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| DaProfessor United States. February 07 2011 13:04. Posts 11 | Profile # |
| I bought the Rosewill mechanical keyboard off Newegg, which has blue switches, and I love it. They do click quite loudly but I love the feel of them, I love the sound letting me know when I have hit the key. Very nice build quality, I believe it's actually a Filco board underneath. |
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| eltese Sweden. February 07 2011 22:56. Posts 368 | Profile # |
I'm seriously considering buying a mechanical keyboard since the keyboard I use now is neither very comfortable to play starcraft on, nor does it have a remarkable life span. Link to my current keyboard :http://www.maxfps.se/product_view.aspx?productid=1920
Now I've been eyeing the Steelseries 6gv2 , Razer BlackWidow and Zowie Celeritas. Since I know virtually nothing about mechanical keyboards I'd appreciate any advice.
Thank you. |
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| Noxie United States. February 07 2011 23:27. Posts 2175 | Profile Blog # |
I would recommend the 6gv2, I think its the most like a "normal" keyboard setup and the black switches feel most like a standard membrane keyboard.
The blackwidow is also nice, but a bunch of flashy lights are not very amusing for me. I don't know much about the Celeritas, maybe lookup a comparison vid. |
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| eltese Sweden. February 07 2011 23:37. Posts 368 | Profile # |
Well since you brought it up I should mention that I don't care really for flashy lights and that stuff. I don't mind it but it's not something I feel gives the keyboard an edge over other keyboards.
Also I have no need for headphones I/O nor the USB port.
Thanks for the tip ! The 6gv2 seems to be really really nice. |
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| vyyye Sweden. February 08 2011 00:41. Posts 3905 | Profile # |
On February 07 2011 23:37 eltese wrote:
Well since you brought it up I should mention that I don't care really for flashy lights and that stuff. I don't mind it but it's not something I feel gives the keyboard an edge over other keyboards.
Also I have no need for headphones I/O nor the USB port.
Thanks for the tip ! The 6gv2 seems to be really really nice.
Read the thread about mechanical keyboards over at Overclock to get a better idea of what you're looking at. Just google "Mechanical keyboard guide", should be at the top of the list.
You really don't want to look at a keyboard and think "It's mechanical, it's good", while partially true some switches are better suited for X, and others for Y.
I realize I'm being vague but it comes down to opinion, the 6GV2 has black switches for example. Read up on it, see if it's good for you. If it sounds like something you wouldn't like the Blackwidow has blue switches I believe, which is a polar opposite.
Guess I'm trying to say you want to make sure the 6GV2 is for you before buying it on impulse "just because it's popular and mechanical". I was going to buy it, but after reading up on it I realized it wasn't for me and went for a Filco with browns which suits me perfectly. |
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| zokj Canada. February 08 2011 01:14. Posts 135 | Profile # |
I think to some extent you have to jump in and commit to the idea that you want an expensive keyboard. What I mean by this is that there's a limited amount of info you can gather and use toward your decision so if you're committed to the idea there isn't a necessarily bad choice.
I recently picked up a 6vg2. I like it, its a huge improvement over what I was using before. But I'm still curious as to what brown switches or blue for that matter feel like, and over the years I'm sure I'll get a 2nd or 3rd mechanical keyboard. Knowing this I was pretty confident in my purchase because I'm not trying to find the absolute best keyboard for me - because I can't until I practice with them and so on.
I think I have this perspective because I play guitar. Any electric guitar player will tell you that over the years they've spent money on pedals, or strings or new amps here and there. Tastes and preferences change, styles change and as you know more your perspective will change.
I doubt any of the keyboards being discussed are unplayable. Pick one that meets most of your needs, price point, and in a year you'll have a much better perspective. If you know that you want to play with a mechanical keyboard for the rest of your days then no reason to approach your 1st as if its your last. |
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 EliteReplay Dominican Republic. February 08 2011 01:31. Posts 913 | Profile Blog # |
On February 04 2011 23:01 OneofDays wrote:
I think it's really a matter of preference, I had a blackwidow but I didnt't like it. I'm happy with my 6gv2 or now but if price is not a problem. Filco all the way...
