Simple Questions Simple Answers - Page 682

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On August 03 2012 04:39 TheExodus wrote:


You can wall natural, although I typo'd about the gateways. An extra pylon is all that's needed. Below White-Ra demonstrates this against a 7-pool, but it's doable against a 6-pool as well (you have enough minerals to get the pylon up just in time).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JsA_PIk8Cq4#!

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On August 03 2012 09:32 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
In general, how does zerg hold attacks?
I always thought the zerg needed to see the attack coming well in advance and prepare specifically for it, but sometimes it seems like zerg players have blanket strategies that can hold most attacks, barring specific, very powerful attacks, like immortal all-ins. Also, it has seemed that certain attacks can be held just by reacting as soon as you see the attack rolling out.
I am by no means a good zerg player, though, so I'm probably screwing this up horribly, but either way, I have been seeking to learn zerg for ages, but the unpredictability of the lower leagues confounds me. I know I can get out of them just through mechanics, but getting smashed by a simple "I feel like moving out right about now" bio attack while I was droning or dying to a 2 colossus push for the uptenth time tells me that strategy is also something I need.

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On August 03 2012 21:28 Oatsboats wrote:
Does random team mmr effect your 1v1 mmr at all?

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On August 03 2012 21:28 Oatsboats wrote:
Does random team mmr effect your 1v1 mmr at all?

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On August 03 2012 22:04 Bojas wrote:
I'm not sure if this belongs here:

But I remember watching streams like 1-2 months after release when I just started playing. I was watching a terran player who made a proxy barracks with his scouting scvs at like 5:45 (don't know timing, the in game clock was not invented yet) so he could save a mule and scout using a floating barracks instead. I feel this could be good versus zergs so you can scout without using hellions. But then I figured why do the pros not do this?

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On August 03 2012 22:20 Maxamix wrote:



A LOT of things changed since that era, from barrac requirement (you did not need a supply depot back then) to the build time of a barrack, the metagame and everything. The main thing why this is not used anymore is because you lose more with that scout than with your scan. Here is the math

Scan = delay mining by 200 minerals
Barrack = cost 150 minerals, + downtime of the building SCV (which has to proxy the said rax). The build time is about a minute game time, and with perfect saturation, 1 gathere is 40 mins a minute. You also have the fact that you might lose the barrack to queen's, stalkers, marines...

All in all i think the scan is a better option for scouting

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On August 03 2012 22:35 Bojas wrote:

Well yeah but a mule can mine more than 200 minerals right? And you can build this instead of hellions and still get a good scout off. Heck I'd argue that you can see way more with a barracks than you can with a scan.

So that's 190 minerals spent for the barracks which you can afford losing since it's worth less than a scan. It would be bad to lose it versus a patrolling ling when it's getting build. I think you can build it somewhere safe where no patrol would come on most maps though, if it's possible with pylons then why not with a barracks.

Edit: just tested it- a mule on the closest patch on shakuras mines 270 minerals.

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On August 03 2012 22:54 Maxamix wrote:


Yeah but a mule only fasten mining, hence you do not lose any minerals if you use a scan, you just delay their acquisition. As for the barrack, if you lose the barrack (which would certainly happen @ 5:45 min game time, then you lose the 150 minerals and you have a delay of mining that will be about 2 min (construction + travelling time) which end up at about 80 mins. So it's a delay of 270 minerals VS most likely loosing the barrack (150) + a delay of +-80 minerals. In addition, at high level, zerg players scout all over the map with their lings so you also have a chance of losing the said SCV + barrack while it's building.

I agree that purely math based, it could look viable, but it's a high risk for not a lot of reward IMO.

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On August 05 2012 00:27 gabsonuro wrote:
Ive been watching alot of mma and select replays/streams, and ive noticed they hotleu everything but their factories. Why is this? Do they have some button assigned like warpgate such as when you press a button it selects all factories?

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On August 03 2012 13:12 Mavvie wrote:

I felt the same was as you when I was lower down, but with experience and better macro, you'll smile when some bronzie does a 12 minute 2 collosus push with a small gateway army...and you are at 200/200 with roach/ling.
ZvT, 6 queens + reactive lings can hold most all-ins that hit before lair tech, but don't quote me on this I'm terribad vs Terran

ZvP is all a game of figuring out what your opponent's doing. Scout for an FFE, if that happens then do the stephano-style roach max (tons of TL guides on the subject). If he goes for 1base shenanigans and doesn't expand by 6:00, I'd make lings + spines and you SHOULD hold. Always get gas against 1 base Protoss

Honestly what got me from bronze to diamond was reading all the Zerg guides, and trying to memorize scouting patterns! A Protoss who takes 3 gas before 6:30 or 7:00 is usually going stargate/DT, 2 gas is a gateway all in or, 4 is either double stargate or some robo expand or all in.

There's simple things like this for all matchups! It's a memorization game and knowing the proper reaction! No gas at natural by 6:30? Roach warren + evo chamber NOW
Just read guides util you remember them! Make sure to play a lot too, and you'll get much more comfortable in all matchups.

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