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Everize Poland. March 11 2011 01:27. Posts 176

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How are you guys...

So today is a beautiful morning ladies and gentleman I que up a game, wait 3 minutes since nobody is on and I meet a hacker which just lags the game to the point where I get dropped by showing his status "Slowing down the game" all over my screen, couldn't even move my mouse.
Here is the screenshot, for everybody's information

Please don't post things like "His computer was bad" if you're playing Starcraft 2 on Amiga then I might believe.
"I'm 3900 Masters"

MOD EDIT: Added in the screenshot. We have an "Upload Image" link FYI.

Last edit: 2011-03-11 03:33:40

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Serejai March 11 2011 01:31. Posts 2979

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I would probably post here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=151244 instead of making an entire new thread. Without a replay or anything, it's impossible to say he was hacking, though. Do you have a replay or a link to his profile? If he's like 100-0 then I'd say you're right, but as it is now there's not really any proof of that being a hack ~_~

I HAVE 4 TOAST POINTS

Wihl Sweden. March 11 2011 01:31. Posts 468

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May I suggest converting that 6 mb BMP file to jpg and uploading it to imgur instead?

Stropheum United States. March 11 2011 01:31. Posts 1121

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Some people lag out man

CryMeAReaper Denmark. March 11 2011 01:32. Posts 1129

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his computer was bad

User was warned for this post

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Hadron. Norway. March 11 2011 01:32. Posts 104

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Report the player, and upload it on a good host and as .jpg next time, he will get what is coming to him.

Edit: If he is actually cheating that is.

Last edit: 2011-03-11 01:33:04

Noev United States. March 11 2011 01:32. Posts 1089

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Hey, might want to post this here TL Hacker Database

Edit: ah was beat to the punch

Last edit: 2011-03-11 01:33:14

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awu25 United States. March 11 2011 01:32. Posts 1999

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That's interesting, did you get a loss for dropping out?

Serejai March 11 2011 01:34. Posts 2979

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On March 11 2011 01:32 Noev wrote:
Hey, might want to post this here TL Hacker Database

Edit: ah was beat to the punch

It's ok, you tried and it's the effort that counts ^___^

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Everize Poland. March 11 2011 01:38. Posts 176

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I stayed in the game for 3 minutes, it just doesn't happen I'm 3900 masters Terran (top Usa)
It's not bronze where people can't win few games, and it started immediately after I joined his game, and it was spamming from top to bottom for 3 minutes I've been in game. I opened up fraps minimized and made screen shots. So don't post dumb stuff in here, that he just lagged out, or something like that. It's obviously not the case, if he lags like this every game he wouldn't be top Usa. And to the conversion part, here it is

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Everize Poland. March 11 2011 01:39. Posts 176

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I will report him in-game but for some reason, when games are short or a player doesn't leave the game, it doesn't show in match history until later on so currently I can't report him in-game or anything like that.

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Eknoid4 United States. March 11 2011 01:40. Posts 900

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You can't just make a total assumption about someone hacking and then tell everyone they are posting dumb stuff.

If you're mad that someone else is brazenly trumpeting their beliefs with ignorance, perhaps you should be mad that you are doing it too.

Everize Poland. March 11 2011 01:42. Posts 176

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I'm just using logic, some people don't seem to do the same. And he was random race (not like it has to do with anything) but how many times does it have to say "XXXX Is slowing down the game, before hes gonna get dropped ? And the countdown should probably start if it was his computer, and the only person that dropped is me, I had massively lag that I couldn't even type out a word, or make an scv.

Last edit: 2011-03-11 01:43:43

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Flashback- March 11 2011 01:44. Posts 65

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yeah hes a drop hacker, a friend of mine had this happen to him. So far this guy is 32-1 and all his games in his match history show evidence of cheats. Hopefully he gets banned soon.

kartoffel Germany. March 11 2011 01:44. Posts 38

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mb u should put "3900 master" in your signature.

Iss immer deine Kartoffeln.

Eknoid4 United States. March 11 2011 01:44. Posts 900

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This is the kind of logic you are "using"

Jumping to Conclusions

If you're mad that someone else is brazenly trumpeting their beliefs with ignorance, perhaps you should be mad that you are doing it too.

Everize Poland. March 11 2011 01:45. Posts 176

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Here is the link to his profile - http://sc2ranks.com/us/2688364/PiLLaGe
please keep commenting

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Jetaap France. March 11 2011 01:45. Posts 2442

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Looks like a hack indeed..

edit: 100% hacker ,hope he gets banned soon.

Last edit: 2011-03-11 01:48:30

awu25 United States. March 11 2011 01:49. Posts 1999

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Yea the 32-1 record is a giveaway
Sad to see people doing this

Serejai March 11 2011 01:50. Posts 2979

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On March 11 2011 01:45 Everize wrote:
Here is the link to his profile - http://sc2ranks.com/us/2688364/PiLLaGe
please keep commenting

Was that so hard? I requested this info in the first reply of this thread. If you didn't beat around the bush so much then half of the comments here would never have been made

Best thing you can do in this case is to use the link I gave you earlier and post what you said here, as well as the link to his profile (leaving that out will just get you more comments like in this thread).

Then, you should either report him on B.Net, or use https://us.blizzard.com/support/webform.xml?locale=en_US to send a ticket if you can't access your match history for this game.

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kasumimi Greece. March 11 2011 01:52. Posts 430

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People in here bashing the OP for assumptions either didn't read the entire original post, didn't look at the screenshot or simply don't know what a hack is capable of.
The OP is not saying "OMG MAPHACK HE SCOUTED MY CHEESE". This is clearly some sort of abuse.

Unfortunately we can't do anything about this, the OP has to report him and all the other 32 people he abused.

hoby2000 United States. March 11 2011 01:53. Posts 704

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Anyone who only has 1 loss in SC2 as random in master's league, is either hacking, or just really fucking good at the game. Maybe he's the next Boxer? or maybe he's the next Neo?

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Everize Poland. March 11 2011 01:53. Posts 176

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Maybe because there is no way to provide a link, except get on google or sc2ranks and start searching >_< if you were so fanatic about it, you could have done the same just by looking at his name in screenshot. And yes I will report him, but I got a loss in-game and it does not say I even played a match vs him.

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Serejai March 11 2011 01:57. Posts 2979

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On March 11 2011 01:53 Everize wrote:
Maybe because there is no way to provide a link, except get on google or sc2ranks and start searching >_< if you were so fanatic about it, you could have done the same just by looking at his name in screenshot. And yes I will report him, but I got a loss in-game and it does not say I even played a match vs him.

I did search for him on sc2ranks, actually. Nothing came up using the Profile Finder. I'm assuming you were able to find him using his identifier, which I did not have access to.

On a side note, there needs to be an official Blizzard database for matches. I know there is one, but you can only access it by clicking someone's profile on the forums. To my knowledge there's no way to search for a player.

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Everize Poland. March 11 2011 01:59. Posts 176

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Okay, now how would I be able to use his identifier? When I can't even check that I played him in game, and I did same thing but you did, I went on sc2ranks and I used search function by putting his full name ^.^ And yeah I agree, there should be that option.

Last edit: 2011-03-11 01:59:44

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R1CH Administrator March 11 2011 02:01.

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Oh Blizzard, really? No rate limiting on a client to client message that interrupts gameplay, wastes CPU and memory and fills the screen? I hate to be hating on Blizzard this but bugs like this are very amateurish at this level of game design.

