EDT 23:46 CEST 05:46 KST 12:46

Streams: 107 live
32904 total viewers

Active: 6767
Pizza Meter
[WCS KR] Code S Recap/Code…
[WCS AM] Ro16 Group B Prev…
WCS AM - Ro16 Interviews a…
AMD Premier League S1 Gran…
[WCS KR] Semis: Soulkey vs…
LGD.cn and RaTtLeSnAkE Adv…
GomTV: about the gamespeed…
Papa John's explores EG, L…
TeamLiquid Map Contest Fin…
Liquid wins the Curse Invi…
mousesports defeats DD.Dot…
Dragon joins Clarity Gaming
New Get 50% off Papa Joh…
TL Advertising Features
New XBOX reveal May 21st
[TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Gam…
Anime Discussion Thread
[TV] Star Trek: Deep Spa…
Daft Punk: Random Access…
Gay Starcraft Players
DC LAN #12
WCS American Finals Barcra…
Cybercraft NYC HoTS Tourna…
Calgary Barcraft - MLG Spr…
The mOOnGLaDe Fanclub!
The Crank Fanclub
[Stream] RUSethN - high le…
[Stream] VaPox
Windows 8...should I upgra…
Recent Twitch.TV iPhone Up…
Simple Questions Simple An…
Razer Abyssus Left Click K…
Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lio…
Never Miss An Inject? W…
[Interview] Code S Ro4 D…
Official State of the Ga…
Meta - Official discussi…
Update on Papa John's ES…
SC2 General Discussion &…
[WCS AM] RO16 Group B Prem…
[Code A] Ro24 Day 2 2013 W…
[Code S] Placement Matches…
North American Star Cup ($…
[CSL] Spring Playoffs Ro4 …
The HotS Zerg Help Me Thread
The HotS Protoss Help Me T…
H PvZ midgame
[G] NaNiwa's PvZ (vs HyuN)…
[G] Fleet Keys - Refined H…
[M] (4v4) ESV Retribution
[D] Favorite Maps that Did…
Work In Progress Melee Maps
[M] (4) TPW Strangewood Mire
TeamLiquid Map Contest Fin…
General Discussion
The new report system in…
Dota 2 QQ thread
Dota 2 Super League Tour…
LGD.cn and RaTtLeSnAkE A…
TL's Item Trading Thread.
[TPL S5] Demon Edge Cup
Sticky Flames Weekly Dota …
Liquid Pasture Community L…
[The International] Easter…
Dota 2 General LR thread
Why Pro Team Don't Do This??
Current DotA2 Competitive …
Let's talk Storm Spirit
On the stomping of pubs
A solid line-up for low lv…
DES Sonic Interview 5/18…
[D] New BW Server
Pucca Comeback?
Op TeamLiquid @ iCCup
SC2 Player looking to le…
snipealots 24/7 afreeca …
D Ranks Teamleague Season 4
[GC S3] Gambit's Cup Semif…
C Ranks Teamleague Season 1
[TLS2] Qualifier #4
Gem League II
Practice Partner Thread
Challenger map on Starcraf…
Simple Questions, Simple A…
Increasing APM/EAPM
FINALLY! - The 2013 NHL …
NBA Playoffs 2013
UFC 160: Velasquez vs Bi…
Tera MMORPG
RollPlay -- D&D Campaign…
[Patch 3.07: Nerf Everythi…
The Shikyo Memorial for QQ…
[LoL Stream] SmashGizmo
[D] Pro Scene Evolution
[LCS] All-Star Tournament
[OGN] Olympus The Champion…
[Renekton Guide] SoloRenek…
[Champion] Fiora
[Champion] Katarina
The: What is my item worth?
D3 Hardcore Community
Wizard builds /discussions
Carnival Cruise Mafia
[M][N] Les Mafia
Chinese Grammar Micro Mafi…
Questions & Answers
The 2013 Weightlifting Pro…
Running Thread
Leta - Movie
Michael - skyline
Anytime - Beast
By.Hero - Shuttle
Anytime - Pusan

Website Feedback

Closed Threads

IRC Chat
irc.quakenet.org #teamliquid

IRC Web Client

TeamSpeak 3 (75 users)

E-stars Seoul pulls out Blizzard games - Page 2

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 All
 
 PhiliBiRD   United States. March 03 2011 03:10. Posts 2634
Profile # 
wow this is ridiculous.

