| Vasoline73 United States. February 02 2011 16:05. Posts 6970 | Profile Blog # |
Would love to see ForGG play SC2 but also kind it's kind of sad if he left KT midseason to do so  .
Good luck to him. He might actually make me watch SC2 |
| |
|
 Womwomwom February 02 2011 16:22. Posts 5557 | Profile Blog # |
On February 02 2011 14:36 Megaliskuu wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 02 2011 14:35 rasers wrote:
if he seriously left KT and Left MSL Ro16 or whatever it was... for SCII("high level" at this time well... then hes fucking stupid or a attention whore who wants another title..
Hes fucking forgg he wasn't gonna win msl, hes looking for the big bucks in sc2 where nothing but low b-team scrubs and mvp play, if he practices hard enough he will roll everyone!
I doubt he'd even do well in SC2. While he's good at building lots of shit and throwing them at his opponent, he doesn't strike me as a player who is good enough at positioning units to actually win a SC2 tournament.
In fact the only time he was really successful was during the Arena MSL. Otherwise he won games fairly frequently for Oz but wasn't all that great. His TvT was always eeeeehhh, his TvZ was great statistically not because he was amazing at all aspects on it but was able to crush zergs before they could get the ball going, and his TvP collapsed when they figured out how to block the typical timing attack. Last edit: 2011-02-02 16:28:41 |
|
|
| Megaliskuu United States. February 02 2011 16:43. Posts 5033 | Profile Blog # |
| Regardless he was still an active A-teamer, and the highest profile player to make the switch so far. |
| | aka Megalisk, TheMuTaL|BW>Everything|Add me on KR TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :) |  |
|
|
| Ryo February 02 2011 17:19. Posts 8411 | Profile Blog # |
| I wish him all the best in SC2 but what I don't understand is why he left mid-season when he could have left during the off season in October. Everything was in disarray when he left abruptly in round 2. |
| | 영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬. |  |
|
|
| Vasoline73 United States. February 02 2011 17:26. Posts 6970 | Profile Blog # |
| lol yeah ForGG wouldn't do well in SC2. Just like that ZergBong guy... another crappy KTF player who sucked in SC1 and did terrible in SC2.... yep... |
| |
|
| KonohaFlash Canada. February 02 2011 17:30. Posts 1590 | Profile # |
On February 02 2011 17:26 Vasoline73 wrote:
lol yeah ForGG wouldn't do well in SC2. Just like that ZergBong guy... another crappy KTF player who sucked in SC1 and did terrible in SC2.... yep...
Nestea aka zergbong has won a GSL and recently made the RO4 last gsl. What are you talking about??? |
| |
|
| Boonbag France. February 02 2011 17:31. Posts 2155 | Profile Blog # |
sc2 forgg would be uber hot to watch
give more s class please >.< |
| |
|
| O-ops United States. February 02 2011 17:32. Posts 2504 | Profile # |
On February 02 2011 17:26 Vasoline73 wrote:
lol yeah ForGG wouldn't do well in SC2. Just like that ZergBong guy... another crappy KTF player who sucked in SC1 and did terrible in SC2.... yep...
Zergbong won a GSL and made it to semis last season lol.
How the hell did you get 5500 posts? |
| | Fan of the Jangbanger |  |
|
|
| iLoveKT Philippines. February 02 2011 17:34. Posts 3244 | Profile Blog # |
| wow. sarcasm detector off. or is the joke on me? |
| | Woo Jung Ho |  |
|
|
| Ryo February 02 2011 17:36. Posts 8411 | Profile Blog # |
On February 02 2011 17:26 Vasoline73 wrote:
lol yeah ForGG wouldn't do well in SC2. Just like that ZergBong guy... another crappy KTF player who sucked in SC1 and did terrible in SC2.... yep...
I know you're trying hard to be sarcastic but Forgg for the most part was KT's 2nd Ace player and vice-captain. Zergbong did indeed suck in BW. Hardly worth a comparison, even a sarcastic one. Last edit: 2011-02-02 17:36:52 |
| | 영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬. | |
|
|
| BLinD-RawR India. February 02 2011 17:39. Posts 25249 | Profile Blog # |
On February 02 2011 17:34 iLoveKT wrote:
wow. sarcasm detector off. or is the joke on me?
i think we ended up in Romania somehow. |
| | Ultimate KT Rolster Fanboy!| Afrotoss Fan #3|Neo.G_Soulkey – I was a better child than ZerO| Woo Jung Ho, never forget.| I want to make a game that will surpass Brood War!!! That is my dream.|"My body is not ready"-Soulkey | |
|
|
| Vasoline73 United States. February 02 2011 17:42. Posts 6970 | Profile Blog # |
lol are you guys being serious? Obviously I was being sarcastic and obviously I was replying to Womwomwom who was saying ForGG would probably be a bad SC2 player...