Twitter: @R1CH_TL

junemermaid United States. March 11 2011 02:03. Posts 981

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You should probably host the picture on imageshack or photobucket.

Last edit: 2011-03-11 02:04:56

the UMP says YER OUT

Eknoid4 United States. March 11 2011 02:03. Posts 900

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yeah no one is telling you YOU HAVE NO FACTS YOU ARE A PIECE OF SHIT LIAR. just show some evidence in the first post

If you're mad that someone else is brazenly trumpeting their beliefs with ignorance, perhaps you should be mad that you are doing it too.

OPman United States. March 11 2011 02:05. Posts 123

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If he's won all of his games like this I'm extremely surprised his account hasn't been banned already. Sucked for whoever plays him I guess

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BadWolf0 United States. March 11 2011 02:08. Posts 300

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R1CH drops in with the knowledge... I'm a complete beginner in actual design (been coding for a long time by myself and ust started a formal degree at a good uni) but isn't this a really really easy abuse to control? Like as you said a very simple rate limiter?

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infinity2k9 United Kingdom. March 11 2011 02:12. Posts 2398

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Is it simply a text spammer? Jesus you think they would have fixed that after BW where people could run spam scripts. It barely even counts as a hack.

aloT England. March 11 2011 02:17. Posts 1042

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you can link his bnet profile http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2688364/1/PiLLaGe/ to blizz lacking his identifier its the same thing to them. if you really get in contact with this guy personally and question him i suppose a convulated way to find his ID is to find him via his division, im sure at least one of them must have their profiles out there

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vl_86 Canada. March 11 2011 02:19. Posts 12

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I can vouch that it was a drop hack it happened to me yesterday too!

The game started then lagged to the point of barely even being able to highlight a unit to move. Then after about two minutes of that the drop menu popped up and i dropped

I was able to check his record history after the game and it was something along the lines of 23-0

papaz Sweden. March 11 2011 02:23. Posts 3746

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A bit OT but I really liked your latest replay pack Everize. Learned alot from your PvT and PvZ. Please keep making replay packs!

scatmango2 United States. March 11 2011 02:23. Posts 407

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This sort of hack is famous/common on WC3: TFT. It's nearly impossible to find a game without being drop hacked in this sort of fashion..

Virtue United States. March 11 2011 02:26. Posts 309

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He also hasn't lost any points for his one loss. Not sure if that is normal or if he dropped himself on accident.

Everize Poland. March 11 2011 02:28. Posts 176

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@Papaz
I will be streaming games lately, so tune in, and yeah new replay pack is coming.

I did lose 16 pts

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Pokebunny United States. March 11 2011 02:29. Posts 9582

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On March 11 2011 02:26 Virtue wrote:
He also hasn't lost any points for his one loss. Not sure if that is normal or if he dropped himself on accident.

Pretty normal when your record is really good and MMR is way higher than pts.

WeiSe United States. March 11 2011 02:30. Posts 5

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I ran into him yesterday. Same story. I reported him right after. Every 1v1 game he had was around 30 seconds long in his match history. I let him know he's been reported and he played the innocent "bnet keeps dropping me" role. Anyways, please report him OP.

Excalibur_Z United States. March 11 2011 02:30. Posts 10289

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On March 11 2011 02:01 R1CH wrote:
Oh Blizzard, really? No rate limiting on a client to client message that interrupts gameplay, wastes CPU and memory and fills the screen? I hate to be hating on Blizzard this but bugs like this are very amateurish at this level of game design.

The message itself doesn't actually interrupt gameplay, unless you mean it's similar to a DOS attack?

ZeromuS Canada. March 11 2011 02:30. Posts 8291

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wow thats pretty crazy. I did not expect someone to be this blatant with hacking I mean one loss, playing everize and is in master league with under 40 games played because he is winning at such a high rate. Thats crazy. I was about to say that it was probably not a hacker then I saw the WLR, and who the OP was and I thought.. wow thats madness.

EDIT: The above alongside the screen shot and game durations I should be clear to make people skimming this post not think only WLR has to do with hacking. Apologies for any confusion

- edited after reading excalibur's response to my post

Last edit: 2011-03-11 02:48:43

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Excalibur_Z United States. March 11 2011 02:33. Posts 10289

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On March 11 2011 02:30 ZeromuS wrote:
wow thats pretty crazy. I did not expect someone to be this blatant with hacking I mean one loss, playing everize and is in master league with under 40 games played because he is winning at such a high rate. Thats crazy. I was about to say that it was probably not a hacker then I saw the WLR, and who the OP was and I thought.. wow thats madness.

It's entirely possible to get that ratio legitimately. There are quite a few smurf accounts that have 30-0 and beyond records, including some that I've studied, and those wins were earned through legitimate means. The proof of hacking here is the spam of messages in the screenshot combined with the abnormally short game durations in his match history which results in the high amount of wins.

urashimakt United States. March 11 2011 02:35. Posts 1524

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On March 11 2011 02:30 Excalibur_Z wrote:

Show nested quote +

The message itself doesn't actually interrupt gameplay, unless you mean it's similar to a DOS attack?

Suddenly, I'm more interested in seeing a Wizard battle than in seeing Blizzard bring the accused to justice.

I'm not sure why you'd prefer to use a file hosting site with download limits to host a JPG, but imgur takes mere seconds to upload something (no registration required) and has no such limits. I recommend it!

Last edit: 2011-03-11 02:40:39

Who dat ninja?

Nizzy United States. March 11 2011 02:43. Posts 838

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I'm at work and don't want to download the file. Can anyone just upload that .jpg to tinypic or something? Thanks in advanced.

ZeromuS Canada. March 11 2011 02:47. Posts 8291

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On March 11 2011 02:33 Excalibur_Z wrote:

Show nested quote +

I should have been more articulate with my expression of a high WLR as well as the duration of the games which i took for granted.

I failed to think about smurf accounts as well which is probably why I overlooked the additional information in my post.

hope I didn;t confuse anyone

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urashimakt United States. March 11 2011 02:56. Posts 1524

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Here's an imgur link I've created while the download is off cooldown, for those who can't/won't/haven't gotten to see it yet:

http://i.imgur.com/jqIX8.jpg

Who dat ninja?

Cri du Chat Germany. March 11 2011 02:57. Posts 569

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Ah funny. Watched TLO's stream this morning and he got dropped the same way on NA server.
I hope they ban the guy soon and fix whatever makes exploits like this possible.

Was the same guy even.

Last edit: 2011-03-11 03:00:09

Ponyo United States. March 11 2011 03:06. Posts 1231

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looks like he will be in masters.. banned from it..

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hmsrenown Canada. March 11 2011 03:09. Posts 654

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On March 11 2011 02:30 Excalibur_Z wrote:

Show nested quote +

The message itself doesn't actually interrupt gameplay, unless you mean it's similar to a DOS attack?

From the looks of it is very similar to DOS attack...

FrogOfWar Germany. March 11 2011 03:09. Posts 1245

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On March 11 2011 01:27 Everize wrote:

"I'm 3900 Masters"

Says who?

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Mailing United States. March 11 2011 03:11. Posts 3087

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How did he get masters?

I thought the game doesn't promote people until they lose and stabilize mmr?

