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| FiWiFaKi Canada. December 21 2010 14:20. Posts 2439 | Profile Blog # |
Hello TL, so when I'm not in the mood for laddering, or playing 1v1 in the custom, I guess my OCD just kicks in or something, and I feel like I want to get all the achievements. Co-op achievements should be easy to get, right? Well you'd think they are, but when playing with random people, they do a some really weird things... Rushing with 1 base carrier, and all that fun stuff, and vs insane ai's, that's a nono.
So I feel like there is a need for this thread, for people who want to get the co-op achievements, just post your id and your 3 digit # so we can find good, friendly, & mature people to do co-op with.
Please enter your info in this format and I will add you to the list in this thread.
TL ID: Squirrel_Aids B.net Name: Gracken Code: 420 Server: NA (The coolest one ) Comments: I'm pro, play with mee!
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+ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler [North America] +TL ID: Skillz_Man B.net Name: KiWiKaKi [shh  ] Code: 614 Comments: I need about 125 insane wins, I have all streaks, but I can help you with them. Please make sure that you know the builds well, or I might yell at you! But nah, I'ma chill person to talk to, I have Vent, and TS if you guys want to use it. I'm also looking to do the Race AI achievements which are medium. So if you're not sure you can finish insane, msg me for that! Happy hunting. TL ID: Kezsen B.net Name: Kezsen Code: 493 Comments: How would you do the insane one together? 6 pool/cannon rush? TL ID: Link240 B.net Name: Link Code: 668 Server: NA Comments: I'm available during evenings/nights TL ID: 7 B.net Name: Seven Code: 726 Server: NA Comments: I just want to keep playing to get a lot of wins TL ID: BuuGhost B.net Name: BuuGhost Code: 959 Server: NA Comments: Limited to Hard (For a guranteed win, I am on a 25 stream with it as i speak, The stats lie because i moved from EU > NA) Willing to try Veryhard if losses are acceptable. No Teamspeak or Ventrilo TL ID: Sanguinarius B.net Name: Sanguinarius Code: 109 Server: NA Comments: I need ~100 Insane wins and a boat load of Mediums. I am on alot, but none of my friends are remotely interested in co-ops. I am willing to help people with insane streaks, but please know what you are doing..... TL ID: JepeuK Battle.net Name: Kim Code: 476 Server: NA Comments: I'll help anyone with anything. I'm a bronze player but I'm pretty good in single-player modes (ironic I know). Really sound guy, willing to play with anyone as long as you're chill. TL ID: god_forbids B.net Name: YoshoMasaki Code: 762 Server: NA Comments: I won't lose. TL ID: fermat200pg B.net Name: fermatPG Code: 643 Server: NA Comments: I need about 100 more insane wins (I got the streaks already), and a lot of mediums. I'm not too consistent with the streaks, but I can help you guys try for those if you need them. TL ID: TsoBadGuy B.net Name: TsoBadGuy Code: 795 Server: NA Comments: An achievement whore. Chill. Looking for someone to do Insane with. Am on quite often, but randomly. TL ID: JabbaDaButt B.net Name: JabbaDaButt Code: 570 Server: NA Comments: An Achievement Hoarder. Have only played a few Very Hard Co-op games so far, but will be practicing what was suggested in the guide. TL ID: Kapoue B.net Name: Kapoue Code: 923 Server: NA Comments: I'm looking for the 3v3 coop streaks acheivments. I can play any race to cheese. Don't judge me by my 1v1, 3v3 and 4v4 records, I fool around in the low leagues TL ID: Mortal B.net Name: Mortal Code: 724 Server: NA I'm going for all Cooperative achievements. Looking to get the Insane ones out of the way (2v2/3v3 streaks, as well as the race combinations), then go into the mindless grind of 250 wins for each race. TL ID: GreatFall B.net Name: greatfall Code: 635 Server: NA (The coolest one ) Comments: I need to work on the insane achivements. I'm competent and have a good strategy for Toss (cannon to void ray), Terran (reaper) and Zerg (muta). I'm especially looking for a good group to get the 3v3 games done. TL ID: KoalaZerg B.net Name: KoalaZerg Code: 825 Server: NA Comments: Need someone to get the 15 streak achieve