Question why didnt u like the Blackwidow? as i see the Razer looks better than the 6gv2
the last one looks like a normal keyboard just that cost 100us dollar while razer looks amazing
have that light with the logo and is cheaper...
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| EliteReplay Dominican Republic. February 08 2011 01:36. Posts 913 | Profile Blog # |
On February 06 2011 22:19 motiust wrote:Hello All, I have both the Steelseries(black switch) 6Gv2 and the Razer Blackwidow (blue switch) and here are my findings... 6Gv2: I think, this keyboard is is great for FPS or MMO games, because of the constant spamming of the AWSD and 1234 keys, it is good to NOT have the blue's tactile click, however the keyboard layout and the looks is VERY boring i mean cmon this thing looks exactly the same as the $5 generic no brands  i also notice the prints comes off quite quickly.. Razer Blackwidow Razer has a long history of making crap keyboards, however the blackwidow product line has redeemed its bad reputations, guys, this keyboard actually looks and feels pretty good and i think this keyboard is best for any RTS games, i'd played starcraft with the 6Gv2 and i notice i'd often hit the wrong keys either because the keys are too heavy and or i had to press the key all the way down for me to confirm key register mentally but i know the key registers about half way. however the blue switch blackwidow is totally the opposite, keys are light and i've made less errors because of it and tactile clicks helps too, noticed an APM gain. This keyboard looks WAY better then the 6Gv2 by far, quality according to the guys at geekhacks, this one are topnotch altho i personally think that the 6Gv2 would last long than the blackwidow lol at the end of the day we shouldn't really care because the key switches are all from Cherry anyways. TL;DR- FPS and MMO games, SteelSeries 6Gv2, 7G is for the rich kids that likes short backspace keys lol RTS games: Razer Blackwidow, or any other blue switches If anyone has Filco Brown please post your experiece and Cherry Brown experience in general tyvm. Cheers
Yeah i think about the razer blackwidow its
1- looks better
2- have a logo with light
3- cheaper
4- razer is not as bad as ppl may think
5- its Blue cherry tactyble audible so better than black imo
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| eltese Sweden. February 08 2011 01:44. Posts 368 | Profile # |
Thanks for the replies  Ah ye olde "to lazy to google" has once again been my folly.
Thanks though, reading through the guide as we speak. |
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| Marcus420 Canada. February 08 2011 02:28. Posts 1828 | Profile # |
On February 08 2011 01:36 2GRe-Play- wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 06 2011 22:19 motiust wrote:Hello All, I have both the Steelseries(black switch) 6Gv2 and the Razer Blackwidow (blue switch) and here are my findings... 6Gv2: I think, this keyboard is is great for FPS or MMO games, because of the constant spamming of the AWSD and 1234 keys, it is good to NOT have the blue's tactile click, however the keyboard layout and the looks is VERY boring i mean cmon this thing looks exactly the same as the $5 generic no brands i also notice the prints comes off quite quickly.. Razer Blackwidow Razer has a long history of making crap keyboards, however the blackwidow product line has redeemed its bad reputations, guys, this keyboard actually looks and feels pretty good and i think this keyboard is best for any RTS games, i'd played starcraft with the 6Gv2 and i notice i'd often hit the wrong keys either because the keys are too heavy and or i had to press the key all the way down for me to confirm key register mentally but i know the key registers about half way. however the blue switch blackwidow is totally the opposite, keys are light and i've made less errors because of it and tactile clicks helps too, noticed an APM gain. This keyboard looks WAY better then the 6Gv2 by far, quality according to the guys at geekhacks, this one are topnotch altho i personally think that the 6Gv2 would last long than the blackwidow lol at the end of the day we shouldn't really care because the key switches are all from Cherry anyways. TL;DR- FPS and MMO games, SteelSeries 6Gv2, 7G is for the rich kids that likes short backspace keys lol RTS games: Razer Blackwidow, or any other blue switches If anyone has Filco Brown please post your experiece and Cherry Brown experience in general tyvm. Cheers
Yeah i think about the razer blackwidow its 1- looks better 2- have a logo with light 3- cheaper 4- razer is not as bad as ppl may think 5- its Blue cherry tactyble audible so better than black imo
