| FyRe_DragOn Canada. December 27 2010 14:42. Posts 1403 | Profile Blog # |
Just got sc2 today. I tried playing campaign but it lags like fuck, so its almost unplayable 
My question is, what can I do to improve performance enough to play with no lag and have other stuff open like music? Also streaming would be nice, but my main priority is on actually being able to play at the moment.
I upgraded my RAM a few days b4 buying the game - according to my computer I now have 1.49GB of RAM, along with 2.80GHz of something? Im pretty ignorant about stuff like this, so if some1 could explain what the best option(s) is it would be highly appreciated 
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| Chairman Ray Canada. December 27 2010 14:42. Posts 7348 | Profile Blog # |
| RAM isn't the biggest issue, neither is processor. What limits SC2 is usually your GPU. What is your graphics card? |
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| synapse China. December 27 2010 14:43. Posts 6907 | Profile Blog # |
The source of your SCII performance bottleneck will be your GPU. What graphics card do you have?
1.49 GB is still not a lot of RAM at all, and 2.80GHz is referring to your processor speed (per core).
EDIT: Haha beat me  Last edit: 2010-12-27 14:45:25 |
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| Coagulation United States. December 27 2010 14:44. Posts 7561 | Profile Blog # |
| u should prolly have 2gig ram minimum i think |
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| FyRe_DragOn Canada. December 27 2010 14:52. Posts 1403 | Profile Blog # |
| ok so what exactly is GPU? and how do I check my graphics card lol. Thanks for the advice so far though, I was thinking the same thing about the 2GB of RAM but wasnt sure if that was the whole issue. |
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| vek Australia. December 27 2010 14:55. Posts 935 | Profile # |
On December 27 2010 14:42 Chairman Ray wrote:
RAM isn't the biggest issue, neither is processor. What limits SC2 is usually your GPU. What is your graphics card?
With less than 2GB it is going to chug even with an i7 and a 6970. Any more than 2 is preferable with 4 being ideal for SC2.
On December 27 2010 14:52 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
ok so what exactly is GPU? and how do I check my graphics card lol. Thanks for the advice so far though, I was thinking the same thing about the 2GB of RAM but wasnt sure if that was the whole issue.
Download this:
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
Tell us what it says in the graphics tab.Last edit: 2010-12-27 14:56:00 |
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| synapse China. December 27 2010 14:59. Posts 6907 | Profile Blog # |
On December 27 2010 14:52 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
ok so what exactly is GPU? and how do I check my graphics card lol. Thanks for the advice so far though, I was thinking the same thing about the 2GB of RAM but wasnt sure if that was the whole issue.
GPU = graphics card, in case that wasn't clear.
Windows key + R, then type in "dxdiag" and click "Okay." Paste whatever it gives you in the System and Display tabs into this thread. (This is probably a better idea than downloading a program to tell you your graphics card...)Last edit: 2010-12-27 15:01:16 |
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| FyRe_DragOn Canada. December 27 2010 15:12. Posts 1403 | Profile Blog # |
On December 27 2010 14:59 synapse wrote:
Show nested quote +On December 27 2010 14:52 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
ok so what exactly is GPU? and how do I check my graphics card lol. Thanks for the advice so far though, I was thinking the same thing about the 2GB of RAM but wasnt sure if that was the whole issue.
GPU = graphics card, in case that wasn't clear. Windows key + R, then type in "dxdiag" and click "Okay." Paste whatever it gives you in the System and Display tabs into this thread. (This is probably a better idea than downloading a program to tell you your graphics card...)
alright, it gave me the option to save the info into .txt form (thankfully) so here are the OS and display parts:
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.100427-1636)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: HP Pavilion 061
System Model: EX266AA-ABA A1512X
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 1526MB RAM
Page File: 1914MB used, 985MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode
Display Devices
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Card name: Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family
Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
Chip type: Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family
DAC type: Internal
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2772&SUBSYS_2A3B103C&REV_02
Display Memory: 224.0 MB
Current Mode: 1440 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: ialmrnt5.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.4497 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 2/7/2006 08:56:16, 45697 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: ialmnt5.sys
Mini VDD Date: 2/7/2006 09:04:34, 1399615 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B78E66-6432-11CF-1D62-310AA3C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x8086
Device ID: 0x2772
SubSys ID: 0x2A3B103C
Revision ID: 0x0002
Revision ID: 0x0002
Video Accel:
Deinterlace Caps: n/a
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Not Available
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run
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| vek Australia. December 27 2010 15:13. Posts 935 | Profile # |
Nothing wrong with CPU-Z and it gives a lot more useful information =o
But anyway, you aren't going to have much luck running SC2 on an old integrated video card like that I'm afraid.Last edit: 2010-12-27 15:14:30 |
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| synapse China. December 27 2010 15:16. Posts 6907 | Profile Blog # |
Alright, there's the source of your problem - you're trying to run SCII on an integrated graphics card. I think ~2GB RAM on Windows XP should be okay, though you could definitely use more. Dual core 2.8GHz processor is fine. But if you want to play SCII, you're going to have to install a new (discrete - discrete as opposed to integrated) graphics card.
On December 27 2010 15:13 vek wrote:
Nothing wrong with CPU-Z and it gives a lot more useful information =o
This may be true, but it's much easier to just run directx diagnostics.Last edit: 2010-12-27 15:17:27 |
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| FyRe_DragOn Canada. December 27 2010 15:17. Posts 1403 | Profile Blog # |
Ok, so my graphics card is trash I can install a better one though right? What are some good options there?
not sure what u mean by discrete discrete either lol. TY for the help so far guys, im learning!!Last edit: 2010-12-27 15:19:08 |
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| synapse China. December 27 2010 15:25. Posts 6907 | Profile Blog # |
On December 27 2010 15:17 FyRe_DragOn wrote:Ok, so my graphics card is trash I can install a better one though right? What are some good options there? not sure what u mean by discrete discrete either lol. TY for the help so far guys, im learning!!
