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 SmokeNAPancake   United States. January 15 2011 01:56. Posts 3
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Long list of strengths and weaknesses (imo) of ME1 and ME2 in spoiler

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Multiplayer... meh not something I really care about for this game
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 GenericTerranPlayer   Singapore. January 15 2011 02:26. Posts 667
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On January 15 2011 01:56 SmokeNAPancake wrote:
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hits the nail right on the head

ME2 definitely didn't have the "Shepard's changing the galaxy" feel that ME1 had. He made history, destroyed a reaper and saved the council (presumably) but in ME2 be barely does anything at all. If anything it was a step backwards achievement-wise, he stops a cure for the krogan genophage and only manages to kill a half formed reaper. ME2 may have been much more streamlined but ME1 was definetly more epic
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 Random()   Kyrgyz Republic. January 15 2011 02:43. Posts 1237
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I really liked ME1, but was quite disappointed with ME2. I felt that in ME1 the characters turned out to be interesting and likeable because the game designers were not explicitly trying to make them "cool", so they felt more natural and believable. This goes both for the player's party and the "villains".

In ME2 it was the other way around, most of the characters were really boring despite the obvious attempt to make them unique and cool. To be honest I can't even recall much about any of them besides Tali, Mordin and Legion, and I have done every side mission there was. I actually thought Kelly was the most charismatic of all the new characters and she wasn't even a major character. And the ending was a true /facepalm moment for me.

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 Gnosis   Canada. January 15 2011 03:06. Posts 828
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"Reason is flawless, de jure, but reasoners are not, de facto." – Peter Kreeft
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 Billy_   January 15 2011 03:09. Posts 461
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On January 15 2011 01:56 SmokeNAPancake wrote:
Simply put, the story of ME2 is way too centered around the around the characters. I get that it is supposed to make the game feel more personal, but it also makes the game progress relatively little until the final few missions. As another poster put it, half of the characters have no place. I think Bioware could have done a better job of making the characters loyalty missions tie into gaining more galactic support to fight the Reapers. Legion's loyalty missions effectively helps bring the geth into the fight against them, but that seems to be the only one seem very important. Compared to the potential destruction of the galaxy, who cares if Jack has bad childhood memories? Who cares if Jacob has daddy issues or Mordin wants to save his pupil? Grunt's loyalty mission could have been tied to gaining the krogans as allies, while still remaining personal. Mordins' loyalty mission could have been about convincing him to develop a cure to the krogan genophage. Tali's loyalty mission could have been tied to gaining the support of the quarians. Samara's mission could be tied to gaining the alliance of more asari justicars to make kind of a second commando team if needed Not every missions needed to be like this, but i would have given a nice balance to "getting a competent and loyal team" and "need more firepower to take out Reapers if an entire fleet can only take out one"


I don't think Mordin deserves to be picked on. In fact, his counter for the collectors should be enough to put him in the top 5 list of important allies of the series, so I'd say he deserves some slack.

And maybe ME3 can retroactively fix some of the ME2 blunders by making the recruitables more pertinent to the story? I'm still no sure how Garrus, Jack and Jacob could become useful on a more galactic scale like Grunt, Tali or Legion could due to their racial connections, but as far as I'm concerned it's only the missed potential that bothered me. It;s okay for Garrus to be around for old times sake, for Jacob to be a random flunky and for Jack to stay for... come to think of it, why wouldn't she just buzz off asap? She hates Cerberus...
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 JayConn   United States. January 15 2011 03:14. Posts 401
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As long as it doesn't effect single player, I'll be happy with it. The first two were so good, I just need a good, epic, grand finale. But who knows, some kind of multi player could be fun. Maybe a little coop separate from the main campaign.
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 Reneblade   United States. January 15 2011 03:51. Posts 6
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the multiplayer thing will turn out ok. have faith in bioware.

the part we should be focusing on is:

ITS THE THIRD GAME IN A TRILOGY.


no more mass effect.
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 snotboogie   Australia. January 15 2011 11:35. Posts 3496
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On January 15 2011 03:51 Reneblade wrote:
the multiplayer thing will turn out ok. have faith in bioware.

the part we should be focusing on is:

ITS THE THIRD GAME IN A TRILOGY.


no more mass effect.


They confirmed that they will have more games set in the universe after the trilogy is done =) Not sure if Shepard will be the main character though.
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 Haemonculus   United States. January 15 2011 11:46. Posts 6046
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On January 15 2011 11:35 snotboogie wrote:

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They confirmed that they will have more games set in the universe after the trilogy is done =) Not sure if Shepard will be the main character though.