1. Looks is subjective, that is an opinion
2. Flashy bullshit doesnt sell a keyboard.
3. Ok.
4. Razer is trash, horrible drivers, firmware and customer support.
5. switches comes down to preference, id say most people would feel very happy with cherry browns. Again, opinion. |
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| EliteReplay Dominican Republic. February 08 2011 03:46. Posts 913 | Profile Blog # |
+ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler +
On February 08 2011 02:28 Marcus420 wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 08 2011 01:36 2GRe-Play- wrote:
On February 06 2011 22:19 motiust wrote:Hello All, I have both the Steelseries(black switch) 6Gv2 and the Razer Blackwidow (blue switch) and here are my findings... 6Gv2: I think, this keyboard is is great for FPS or MMO games, because of the constant spamming of the AWSD and 1234 keys, it is good to NOT have the blue's tactile click, however the keyboard layout and the looks is VERY boring i mean cmon this thing looks exactly the same as the $5 generic no brands i also notice the prints comes off quite quickly.. Razer Blackwidow Razer has a long history of making crap keyboards, however the blackwidow product line has redeemed its bad reputations, guys, this keyboard actually looks and feels pretty good and i think this keyboard is best for any RTS games, i'd played starcraft with the 6Gv2 and i notice i'd often hit the wrong keys either because the keys are too heavy and or i had to press the key all the way down for me to confirm key register mentally but i know the key registers about half way. however the blue switch blackwidow is totally the opposite, keys are light and i've made less errors because of it and tactile clicks helps too, noticed an APM gain. This keyboard looks WAY better then the 6Gv2 by far, quality according to the guys at geekhacks, this one are topnotch altho i personally think that the 6Gv2 would last long than the blackwidow lol at the end of the day we shouldn't really care because the key switches are all from Cherry anyways. TL;DR- FPS and MMO games, SteelSeries 6Gv2, 7G is for the rich kids that likes short backspace keys lol RTS games: Razer Blackwidow, or any other blue switches If anyone has Filco Brown please post your experiece and Cherry Brown experience in general tyvm. Cheers
Yeah i think about the razer blackwidow its 1- looks better 2- have a logo with light 3- cheaper 4- razer is not as bad as ppl may think 5- its Blue cherry tactyble audible so better than black imo
1. Looks is subjective, that is an opinion
2. Flashy bullshit doesnt sell a keyboard.
3. Ok.
4. Razer is trash, horrible drivers, firmware and customer support.
5. switches comes down to preference, id say most people would feel very happy with cherry browns. Again, opinion.
1- Really looks better, the Steelseries just looks like a 5US dollar keyboard
2- Its sell because besides u are having a keyboard and u have something extra.
3- OK
4- ARE U SERIOUS? I have a Razer Deathadder almost 1year its still working like the first day.
