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 DNB   Finland. January 30 2012 06:27. Posts 987
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And now I keep getting "Served timed out"-disconnects every second game... Apparently many others too. Such a good game yet I can't really enjoy it like this.
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 Mithhaike   Singapore. January 30 2012 10:33. Posts 773
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Recently i've just watched LevelCapGaming video on BF3, especially his AN94 / KH2002 videos.

Man that guy's youtube channel is worth watching :D I previously had no idea how do I play burst fire rifles. After watching his playing, i basically copied it wholescale and suddenly KH2002 is my new fav gun haha.

How many of you guys out there were like me who didnt like any of the burst fire mode rifles at all? Watch his KH2002 video and try it out for yourself. I find myself new stuff to enjoy now
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 askTeivospy   January 30 2012 10:57. Posts 1495
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On January 30 2012 10:33 Mithhaike wrote:
Recently i've just watched LevelCapGaming video on BF3, especially his AN94 / KH2002 videos.

Man that guy's youtube channel is worth watching :D I previously had no idea how do I play burst fire rifles. After watching his playing, i basically copied it wholescale and suddenly KH2002 is my new fav gun haha.

How many of you guys out there were like me who didnt like any of the burst fire mode rifles at all? Watch his KH2002 video and try it out for yourself. I find myself new stuff to enjoy now


AN94 fires 2 bullets at the same point, really really good mid to long range weapon especially with heavy barrel (I've outsniped snipers by sidestepping their bullets lol). The best part about AN94 is the fast reload though, but its close range is kinda lackluster imo

Haven't tried the KH2002 yet, i'm slowly getting 5 stars in all assault rifles, L85+Silencer is easily the most OP rifle yet. All you need to do is press LMB and the gun does the rest o_O
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 Phelix   January 30 2012 11:28. Posts 1759
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KH2002 isn't a bad weapon, although sometimes I fire too quickly and it jams. Of course, in some situations, you would rather have the full auto, but it's alright. The iron sights aren't great, and the reload time is pretty long. Just finished unlocking everything for it, though if I were using a burst weapon, I'd rather use the M16A4. As for the AN-94, the bullets do not fire at the same location, it counts as 2 separate bullets (the second bullet fires at a 1200 RPM), and is subject to the standard random deviation. I only use the AN-94 on Tehran Highway because it favors long-range engagements, rather than the CQB on most of the maps.
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 Mithhaike   Singapore. January 30 2012 13:32. Posts 773
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On January 30 2012 10:57 askTeivospy wrote:

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AN94 fires 2 bullets at the same point, really really good mid to long range weapon especially with heavy barrel (I've outsniped snipers by sidestepping their bullets lol). The best part about AN94 is the fast reload though, but its close range is kinda lackluster imo

Haven't tried the KH2002 yet, i'm slowly getting 5 stars in all assault rifles, L85+Silencer is easily the most OP rifle yet. All you need to do is press LMB and the gun does the rest o_O


Yeah according to LevelCapGaming, he did mention AN94 works well with Heavy Barrel, because it apparently reduces bullet spread at long distance 100% for AN94, 50% for the other guns. Not sure if he's pulling the numbers out from thin air, but thats what he claim...and im inclined to agree with personal experience. With heavy barrel its pretty easy to outsnipe snipers especially when their under suppression effect from your more numerous bullets.

KH2002 > AN94 imo, because of how AN94 only shoots 2 bullets at 1time which is pretty slow(usually 3-4burst to kill someone). My finger gets tired after 5games haha. KH2002 3bullets each tap = 2-3 burst to kill someone. its actually pretty fun. I haven't tried M16A4 for the burst fire mode tho.

OH and Burst Fire rifles are for LAZY GUNNING your already encouraged to burst/tap fire all your guns already. with the KH2002/AN94/M16A4, your burst firing regardless anyway. It's a good gun to play when your being Lazy
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 monty   United States. January 30 2012 19:06. Posts 33
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On January 29 2012 19:20 Necrophantasia wrote:
Everyone keeps talking about offensive recon/battle recon to say they contribute their team.

But what exactly is offensive recon?

I gave it a go with the L96 acog 4x, laser sight, straight pull bolt, and the g18 suppressed as a side arm. I started sniping and instead of my usual 200-300m headshots, most of my targets were between 100-150, though surprisingly you can shoot up to 200 relatively easily with 4x :O.

