). If you currently use steeelseries product or are used to using acceleration, this mouse is great however. If you're not keen on acceleration or not sure, it's a bit expensive to "try out".
There's built in acceleration in the laser?? I own a G9X and hate mouse acceleration, I have never noticed this. I also own a Deathadder, and I don't see any acceleration difference (i.e. both mice have none when it is turned off correctly). You know you have to turn off the acceleration for the G9X through SetPoint right? I'll also note that I really like the G9X and was surprised to read in the guide that lasers are less reliable than opticals. I was using a Deathadder on my (somewhat shiny) desk at first but it tracked unreliably, whereas the G9X tracks perfectly on every surface I've used it on. I also prefer the G9X over the deathadder because I use fingertip grip and the deathadder can be awkward for that (although it's nice for palming).
you can't turn of, it come with hardware not software. |
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| Demicore France. January 28 2012 21:41. Posts 456 | Profile # |
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| cmh United States. January 28 2012 21:52. Posts 88 | Profile # |
THe G9X also uses the same sensor as the Sensei (Avago 9500) so if your looking to avoid acceleration I would stay away from it.
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| Zurachi Canada. January 28 2012 23:19. Posts 288 | Profile Blog # |
On January 28 2012 08:46 mTwTT1 wrote:
i also just ordered an abyssus, should arrive in a few days(LOL damn ive been spending so much $ recently, bought a realforce board, 2x noppoo choc mini's, 2x g400's, a da, a abyssus, a g100, a g9x, a bunch of PBT caps, some custom made ABS keycaps, a filco board and a zowie ec2)
o_O While you're at it, you should start up a peripheral review website  TT1 Approved Gear
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| wo1fwood United States. January 29 2012 00:13. Posts 2264 | Profile Blog # |
On January 28 2012 09:21 mTwTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 09:17 nad3r wrote:
haha yea, long time lurker first time poster i guess, recently switched from a xai to an abyssus and im loving it(the acceleration on the xai is really noticeable after you switch). I wouldn't object to trying out other similar mice with different shapes, esp since the price tag is so low and i used logitech (mx5--) for something like 8 years before i got the xai. people also reported the abyssus had some jitter issues but only on certain pads, and was seemingly ok on hard/plastic pads and as I am a long time xray thunder pad user it was fine for me... i wonder if the g100's jitter issue is similar?
also chakeretam always good to see other persian gamers, esp ones that excel at their respective games :D
^^ ty, can u palm grip ur abyssus? how much smaller is it than the xai
Xai: 125.5×68×38.7
Abyssus: 115×63×40
On January 28 2012 10:11 castled wrote:
Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 09:27 CluEleSs_UK wrote:
The biggest con, is the built in acceleration; not just software acceleration, but built into the laser. This means it can't be turned off, and for me, I chose to buy a replacement mouse because it was too annoying (a Razer Deathadder). If you currently use steeelseries product or are used to using acceleration, this mouse is great however. If you're not keen on acceleration or not sure, it's a bit expensive to "try out".
There's built in acceleration in the laser?? I own a G9X and hate mouse acceleration, I have never noticed this. I also own a Deathadder, and I don't see any acceleration difference (i.e. both mice have none when it is turned off correctly). You know you have to turn off the acceleration for the G9X through SetPoint right? I'll also note that I really like the G9X and was surprised to read in the guide that lasers are less reliable than opticals. I was using a Deathadder on my (somewhat shiny) desk at first but it tracked unreliably, whereas the G9X tracks perfectly on every surface I've used it on. I also prefer the G9X over the deathadder because I use fingertip grip and the deathadder can be awkward for that (although it's nice for palming).
Last edit: 2012-01-29 00:13:51 |
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| JKM Denmark. January 29 2012 05:39. Posts 367 | Profile # |
Not sure if this is the right thread for this, but I'm having some problems with my mouse (Logitech G500).
Sometimes I have short bursts of mouse-lag in SC2, where I lose any control over the cursor for ½-3 seconds after which it returns to normal (trying to enact whatever movements, selections etc. I made). I changed to this mouse recently and it wasnt a problem with my old mouse (Logitech mx518). Any ideas what the cause could be?
PS. Sorry I cant describe the problem in greater detail, but I cant force it to happen and when it happens im usually busy in the game :O. |
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| Depetrify January 29 2012 05:43. Posts 871 | Profile Blog # |
| ok... best non razer mouse for sc2 without acceleration? |
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| poopman Canada. January 29 2012 06:07. Posts 83 | Profile # |
On January 29 2012 05:43 Depetrify wrote:
ok... best non razer mouse for sc2 without acceleration?
mx518
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| SixSongs Poland. January 29 2012 06:14. Posts 1438 | Profile Blog # |
You should post Logitech G3, the best mouse I've ever had. Better than any razer, or microsoft.
![[image loading]](http://static.productreview.com.au/pr.products/74383_logitech_g3_laser.jpg) |
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| wo1fwood United States. January 29 2012 09:57. Posts 2264 | Profile Blog # |
I would actually get the the G400 instead. The MX518 (it's predecessor) was a great mouse, and now that the prediction/angle snapping issue has been fixed in the G400, it performs as well as the Deathadder (according to Skylit on OCN) with a few minor differences (lower perfect control rate, higher malfunction rate, low LOD).
On 1.19.12 CPate (product manager for the G400) wrote: Angle snapping was removed as of PID LZ13333. Lower PIDs have angle snapping.
If you get the G400, just make sure you get one with a part number over LZ13333.
Also, I just re-tooled the visual data sheet I've been working on. I've attached the updated one. Crap, I always am misspelling things, or not cleaning it up lol. Another update (see newer post)
Mice Added: SS Kinzu V2, SS Kana, Mionix Naos 5000, Zowie AM, Zowie EC1+2Last edit: 2012-01-30 00:05:22 |
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| Depetrify January 29 2012 10:58. Posts 871 | Profile Blog # |
On January 29 2012 09:57 wo1fwood wrote:I would actually get the the G400 instead. The MX518 (it's predecessor) was a great mouse, and now that the prediction/angle snapping issue has been fixed in the G400, it performs as well as the Deathadder (according to Skylit on OCN) with a few minor differences (lower perfect control rate, higher malfunction rate, low LOD).
Show nested quote +On 1.19.12 CPate (product manager for the G400) wrote: Angle snapping was removed as of PID LZ13333. Lower PIDs have angle snapping.
If you get the G400, just make sure you get one with a part number over LZ13333. Also, I just re-tooled the visual data sheet I've been working on. I've attached the updated one. Mice Added: SS Kinzu V2, SS Kana, Mionix Naos 5000, Zowie AM, Zowie EC1+2
That fact that its so cheap makes me feel like its worse than mots of the other mouses in this thread o,.o |
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