Worries me that we might soon see:

Mass Effect Wars
ME: ODST
Mass Effect: Ilos
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 Ferrose   United States. January 15 2011 11:55. Posts 8045
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Is the third game confirmed to have more Legion? :3
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 rayofpain   Canada. January 26 2011 02:45. Posts 22
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mass effect wars LOOOOOOOOL alliance, citadel united, and reapers GOOGOGOGO
i am so sorry
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 RyanRushia   United States. January 26 2011 02:50. Posts 2606
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god i cant wait for this... Bioware has put out my 2 favorite series ever... Dragon Age Origins and Mass effect... i don't even care what they do i'm going to buy every future game int hese series and play the shit out of it

although im a huge fan of their single player... we'll see how good the multiplayer is before i make any promises on playing that
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 amd098   Korea (North). January 26 2011 03:34. Posts 1191
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if mp is bad, i can ignore it, mass effect for me is single player
i still need to beat the liara dlc on insanity... only achievement i have left on me2
me2 is the only game i found worthy of getting all the achievements for, i love it
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  Sm3agol   United States. January 26 2011 03:40. Posts 2005Profile Blog # 
Hopefully future Mass Effect universe games include more inter-species physical relations.
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 Euronyme   Sweden. January 26 2011 04:02. Posts 3781
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Bioware is the only company who has made single player games that are actually worth keeping after playing them through. I have faith in that they'll make ME3 just as awesome. I feel like they are separate enough from EA to actually make quality games, without just thinking of money.

I'm a little worried about blizzard though. First of all they are planning on 3x starcraft 2. Worries me to say the least, plus that they merged with the ultra capitalist activision.
We'll see what the future holds for the gaming industry, but I sincerely hope they keep thinking of quality instead of quantity.
Single player co-up seems exciting to me. I don't know anyone who plays mass effect, but maybe we could make a thread about it on TL ^^
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 darmousseh   United States. January 26 2011 04:16. Posts 3420
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EA generally doesn't touch programming houses since they are a huge company already. They might ask for 1-2 things, but in general they just pay for development and reap in the profits.

Activision is different though. They purchased a company with a HUGE market. Their relationship with blizzard is one of their most important, aside from rock band or call of duty. My guess is that activision interacts constantly with blizzard. Also, blizzard doesn't always make the best financial decisions. This is probably where activision came in the to help. I'm sure the 2 expansion thing is a direct result of their relationship and battle.net seems to be a joint blizzard-activision product with the goal of becoming the next steam.


In all though, Mass Effect 3 should be awesome and I am looking forward to an amazing game.
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 Liquoid   United Kingdom. January 26 2011 05:49. Posts 275
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Why multiplayer, why... RPG's with this richness should be single player!
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 PrideNeverDie   United States. January 26 2011 05:52. Posts 275
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it can't be worse than WoW pvp...
If you want it bad enough you will find a way; If you don't, you will find an excuse
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 I_Love_Bacon   January 26 2011 06:02. Posts 4100
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On January 26 2011 05:49 Liquoid wrote:
Why multiplayer, why... RPG's with this richness should be single player!


Keep in mind, that has had to be the case because the combat in 99% of rpgs is borderline atrocious. Whether it be a turn based JRPG or a more open world western rpg the combat has always been the weak point of the rpg genre. Mass Effect 2 arguably changed that. Now, while the combat did indeed become somewhat monotonous, that can be said about almost any game after you clock 20 hours into it.

I actually think a revolutionary rpg will be a true team-oriented game with co-op for online or off that has a rich world and plot is the driving force. Imagine playing a game like Mass Effect where your team of 3 are all players that have a background and storyline that come with it that is actually relevant to the plot. Individual missions or storyline on the side and not as a group could possibly be accomplished too. Have decisions that sometimes come down to individuals or the group as a whole.

I eagerly await that rpg, that's for sure.

I meandered a little bit from the point I was originally going to make because that idea just sinks into the depths of my brain and festers there hoping that it will one day become a reality. Multiplayer doesn't have to detract from the single player aspect of mass effect. If a combat system is good enough there is almost no reason not to include a multiplayer option. Obviously, if it somehow means they actually cut short effort on single player people will be disappointed, but that doesn't mean the mere inclusion of it means that that cut to single player.
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 Fiend13   Germany. January 26 2011 06:10. Posts 138
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Bioware denied multiplayer shortly after this rumour (google for the source i don't have it at my hands right now). I apologize for making this thread pointless.
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