The Ultimate Mouse Thread

I wouldn't worry about price, but rather look at the build quality and performance. Coming from experience, Logitech has always had very good build quality, there's a reason why some people are still using their MX518 or G1s even today. Also, a lot of 'gaming' mice are overpriced for the performance they give. For instance, allow me to quote iNkind from ESReality about the Microsoft WMO 1.1a:

The mouse that won, ESWC 2005, CPL Winter 2005, WSVG Dreamhack, Intel Summer Championship, WSVG UK, WSVG Grand Finals, WCG 2006, KODE5, Quakecon 2006.....

You can buy this mouse on Newegg for ~$12 USD, and it will outperform a lot of current mice that are in upwards of $35-65 more than the WMO.

TheToast United States. January 29 2012 11:40. Posts 4804

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On January 29 2012 09:57 wo1fwood wrote:

Also, I just re-tooled the visual data sheet I've been working on. I've attached the updated one.

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Mice Added: SS Kinzu V2, SS Kana, Mionix Naos 5000, Zowie AM, Zowie EC1+2

You sir, are awesome.

On January 29 2012 06:14 SixSongs wrote:
You should post Logitech G3, the best mouse I've ever had. Better than any razer, or microsoft.

Logitech G3 is discontinued, and as a rule I'm not adding discontinued mice to the list. While I realize you could probably find one on ebay, if I start adding every good mouse that's every been made the list is going to get absurdly long. The discontinued ones were put on the list before they were discontinued (not sure why I put the mx518 on the list...) so I have since just marked them as such as opposed to just deleting them. At some point I will clear them off or maybe add an additional section.

On January 29 2012 05:43 Depetrify wrote:
ok... best non razer mouse for sc2 without acceleration?

There is no such thing as a "best mouse". For playing an RTS you will want a mouse with a higher DPI/CPI (i.e. probably not an MS Intellimouse) that glides well. Everything else beyond that is totally dependent on you. Everyone has different shaped hands and grips their mouse differently. Someone with smaller hands might find the SS Kinzu makes a good palm grip mouse, someone with bigger hands likely would not. Figure out what grip style you prefer (see the Razer Ergonomics guide linked in the OP) and what size mouse you prefer (see wo1fwood's guide a few posts up).

On January 28 2012 08:46 mTwTT1 wrote:

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still waiting on it, btw hihi welcome to tl ~ and ur from iran!
i already know that the mouse is gonna suck cus everyone has told me that it jitters alot, im pretty sure logitech is gonna come out with a firmware fix for it tho so the only thing that i took into consideration when buying the mouse was its shape

i also just ordered an abyssus, should arrive in a few days(LOL damn ive been spending so much $ recently, bought a realforce board, 2x noppoo choc mini's, 2x g400's, a da, a abyssus, a g100, a g9x, a bunch of PBT caps, some custom made ABS keycaps, a filco board and a zowie ec2)

Please let us know what your thoughts are on these when you get them, especially on the construction quality of the abyssus; that's something I've heard a lot of complaints about. I think it would be very helpful for a lot of people to hear the opinions of someone who literally uses a gaming mouse in their job

On January 28 2012 05:41 wo1fwood wrote:
I would actually suggest if you liked the size of the M100 and have access to the Asia market (or ebay :D) to take a look at the Logitech G100. It's only sold in Asia/Korea atm, but it would be amazing if they decided to start shipping to EU or AM. It seems that there are some slight jitter issues, but that seems to be the only issue so far.

Skylit's OCN thread

Logitech G100 on eBay

Edit: so the G100 is basically the same size as the mx300 and G1 at 115x60x33mm.

LOGITECH PLEASE THAT HERE NOW!!!! Looks so good. No one is really making a good ambidextrous mouse without acceleration or construction issues (abyssus) right now. I would love to give that thing a try. Looks like there was a seller on Amazon but they are unsurprisingly sold out.

On January 29 2012 05:39 JKM wrote:
Not sure if this is the right thread for this, but I'm having some problems with my mouse (Logitech G500).

Sometimes I have short bursts of mouse-lag in SC2, where I lose any control over the cursor for ½-3 seconds after which it returns to normal (trying to enact whatever movements, selections etc. I made). I changed to this mouse recently and it wasnt a problem with my old mouse (Logitech mx518). Any ideas what the cause could be?