I must be doing it wrong though, I was getting schooled by machine gunners and struggling to break even on KDR. Only when the teams were pretty stacked was I able to pull off some pretty good ratios.

i only use that recon loadout for a fun challenge, but if you want to play serious and contribute then you should just stick to assault/engi. support/recon are way underpowered.

keep practicing though. the skills you learn from cqc sniping will transfer over and make other classes really easy to play.
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  Silidons   United States. January 30 2012 21:19. Posts 2785Profile Blog # 
offensive recon is one of my favorite things to be! what is offensive recon!?

what I do is work my way into the actual enemy base (if playing rush, which is my fav.) by trekking through the outskirts and picking off targets as I see them. Once I'm in, I either: pick off their snipers by sneaking up on them/laying low until I see a shot from somewhere etc; or I set up a good spot in their actual base and pick off people who are trying to defend the objective.
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 QuanticHawk   United States. January 30 2012 22:57. Posts 21210
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On January 29 2012 23:07 Candadar wrote:

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It has many connotations.

Some mean going up with your team with a shotgun or some other general weapon and using your motion sensor and whatnot to support your team as you push. I generally just stay back 50-100m with a low power scope and pick off people, however.


it c an be this, or with a shotty or smg. Personally, I prefer smg because you can adapt to a lot of situations, but this works too if you're really sharp at aiming. You're just boned like 75% of the time if someone flanks you

on that note, what are the general opinions of the unlockable all class smgs??? Like what is the best, etc.
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 Mithhaike   Singapore. January 30 2012 23:36. Posts 773
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On January 30 2012 22:57 Hawk wrote:

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it c an be this, or with a shotty or smg. Personally, I prefer smg because you can adapt to a lot of situations, but this works too if you're really sharp at aiming. You're just boned like 75% of the time if someone flanks you

on that note, what are the general opinions of the unlockable all class smgs??? Like what is the best, etc.



AS VAL is the best. Bar none.
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 Zen5034   United States. January 30 2012 23:48. Posts 268
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I would like the AS VAL more if the clip wasn't so damn small.. but then again, it would be OP if not. The PDW-R and P-90 are identical to me. Some people seem to be favoring the MP7 if you read a couple pages back. Personally, if I'm not using the AS VAL then I'm rolling with the PP-19.
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 Rob28   Canada. January 31 2012 00:51. Posts 705
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On January 30 2012 22:57 Hawk wrote:
on that note, what are the general opinions of the unlockable all class smgs??? Like what is the best, etc.



They're all pretty different, and have strengths that play to different styles. With PDWs, I think it's a personal preference thing... there's not really a "better than all other PDW" in my opinion.

For instance, many guys swear by the VAL, but I hate it. Too inaccurate at range, too small a clip for my tastes. Yeah, the built in silencer is cool, but all PDWs have unlockable silencers anyways. As a personal favourite, I take the PP-19 and the PDW-R whenever I go PDW (which is almost always while playing Recon). My next down the list is probably the UMP.
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 Pippi   Sweden. January 31 2012 01:11. Posts 457
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On January 30 2012 19:06 monty wrote:

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i only use that recon loadout for a fun challenge, but if you want to play serious and contribute then you should just stick to assault/engi. support/recon are way underpowered.



Recon is UP on public servers when you hide in a bush 500 m away. In competetive play you almost always need 1 recon for MAV and radioB. Recon also do good to shut down paths in rush (or guard objectives from beeing armed or defused).
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 Thezzy   Netherlands. January 31 2012 01:38. Posts 609
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On January 30 2012 13:32 Mithhaike wrote:

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Yeah according to LevelCapGaming, he did mention AN94 works well with Heavy Barrel, because it apparently reduces bullet spread at long distance 100% for AN94, 50% for the other guns. Not sure if he's pulling the numbers out from thin air, but thats what he claim...and im inclined to agree with personal experience.


This is accurate, the Heavy Barrel attachment will reduce bullet spread for the first shot by 100% for the G3A3 and AN-94, while it is 50% for all the other guns. However, it also doubles the subsequent spread increase per shot, against a 50% increase for the other guns. [source]

The main advantage of the AN-94 is that it has a burst RoF of 1200 RPM and zero bullet spread for the first shot, the two bullets are nearly instant and with a good scope it will murder anyone that stands still for more than a split second.
Any scope glint can nearly give you a free kill if you don't get sniped yourself.
If you can learn to manage burst fire and clicking fast in close quarters, the AN-94 becomes a beast.