My point being that if Zergbong who sucked at BW became Nestea then ForGG who was actually good/decent A teamer at BW should be expected to preform well or even better.
Yeah I randomly chose Zergbong and didn't know he was Nestea. K. 
Definitely some romanians in the thread  Last edit: 2011-02-02 17:42:45 |
| |
|
| MamiyaOtaru United States. February 02 2011 17:48. Posts 1651 | Profile Blog # |
On February 02 2011 17:30 KonohaFlash wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 02 2011 17:26 Vasoline73 wrote:
lol yeah ForGG wouldn't do well in SC2. Just like that ZergBong guy... another crappy KTF player who sucked in SC1 and did terrible in SC2.... yep...
Nestea aka zergbong has won a GSL and recently made the RO4 last gsl. What are you talking about???
On February 02 2011 17:32 O-ops wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 02 2011 17:26 Vasoline73 wrote:
lol yeah ForGG wouldn't do well in SC2. Just like that ZergBong guy... another crappy KTF player who sucked in SC1 and did terrible in SC2.... yep...
Zergbong won a GSL and made it to semis last season lol. How the hell did you get 5500 posts?
recent immigrants |
| |
|
| writer22816 China. February 02 2011 18:25. Posts 4774 | Profile Blog # |
Skill-wise fOrGG definitely has what it takes to be #1 SC2 considering the current pool of SC2 players but there is also the possibility that + Show Spoiler +SC2 skill ceiling is too low
So I wouldn't be surprised if MVP/IrOn/Zergbong take games off him. |
| | 8/4/12 never forget, never forgive. | |
|
|
| Scaramanga Australia. February 02 2011 18:31. Posts 7637 | Profile Blog # |
On February 02 2011 17:48 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 02 2011 17:30 KonohaFlash wrote:
On February 02 2011 17:26 Vasoline73 wrote:
lol yeah ForGG wouldn't do well in SC2. Just like that ZergBong guy... another crappy KTF player who sucked in SC1 and did terrible in SC2.... yep...
Nestea aka zergbong has won a GSL and recently made the RO4 last gsl. What are you talking about???
Show nested quote +On February 02 2011 17:32 O-ops wrote:
On February 02 2011 17:26 Vasoline73 wrote:
lol yeah ForGG wouldn't do well in SC2. Just like that ZergBong guy... another crappy KTF player who sucked in SC1 and did terrible in SC2.... yep...
Zergbong won a GSL and made it to semis last season lol. How the hell did you get 5500 posts?
recent immigrants
Romanians |
| | Flash rapes and pillages your [s]expos[/s] villages | "If you are going on a trip, where would you like to go?" | |
|
|
| eviltomahawk United States. February 02 2011 19:22. Posts 8940 | Profile Blog # |
What a strange turn of events. I'm sure that him retiring from BW was due to some pretty hefty (though unknown) personal reasons, which are perfectly understandable. His sudden retirement in the middle of MSL just wasn't a logical signal for a switch to SC2. A large factor in his retirement was probably non-SC2 related.
That being said, it should be really interesting to see how seriously he takes SC2. The game is so different that if you don't put in enough effort, no amount of skill can automatically make you win tournaments, as exhibited by Geumchi half-heartedly trying out SC2 only to not qualify for the GSL. It should be really exciting to see how a player of this caliber does at SC2 if he takes it seriously.
|
| | <3 <3 IU Ailee Minzi Gain <3 <3 ㅇㅅㅌㅅ | |
|
|
| PrinceXizor United States. February 02 2011 19:27. Posts 4861 | Profile Blog # |
On February 02 2011 18:25 writer22816 wrote:Skill-wise fOrGG definitely has what it takes to be #1 SC2 considering the current pool of SC2 players but there is also the possibility that + Show Spoiler +SC2 skill ceiling is too low . So I wouldn't be surprised if MVP/IrOn/Zergbong take games off him.
I hope this doesn't turn into a SC1 vs SC2 debate because honestly it's so dull both sides just use the same argument over and over and i'm really tired of sifting through it.
forGG's playstyle may seem like it fits well with sc2, but in reality his playstyle came about from a deep understanding of the game and it's timings, something that no one has in SC2 and that no one will have for quite some time, and THAT is the reason that forGG will be pretty unsuccessful in SC2, at least until everyone else has the same opportunity as him.
