| Mr. Wiggles Canada. April 15 2012 04:17. Posts 4685 | Profile Blog # |
On April 15 2012 00:02 Ace wrote:
next normal, invite game: Bang Bang Mafia 2
I'll also probably change it from the original BB Mafia to make it a Nightless game with deadlines, Day/Night with deadlines, or Day/Night with first kill ends the day like the original. Really depends on the Town PRs that I put in.
For some reason when you said Bang Bang, I thought of Guts and Glory and was wondering if Coag would be invited.  |
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 Ver United States. April 15 2012 13:56. Posts 1881 | Profile # |
On April 15 2012 00:02 Ace wrote:
next normal, invite game: Bang Bang Mafia 2
I'll also probably change it from the original BB Mafia to make it a Nightless game with deadlines, Day/Night with deadlines, or Day/Night with first kill ends the day like the original. Really depends on the Town PRs that I put in.
Should add nukes imo. |
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| GreYMisT United States. April 15 2012 13:58. Posts 4667 | Profile Blog # |
On April 15 2012 13:56 Ver wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 15 2012 00:02 Ace wrote:
next normal, invite game: Bang Bang Mafia 2
I'll also probably change it from the original BB Mafia to make it a Nightless game with deadlines, Day/Night with deadlines, or Day/Night with first kill ends the day like the original. Really depends on the Town PRs that I put in.
Should add nukes imo.
and that Russian roulette gun you invented |
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Radfield  Canada. April 16 2012 02:03. Posts 2680 | Profile # |
On April 15 2012 00:02 Ace wrote:
next normal, invite game: Bang Bang Mafia 2
I'll also probably change it from the original BB Mafia to make it a Nightless game with deadlines, Day/Night with deadlines, or Day/Night with first kill ends the day like the original. Really depends on the Town PRs that I put in.
Is the Bang Bang setup really considered 'normal'? |
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| MidnightGladius China. April 16 2012 04:12. Posts 848 | Profile Blog # |
| I would like an opportunity to cohost. Is this the right thread in which to indicate my interest? |
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| Toadesstern Germany. April 16 2012 04:38. Posts 6103 | Profile # |
| Yeah I'm also still looking for an opportunity to cohost again. |
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| Caller Poland. April 16 2012 05:30. Posts 7265 | Profile Blog # |
| i'm taking cohosts for my game, meaning you'll likely be running the whole game while i afk. pm me if interested |
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| DoctorHelvetica United States. April 16 2012 17:29. Posts 13955 | Profile Blog # |
I'd like to go down for another themed after the last one in the Q. I will need 2 cohosts for it.
My concept is tri-town mafia. This is how it would work.
You have three towns infested with scum. Each town has its own QT. A complete day cycle has three 24 hour phases (morning/afternoon/evening). Each town nominates someone to be lynched during the morning in their QT. Towns will have like a 9/2 town:scum ratio or maybe 8/2. It could become much smaller than that if needed.
In the main thread during the afternoon/evening, the mod announces all the lynch nominees from each town and the towns as a whole must vote which one to get rid of. All scum can communicate and know who each other are. IF town wins 2/3 towns, town as a whole wins. If mafia win 2/3 towns, mafia as a whole wins. |
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| Ace United States. April 17 2012 02:23. Posts 13508 | Profile Blog # |
On April 16 2012 02:03 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 15 2012 00:02 Ace wrote:
next normal, invite game: Bang Bang Mafia 2
I'll also probably change it from the original BB Mafia to make it a Nightless game with deadlines, Day/Night with deadlines, or Day/Night with first kill ends the day like the original. Really depends on the Town PRs that I put in.
Is the Bang Bang setup really considered 'normal'?
What is considered normal now? It has mostly standard roles. The No-Lynch mass day kill mechanic may be the only thing not "normal" but it isn't a theme game to me either. |
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| gonzaw Uruguay. April 17 2012 03:56. Posts 3087 | Profile # |
On April 16 2012 17:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I'd like to go down for another themed after the last one in the Q. I will need 2 cohosts for it.