for the 2v2 and 3v3 insane. Am not on much during the weekdays, so someone who won't mind doing it spread out over a couple weekends. Can do c rush, 7 pool gas steal, and 3 rax reaper well. Working on the double 2 gate and terran ones TL ID: Cofo B.net: Cofo Code: 921 Server: NA Comments: Just started working on these, so I need pretty much all of them. I'm down to play any race. TL ID: Neosta2 B.net Name: Neosta Code: 351 Server: NA Comments: Need a good partner to do the Insane Achievements. TL ID: XiIVcDeI B.net Name: DivideImpera Code: 541 Server: NA Comments: Other than insane wins, 15 2v2 & 3v3 in a row and x3 Terran & x3 Zerg TL ID: Blight_Demon B.net Name: Blight Code: 391 Server: NA (The coolest one ) Comments: Need about 100 more insane coop wins. I'm an expert at killing them in 5 minutes, check out my thread for tips! + Show Spoiler [Europe] + TL ID: Chaosu B.net Name: Chaosu Code: 801 Server: EU Comments: insane only, i do cannon rush, takes 8mins to gg but is safe against any race on any map. needs almost everything 2vs2 and 3vs3, add me to friends and message anytime you log in
TL ID: Shirolol B.net Name: Shiro Code: 525 Server: EU Comments: Currently just need to farm insane wins, need someone to spam rushes with - I play random.
TL ID: Blower (Unwired is taken) B.net Name: Unwired Code: 423 Server: Europe I am looking for anyone who can help me get 3v3 insane coop 15 streak. I have a hard time winning on Arakan Citadel as 3 toss, so any advice would be much appreciated or anyone who can help me with getting 3v3 insane coop 15 streak achiv would be so great. Thanks guys !
TL ID: Mataza B.net Name: Mataza Code: 201 Server: EU Comments: Do only insane, made everything besides winning 250 so I have some experience and can help out
TL ID: orcjmr B.net Name: Orc Code: 758 Server: Europe Comments: Just started looking at co-op, though have already done all Solo Insane AI stuff. Usually online at 14:00-20:00 GMT, though not often. Will try to keep chat channel up.
+ Show Spoiler [SEA] + TL ID: Maskedsatyr B.net Name: MaskedSatyr Code: 689 Server: SEA Comments: (Insane only) Usually on from 8pm-6am; might be afk wait for my reply!
TL ID: WinterFalls B.net Name: Winter Code: 661 Server: SEA Comments: Trying to find VH 3v3 partners, or insane though my win rate isn't that high against them
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Mini Insane Ai Co-op Guide
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This guide guarantees you the fastest wins, by no means is it the safest and easiest, but you will get the fastest wins. If both players have all enemy probes or workers running around, one of the people in party will leave (if it's after the 5:00 mark) and the computers will both type out.
Protoss The easy way to do it is with a cannon rush (10 pylon, 10 forge). Send the probe that returns the first set of minerals to their base, and build a pylon on the bottom of their ramp, at 100 minerals build a pylon on the highground, and cancel it when it's about to die. Make a forge, after the forge, another pylon on the highground, cancel it when they arrive, make a cannon the bottom of the ledge, once it finishes place a cannon (or a pylon if your cannon is well protected) and advance farther, once you reach their mineral line you have won. Make sure you don't go slow because they can mass up a marauder ball quickly, no other real tips here.
The other, in my opinion better build (double 10 gate), because it works on maps where their ledge is far away from their main. Pull your first probe that returns cargo, make a pylon on low ground right near his base, followed by the pylon on top of his ramp, after you cancel it, make a gateway, then another pylon on the top of the ramp, after canceling that one make your second gateway, and your second pylon to support more supply, and start chronoboosting your zealots out, engage when you have three. Use the rest to kill the one zealot that will come out, and you are done. This build works so well that there is no real advice, just make sure you are pylon harassing him, as it makes a huge difference.
Race specifically, don't do the cannon rush against zerg, the double 10 gateway build kills everything, regadless of positions.