Haha I meant "discrete, as opposed to integrated." Integrated graphics cards take power and use onboard memory, whereas discrete graphics cards take power directly from your power supply (PSU, power supply unit) and have their own dedicated memory.
If you want to get a new graphics card, first things first: find out if your motherboard has the proper PCI-Express slots. I'm sure theres some program out there for that, personally I just open up my case and take a look (google is your friend here).
Depending on your price range, 70-100 dollars can get you a graphics card that will run SCII on Medium, High decently with some lag when there are too many units... as in 200/200 battles. 150-200 dollars will get you something that can run SCII perfectly without any lag (EVER!), and on a much higher resolution screen that your current 1440x900.
Search up Newegg.com, they generally have the best prices around for these types of things. If you live near a Micro Center, those guys are good with computer parts.
On a side note, I've just assumed that you're talking about a desktop, but I'm not actually sure. Also, depending on how old your computer is, you might want to consider dishing out 500-600 dollars or so for a new computer. I'm not sure how well 1.5GB of RAM is going to hold up running SCII.Last edit: 2010-12-27 15:38:45 |
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| FyRe_DragOn Canada. December 27 2010 15:56. Posts 1403 | Profile Blog # |
its a desktop and i bought it like 3 years ago. That doesnt seem old at all..how much would it cost to upgrade to 4GB of RAM?
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| Fishraper United States. December 27 2010 16:47. Posts 69 | Profile # |
On December 27 2010 15:56 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
its a desktop and i bought it like 3 years ago. That doesnt seem old at all..how much would it cost to upgrade to 4GB of RAM?
If you wanna get technical/nit pick, even just 6 months can be considered "old" lol, specially for computers, always new crap coming out so fast.
I built a whole comp for 1300 recently, but that's with expensive parts. Could be done a lot cheaper.
Cost of memory is relatively cheap, specially assuming your set is will be DDR2-240pin?Last edit: 2010-12-27 16:47:51 |
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| lqd United States. December 27 2010 17:07. Posts 103 | Profile # |
Here's the specs of your computer according to HP:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00679525&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&site=null&key=null&product=3207936
As far as upgrades go, you can:
- upgrade CPU to any faster Pentium D
- upgrade video card to any PCI-Express video card
- upgrade RAM to 4 GB (4 sticks of 1 GB each)
However, you should also consider the following:
- faster Pentium D CPUs won't give you significantly better performance
- a new video card is a good way to go, but you may need a new power supply as well
- RAM is a worthwhile upgrade if you get a faster video card
Since the fastest CPUs that your motherboard supports are Pentium D's, and they are pretty slow CPU's, you basically have two options:
1. deal with the slow CPU and just upgrade video card, RAM, and maybe power supply
PROS: cheaper, video card and power supply can be reused in your next computer
CONS: slow CPU, RAM cannot be reused in your next computer
2. get a new computer
PROS: everything is nice and fast
CONS: more expensive |
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| FyRe_DragOn Canada. December 28 2010 03:56. Posts 1403 | Profile Blog # |
that was very helpful
i think imma go out and get a new graphics card for now. im pretty short on cash till next friday and i want to play sc2 asap lol. If it doesnt work out I may end up getting a new PC i guess.. |
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| synapse China. December 28 2010 04:11. Posts 6907 | Profile Blog # |
On December 28 2010 03:56 FyRe_DragOn wrote:that was very helpful i think imma go out and get a new graphics card for now. im pretty short on cash till next friday and i want to play sc2 asap lol. If it doesnt work out I may end up getting a new PC i guess..
If you get a decent graphics card and end up switching to a new PC later on, you can still use that graphics card, so this isn't a bad choice at all. |
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| scottyyy United Kingdom. December 28 2010 04:26. Posts 720 | Profile Blog # |
On December 28 2010 03:56 FyRe_DragOn wrote:that was very helpful i think imma go out and get a new graphics card for now. im pretty short on cash till next friday and i want to play sc2 asap lol. If it doesnt work out I may end up getting a new PC i guess..
How much do you want to spend? Also, can you tell us what power supply you have? Look at the PSU, it's the part of your computer where you plug the wall adapter into. Look for the wattage rating. Last edit: 2010-12-28 04:27:09 |
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| FyRe_DragOn Canada. December 28 2010 05:03. Posts 1403 | Profile Blog # |
i have about $150 to spend today, might be able to get up to 200. Hopefully thats enough to buy a nice one
Checked the PSU, it says OUTPUT 300W MAX in the largest lettering, and then some other ratings in smaller numbers (assuming they are less important lol). |
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| synapse China. December 28 2010 05:09. Posts 6907 | Profile Blog # |
On December 28 2010 05:03 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
i have about $150 to spend today, might be able to get up to 200. Hopefully thats enough to buy a nice one
Checked the PSU, it says OUTPUT 300W MAX in the largest lettering, and then some other ratings in smaller numbers (assuming they are less important lol).
Most decent GPU's require a 400W PSU. If you can find an energy efficient GPU (I'm currently using one myself, 9800GT EE; EE graphics cards take power from the motherboard, and generally run pretty well still.), that would solve your PSU problem.
Honestly though, it's not surprising that an OEM desktop (HP) comes with a shitty PSU.
If you have around 150 dollars to spend, http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%204017&IsNodeId=1&name=$100%20-%20$200
150 dollars is enough to buy a very very nice graphics card.Last edit: 2010-12-28 05:11:49 |
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