PS. Sorry I cant describe the problem in greater detail, but I cant force it to happen and when it happens im usually busy in the game :O.

I could be an issue with falty mouse hardware, could also be an issue with Windows, or an issue with drivers. Are you using Logitech's latest drivers or the base Windows drivers?

I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.

Depetrify January 29 2012 12:45. Posts 872

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On January 29 2012 11:23 wo1fwood wrote:

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I wouldn't worry about price, but rather look at the build quality and performance. Coming from experience, Logitech has always had very good build quality, there's a reason why some people are still using their MX518 or G1s even today. Also, a lot of 'gaming' mice are overpriced for the performance they give. For instance, allow me to quote iNkind from ESReality about the Microsoft WMO 1.1a:

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You can buy this mouse on Newegg for ~$12 USD, and it will outperform a lot of current mice that are in upwards of $35-65 more than the WMO.

So you're saying G400 is better than all other Logitech mouses? Most of them are more expensive.. G5..

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/mice/devices/gaming-mouse-g500

What are the flaws with that mouse? Does it have acceleration built in?

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Dubsys Australia. January 29 2012 13:21. Posts 120

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Here's a quick review of 90% of the mice i've owned over the years

Microsoft Intellimouse 3.0 - 10/10
Really, the best mouse i have ever owned. I'm not sure why i didn't just replace it with another one. I've owned it for 3 years and it hasn't let me down at all, it's sturdy and it tracks amazingly on every surface I've put it on.

got replacement feet after a year from puretrak and it felt even nicer than when i first bought it.

Logitech G5 - 4/10
Left click broke after 6 months. i found that tracking was very sensitive to hair. took me a long time to get used to using it.

Logitech G500 - 6/10
Tracks better than the G5, seems to have some form of forced correction. clicks feel sturdy. used it for about a week before selling it for $20 to a friend.

Note: i never used drivers for Logitech mice because it felt as if they used too much memory and were fairly hard to deal with.

Razer/Microsoft Habu - 4/10
it felt amazing like the ie 3.0, it tracked well and it worked well but it broke again after 6 months. this time the cable seemed to have broken at the connection from the mouse to the usb cable. the left click also sometimes double clicked.

Razer Diamondback - 8/10
The first gaming mouse i ever purchased. it felt great, the feet glided on almost any surface, the laser tracked well and didn't seem to have any form of correction, the drivers worked fairly easily. replaced it because i broke it at a LAN via rage.

Steelseries Sensei - 9/10
Doesn't feel as amazing as the ie 3.0 ever did. i have it set at 800cpi/1000hz and exactlift at 7% every other setting as off.

It tracks perfectly on my razer mantis control (which I've had for every mouse I've owned) the clicks feel solid, abeit loud. and the ambidextrous design should be good for anybody looking for a decent mouse. I've hit the CPI change button once or twice on accident but it's easy to fix because you don't need to flip your mouse and press a button or anything crazy like that.

also, PINK LED'S and it's incredibly aesthetically pleasing

conclusion:
buy an ie 3.0
it's great unless you're gaming at 2560×1600 or something, then get a mouse with a higher dpi/cpi.

Patience is bitter, but it bears sweet fruit.

wo1fwood United States. January 29 2012 14:02. Posts 2272

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On January 29 2012 12:45 Depetrify wrote:

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So you're saying G400 is better than all other Logitech mouses? Most of them are more expensive.. G5..

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/mice/devices/gaming-mouse-g500

What are the flaws with that mouse? Does it have acceleration built in?

Again, it's dangerous to judge a mouse by it's price. The Mamba while being stupidly expensive, I'll bet it doesn't perform nearly as well as the Deathadder or the Abyssus which are less than half the price.