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caradoc Canada. March 11 2011 03:14. Posts 2893

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Blatant hack. There are actually recently quite a few posts on battle.net reporting the same thing at different levels, its definitely not just you.

Blizz is definitely aware of it.

EDIT: you'd think they'd have been aware of it during wc3 though? wow.

Last edit: 2011-03-11 03:19:09

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Excalibur_Z United States. March 11 2011 03:18. Posts 10289

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On March 11 2011 03:11 Mailing wrote:
How did he get masters?

I thought the game doesn't promote people until they lose and stabilize mmr?

People have been promoted without losing, it's not unheard of. Furthermore it seems like in the past few months the promotion system has been revised and it doesn't hold players until they skip leagues anymore. We still have a small sample size because it's not common that players will go undefeated for so long.

Let's stay on topic though.

orotoss United States. March 11 2011 03:20. Posts 298

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This happened to TLO on his stream yesterday. He had to surrender after about a minute because it was unplayable.

BLARRGHGHH

DaCruise Denmark. March 11 2011 03:27. Posts 2020

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DO NOT DOWNLOAD THE FILE!,,when I clicked the link that OP posted my McAfee went bananas.

On topic: This drop sounds identical to one of the early drop hacks in WC3, where the game would get more and more laggy to the point where you eventually would get dropped. Only way to win was by killing the opponent before that happened.
However it didnt take long for an anti drop hack hack to arrive which cancelled the original hack. Ofc it would be much better if Blizzard would just insta-perma-ban these fuckers right away.

hmsrenown Canada. March 11 2011 03:27. Posts 654

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On March 11 2011 03:18 Excalibur_Z wrote:

Show nested quote +

Now that people have refreshed my memories, this is indeed like a DOS attack hack. TLO dropped out against the exact same guy on his stream not long ago.

Also this kind of hack was rampant in wc3, thought blizz would've known by now

spancho United States. March 11 2011 03:29. Posts 159

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From a theoretical prospective, this is a pretty caveman style hack. Considering the power of run time code injection, it should theoretically be possible for an attacker to get your computer to execute arbitrary code through the built in time sync protocol.

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KillerPlague United States. March 11 2011 03:29. Posts 1386

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can someone remove the link to the hack please. can we get a picture of the guys profile instead, or the replay?

Side 1: Why no dominant players with 90% win ratio Side 2: Nerf Side 1

urashimakt United States. March 11 2011 03:31. Posts 1524

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On March 11 2011 03:27 DaCruise wrote:
DO NOT DOWNLOAD THE FILE!,,when I clicked the link that OP posted my McAfee went bananas.

On topic: This drop sounds identical to one of the early drop hacks in WC3, where the game would get more and more laggy to the point where you eventually would get dropped. Only way to win was by killing the opponent before that happened.
However it didnt take long for an anti drop hack hack to arrive which cancelled the original hack. Ofc it would be much better if Blizzard would just insta-perma-ban these fuckers right away.

The file is fine. Popular AntiVirus programs are often prone to false alarms. If you don't trust the original download, I reposted the image on imgur a little bit ago.

On March 11 2011 03:29 KillerPlague wrote:
can someone remove the link to the hack please. can we get a picture of the guys profile instead, or the replay?

Where are you seeing a link to any hack? The download in the OP is just a picture uploaded to a file hosting site.

Last edit: 2011-03-11 03:33:15

Who dat ninja?

Excalibur_Z United States. March 11 2011 03:34. Posts 10289

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It's fine, I just embedded it in the OP.

Mykill Canada. March 11 2011 03:35. Posts 3226

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lol wow
32-1. What a pro.

obviously hacking. Should be banned soon

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KillerPlague United States. March 11 2011 03:37. Posts 1386

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wowww this sucks, although it was bound to happen :/ ban hammer incoming

Side 1: Why no dominant players with 90% win ratio Side 2: Nerf Side 1

Sufinsil United States. March 11 2011 04:31. Posts 417

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Took them 5 years to put this in WoW for trade chat spam. Was not a problem the first couple of years but it got so bad sometimes once Burning Crusade was out.

Everize Poland. March 11 2011 04:57. Posts 176

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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=200167

You're going supernova, all of our thoughts become just one. I fly million miles only to crash into the sun.

BadWolf0 United States. March 11 2011 04:59. Posts 300

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why the link to your replay pack Everize?

edit: I'm an asshole, sorry didn't realize you were OP. Thought some random guy dropped a link to his own replay pack in someone else's hack thread. Still OT but sorry for being an asshole.

Last edit: 2011-03-11 10:14:26

All hail the Queen!!!

hifriend Sweden. March 11 2011 05:06. Posts 5965

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There's a forum post up on one of the biggest sc2 hacking communities today with a pretty known guy talking about how he went crazy with drophacks yesterday on all the ladders.

They are guest accounts so it doesn't really matter whether you report him or not.

Luckily, the guy isn't going to release it publicly.

+ Show Spoiler +

Last edit: 2011-03-11 05:07:14

Evolve Canada. March 11 2011 05:10. Posts 63

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Its atleast semi public for sure... I got drophacked twice last night, sooo much raaaage -_-

50minute game
"Lol ima build broodloords in his base cuz hes fucked, and rally in ultras"
*sc2 drops again*
"fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu---"

hifriend Sweden. March 11 2011 05:13. Posts 5965

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On March 11 2011 05:10 Evolve wrote:
Its atleast semi public for sure... I got drophacked twice last night, sooo much raaaage -_-

50minute game
"Lol ima build broodloords in his base cuz hes fucked, and rally in ultras"
*sc2 drops again*
"fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu---"

He talks a lot about the method so someone might have replicated it. It's a simple method so meh, I'm fine with people using it against me, getting perm'd and then the method gets patched and it's over with.

edit: assuming blizzard hasn't gone full retard that is, but on the other hand you probably can't expect much when the exact same public maphack remains safe from warden from week 2 of the beta up until now.

Last edit: 2011-03-11 05:15:04

derivator Germany. March 11 2011 05:17. Posts 2

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On March 11 2011 03:29 spancho wrote:
From a theoretical prospective, this is a pretty caveman style hack. Considering the power of run time code injection, it should theoretically be possible for an attacker to get your computer to execute arbitrary code through the built in time sync protocol.

And what exactly leads you to that conclusion? Why do we have to "consider the power of run time code injection" ? What you describe would be a horrible security flaw, but I see no reason why it should be possible. I'd wager that all that is happening here is the hack sending lots and lots of fake slowdown messages so your game client craps out. If you have any in depth information on the game's protocols to contradict that, please share it with us.

Jaeger United States. March 11 2011 05:33. Posts 533

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Faced the same guy last night, same results. Kept getting spammed by that slowing down the game message for around 3 minutes until the game dropped me.

http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/656546/Jaeger

Zinnwaldite Seychelles. March 11 2011 05:38. Posts 1306

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I don't get why anyone would do this,, it serves no purpose.

Sounds like a pretty boring thing to do aswell,,

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SyIdrA March 11 2011 06:17. Posts 2

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I was watching TLO stream last night and this guy was paired up with TLO for two matches straight first one Pillage disconnects, and then the second one there is that spamming of delay of game from pillage.
Just thought this could be used as even further evidence because you can go check his stream ^_^

OhMyGawd United States. March 11 2011 06:24. Posts 263

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How small does you penis have to be, to hack Sc2?

zomg

cocosoft Sweden. March 11 2011 07:19. Posts 1018

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Interesting hack.