bizz either will take care of this or has bigger plans already regardless
Tell no secrets, show no weakness.
Old Post

 
 Al Bundy   March 03 2011 03:17. Posts 7173
Profile # 
From an objective point of view, not having BW in a korean esports event is just depressing. Gloomy days indeed

edit; happy birthday to PhiliBiRD .
Last edit: 2011-03-03 03:18:23
o choro é livre
Old Post

 
 Kibibit   United States. March 03 2011 04:05. Posts 1363
Profile Blog # 
Again, Le sigh.
R.I.P. 우정호 || Do probes dream of psionic sheep?
Old Post

 
 purecarnagge   March 03 2011 04:13. Posts 708
Profile # 
Here I have a product, why don't you just buy it... then make money off of it and never give me a dime. You really think i'm going to continue to allow you to do that...

only if i'm a scrub without a backbone. KESPA is going to get screwed so badly at trial it won't matter. Hell most gamers don't even like KESPA from what the pro's have said.
Old Post

 
 awu25   United States. March 03 2011 04:28. Posts 1999
Profile # 

On March 03 2011 04:13 purecarnagge wrote:
Here I have a product, why don't you just buy it... then make money off of it and never give me a dime. You really think i'm going to continue to allow you to do that...

only if i'm a scrub without a backbone. KESPA is going to get screwed so badly at trial it won't matter. Hell most gamers don't even like KESPA from what the pro's have said.

it was more like, here i have a product, why don't you just buy it... then you make a little money out of it so we don't really care since it's chump change
10 years later: oh shit you're making a lot of money and refusing to give us a dime
 
Old Post

 
 Megaliskuu   United States. March 03 2011 04:32. Posts 5015
Profile Blog # 
Blizzard didn't give a shit about the BW proscene for 9 years, then all this crap starts and tourneys are being ruined.

As long as MSL/OSL/PL stay alive I won't be bothered.
Last edit: 2011-03-03 04:32:38
aka Megalisk, TheMuTaL|BW>Everything|Add me on KR TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)
Old Post

 
 goiflin   Canada. March 03 2011 04:32. Posts 1019
Profile Blog # 

On March 03 2011 02:30 Garnet wrote:
Only CS? why do they think this will work?


What do you want them to do? Pick a new RTS and train a bunch of players to play entertaining games?

CS is the only thing they've got outside the realm of blizzard.
 
Old Post

 
 KingRajesh   United States. March 03 2011 04:33. Posts 921
Profile # 

On March 03 2011 04:28 awu25 wrote:

Show nested quote +


it was more like, here i have a product, why don't you just buy it... then you make a little money out of it so we don't really care since it's chump change
10 years later: oh shit you're making a lot of money and refusing to give us a dime


But it's their prerogative as the original owners.

Just like all the videos on Youtube using copywritten material getting taken down years later... Just because they don't do anything about it now doesn't mean they can't do something about it down the line.

KESPA is screwed not just on point, but ON ALL FOURS. They should have taken the deal, Blizzard's lawyers are going to gut them in court.
"Zerg are the absolute worst thing that can happen to your day" - Dustin Browder
Old Post

 
 zerious   Canada. March 03 2011 04:34. Posts 3763
Profile # 

On March 03 2011 03:04 eviltomahawk wrote:

Show nested quote +


Indeed. The lack of Tossgirl is the biggest loss considering that she is secretly the real Protoss bonjwa.

Anyways, I think the fact that this thread was posted in the SC2 section only means that the anti-KeSPA opinions will outnumber the anti-Blizzard opinions. The opposite would probably happen if it was posted in the BW forum, which I think would be a more logical choice considering that this mainly has the greatest effect on BW, not SC2.


Tossgirl is terran
 
Old Post

 
 PeaNuT_T   Sweden. March 03 2011 04:39. Posts 302
Profile # 

On March 03 2011 02:30 Garnet wrote:
Only CS? why do they think this will work?

CS is an incredibly popular game, and if the tournament attracts teams like Fnatic, sk, and navi they'll no doubt get high stream numbers.
iNcontrol, IdrA,Lz, Strifecro, Axslav, Machine, Demuslim! EG Fighting!!!~~
Old Post

 
 Lokian   United States. March 03 2011 04:41. Posts 564
Profile # 
Is it because Blizz/MBC is in a lawsuit that some tournaments are excluding Blizz games or is it they know Blizz will win the lawsuit? Or is it like the previous article about WCG and that kespa leaders just want to thumb down Blizz games as spite? OR this is just to blame blizzard for the war.