I wouldn't exactly say that the G400 is the best per se, the G9x for example is a pretty decent mouse from what I understand, but it is a much different shape and more suitable for those with either smaller hands or claw/fingertip users. Same would be the case with the G1(drastically different shape/size). As for the G500, it uses the Avago 9500 and has some noticeable +/- accel issues while the 3080E in the G400 has perfect PtP (point to point) tracking. The G500 is also going to be heavier than the G400 by about 20g, but it also has more buttons and weight tuning and a higher max cpi. Another thing would be the sensor position on the G500 is much further forward than then G400 (centered is best), but that may be too nitpicky for some. Before the very recent update, the G500 had the ability to turn off prediction, but the latest builds of the G400 have fixed that according to the Logitech rep.

Anyway a lot of what this comes down to is preference (features, grip, what games you play), and on paper I'd give the definite edge to the G400, but in the end it's your decision (for example, the side buttons on the G500 would annoy me to no end).

nad3r Iran. January 29 2012 14:27. Posts 8

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On January 29 2012 11:40 TheToast wrote:
Please let us know what your thoughts are on these when you get them, especially on the construction quality of the abyssus; that's something I've heard a lot of complaints about.

im curious what construction issues you are referring too, seems like a pretty solid mouse to me...

im also curious if anyone has any thoughts/experience with the zowie am mouse

Kluey Canada. January 29 2012 14:56. Posts 1167

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Deathadder or Abyssus? I really like the forward/back buttons on the side as I am use to them but many people have recommended the Abyssus.

sawedust United States. January 29 2012 19:21. Posts 506

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On January 29 2012 14:56 Kluey wrote:
Deathadder or Abyssus? I really like the forward/back buttons on the side as I am use to them but many people have recommended the Abyssus.

Depends on your grip. Are you a palm or a fingertip user? If you're a palm, DeathAdder. If you're a fingertip, you might want to look at the Abyssus.

stickyhands January 29 2012 19:31. Posts 169

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On January 29 2012 06:14 SixSongs wrote:
You should post Logitech G3, the best mouse I've ever had. Better than any razer, or microsoft.
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héhé, i still have one bro
no accel, no prediction, but the g3 dont track perfectly on all mousepad, i have sometimes problems with my Qpad CT but its very rare.

You can still find it on ebay, or on the "korean ebay" (forgot the name) some vendor ship internationally.

Kerwin United States. January 29 2012 22:55. Posts 219

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I had a few questions about my mouse (the Razor Naga). I've had the mouse for awhile because back in the day I used to play WoW.

My first question is about the legitmacy of this mouse in competitive play. I've never seen a progamer with this mouse, and was wondering if it would be prevented from competitive play at all. Since I've played with this mouse for so long, I've gotten accustomed to binding certain control groups with the number pad on the side and I'm starting to think that this is developing bad mechanics. I don't use any macros with the buttons, just use them as 1-0 for control groups. If this mouse is legit (or if using the number pad on the sides is) then I imagine getting better at mechanics binding groups this way is fine (because I'll always be able to use my own mouse), but just curious.

I also had a question about the claw vs fingertip grip. The Naga pretty much demands a claw grip because your thumb has to be pretty far up the left side to hit the thumb buttons. My question is if the claw grip is worse for my carpal tunnel than a fingertip grip would be. My carpal tunnel isn't super bad, it kinda comes and goes.

Thanks for anyone taking a look at this and assuaging my OCD thoughts about the mouse I use.

blueslobster Germany. January 29 2012 23:15. Posts 271

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On January 28 2012 18:47 Depetrify wrote:
Since there is still no way to turn off the Sensei's acceleration, would the G9x be the next best thing for SC2? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104261

The Sensei has the best implementation of the 9500 yet. According to Skylit from Overclock.net (the expert on mice), the acceleration starts to kick in at movements with a speed of around 30-40 IPS (0,8-1,2 m/s). According to cmh, the acceleration can get lowered (down to 1-3 %), when using a good mouse pad (like the Artisan Hayate).
If you want to find out if you move your mouse fast enough, to trigger the acceleration, try this:
Download Enotus mouse test (no need to install, just run it), move your mouse 10 cm while pressing down a button and click on "Start" in the tab Speed and start playing; check the "Max speed" after playing.).