On March 11 2011 02:08 twstdletz wrote:
R1CH drops in with the knowledge... I'm a complete beginner in actual design (been coding for a long time by myself and ust started a formal degree at a good uni) but isn't this a really really easy abuse to control? Like as you said a very simple rate limiter?

Well as you can see it doesn't seem to be just a easy-mode hack, probably has to do something with time synchronization, which then would lead to "X is slowing down the game". The interesting thing is how he manages to get more than one "X is slowing down the game" message, as it only should appear once(?).
Also I'm not entirely sure if the OP meant drop because of frame rate slowdown, or because battlenet dropped the client.

Last edit: 2011-03-11 07:36:39

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Kantutan Canada. March 11 2011 07:32. Posts 1319

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Yeah this same guy did it on TLO's stream. Oh and I must add... How bad can you be to still lose a game with this?

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Tektos Australia. March 11 2011 07:54. Posts 1310

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How bad do you have to be to lose a game while hacking?

NoblesseOblige March 11 2011 08:10. Posts 3

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It would be funny if that is the wrong pillage and blizzard bans him.

adrenaLinG Canada. March 11 2011 08:17. Posts 672

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He will probably get away with it for another week or so. Blizzard doesn't respond very quickly.

I was in a 4v4 RT game where one guy does nothing but minimap ping grief the entire team all game while idling his base. And he's played over 500 team games where he's done this.

The "report player" feature is worthless and Blizzard doesn't even pay attention to it.

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Subversion South Africa. March 11 2011 08:17. Posts 3619

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Why would you go around on ladder with guest accounts giving people losses?

......sounds really boring, and just means you're an asshole.

NathanSC United States. March 11 2011 08:20. Posts 620

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Yeah, I have to agree with everyone saying this doesn't make sense as to why it's appealing to pull off. I hope this gets patched very, very soon.

Simmtron United States. March 11 2011 08:37. Posts 47

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It is a hack. In the thread about iGware in these forums, someone posted a link to a hacking site. In the SC2 forum, someone made a thread of a drop hack he was using and posted pictures, etc. I don't know if I'm allowed to post it here, but just giving a heads up. Most people who do this use trial accounts, so banning these accounts won't really do much.

GinDo March 11 2011 08:43. Posts 2927

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On March 11 2011 08:17 Subversion wrote:
Why would you go around on ladder with guest accounts giving people losses?

......sounds really boring, and just means you're an asshole.

He probably has multiple accounts. Blizzard should IP ban him.

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Sworn Canada. March 11 2011 08:53. Posts 834

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Hacker no way someone's computer does that anyways. I've seen the slow down message show up once per person no repeatedly. Hope his ass gets banned and anyone like him.

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Kantutan Canada. March 11 2011 09:04. Posts 1319

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On March 11 2011 08:10 NoblesseOblige wrote:
It would be funny if that is the wrong pillage and blizzard bans him.

It isn't possible to make that mistake though, because there's only one PiLLaGe in masters and it has the same capitalization.

Phayze Canada. March 11 2011 09:10. Posts 2017

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On March 11 2011 08:43 GinDo wrote:

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He probably has multiple accounts. Blizzard should IP ban him.

IP ban wont do anything, you can merely shut off all your pc's and restart your modem, or request a new dns. Besides why would blizzard do that? If he's got multiple accounts he can buy more, and will, and thats all income. It takes 1minute to change your IP.

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hifriend Sweden. March 11 2011 09:17. Posts 5965

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On March 11 2011 09:10 Phayze wrote:

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Guest accounts, and a lot of people have static ip.

awu25 United States. March 11 2011 09:18. Posts 1999

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On March 11 2011 08:17 Subversion wrote:
Why would you go around on ladder with guest accounts giving people losses?

......sounds really boring, and just means you're an asshole.

That's exactly what hackers are, assholes. They probably post pictures of their perfect records and laugh at responses in threads like these

Tef Sweden. March 11 2011 09:19. Posts 443

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It is indeed strange Blizzard didn't had a limit for these messages. But we all do mistakes I guess.

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Ridiculisk Australia. March 11 2011 09:24. Posts 191

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I r confuse?

What's the point of this? There is nothing to be gained from winning a bunch of SC2 games, and even if it's some misguided attempt at inflating the ol' e-peen, now everyone knows he's a hacker...

*sigh*

I hope Blizzard can somehow keep SC2 free of all this shit.

Edit: So for my own curiosity I did a search to find out how common these sorts of exploits are, and stumbled upon the hacker from the OP's post where he releases his hack publicly.

Apparently there are entire communities of gamers who just hack games and lol...

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TNine United States. March 11 2011 09:27. Posts 46

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On March 11 2011 08:17 adrenaLinG wrote:
He will probably get away with it for another week or so. Blizzard doesn't respond very quickly.

I was in a 4v4 RT game where one guy does nothing but minimap ping grief the entire team all game while idling his base. And he's played over 500 team games where he's done this.

The "report player" feature is worthless and Blizzard doesn't even pay attention to it.

One week isn't slow...its better than Blizzard simply banning every single person who gets reported. Better to be too slow than to be too fast.

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Kamais_Ookin Canada. March 11 2011 09:31. Posts 4218

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Wow, I hope that hacker gets banned, it's quite obvious with his ratio as well.

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Baarn United States. March 11 2011 09:39. Posts 2392

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Making it a protected function would be a better solution than rate limiting in an rts. Though the hackers would just try to edit it but how I'd protect it would just make that pointless.

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S.O.L.I.D. United States. March 11 2011 09:50. Posts 792

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I don't think that constitutes hacking...

Like someone else said, better too late than too early, or people would get banned for no reason, like the person in your case. People are always going to be annoying, hacking is something different altogether.

Hope this guy gets banned, hacking is lame.

Drunkasarous United States. March 11 2011 10:10. Posts 96

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This would be more annoying than maphacking.... which happened to me twice the other day.

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Diaspora United States. March 11 2011 10:44. Posts 140

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I played against this guy earlier today and he did the same to me. I'm assuming it's some type of drop hack, therefore the op is valid

jiabung United States. March 11 2011 10:50. Posts 716

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On March 11 2011 02:33 Excalibur_Z wrote:
It's entirely possible to get that ratio legitimately. There are quite a few smurf accounts that have 30-0 and beyond records, including some that I've studied, and those wins were earned through legitimate means. The proof of hacking here is the spam of messages in the screenshot combined with the abnormally short game durations in his match history which results in the high amount of wins.

Don't mean to nitpick, but there are actually zero accounts with 30-0 and beyond records... at least in regions that are actually competitive. It's just odd to see a banling spreading misinformation saying there are "quite a few" when there are zero. PiLLaGe actually has the best win ratio in the US/EU/KR right now. I'm sure some pros can obtain such a record through legitimate means, but no one has actually done it yet.

I'm just gonna keep this in this post since it's off topic but

On March 11 2011 10:59 Geovu wrote:
HuK on his korean account had an obscene amount of wins before his first loss, which was a PvP where he lost to DTs lol. Not sure about the exact number, either 25ish or 35ish, maybe 45ish wins.

...ish

I believe he had 22 wins before his first loss. I hope you know having an uncertainty of 20 wins probably means you don't really remember at all.