The KH-2002 is a decent weapon as well but it doesn't get the spread reduction as much as the AN-94.
However, the M16A4 (burst version) is better stat-wise in every aspect than the KH-2002 except vertical recoil (0.2 vs 0.25 for the M16).
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 Rob28   Canada. January 31 2012 02:17. Posts 705
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On January 31 2012 01:38 Thezzy wrote:

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This is accurate, the Heavy Barrel attachment will reduce bullet spread for the first shot by 100% for the G3A3 and AN-94, while it is 50% for all the other guns. However, it also doubles the subsequent spread increase per shot, against a 50% increase for the other guns. [source]

The main advantage of the AN-94 is that it has a burst RoF of 1200 RPM and zero bullet spread for the first shot, the two bullets are nearly instant and with a good scope it will murder anyone that stands still for more than a split second.
Any scope glint can nearly give you a free kill if you don't get sniped yourself.
If you can learn to manage burst fire and clicking fast in close quarters, the AN-94 becomes a beast.

The KH-2002 is a decent weapon as well but it doesn't get the spread reduction as much as the AN-94.
However, the M16A4 (burst version) is better stat-wise in every aspect than the KH-2002 except vertical recoil (0.2 vs 0.25 for the M16).


So is the moral of the story here that you want to be using heavy barrel for burst guns? Because from what I've seen in forums and such, most players are of the mindset that heavy barrel is a useless attachment... I guess this isn't the case for bust guns, no?
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 IveReturned   Turkey. January 31 2012 02:21. Posts 241
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Hey guys is there anyone who is a jet pilot? I would like to learn about your tactics. Maybe practise together if youre on europe.
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 askTeivospy   January 31 2012 02:42. Posts 1495
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I posted a link to a jet tutorial thread somewhere on previous page i think, you can watch those if you want


On January 31 2012 02:17 Rob28 wrote:

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So is the moral of the story here that you want to be using heavy barrel for burst guns? Because from what I've seen in forums and such, most players are of the mindset that heavy barrel is a useless attachment... I guess this isn't the case for bust guns, no?


AN94 fires at 1200 RPM while only in burst mode, so the first bullet and second bullet travel close together. With heavy barrel, the two bullets essentially are ontop of each other so you get double damage. That makes it the best assault rifle for mid to long range from my personal experience. Unfortunately, its a let down at short to mid range compared to other rifles imo

I'm not sure about any other rifles in burst mode, but I doubt they act like that since AN94 is the only one with a high RPM I believe
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 Necrophantasia   Japan. January 31 2012 02:44. Posts 299
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On January 31 2012 01:11 Pippi wrote:

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Recon is UP on public servers when you hide in a bush 500 m away. In competetive play you almost always need 1 recon for MAV and radioB. Recon also do good to shut down paths in rush (or guard objectives from beeing armed or defused).


How does recon shut down paths?

Just bunny hop your way down the lane, and you will never die. They can't shut down mcoms either, just keep moving side to side while arming, and lol your way to victory.

Seriously, recon is the worst kit in the game and it's borderline useless. I don't know what draws me to it, but I keep subjecting myself to this torture. I could be doing so much better and my spm could be so much higher, but I still keep playing recon. I gotta wonder why I do it .
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 Roggay   Switzerland. January 31 2012 02:59. Posts 4757
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On January 31 2012 02:44 Necrophantasia wrote:

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How does recon shut down paths?

Just bunny hop your way down the lane, and you will never die. They can't shut down mcoms either, just keep moving side to side while arming, and lol your way to victory.

Seriously, recon is the worst kit in the game and it's borderline useless. I don't know what draws me to it, but I keep subjecting myself to this torture. I could be doing so much better and my spm could be so much higher, but I still keep playing recon. I gotta wonder why I do it .

Because getting one shot kills feels so much more rewarding.
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 IveReturned   Turkey. January 31 2012 03:05. Posts 241
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On January 31 2012 02:59 Roggay wrote:

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Because getting one shot kills feels so much more rewarding.


Soflam is awesome for the jets. I wonder why people don't use soflam much.
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 Assault_1   Canada. January 31 2012 03:08. Posts 1347
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On January 31 2012 03:05 IveReturned wrote:

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Soflam is awesome for the jets. I wonder why people don't use soflam much.

because the recon gets no enjoyment out of it
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