5- Yes, but Blue ones are GOOD
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| Marcus420 Canada. February 08 2011 03:52. Posts 1828 | Profile # |
On February 08 2011 03:46 2GRe-Play- wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On February 08 2011 02:28 Marcus420 wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 08 2011 01:36 2GRe-Play- wrote:
On February 06 2011 22:19 motiust wrote:Hello All, I have both the Steelseries(black switch) 6Gv2 and the Razer Blackwidow (blue switch) and here are my findings... 6Gv2: I think, this keyboard is is great for FPS or MMO games, because of the constant spamming of the AWSD and 1234 keys, it is good to NOT have the blue's tactile click, however the keyboard layout and the looks is VERY boring i mean cmon this thing looks exactly the same as the $5 generic no brands i also notice the prints comes off quite quickly.. Razer Blackwidow Razer has a long history of making crap keyboards, however the blackwidow product line has redeemed its bad reputations, guys, this keyboard actually looks and feels pretty good and i think this keyboard is best for any RTS games, i'd played starcraft with the 6Gv2 and i notice i'd often hit the wrong keys either because the keys are too heavy and or i had to press the key all the way down for me to confirm key register mentally but i know the key registers about half way. however the blue switch blackwidow is totally the opposite, keys are light and i've made less errors because of it and tactile clicks helps too, noticed an APM gain. This keyboard looks WAY better then the 6Gv2 by far, quality according to the guys at geekhacks, this one are topnotch altho i personally think that the 6Gv2 would last long than the blackwidow lol at the end of the day we shouldn't really care because the key switches are all from Cherry anyways. TL;DR- FPS and MMO games, SteelSeries 6Gv2, 7G is for the rich kids that likes short backspace keys lol RTS games: Razer Blackwidow, or any other blue switches If anyone has Filco Brown please post your experiece and Cherry Brown experience in general tyvm. Cheers
Yeah i think about the razer blackwidow its 1- looks better 2- have a logo with light 3- cheaper 4- razer is not as bad as ppl may think 5- its Blue cherry tactyble audible so better than black imo 1. Looks is subjective, that is an opinion 2. Flashy bullshit doesnt sell a keyboard. 3. Ok. 4. Razer is trash, horrible drivers, firmware and customer support. 5. switches comes down to preference, id say most people would feel very happy with cherry browns. Again, opinion. 1- Really looks better, the Steelseries just looks like a 5US dollar keyboard 2- Its sell because besides u are having a keyboard u have something else. 3- OK 4- ARE U SERIOUS? I have a Razer Deathadder almost 1year its still working like the first day. 5- Yes, but Blue ones are GOOD
Sure, i would agree their older products are MUCH higher quality. I have a diamondback that still works till today. Since then, they have gone way, WAY down hill in terms of quality. Mostly from personal experience and from others i have read about. Mostly in the mouse dept.
I bought a Razer imperator, and i know it is working because it will turn on sometimes at random times. But the sensor and lights on it will never work when i initially turn on the computer, but the buttons still work, Therefore its a broken mouse. I blame drivers and firmware.
Razer tech support did not help at all; only giving generic mouse troubleshooting tips. Thanks razer.
black and brown are good too, what is your point?Last edit: 2011-02-08 03:53:50 |
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| Megaliskuu United States. February 08 2011 03:57. Posts 5015 | Profile Blog # |
Razer Mice>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Razer Keyboards
Also, I might have made this suggestion earlier, but if you're on a budget, check out the ione scorpius M10, it has blue switches and its relatively cheap. However its basically a pot luck and chances of it being DOA are 50/50, so you might have to RMA it, as I did. I'm lovin it though ^^.Last edit: 2011-02-08 03:57:48 |
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| Reno(TE) United Kingdom. February 08 2011 04:28. Posts 423 | Profile Blog # |
| I have a black widow and the only issue i have is the additional macro keys which will mess you mentally with keyboard layout. I am getting used to it though and the keyboard is great overall! |
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| Cividari Sweden. February 08 2011 05:38. Posts 6 | Profile # |
I've been looking for a mechanical keyboard to get myself as a birthday present. Since I need a Swedish layout my options seem quite slim. What I found was this:
-steelseries 6gv2
-razer black widow
-filco majestouch
-zowie celeritas
The 6gv2 I didn't really like the layout on, the black widow I didn't like the looks as well as I don't like those macro keys. The celeritas I couldn't even find a picture of with the swe layout so that was a no go. The filco though seems pretty much perfect so thats what I ended up ordering, only downside is it ended up costing more than twice as much as the 6gv2 I was originally looking at. |
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| explicit February 08 2011 05:40. Posts 52 | Profile # |
Either get a filco or wait for leopolds, they have a metal mounting and superior build quality. Razer is ok-ish, but the startrek font/lights and overall design seems to have been modelled after the throwing knives/stars batman used.