My concept is tri-town mafia. This is how it would work.
You have three towns infested with scum. Each town has its own QT. A complete day cycle has three 24 hour phases (morning/afternoon/evening). Each town nominates someone to be lynched during the morning in their QT. Towns will have like a 9/2 town:scum ratio or maybe 8/2. It could become much smaller than that if needed.
In the main thread during the afternoon/evening, the mod announces all the lynch nominees from each town and the towns as a whole must vote which one to get rid of. All scum can communicate and know who each other are. IF town wins 2/3 towns, town as a whole wins. If mafia win 2/3 towns, mafia as a whole wins.
What happens if for instance, in the 1st town mafia already won but they exist with other townies? (for instance, 2v2, 2 scum and 2 town, but mafia wins).
If the other 2 towns haven't finished their "games" yet, what do they do? Does their game continue as well? Do they nominate candidates, or can they still talk in the "main" thread? Can the townies still alive in that "town" out the other scum to the "main" thread? Or is it pointless since they can't elect them for a lynch?
Also, would there be vigs/DTs that can act on other "towns"?
Other than that it sounds cool. |
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| Forumite Sweden. April 17 2012 18:56. Posts 2931 | Profile # |
On April 17 2012 02:23 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 16 2012 02:03 Radfield wrote:
On April 15 2012 00:02 Ace wrote:
next normal, invite game: Bang Bang Mafia 2
I'll also probably change it from the original BB Mafia to make it a Nightless game with deadlines, Day/Night with deadlines, or Day/Night with first kill ends the day like the original. Really depends on the Town PRs that I put in.
Is the Bang Bang setup really considered 'normal'?
What is considered normal now? It has mostly standard roles. The No-Lynch mass day kill mechanic may be the only thing not "normal" but it isn't a theme game to me either.
I´d say that sounds like a themed game. Normal games are supposed to only include standard blues, no extra rules and no weird mechanics, just day and night and the most popular roles. If it has anything else, like non-standard roles and the different day/night+lynch mechanics that you mentioned, then sign it up as a themed game.
It´s been discussed that normal games are rarely normal here, and I don´t like that. If you sign up for a normal game, then you should be able to play almost without reading the OP, and identify every aspect of the different roles simply by their name. |
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| DoctorHelvetica United States. April 17 2012 19:04. Posts 13955 | Profile Blog # |
On April 17 2012 03:56 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 16 2012 17:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I'd like to go down for another themed after the last one in the Q. I will need 2 cohosts for it.
My concept is tri-town mafia. This is how it would work.
You have three towns infested with scum. Each town has its own QT. A complete day cycle has three 24 hour phases (morning/afternoon/evening). Each town nominates someone to be lynched during the morning in their QT. Towns will have like a 9/2 town:scum ratio or maybe 8/2. It could become much smaller than that if needed.
In the main thread during the afternoon/evening, the mod announces all the lynch nominees from each town and the towns as a whole must vote which one to get rid of. All scum can communicate and know who each other are. IF town wins 2/3 towns, town as a whole wins. If mafia win 2/3 towns, mafia as a whole wins.
What happens if for instance, in the 1st town mafia already won but they exist with other townies? (for instance, 2v2, 2 scum and 2 town, but mafia wins). If the other 2 towns haven't finished their "games" yet, what do they do? Does their game continue as well? Do they nominate candidates, or can they still talk in the "main" thread? Can the townies still alive in that "town" out the other scum to the "main" thread? Or is it pointless since they can't elect them for a lynch? Also, would there be vigs/DTs that can act on other "towns"? Other than that it sounds cool.