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Dephy Lithuania. January 29 2012 23:50. Posts 163

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I'm thinking of streaming, my monitor is set at 1920-1080 resolution, and i use fullscreen windowed mode on sc2, the problem i have is that my pc is not powerful enought to stream sc2 on this resolution, so im thinking of lowering resolution to 720p instead of 1080p, and i wanted to ask if i lower resolution does my mouse speed increase, can i set it to be same as in 1080p? i have razer abyssus set on 6/11 thicks on windows, and 3500dpi on mouse and 3,5/10 on razer drivers software.

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wo1fwood United States. January 30 2012 00:20. Posts 2272

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Artist Resources Visual | Performance | Literary Artist Directory: 0-9 | A-E | F-J | K-O | P-T | U-Z

TeamLiquid Artist Directory

Welcome. With all of the various individuals, communities, and companies that frequent TeamLiquid.net I felt that it was past time that we had a dedicated thread to the many artists who hang out here, and contribute to the growth of this and larger communities on a regular basis. Wherever these contributions are seen, this thread is a place to catalogue the pieces we've created, show our styles, choices and capabilities, and in the hope to create a stronger collective where all artists on TL can discuss, collaborate, and think critically about our careers and our work.

This thread has essentially four purposes. The first is as a directory and catalogue of art from the contributing artists. The second is to help better connect the these artists better with each other, but also with the community at large through their medium. The third purpose is to give artists a centralized space from which they can use find tools and items to create and develop their work better. The fourth is an attempt to foster a stronger community of artists and help spur critical discussions, critiques, or whathaveyou. Regarding the third purpose, the second half of this first post is entirely dedicated to listing a great many tools that we as creators have available to use, objects, textures, effects, equipment, and other elements, or resources, or knowledge in order to create better, more informed, and more robust content.

Further down your will find the directory of artists who are 'affiliated' with this goal or project, which also serves partly as a portfolio of the things that each artist has done here on teamliquid.net and abroad. This project aims to include all walks of artist, whether you are simply a hobbyist, someone who likes to toy around with things, or an aspiring or current professional in your respective fields.

For the potential artist, how does this work exactly? Anyone who would like to be a part of this project need only submit a portfolio of things they've done (if a performer it is understood that this may be more difficult, or not possible), and choose 4-6 pieces that will be 'featured', used as a reference of what your stylistic choices are, how capable you are, and the like (representative works or performances, if applicable). Accompanying this will be a small writeup stating what kind of artist you are, and what you do (try to stay around ~300 characters. Basically, tell us what you do in as few words as is necessary). Here’s an example template:

Artist Statement

The rest of your work will be, if you like, tagged and linked so that we can achieve a balance between building a repository of TL artwork while also being able to feature a good amount of content in this thread as well (visual artists for obvious reasons necessitate this separated format due to our unique image url limit on TL).

This is an ongoing project and nothing is set in stone, so I'll be trying to tweak it here and there to best feature what our amazing community does. If you have ideas or information/assets that you use that you feel should be included please feel free to contribute, especially in the lit section as I am very much lacking in how to approach this area.

Please remember that if you use pieces done by an artist to please credit them for their work.

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What you will find below is a wealth of useful assets, images, links, and software or tools commonly used by many people here, all found in an easily accessible location. It should be noted that in finding media assets like for example textures, Google is your friend. Also, many of the digital assets listed here should be read as there are quite a number of great resources to help out with issues of formatting, typography, and other important considerations.

Software
Adobe Photoshop • The Industry standard. An expensive but very powerful pixel-based graphic editing program.
Corel Painter • Another powerful pixel-based editor. The closest competition for Adobe Photoshop.
Adobe Illustrator • Another industry standard. Like Photoshop it is a powerful vector-based graphic editing program.
Corel Draw • Similarly to Illutrator, Draw is a vector-based graphic editor from Corel.
Adobe InDesign • Another powerful tool from Adobe Stystems. This program shares many of the same features of the previous two, but is quite well suited to magazine, brochure, and newspaper projects (and now tablet applications).
GIMP • A free, pixel-based editor for Windows or Apple systems.
Inkscape • An open source vector-based editing program. Also free.
Pixelmator • Another pixel-based editor for Apple users. Not free, but very cheap.
png crush • A png file size optimizer. Not really necessary for most people but if you are mindful of bandwidth and server costs, you may want to look into this program.
Processing • A java based environment that is used for generative design.
Open Frameworks • Another generative design environment similar to processing. Coded in C++, so it is far more powerful, though the learning curve is a bit steeper.