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Geovu Canada. March 11 2011 10:59. Posts 1344

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On March 11 2011 10:50 jiabung wrote:

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Don't mean to nitpick, but there are actually zero accounts with 30-0 and beyond records... at least in regions that are actually competitive. It's just odd to see a banling spreading misinformation saying there are "quite a few" when there are zero. PiLLaGe actually has the best win ratio in US/EU/KR right now. I'm sure some pros can obtain such a record through legitimate means, but no one has actually done it yet.

HuK on his korean account had an obscene amount of wins before his first loss, which was a PvP where he lost to DTs lol. Not sure about the exact number, either 25ish or 35ish, maybe 45ish wins.

...ish

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Amui Canada. March 11 2011 11:03. Posts 3134

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It is possible to get 30-0 on a new account if you are a tiptop masters player. It is NOT possible to do it with all 3 minute games.

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a176 Canada. March 11 2011 11:17. Posts 5423

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Funny story,

Blizzard once had a well known hacker in one of their Top 200 releases

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Hong Kong. March 11 2011 11:19. Posts 4448

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I played a guy who used this hack too.

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Touch Canada. March 11 2011 11:21. Posts 474

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People, shut up and stop defending him, you look stupid and pathetic.

http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/116241634

New SC2 hack.

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Hong Kong. March 11 2011 11:30. Posts 4448

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On March 11 2011 09:17 hifriend wrote:

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Guest accounts, and a lot of people have static ip.

If someone could make this hack, they can easily get another ip.

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Touch Canada. March 11 2011 11:33. Posts 474

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On March 11 2011 11:30 T.O.P. wrote:

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If someone could make this hack, they can easily get another ip.

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Far worse. They are using guest passes. Well, if they are smart enough.

Respond to removal: It's not a link to the hack, read the thread, he is only using the hack for personal uses and is not planning on releasing it.

http://www.d3scene.com/forum/starcraft-2-hacks/50573-drophack-fun.html

*Link re-edited in.

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Perseverance Japan. March 11 2011 11:38. Posts 2663

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stuff like this is retarded, why can't people just enjoy the game?

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101toss March 11 2011 11:38. Posts 2309

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On March 11 2011 02:30 Excalibur_Z wrote:

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The message itself doesn't actually interrupt gameplay, unless you mean it's similar to a DOS attack?

It can cause a memory leak/video card overheat when spammed like that, which for some laptop gamers (i.e. me) can crash the game or worse (Blue screened once T.T).

Also, it interrupts gameplay when it's spammed like that. I'm confused why Blizzard would even let those warnings stack up on each other instead of just seeing one window at a time. Oh, right, bnet 0.2.

Hopefully blizz doesn't take more than a week to fix this. It seems more like a lagswitch kind of deal as opposed to a hack that modifies the interface memory.

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BadgerWatch March 11 2011 11:59. Posts 58

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Haha he did the same thing to TLO on his stream last night. Funny thing was his loss was the game before also against TLO, when he just left the game.

Drowsy United States. March 11 2011 12:03. Posts 4826

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Sad news, I hope blizzard is able to continue their anti-hack crusade and prevent these things from surfacing.

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KevinIX United States. March 11 2011 12:06. Posts 2450

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There will always be hacks, unfortunately. Hopefully Blizzard remains vigilant in banning hackers.

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Sein United States. March 11 2011 14:57. Posts 1650

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Blizzard always bans hackers in waves, so the majority of those cheaters usually get to play for a few more months even if they are detected. However, from what I've seen, when one of those guys get caught and his name widely publicized either on here or on the official forums, Blizzard is forced to take an immediate action and he does get banned shortly. So, as long as there are pretty clear evidences, I think it helps the community to publicize and flame cheaters in this manner.

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RogerChillingworth March 11 2011 14:58. Posts 2268

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This has happened to me as well. Frustrating indeed!

MangoTango United States. March 11 2011 15:01. Posts 3670

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Case closed, R1CH has spoken.

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LoLAdriankat United States. March 11 2011 15:02. Posts 3635

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Apparently Blizzard missed the mark when it came to the Q&A testing. I'm saddened that they didn't ask themselves if the "X is slowing down the game" feature was abusable.

Irave United States. March 11 2011 15:08. Posts 7907

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Very annoying, but it is true Blizzard has a pretty good reputation with banning hackers. Thankfully I haven't ran into this, as it would probably be the death of my computer

Azzur Australia. March 11 2011 15:17. Posts 5852

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On March 11 2011 11:33 Touch wrote:

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Far worse. They are using guest passes. Well, if they are smart enough.

It's not a link to the hack, read the thread, he is only using the hack for personal uses and is not planning on releasing it.

http://www.d3scene.com/forum/starcraft-2-hacks/50573-drophack-fun.html

*Link re-edited in.

Thanks for posting that link. I read it and think the hacker is a huge idiot who thinks he's funny for ruining other people's fun. He also appears to have a great kick out of people posting on the forums "because they are so serious about their accounts". Since it's a guest account, he feels that there will be no consequences.

Well, I sincerely hope that Blizzard will pursue the matter outside of the game (i.e. take legal action). Doing a DOS attack is against the law so hopefully there will be some avenue to it. This will discourage idiots like this in the future. And I'm pretty sure that Blizzard can track the person down if they want to.

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Hister United States. March 11 2011 20:16. Posts 89

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Ugh how annoying with the possibility of hardware damage. This clown is probably on a guest account having fun hacking his way up to masters shouldn't allow guest accounts past platinum to begin with and we wouldn't see this kind of basement dweller.

AKspartan United States. March 11 2011 21:23. Posts 122

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It's sad that there are people out there who are so bored with the game that they have to resort to hacking to enjoy themselves.

Trolls like these don't seem like people who really have much going for them in their lives at all though, so you can only hate them so much.

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cocosoft Sweden. March 12 2011 00:47. Posts 1018

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On March 11 2011 20:16 Hister wrote:
Ugh how annoying with the possibility of hardware damage.

You are far worse trying to play crysis on a semi-bad computer.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Murfshake May 11 2011 00:25. Posts 46

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How is he not banned and now #1 GM...

Daralii United States. May 11 2011 00:27. Posts 5664

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On May 11 2011 00:25 Murfshake wrote:
How is he not banned and now #1 GM...

This. I know that Blizz likes to ban in waves, but someone hacking his way to rank 1 GM should be dealt with within hours, not months.

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Angry_Fetus Canada. May 11 2011 00:40. Posts 425

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I'm sure the GM players handing wins to him are pretty choked... Wonder how long Blizzard will let him stay there

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Yaotzin South Africa. May 11 2011 00:41. Posts 4280

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He's done it in like 1 day be patient geez :0

HeeroFX United States. May 11 2011 00:43. Posts 1915

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Pillage is a hacker, he is like 56-0 in one day of playing and rank 1 grandmasters, all his games in match history are 3 secs sooo drop hacker report him on grandmaster ladder for hacking.

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xSixGeneralHan United States. May 11 2011 00:46. Posts 528

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I know our team stopped laddering until,he is banned. And many other GMs started playing on EU, etc.

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MangoTango United States. May 11 2011 00:49. Posts 3670

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Hahaha 69-0 in GM? Yeah, ok, sure. Get out, hacker scum. Action's on you, Blizz.