Zerg Zerg does the same build against every single race. The first drone that returns cargo goes to your opponents base to gas steal, make a spawning pool at 7. Keep stealing the gas, and cancelling it over and over, however be very careful if you have a terran opponent on a map where the two bases are together, as workers will attack his SCV building, so cancel earlier than you usually do, or you'll make someone not-so-happy! When the spawning pool is making, create an overlord, and when your spawning pool finishes you should have just about 150 minerals for the zerglings.
Keep constant zergling production and start killing your opponents base. I don't like engaging your opponents workers directly, rather target their pylon/depot, which will make them pull their scvs, pull back when they arrive, or pick some off if they come in small numbers. Engage their workers when they have no army, and you have 10 (12 if your harass sucked) zerglings. Zerg is really easy to do, so the end was mostly trying to maximize the best time.
Quick tips againsts specific races. Againsts zerg, snipe their spawning pool right away, before engaging anything. Also remember you have a drone in their base to make a spine crawler. Againsts terran keep a few lings near their barracks to kill the marines right away.
Terran Terran. Without a doubt the hardest race to rush with. Well all yours builds should start the same. Make SCVs till 8 supply, when you have 50 minerals and your 8th SCV is building (give or take a bit depending on the map), take one SCV to your opponents base, in meantime, make a supply depot in your base. Also send another SCV to their base after your depot is building and you have 75 minerals~. Make a depot on their highground, and cancel it when the opponents workers arrive, make a barracks with that SCV right after (next to ramp, duh). The next SCV will arrive shortly, and now do the depot harass with this one, follow it up with a second barracks. The barracks are both made at 8 supply. Once your first barracks finishes, do one last depot harass. Now marine micro takes over.
Dealing with zerg is probably the easiest terran match up. Their first attack unit is a queen, and a while later comes some roaches. You don't need a bunker or anything, just keep engaging the drones which will make them come to you, then pull back without taking damage. The queen comes out when you have 4 marines, and the 5th on it's way, and by pulling the hurt marine back you shouldn't lose anything. And with that just keep killing drones, once you have maybe 8 marines roaches will hatch 1 by 1, and you win.
I've been playing with lots of random people for co-op, and wow, nobody can do TvT, while it really isn't that hard, just follow the same process as TvZ, and keep the damaged marines back, no bunkers or anything.
Now TvP is probably the hardest, after you do the depot harass 3 times, make your first marine, and a bunker on the low ground. He will have no zealots while you only have two marines. So simply keep attacking a pylon to seduce the probes, and make them waste more mining time. When the first zealot arrives, flee to the bunker, he will chase you, and kill him, once hes dead youll have 4 marines, almost 5, and another zealot will be there to greet you. 4 marines vs 1 zealot micro shouldn't be too bad, and your marine force will keep building up till sending zealots one by one is useless and you are free to go for his mineral line without any retaliation. However, there is a difficult situation on 2 maps in the map pool, their base is really far away from the ramp, and you can't lure them into the bunker. Now without a bunker, it's next to impossible to beat them, so I recommend you switch opponents with your allies, unless he's also terran (LOL). What you can do in that scenario though... I don't have a exact time, but after a while, their probes stop attacking structures within their base, so at maybe 4:30 you can sneak an SCV in and build a bunker in their base. Keep running your marines around until the bunker finishes then run inside, also a good idea is to bring your other SCV to repair as they do sometimes pull their probes to attacked the finished bunker.
Thanks for reading, if you have any builds that you think work really well, feel free to PM them to me, I'll review them, and see if they surpass these, thank you!
New: There is going to be a channel TL Coop as suggested by captncraig to find partners, so if you're online playing games, make sure you are in the channel and some people are bound to join now and then. Hopefully it will be a good way to find partners =)
So please, drop me a msg to play at Kiwikaki.614, and leave your info here, and let's play some co-op!Last edit: 2011-03-27 07:38:54 |
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| KezseN Australia. December 21 2010 14:48. Posts 945 | Profile Blog # |
TL ID: Kezsen B.net Name: Kezsen Code: 493 Server: NA Comments: How would you do the insane one together? 6 pool/cannon rush? |
| | Bioware is like Wade. The best armor smith in Denerim who can make a masterpiece of an armor set if given enough time. EA is like Herren, who makes Wade rush his armor sets and the quality isn't nearly as good but they make more money. Wade made a mistake |
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| Link240 United States. December 21 2010 14:53. Posts 1 | Profile # |
Awesome I have the same problem. The empty achievement pictures mock me T__T. Looking to get the 15 win streak for 2v2 and 3v3 as well as some of the others. Mostly i've been canon rushing, but I'm open to suggestions.