Media and Digital Assets
Liquipedia Assets: (Please read the following if you intend to use LP content)
LP1 Special:NewFiles, LP2 Special:NewFiles, Dota2 Special:NewFiles
TeamLiquid.net Assets:
SC2 LR Resources, BW Last Minute LR Resources, BBCode on TeamLiquid.net, Of EPS-ports and Graphics
Other External Assets/Resources
(c) 0-255
(w) Abduzeedo
(w) But Does it Float
(w) Creative Applications
(f) Dafont
(w) Daily Tekk Top 200
(f) Font Squirrel
(w) Google
(f) Google Webfonts
(c) Kuler
(f) Lost Type
(f) Lowing Heritage Foundation
(f) Proggy Fonts
(b) Shaddy Concept Art
(f) The League of Movable Type
(i) The Noun Project
(w) Thinking with Type
(w) Triangulation Blog
(w) Web Design Ledger
(f) What the Font

key: f - font, i - icon, b - brushes, c - color, w - informational websites

http://color.method.ac/
https://sketchfab.com/
http://www2.hawaii.edu/~ailed/125/resources/PickingTypefaces.pdf
http://www.behance.net/Gallery/Periodic-Table-of-Typefaces/193759

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Similarly to the section above, this section is dedicated to many useful resources for the performing artist. Whether it be performance methods, theoretical or historical resources, or simply helpful software or other tools that will be useful, the list here will hope to provide a number of useful avenues. Of course being a performance based art, information and tools are slightly different than the previous section.

Music/Audio
Notation Programs
Sibelius
Finale
Smart Score
Notion
Mozart

Various Digital Audio Workstations
ProTools
Digital performer
Cubase
Sonar
Logic
Abelton Live
Reason
Audacity
Garage Band

MAX/MSP
Supercollider

Mixers
Mixxx
Virtual DJ

Audio Synthesis
Due to the sheer number of items that can be useful I have simply included a list from the KVR forums on what they consider to be the top 50 used programs. It should be noted that some very powerful audio synthesis tools such as MachFive are not on this list, but it does have a number of very standard effects or instruments (Absynth, Kontakt, Massive). I have included less popular, but still very useful programs.
KVR Top 50
Paul Stretch

Hardware/Instruments/Equipment
Similarly, there are just too many places where quality equipment can be purchased, however Sweetwater.com is a place that I have a lot of personal experience and they offer a wide range of equipment and their service is simply phenomenal.
Sweetwater

Information/Forums
KVR Forum
MusicTheory.net
Aspiring DJ Guide

Books
Because Information on the web is only so good, and textbooks are the backbone of acquiring complete knowledge in this arena. All of the following texts are either the leading sources, or historically important texts.
Harmony and Voice Leading Aldwell, Shachter, and Cadwallader
The Complete Musician Steven Laitz
A Practical Approach to 16th Century Counterpoint Robert Gauldin
A Practical Approach to 18th Century Counterpoint Robert Gauldin
Counterpoint Kent Kennan
Gradus ad Parnassum Johan Joseph Fux, Trans. Alfred Mann
A History of Western Music Burkholder, Palisca, Grout
Oxford Music Online
Study of Orchestration Samuel Adler
Principles of Orchestration Rimsky-Korsakov
Theory of Harmony Arnold Schoenberg
The Rest is Noise Alex Ross
Introduction to Post-Tonal Analysis Joseph Straus
Introduction to Shenkerian Analysis Alan Forte

Theater

Dance
ABT Library

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Literary Art.....ideas anyone? I'm more than a little out of my element on this one for techniques, tools and resources.