Old Post

 
 Yurie   March 03 2011 04:43. Posts 2093
Profile Blog # 

On March 03 2011 04:41 Lokian wrote:
Is it because Blizz/MBC is in a lawsuit that some tournaments are excluding Blizz games or is it they know Blizz will win the lawsuit? Or is it like the previous article about WCG and that kespa leaders just want to thumb down Blizz games as spite? OR this is just to blame blizzard for the war.



Probably more along the lines, we don't have any rights to have this game in our line up. We will get sued if we have a tournament with this game in it, as proven by the Blizzard/KESPA case.

Just getting sued and the costs that are associated with it is enough to deter in many cases.
Last edit: 2011-03-03 04:43:57
Old Post

 
 MangoTango   United States. March 03 2011 04:44. Posts 3670
Profile Blog # 
Pretty sure this feels like suicide for E-stars.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
Old Post

 
 mprs   Canada. March 03 2011 04:44. Posts 2879
Profile # 
Blizzard have always had the upper hand, and they will continue to do so. This is not Blizzard's fault as much as it is the organizations that failed to compromise with them.

You don't get to make the rules when someone has a gun over your head.


(in before they shouldn't have a gun to their heads anyway)
We talkin about PRACTICE
Old Post

 
 Shinobi1982   March 03 2011 04:46. Posts 1517
Profile # 
What S-Korean SC2 scene thinks about the situation:
Train like an animal, eat like a horse, sleep like a baby, grow like a weed.
Old Post

 
 Helios.Star   United States. March 03 2011 04:49. Posts 488
Profile Blog # 

On March 03 2011 02:42 eviltomahawk wrote:
Great scott. This is certainly not a good year for the Korean e-sports scene despite SC2 exploding everywhere else in the world.

I think Blizzard made a huge mistake with their lawsuit. They were planning on using the specter of the lawsuit to pressure KeSPA into agreeing with their terms, and when KeSPA called the bluff, Blizzard unfortunately showed that they weren't bluffing. I wish the lawsuit card was never played in the first place. Many more months of stalled negotiations is much better than what we have now.


I believe Blizzard will be fine, especially with SC2 exploding everywhere else like you said. After a while I have a feeling that tournaments will have to include SC2 and Blizzard games whether or not they like it, as there will be far too much money to lose. Its very rare you see any organization give up a large profit for moral/support issues like this.
 
Old Post

  Kipsate   Netherlands. March 03 2011 04:51. Posts 18045Profile Blog # 
Currently the court cases are going beyond payment of broadcasting, from what I have understood from http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=188322

It is also about forcing(probably too much of a loose term) OGN/MBC to broadcast SC2 instead of BW. For those of you who have not read the article, Blizzard is not in an owmyfuckinggodalmighty position.
Last edit: 2011-03-03 04:51:31
Park Ji Yeon/Ye Eun/Kang Min Kyung, T-ara/Wonder Girls/Davichi
Old Post

 
 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo   Germany. March 03 2011 05:04. Posts 2861
Profile # 
Gotta love it, politics, huge companies, everything.

In the end they'll always react like little immature children, pathetic.
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
Old Post

 
 SoJu.WeRRa   Korea (South). March 03 2011 05:06. Posts 819
Profile # 
Sad to hear that...
나를 찢어갈겨이씨발놈아왜나를미치게만들어니가뭘아는데?
Old Post

 
 Ryps   Romania. March 03 2011 05:14. Posts 2520
Profile Blog # 
I still think this will hurt them more than it will hurt Blizzard.
 
Old Post

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 All
Please log in or register to reply.
 
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
StarCraft 2
Dota 2
League of Legends
[ Show 90 non-featured ]

» Recent SC2 Results
» Premier SC2 Tournaments
Sidebar Settings...

The Little App Factory



The opinions expressed by our users do not reflect the official position of TeamLiquid.net or its staff.

Advertising | Jobs | Privacy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren. Ad tag: TF_US.
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2002-2013 Teamliquid.net. All Rights Reserved