TL ID: Link240 B.net Name: Link Code: 668 Server: NA Comments: I'm available during evenings/nights
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| FiWiFaKi Canada. December 21 2010 14:58. Posts 2439 | Profile Blog # |
Well the cannon rush still works, you do have to start outside of your opponents base with the cannons, but it is pretty much a guaranteed win, takes longer than before the patch.
The 6 pool is very easy vs terran, vs zerg is requires a bit of micro and is somewhat difficult vs many of their openings... And vs toss, oh god, either if you get the toss, switch opponents with your partner, and if their both toss, just leave. You can do a gas steal to win, but in will screw you over in pvz and pvt.
As terran, 2 rax marine is an easy win vs terran (double 8 rax)... Against zerg you simply need to micro like Foxer to kill the lings and drones, kill him before he gets roaches, or you can bunker creep but that's really slow. Against protoss, it depends on the map but you have to do a slow bunker push, but you need to do it fast, which is hard to do, so you need to find places where you can skip bunkers and they wont attack you.
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| KezseN Australia. December 21 2010 15:02. Posts 945 | Profile Blog # |
So basically, theres no way you can win against toss when you're zerg?
what about terran? does the 2 rax still work against them? |
| | Bioware is like Wade. The best armor smith in Denerim who can make a masterpiece of an armor set if given enough time. EA is like Herren, who makes Wade rush his armor sets and the quality isn't nearly as good but they make more money. Wade made a mistake |
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| FiWiFaKi Canada. December 21 2010 15:06. Posts 2439 | Profile Blog # |
On December 21 2010 15:02 KezseN wrote: So basically, theres no way you can win against toss when you're zerg?
what about terran? does the 2 rax still work against them?
Well by rushing the only way I can ever win is, I have to be close to them, and when fighting their zealots, let the zergling take two shots, move back, and well if you don't have enxt to perfect micro you will lose. Yes, 2rax in TvT does work, just make sure to keep damaged marines back. You can practice a couple strategies in 1v1 vs insane AI to get the feel of them, as well as the timings down. |
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| KezseN Australia. December 21 2010 15:17. Posts 945 | Profile Blog # |
| Alright, we'll see what happens when we are up against toss. Kinda like facing off against P with an extreme brutal diffculty AI. |
| | Bioware is like Wade. The best armor smith in Denerim who can make a masterpiece of an armor set if given enough time. EA is like Herren, who makes Wade rush his armor sets and the quality isn't nearly as good but they make more money. Wade made a mistake |
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| 7 Canada. December 21 2010 16:07. Posts 1216 | Profile # |
TL ID: 7 B.net Name: Seven Code: 726 Server: NA Comments: I just want to keep playing to get a lot of wins  |
| | I love the sense of camaraderie when an entire line of cars teams up to prevent a dick from cutting in at the front. Stay strong, brothers! |
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| BuuGhost Netherlands. December 21 2010 18:15. Posts 338 | Profile # |
TL ID: BuuGhost B.net Name: BuuGhost Code: 959 Server: NA Comments: Limited to Hard (For a guranteed win, I am on a 25 stream with it as i speak, The stats lie because i moved from EU > NA) Willing to try Veryhard if losses are acceptable. No Teamspeak or Ventrilo.Last edit: 2010-12-21 18:16:16 |
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| Maskedsatyr Singapore. December 21 2010 18:38. Posts 1243 | Profile # |
TL ID: Maskedsatyr B.net Name: MaskedSatyr Code: 689 Server: SEA Comments: (Insane only) Usually on from 8pm-6am; might be afk wait for my reply! |
| | "Don't believe in you who believes in me, don't believe in me who believes in you, believe in you...who believes in yourself!" |
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| WinterFalls Singapore. December 21 2010 19:01. Posts 5 | Profile # |
TL ID: WinterFalls B.net Name: Winter Code: 661 Server: SEA Comments: Trying to find VH 3v3 partners, or insane though my win rate isn't that high against them |
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| r2ddrew United States. December 21 2010 23:47. Posts 7 | Profile # |
TL ID: r2ddrew B.net Name: drew Code: 1375 Server NA Comments: I need the Hard 15 streak to finish hard, and need some partners for VHard and up. |
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| vicariouscheese United States. December 22 2010 01:04. Posts 571 | Profile # |
On December 21 2010 23:47 r2ddrew wrote: TL ID: r2ddrew B.net Name: drew Code: 1375 Server NA Comments: I need the Hard 15 streak to finish hard, and need some partners for VHard and up.