Zergbong was kind of a weird case in Starcraft 1, where he planned and practiced solely for 2v2, and thenwhen it was removed he was like, um i have the mechanics for 1v1 but little of the knowledge and he sucked, and in SC2 as nestea, he has the same knowledge as everyone else (if not more) and still the mechanics to keep up, and so he is doing well. Nestea was not a Terrible BW player, he was a Terrible 1v1 player because he didn't know what to do. It's an inverse to how i'm a terrible BW player, i know what to do from watching so many pro games, i just don't have the mechanics to do most of it.
Pretty much the intelligent and creative SC1 players will do the best in Sc2, where the Sc1 players whose big ability was perfect macro and godly APM will suffer because of the lack of things to do with that APM and more things to do with your mind. they will likely focus on the wrong aspect of the game.
EDIT: not to mention that JulyZerg one of the best SC1 players to switch is struggling to keep up with warcraft 3 players Moon and Lyn, as well as a dozen other B teamers and randoms, because he focused too much on his mechanics in sc2 and he seems to lack the strategy and knowledge of his own race now. (he doesn't spread creep at all, which is integral to zerg)Last edit: 2011-02-02 19:29:27 |
| |
|
| Garrl Scotland. February 02 2011 19:57. Posts 1124 | Profile Blog # |
Pretty much the intelligent and creative SC1 players will do the best in Sc2, where the Sc1 players whose big ability was perfect macro and godly APM will suffer because of the lack of things to do with that APM and more things to do with your mind. they will likely focus on the wrong aspect of the game.
... what? I don't know if you've ever played BW, but it really DOESN'T focus on mechanics as much as you SC2 players think. |
| |
|
| PrinceXizor United States. February 02 2011 20:04. Posts 4861 | Profile Blog # |
On February 02 2011 19:57 Garrl wrote:
Show nested quote +Pretty much the intelligent and creative SC1 players will do the best in Sc2, where the Sc1 players whose big ability was perfect macro and godly APM will suffer because of the lack of things to do with that APM and more things to do with your mind. they will likely focus on the wrong aspect of the game.
... what? I don't know if you've ever played BW, but it really DOESN'T focus on mechanics as much as you SC2 players think.
I have. And i know it's not who can push the most buttons. but because of how developed the strategy and insight in BW is, there were three ways a BW player can stand out and succeed. Mechanics (by being that miniscule bit better edges you out numerous small advantages), Intelligence (making good decision as any given time gives you medium size advantages)
Knowledge (ability to cut a worker, or move it around, or change something slightly knowing the exact effect it will have, as well as knowing best possible options at any given time)
Generally very few players won by mechanics in pro games, mostly the last two that gave BW players their dominance. but the creativity is a trait very few progamers exhibited regularly. and it's creativity thats needed in the formative years of a game, like sc2 is in. thats all, pretty much mechanics and knowledge won't transfer over the same way into SC2, and so intelligence and creativity are the best ways to succeed in sc2 based on the skillsets of BW.
Now this is my opinion, and i'm kind of a big BW fan and been watching pro games for a long time, though not as long as alot of you guys.
EDIT: i always do a very poor job explaining my meaning the first few times i explain something, i can try again if you still don't understand what i'm trying to say.Last edit: 2011-02-02 20:07:58 |
| |
|
| Ryo February 02 2011 20:10. Posts 8411 | Profile Blog # |
On February 02 2011 19:27 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 02 2011 18:25 writer22816 wrote:Skill-wise fOrGG definitely has what it takes to be #1 SC2 considering the current pool of SC2 players but there is also the possibility that + Show Spoiler +SC2 skill ceiling is too low . So I wouldn't be surprised if MVP/IrOn/Zergbong take games off him.
EDIT: not to mention that JulyZerg one of the best SC1 players to switch is struggling to keep up with warcraft 3 players Moon and Lyn, as well as a dozen other B teamers and randoms, because he focused too much on his mechanics in sc2 and he seems to lack the strategy and knowledge of his own race now. (he doesn't spread creep at all, which is integral to zerg)
Er no. July is a TV presenter for OGN, his attention is not fully on practicing. So of course he's going to struggle compared to full-time progamers. Do you seriously think he doesn't know he needs to spread creep etc? Last edit: 2011-02-02 20:17:07 |
| | 영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬. | |
|
|
| Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 Next All |
|
|
|
Store
WCS