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Taurent Canada. May 11 2011 00:49. Posts 387

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hey i played this guy twice yesterday and got dropped in the first second of the game

ODieN United States. May 11 2011 00:50. Posts 2397

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On May 11 2011 00:46 VPGeneralHans wrote:
I know our team stopped laddering until,he is banned. And many other GMs started playing on EU, etc.

Just add him to your friends list and queue up when he's either in game or offline.
Simple as that.

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hi_0 Canada. May 11 2011 00:51. Posts 247

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This is seriously embarrasing for blizzard, #1 on the GM north american ladder is an obvious cheater and nothing is done.

ensign_lee United States. May 11 2011 00:52. Posts 1017

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Question - how did he get into grandmasters if grandmasters was locked at the original top 200 near the beginning of season 2?

Yaotzin South Africa. May 11 2011 00:54. Posts 4280

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On May 11 2011 00:52 ensign_lee wrote:
Question - how did he get into grandmasters if grandmasters was locked at the original top 200 near the beginning of season 2?

It wasn't locked, if you get too many bonus points you drop out. So either he got in that way (his MMR would be insane, so he'd be first in line probably), or he was always in.

GertHeart United States. May 11 2011 00:54. Posts 599

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On May 11 2011 00:52 ensign_lee wrote:
Question - how did he get into grandmasters if grandmasters was locked at the original top 200 near the beginning of season 2?

2 spots have been open for a while it's been Top 198 for a while now =P

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hi_0 Canada. May 11 2011 00:54. Posts 247

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Players build up too much bonus pool and get dropped out, so their slot is filled.

DeamonMachine United States. May 11 2011 00:56. Posts 25

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On the general topic of hackers.. what I don't understand is

Why?

I mean, I know you can go home to you friends and say you're #1 in grandmasters, but other than that', what is the point? You get a bad reputation, no one will respect you again if they figure out your real life information. Maybe props in the hacker community?

I mean, you can't get sponsors, there's generally no way to advance in life or anything by doing this. At least bronze level players who actually play the game can say that they tried and learned something, or just had fun in general.

Just a thought.

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Nizzy United States. May 11 2011 00:57. Posts 838

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On May 11 2011 00:56 DeamonMachine wrote:
On the general topic of hackers.. what I don't understand is

Why?

I mean, I know you can go home to you friends and say you're #1 in grandmasters, but other than that', what is the point? You get a bad reputation, no one will respect you again if they figure out your real life information. Maybe props in the hacker community?

I mean, you can't get sponsors, there's generally no way to advance in life or anything by doing this. At least bronze level players who actually play the game can say that they tried and learned something, or just had fun in general.

Just a thought.

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xSixGeneralHan United States. May 11 2011 00:58. Posts 528

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On May 11 2011 00:50 Odien wrote:

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Just add him to your friends list and queue up when he's either in game or offline.
Simple as that.

Doesn't work that easy :/
If he is in a game it's only going to last 3 seconds so you may queue up as a GM, wait time might be 2 minutes and he will be done with his game and then he queues and you get each other. As long as he is on, GMs are not safe

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iloveav Poland. May 11 2011 01:00. Posts 819

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http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/news/15538-hacker-reaches-top-of-na-grand-master-league
...

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Angry_Fetus Canada. May 11 2011 01:03. Posts 425

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On May 11 2011 00:58 VPGeneralHans wrote:

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So just don't play when he is on.... Considering he only has like 60 games and the average game is only a few seconds, he doesn't play much.

iloveav Poland. May 11 2011 01:04. Posts 819

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On March 11 2011 02:30 Excalibur_Z wrote:

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The message itself doesn't actually interrupt gameplay, unless you mean it's similar to a DOS attack?

Guys, Blizzard, in Diablo2, allowed Bots to flood their servers, and kept banning gamers that used a maphack (less problematic than a bot obviously). I never expected sc2 to be hack-free, but they failed long ago, and surely will keep failing at this :D.

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Flight Brazil. May 11 2011 01:05. Posts 144

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He ruined SeleCT's stream last night. After droping in the first seconds, SeleCT reported the guy and was scared to ladder 1x1 again. He tried EU, but it was laggy, and then he just threw some 2x2 for fun with friends.

VPCursed May 11 2011 01:07. Posts 1038

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happened to me lastnight too.. sigh

xSixGeneralHan United States. May 11 2011 01:10. Posts 528

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On May 11 2011 01:03 Angry_Fetus wrote:

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So just don't play when he is on.... Considering he only has like 60 games and the average game is only a few seconds, he doesn't play much.

He did it in a span of 4 to 5 hrs.....that's a decent amount of games. To many players it's not worth the risk and aggrevation. I would only assume that blizzard wipes all the games when they ban him or else it makes even more sense to not play until he is gone. I know Select is just doing EU last night because he got the hacker several times.

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Sein United States. May 11 2011 01:18. Posts 1650

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Are you kidding me? This guy is still around and GM #1 after 2 months? It's not even an issue of "oh, we can't let the hackers know that their hacks have been detected by the warden". It's blatantly obvious to anyone's eyes. Come on blizzard, you have no excuse for this.

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Furycrab Canada. May 11 2011 01:19. Posts 450

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On May 11 2011 00:51 hi_0 wrote:
This is seriously embarrasing for blizzard, #1 on the GM north american ladder is an obvious cheater and nothing is done.

They likely want him to cheat a little bit to have a better idea of what he is exploiting. Being able to drop random players in seconds is a pretty serious attack.

Too tired to come up with something witty.

Fede Uruguay. May 11 2011 01:19. Posts 108

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If you block communication can you still get him on ladder? I'm pretty sure you can't for custom games... But for ladder, that may be exploitable.

aksfjh United States. May 11 2011 01:22. Posts 3505

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You can still get players on ladder that you block. You just won't read any of their messages in game after it starts. I should know, I block a lot of people after I play them... >_>

FliedLice Germany. May 11 2011 01:27. Posts 6480

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On May 11 2011 01:19 Fede wrote:
If you block communication can you still get him on ladder? I'm pretty sure you can't for custom games... But for ladder, that may be exploitable.

Rofl, that'd be quite exploitable by itself, just block all pro players and bash nubs until you have 934012349102934 ladderpoints

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ffadicted Canada. May 11 2011 01:31. Posts 2633

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Gotta say this is the funniest thing I've ever seen. What a baller to be still alive for this long, this guy is an hero imo

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starsucks May 11 2011 01:33. Posts 233

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Wow, this is utterly ridiculous. Was he initially placed in GM or did he move in afterwards? Didn't see him in the initial list.

Blizzard, do something! This is embarrassing.

Jakkerr Netherlands. May 11 2011 01:34. Posts 2428

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On May 11 2011 01:31 ffadicted wrote:
Gotta say this is the funniest thing I've ever seen. What a baller to be still alive for this long, this guy is an hero imo

It seems to have a 100% successrate since he's at 69-0 now lol

zarepath United States. May 11 2011 01:34. Posts 1560

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On May 11 2011 01:31 ffadicted wrote:
Gotta say this is the funniest thing I've ever seen. What a baller to be still alive for this long, this guy is an hero imo

Um... are you kidding? "Baller?" "Hero?" You're at the wrong website, I think.

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zeru Sweden. May 11 2011 01:35. Posts 5851

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Oh blizzard... what are you doing...