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alffla
alterdclone
disciple
Detonate
dionocenies

Coagulation
Existor
CabelD

Artist Directory: F-J
fanta[Rn]
fishuu
funkie
HawaiianPig
jhNz

Glider

Artist Directory: K-O
kiet
KizZBG
Meko
olof

insidiA
NemesysTV
Kenny_oro

Artist Directory: P-T
pachi
pathy
Raihn
RuN
Sekhmet
shiroiusagi
Sigrun
SilverskY
Stigma-
suffeli

Artist Directory: U-Z
vinn
Xeofreestyler
ZerCartain
zXk3

themusic246
xpaperclip
whereismymind
wo1fwood

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Vigor Canada. January 31 2012 01:44. Posts 73

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Still dealing with my XAI issue was curious if anyone on TL has experienced it, i kno it has the bios issues with certain mobo's but over all i dotn care about just disconnecting to get it to work now for some reason when i connect it nothing on the mouse works other then the LCD screen and windows 7 detects as a steel series gaming device nothing the cursor is not responsive and no buttons respond with the computer

(((((((((((( but im able to use the buttons to navigate the LCD screen so like the buttons arent dead or anything.

TheToast United States. January 31 2012 01:50. Posts 4804

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On January 31 2012 01:44 Vigor wrote:
Still dealing with my XAI issue was curious if anyone on TL has experienced it, i kno it has the bios issues with certain mobo's but over all i dotn care about just disconnecting to get it to work now for some reason when i connect it nothing on the mouse works other then the LCD screen and windows 7 detects as a steel series gaming device nothing the cursor is not responsive and no buttons respond with the computer

(((((((((((( but im able to use the buttons to navigate the LCD screen so like the buttons arent dead or anything.

I'm not sure I understand. Maybe we can try this again with actual sentences? It sounds like a driver issue to me, but could just as easily be a faulty/dead mouse.

@wo1fwood that looks so awesome. Editing in now!

I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.

Vigor Canada. January 31 2012 02:01. Posts 73

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sorry been up for 24hours

okay so On this current PC im running windows 7 64bit, i plug in the xai and it doesnt do the usual "installing drivers" etc for the mouse, and nothing works with the mouse no movements etc, no buttons work, now i just used it on my brothers pc and i connected the xai and it started dling the drivers etc for the computer but his is a windows vista OS

-edit and yes ive downloaded the drivers manually trouble shooting almost everything on this mouse, that steelseries's FAQ answers and things ive found on google, now outta ideas specially after i plugged into my brothers comp and it instantly worked

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blueslobster Germany. January 31 2012 03:11. Posts 271

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On January 31 2012 02:01 Vigor wrote:
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-edit and yes ive downloaded the drivers manually trouble shooting almost everything on this mouse, that steelseries's FAQ answers and things ive found on google, now outta ideas specially after i plugged into my brothers comp and it instantly worked

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This won't help you, but many Xai users do experience problems like your's. The Xai has many, many features, which make it prone to errors ...

aka IPS.Blue, IPS.Diablo2

PHOEIVIX January 31 2012 03:26. Posts 2

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Hey I saw NesTea using 7/11 in mouse sensitivity while on stream in the IM house. Is this some sort of secret or am I wrong in thinking the thread and guide on liquipedia say that 7/11 is bad?

Video of Stream

skip to 18:40

Here's a screencap of him using the settings
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Is it a secret that only IM know?
Is it something to do with Korean computers?
Is it something to do with Streaming?
Yes i'm new to sc2. I just got a new mouse and was looking up some settings to try out to see how they feel for me.

I felt like making a new thread for this because there's a lot of information in my post but after reading the guidelines I posted here. Sorry for the length.

wo1fwood United States. January 31 2012 06:05. Posts 2272

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On January 31 2012 03:26 PHOEIVIX wrote:

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http://www.overclock.net/t/173255/cs-s-mouse-optimization-guide, read sections 1.2 and 1.3 for a good description of the problem and why anything other than 6/11 introduces tracking inaccuracies. We also don't know what Nestea is doing with Setpoint (is he bypassing it, has he messed with the settings, is it even installed), and that may be a contributing factor. My guess is that he only has 1000cpi to work with (korean G1) and likely needs ~1200cpi to feel more comfortable.

Vigor: I'm still confused, so you plugged it into another PC and it worked (as in you moved it around)? You may want to try to go to device manager and delete the usb mouse driver in there (HID compliant device or the like), and then try to re-scan for changes to see if windows registers the mouse. Also, I just recently overclocked my USB polling rate incorrectly for an older mouse, which rendered the USB port inoperable (fixed that by the same device manager thing).

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