Do you know that if you do the achievements on insane they count for every other difficulty as well?
Doing hard then very hard then insane would take a ridiculous amount of time imo... |
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| Sanguinarius United States. December 22 2010 01:29. Posts 3326 | Profile # |
TL ID: Sanguinarius B.net Name: Sanguinarius Code: 109 Server: NA Comments: I need ~100 Insane wins and a boat load of Mediums. I am on alot, but none of my friends are remotely interested in co-ops. I am willing to help people with insane streaks, but please know what you are doing..... |
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xaeiu December 22 2010 01:35. Posts 432 | Profile Blog # |
On December 22 2010 01:04 vicariouscheese wrote: Show nested quote +On December 21 2010 23:47 r2ddrew wrote: TL ID: r2ddrew B.net Name: drew Code: 1375 Server NA Comments: I need the Hard 15 streak to finish hard, and need some partners for VHard and up.
Do you know that if you do the achievements on insane they count for every other difficulty as well? Doing hard then very hard then insane would take a ridiculous amount of time imo...
they do count downwards... so technically you just have to do 250 on insane and you would get the 250 also for very hard, hard and medium |
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| JepeuK United States. December 22 2010 02:25. Posts 25 | Profile # |
TL ID: JepeuK Battle.net Name: Kim Code: 476 Server: NA Comments: I'll help anyone with anything. I'm a bronze player but I'm pretty good in single-player modes (ironic I know). Really sound guy, willing to play with anyone as long as you're chill. |
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| FiWiFaKi Canada. December 22 2010 02:27. Posts 2439 | Profile Blog # |
On December 21 2010 23:47 r2ddrew wrote: TL ID: r2ddrew B.net Name: drew Code: 1375 Server NA Comments: I need the Hard 15 streak to finish hard, and need some partners for VHard and up.
Are you sure your code is 4 digits?... And it might me a tad easier to not do the 15 streak hard or very hard, Im sure we will all be able to insane on first try, even though Im so happy I get them all before patch ^^ |
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| BurningSera United Kingdom. December 22 2010 07:22. Posts 5222 | Profile Blog # |
i did some coop achivement back then when we can cheese way easier get bored really quick made me give up but now i cant do with the new patch (there is no reason to play standard game with insane ai anyway). just ask me if you need a partner in eu!
TL ID: BurningSera B.net Name: BurningSera Code: 792 Server EU Comments: just pm tell me you wanna do coop, if i am not with friends i should be able to play with you :D |
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| r2ddrew United States. December 22 2010 13:58. Posts 7 | Profile # |
Are you sure your code is 4 digits?... And it might me a tad easier to not do the 15 streak hard or very hard, Im sure we will all be able to insane on first try, even though Im so happy I get them all before patch ^^
My character code says 1375, so i am fairly positive it is 4 digits, and I am aware that its more efficient to beat insane and get the achievements for the lower difficulties, I just need the 15 streak for the hard co-op to be complete, and I will def. need some help with very hard and up because no one I play with can beat hard consistently. This was my first post on TL and now I'm shaken, I thought this was a thread criticism free, being co-op and all.... geeze, .......still love you tho |
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| god_forbids United States. December 22 2010 16:48. Posts 111 | Profile # |
TL ID: god_forbids B.net Name: YoshoMasaki Code: 762 Server: NA Comments: I won't lose.
I actually only need the Race AI achieves (which can all be done on > Medium AI). Message me if you want a break from Insane as Medium does not aggro at all to cannons/sunkens/bunkers and thus is trivial to kill. I may write a guide on Insane AI stomping if people want it. |
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