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trainRiderJ United States. May 11 2011 01:36. Posts 563

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On May 11 2011 01:31 ffadicted wrote:
Gotta say this is the funniest thing I've ever seen. What a baller to be still alive for this long, this guy is an hero imo

Are you 12?

branflakes14 May 11 2011 01:37. Posts 2081

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It wouldn't surprise me if Blizzard were keeping an eye on him to see what he's doing so exploits like that can't be done by other people in the future.

Lasbike France. May 11 2011 01:42. Posts 2833

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Hahaha, he's still first Grandmaster ?! Damn, it's been a long time.

This really show how if a guy like this can't be banned, a random low level hacker will never be.

starsucks May 11 2011 01:43. Posts 233

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Is he just going to get banned or will there be more serious consequences too? I mean he just made himself the best US American Starcraft II Player......

skeldark Germany. May 11 2011 01:47. Posts 2215

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would be good if he make 200 more accounts and is the only person in gm next session and than bliz invite them all (only him) to a trounement.

i think only at this point bliz will start to see how fucked up there system is.

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KonohaFlash Canada. May 11 2011 01:49. Posts 1590

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On May 11 2011 01:31 ffadicted wrote:
Gotta say this is the funniest thing I've ever seen. What a baller to be still alive for this long, this guy is an hero imo

Yes because people who play this game for hours on end and play this professionally deserve to lose to a scrub who drop hacks. >.<

Baarn United States. May 11 2011 01:50. Posts 2392

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On May 11 2011 01:19 Furycrab wrote:

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They likely want him to cheat a little bit to have a better idea of what he is exploiting. Being able to drop random players in seconds is a pretty serious attack.

His hack supposedly doesn't work with today's patch so he won't be laddering any longer on this account.

There's no S in KT. :P

ffadicted Canada. May 11 2011 01:50. Posts 2633

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On May 11 2011 01:34 zarepath wrote:

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Um... are you kidding? "Baller?" "Hero?" You're at the wrong website, I think.

On May 11 2011 01:36 trainRiderJ wrote:

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Are you 12?

On May 11 2011 01:49 KonohaFlash wrote:

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Yes because people who play this game for hours on end and play this professionally deserve to lose to a scrub who drop hacks. >.<

Relax, it's just a game lol... it's not like he's stealing personal information or anything. Most of the pros he's gonna be playing don't even care about ladder anyway. Annoying, sure, but still pretty funny, and gotta appreciate his hacking and ninja ban dodging skills

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Wtfux Northern Ireland. May 11 2011 01:52. Posts 132

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On May 11 2011 00:56 DeamonMachine wrote:
On the general topic of hackers.. what I don't understand is

Why?

I mean, I know you can go home to you friends and say you're #1 in grandmasters, but other than that', what is the point? You get a bad reputation, no one will respect you again if they figure out your real life information. Maybe props in the hacker community?

I mean, you can't get sponsors, there's generally no way to advance in life or anything by doing this. At least bronze level players who actually play the game can say that they tried and learned something, or just had fun in general.

Just a thought.

Why? Trolling. Simple as that. He probably comes on here hoping we will mention him, so good job everyone.

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Baarn United States. May 11 2011 01:52. Posts 2392

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On May 11 2011 01:50 ffadicted wrote:

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The concern is that this private hack isn't made public when it's working again. Get heaps of retards abusing it for lols.

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DivineSC United States. May 11 2011 01:52. Posts 128

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Yea, Pillage is #1 NA from doing this to everyone, I believe select ran into him like 2 or 3 times yesterday, and just stopped laddering all together.

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Torte de Lini Canada. May 11 2011 01:53. Posts 27051

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On May 11 2011 01:50 ffadicted wrote:

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Yes they do. Ladder, besides winning tournaments is one way of evaluating one's ability against other professional players.

Why would you say this?

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AzurewinD United States. May 11 2011 01:56. Posts 564

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Somebody needs to let Artosis know that this bitchankle stole his GM spot.

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sylverfyre United States. May 11 2011 01:58. Posts 4135

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Wow, so this has been going on for two months and no action on blizzard's part? -_- Bullshit.

Wolf Korea (South). May 11 2011 02:04. Posts 3039

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This could be far worse. Pillage is 69-0, but he could have conceivably been doing this for hours and hours and stolen more ladder points from top players. As it stands, though, it almost seems like he's just trying to subtly let Blizzard know there's a problem that needs addressing. I haven't personally hit him on the ladder so I don't know if he talks or anything, but so far...

I think he's just making a point. If he released this to the public, we'd have a huge issue. Blizzard should figure this out soon.

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ffadicted Canada. May 11 2011 02:04. Posts 2633

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On May 11 2011 01:52 Baarn wrote:

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The concern is that this private hack isn't made public when it's working again. Get heaps of retards abusing it for lols.

Fair enough

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jiabung United States. May 11 2011 02:05. Posts 716

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Wow, I thought for sure #1 GM PiLLaGe was a different account, but sc2ranks shows it is the same account used to hack to a record of 41-1 in season 1. Blizzard should have banned this guy long ago.

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Season 1 and Season 2, several reports and a complete team liquid thread. It's not like Blizzard gives anything about it really.. but hey, working as intended.

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AzurewinD United States. May 11 2011 02:10. Posts 564

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On May 11 2011 02:04 Wolf wrote:
This could be far worse. Pillage is 69-0, but he could have conceivably been doing this for hours and hours and stolen more ladder points from top players. As it stands, though, it almost seems like he's just trying to subtly let Blizzard know there's a problem that needs addressing. I haven't personally hit him on the ladder so I don't know if he talks or anything, but so far...

I think he's just making a point. If he released this to the public, we'd have a huge issue. Blizzard should figure this out soon.

This actually makes a ton of sense. 41-1 in season 1 and he wasn't caught. He could've potentially done a crapton more damage knowing that he wasn't banned between then and now.

acidfreak Romania. May 11 2011 02:11. Posts 322

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Good job Warden!

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I got this, friend will ban him right now

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dmillz Canada. May 11 2011 02:38. Posts 270

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SeleCT ran into a problem with a drop hacker yesterday, it cost him 60 ladder points. This is pretty annoying considering when he wins he gets between 3-5 points only.

RyanRushia United States. May 11 2011 02:40. Posts 2606

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think its actually tasteless... going online, taking out his boot knife, throwing it in nerds necks, and taking their ladder points

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Toadvine Poland. May 11 2011 02:49. Posts 2196

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Sorry, but I can't find a notorious hacker openly cheating his way into the top spot of the NA ladder anything but hilarious, albeit in a sort of depressing way. I wish he also used a bot to auto-queue 24h a day, therefore completely stopping GM players from laddering. I wonder how much time it would take for Blizzard to take action then.

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ogawdlulz Bangladesh. May 11 2011 02:54. Posts 61

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This is going on on EU aswell now. Some dude named ChuckNorris wins every few minutes and I lost to him while crashing at loading screen.

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http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2510911745

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Sajimo United States. May 11 2011 03:15. Posts 94

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I looked up his profile on Sc2 ranks and he has a 3v3 replay up and it only lasted 30 seconds or so. If you look at the average APM of him (with the name of Slybone) it is:

Average APM: 676469

Definitely hacks, if that hasn't been made clear already. How can someone jump that high on Grandmasters so quickly without it being spotted ASAP? I would think Blizzard has some sort of spotter for abuse of this caliber.