Those mafia/town would get taken out of the game in that case I suppose. They'd just have to wait for their scumbuddies to win another one to take the whole game. |
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| Ace United States. April 17 2012 19:33. Posts 13508 | Profile Blog # |
On April 17 2012 18:56 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 02:23 Ace wrote:
On April 16 2012 02:03 Radfield wrote:
On April 15 2012 00:02 Ace wrote:
next normal, invite game: Bang Bang Mafia 2
I'll also probably change it from the original BB Mafia to make it a Nightless game with deadlines, Day/Night with deadlines, or Day/Night with first kill ends the day like the original. Really depends on the Town PRs that I put in.
Is the Bang Bang setup really considered 'normal'?
What is considered normal now? It has mostly standard roles. The No-Lynch mass day kill mechanic may be the only thing not "normal" but it isn't a theme game to me either.
I´d say that sounds like a themed game. Normal games are supposed to only include standard blues, no extra rules and no weird mechanics, just day and night and the most popular roles. If it has anything else, like non-standard roles and the different day/night+lynch mechanics that you mentioned, then sign it up as a themed game. It´s been discussed that normal games are rarely normal here, and I don´t like that. If you sign up for a normal game, then you should be able to play almost without reading the OP, and identify every aspect of the different roles simply by their name.
If that is the case then I'm fine changing it to a theme game. |
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| Foolishness United States. April 18 2012 06:57. Posts 2324 | Profile Blog # |
| After talking it over with others, yes we're considering it a Themed game. I've gone ahead and put you in the queue anyways even though it's overfull. Cyber_Cheese will be putting up his themed game next anyways as Incognito needs a little more time to get his game ready. |
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| [UoN]Sentinel United States. April 18 2012 11:18. Posts 2543 | Profile Blog # |
| I'd like to cohost sometime as well. DoctorH do you have both your cohosts already? |
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| DoctorHelvetica United States. April 18 2012 11:31. Posts 13955 | Profile Blog # | |
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| syllogism Finland. April 18 2012 15:31. Posts 5337 | Profile # |
On April 16 2012 17:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I'd like to go down for another themed after the last one in the Q. I will need 2 cohosts for it.
My concept is tri-town mafia. This is how it would work.
You have three towns infested with scum. Each town has its own QT. A complete day cycle has three 24 hour phases (morning/afternoon/evening). Each town nominates someone to be lynched during the morning in their QT. Towns will have like a 9/2 town:scum ratio or maybe 8/2. It could become much smaller than that if needed.
In the main thread during the afternoon/evening, the mod announces all the lynch nominees from each town and the towns as a whole must vote which one to get rid of. All scum can communicate and know who each other are. IF town wins 2/3 towns, town as a whole wins. If mafia win 2/3 towns, mafia as a whole wins.
This is interesting, but can members of specific town PM each other or only post in the QT/Main thread? If they can't PM, it seems likely to me towns won't bother using their respective QTs, but just post in the main thread.Last edit: 2012-04-18 15:43:58 |
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| DoctorHelvetica United States. April 18 2012 17:06. Posts 13955 | Profile Blog # |
They can only post in the QT main thread. They have to use their QT to nominate someone to be lynched that day. I'm considering not allowing anyone to post in the main thread during the morning phase. The afternoon would start with a post from the mod announcing each lynch candidate and during the remaining 48 hours the lynch candidates will appeal their cases to try to get another one lynched.
Because town can not read eachothers QT's (they are hidden) it makes no sense to discuss anything but who out of the current candidates should be lynched and possibly what the mafia/town balances are in the towns. When it comes to actual scumhunting in the towns it has to be done consistently throughout the game and exclusively in the quicktopics.
This breaks scumhunting up into two phases. The first phase would be the most familiar phase and it is trying to determine who is scum in a small town of about 10-11 people. The second phase is more about determining which cases are good and differentiating between bad town/mafia out of a set list of lynch candidates. This is a skill I think a lot of TL players lack anyway. |
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| Palmar Iceland. April 18 2012 18:00. Posts 7583 | Profile Blog # |
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| [UoN]Sentinel United States. April 18 2012 18:46. Posts 2543 | Profile Blog # |
| imho the second phase would be a shitstorm. But with some blue roles it would work out really swell. |
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