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| Jago Finland. February 08 2011 05:44. Posts 382 | Profile # |
On February 08 2011 05:38 Cividari wrote:
The 6gv2 I didn't really like the layout on, the black widow I didn't like the looks as well as I don't like those macro keys. The celeritas I couldn't even find a picture of with the swe layout so that was a no go. The filco though seems pretty much perfect so thats what I ended up ordering, only downside is it ended up costing more than twice as much as the 6gv2 I was originally looking at.
Err what? You look at the regular 105 key version of the celeritas in whatever language and mentally project ö, ä, å, and such to the appropriate places. A 105 keyboard keyboard in any given language is a 105 key keyboard in any given language. Assuming the same amount of keys and the same language, the layout is going to be 100% the same. |
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| Cividari Sweden. February 08 2011 05:54. Posts 6 | Profile # |
On February 08 2011 05:44 Jago wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 08 2011 05:38 Cividari wrote:
The 6gv2 I didn't really like the layout on, the black widow I didn't like the looks as well as I don't like those macro keys. The celeritas I couldn't even find a picture of with the swe layout so that was a no go. The filco though seems pretty much perfect so thats what I ended up ordering, only downside is it ended up costing more than twice as much as the 6gv2 I was originally looking at.
Err what? You look at the regular 105 key version of the celeritas in whatever language and mentally project ö, ä, å, and such to the appropriate places. A 105 keyboard keyboard in any given language is a 105 key keyboard in any given language. Assuming the same amount of keys and the same language, the layout is going to be 100% the same.
Didn't realize this, on the store pages I only saw images with the strange upside down new line key (US layout?) and then tried to find one with a Swedish layout specifically, didn't think of just looking for a keyboard with just the same layout. Will keep that in mind in the future though. Thanks! |
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| vyyye Sweden. February 08 2011 06:20. Posts 3905 | Profile # |
On February 08 2011 05:44 Jago wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 08 2011 05:38 Cividari wrote:
The 6gv2 I didn't really like the layout on, the black widow I didn't like the looks as well as I don't like those macro keys. The celeritas I couldn't even find a picture of with the swe layout so that was a no go. The filco though seems pretty much perfect so thats what I ended up ordering, only downside is it ended up costing more than twice as much as the 6gv2 I was originally looking at.
Err what? You look at the regular 105 key version of the celeritas in whatever language and mentally project ö, ä, å, and such to the appropriate places. A 105 keyboard keyboard in any given language is a 105 key keyboard in any given language. Assuming the same amount of keys and the same language, the layout is going to be 100% the same.
I bought a U.S edition Filco Tenkeyless and while everything is there.. the key next to the left shift isn't. Instead I have a large shift key. Either I'm being retarded and not finding it or it just isn't on the keyboard.
If someone knows where the shit it is, please do call me dumb and tell me where it is :/ |
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| Herpadurr Monaco. February 08 2011 06:43. Posts 151 | Profile # |
On February 08 2011 06:20 vyyye wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 08 2011 05:44 Jago wrote:
On February 08 2011 05:38 Cividari wrote:
The 6gv2 I didn't really like the layout on, the black widow I didn't like the looks as well as I don't like those macro keys. The celeritas I couldn't even find a picture of with the swe layout so that was a no go. The filco though seems pretty much perfect so thats what I ended up ordering, only downside is it ended up costing more than twice as much as the 6gv2 I was originally looking at.
Err what? You look at the regular 105 key version of the celeritas in whatever language and mentally project ö, ä, å, and such to the appropriate places. A 105 keyboard keyboard in any given language is a 105 key keyboard in any given language. Assuming the same amount of keys and the same language, the layout is going to be 100% the same.
I bought a U.S edition Filco Tenkeyless and while everything is there.. the key next to the left shift isn't. Instead I have a large shift key. Either I'm being retarded and not finding it or it just isn't on the keyboard. If someone knows where the shit it is, please do call me dumb and tell me where it is :/
That's because the US-Layout is 104 key.
Functionally it's the one below backspace. |
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