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NotSupporting Sweden. May 11 2011 03:28. Posts 1983

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A mate of mine just ran into the first hacker I have seen on ladder.

A guy named ChuckNorris uses d/c hack to give opponents error and game crash within 5 seconds of the game. He is 25-0 on EU with Random and all his games are less than 10sec (checked through match history). A mate got matched up against him twice just now and he gave him error twice.

On May 11 2011 02:54 ogawdlulz wrote:
This is going on on EU aswell now. Some dude named ChuckNorris wins every few minutes and I lost to him while crashing at loading screen.

same guy

Edit: Since I wrote this he made another 10 wins and is now 35-0, all of them wins in less than 5sec (making his opponent crash within 5sec).

I wonder how long it will take for blizzard to ban him, we all reported him.

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EtherealDeath United States. May 11 2011 03:31. Posts 8157

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On May 11 2011 03:28 NotSupporting wrote:
A mate of mine just ran into the first hacker I have seen on ladder.

A guy named ChuckNorris uses d/c hack to give opponents error and game crash within 5 seconds of the game. He is 25-0 on EU with Random and all his games are less than 10sec (checked through match history). A mate got matched up against him twice just now and he gave him error twice.

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same guy

I played that guy a couple months ago in the finals of the Clan OD #9 tourney o.o. I wonder if it's the same guy... maybe someone else since I suppose the name is pretty popular.

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Horse...falcon United States. May 11 2011 03:48. Posts 1733

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On May 11 2011 02:04 Wolf wrote:
This could be far worse. Pillage is 69-0, but he could have conceivably been doing this for hours and hours and stolen more ladder points from top players. As it stands, though, it almost seems like he's just trying to subtly let Blizzard know there's a problem that needs addressing. I haven't personally hit him on the ladder so I don't know if he talks or anything, but so far...

I think he's just making a point. If he released this to the public, we'd have a huge issue. Blizzard should figure this out soon.

I think he's a little prick

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price United States. May 11 2011 03:56. Posts 288

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so the APM leads me to believe he is maxing out the game? could they just change the game so that inputs at greater than 2500 APM are not accepted? or whatever insane maxes out at?

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Avi-Love Denmark. May 11 2011 03:59. Posts 222

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Yeah I just got insta crash against chucknorris aswell

xSixGeneralHan United States. May 11 2011 03:59. Posts 528

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Tbh, chances are it's the same person. He probably wants the top spot in each region.

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xSixGeneralHan United States. May 11 2011 04:01. Posts 528

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I think it's like a denial of service attack from the hacker in game based on the amount of APM and there is probably some small loophole that is created during that that makes the opponent drop

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DarKFoRcE Germany. May 11 2011 04:01. Posts 1125

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On May 11 2011 02:54 ogawdlulz wrote:
This is going on on EU aswell now. Some dude named ChuckNorris wins every few minutes and I lost to him while crashing at loading screen.

Just played that guy too.. instant game crash :|

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inimenesc Estonia. May 11 2011 04:02. Posts 275

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This makes no sense, i better be good random platinum than 5sec games from nr1...like he used up 40-50 bucks to get banned in week or two? nice going AND he bought multible accounts on different servers...

sense...it makes none.

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Toads Canada. May 11 2011 04:02. Posts 1793

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Phillage is back, i was watching select play and he play 3 time against him. phillage his now grandmaster and have 32-0 win/lose

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xSixGeneralHan United States. May 11 2011 04:09. Posts 528

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I'm not sure but I'm guessing whatever he does, the APM aspect in the patch kept whatever program he made from being able to abuse certain actions. Which makes sense because Phillage hasn't been on since last night I believe and NA got patched this am whereas chuck Norris suddenly appears and EU isn't patched.

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price United States. May 11 2011 04:09. Posts 288

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On May 11 2011 04:01 DarKFoRcE wrote:

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Just played that guy too.. instant game crash :|

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Qwix May 11 2011 04:15. Posts 531

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Had a chat with ChuckNorris in EU, he's going 46-0 strong currently.. when I asked him if he was PiLLaGe he diden't respond and logged off for a moment.. oh well, heads up to the EU Grand Masters queueing tonight...

Dirge Sweden. May 11 2011 04:32. Posts 13

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EFFING chucknorris seriously 3 losses from him now t.t

lurkman Sweden. May 11 2011 04:36. Posts 23

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if anyone knows where i could get a hold of this hack please pm me!

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DomiNater United States. May 11 2011 04:39. Posts 426

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On May 11 2011 04:36 lurkman wrote:
if anyone knows where i could get a hold of this hack please pm me!

GTFO with that shit. What the fuck is wrong with you?

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gogogadgetflow United States. May 11 2011 04:42. Posts 2583

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On May 11 2011 04:36 lurkman wrote:
if anyone knows where i could get a hold of this hack please pm me!

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Alejandrisha United States. May 11 2011 04:43. Posts 5003

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Still no blue post or even an acknowledgement from Blizz. This is pretty sad

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Signum Canada. May 11 2011 04:49. Posts 99

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On May 11 2011 04:02 inimenesc wrote:
This makes no sense, i better be good random platinum than 5sec games from nr1...like he used up 40-50 bucks to get banned in week or two? nice going AND he bought multible accounts on different servers...

sense...it makes none.

a week or two?
i wish.

i reported someone for using this very same exploit months ago and he's still not banned.

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DarKFoRcE Germany. May 11 2011 04:53. Posts 1125

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Second game vs ChuckNorris a few minutes ago, i just tabbed when i saw the loading screen -_-
Obviously game crashed shortly afterwards. I guess im done with ladder till Blizzard takes action.
Did anyone report him already?

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Kantutan Canada. May 11 2011 04:56. Posts 1319

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Blizzard probably didn't ban him the first time around because they didn't figure out how to stop it. That's my guess at least.

xSixGeneralHan United States. May 11 2011 04:57. Posts 528

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On May 11 2011 04:53 DarKFoRcE wrote:
Second game vs ChuckNorris a few minutes ago, i just tabbed when i saw the loading screen -_-
Obviously game crashed shortly afterwards. I guess im done with ladder till Blizzard takes action.
Did anyone report him already?

You might as well report him, I think Blizzard has said before if they see many reports coming in for one player that raises their red flag over anything else

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NotSupporting Sweden. May 11 2011 04:59. Posts 1983

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We are about 4-5 people reporting him at the same time after one of us crashed against him twice in a row. He should have plenty of reports by now.

pig-dude United States. May 11 2011 05:01. Posts 170

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Yet another big issue with everything going through Blizzard's service: Players cannot play on a server with a reasonably enforced hacking policy. It's a problem for SC2's popularity when the top streamers find laddering to be a waste of time.

There should be fire alarms going off at Blizzard's SC2 department right now.

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snorlax United States. May 11 2011 05:07. Posts 751

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seems pretty agervating, not sure what to do about it though T_T

Valckrie United Kingdom. May 11 2011 05:18. Posts 530

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This guy is rank 1 on NA grandmaster, is he suddenly back, didn't get banned?

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Qwix May 11 2011 05:18. Posts 531

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He logged out, it's safe, GO GO GO!

skipdog172 United States. May 11 2011 05:27. Posts 321

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It sucks so much to not even hear a response from Blizzard. It is crazy how quickly you can get direct assistance from a blizzard employee with WoW issues, but a huge issue like this in SC2 and they can't even acknowledge it or do anything... crazy.

This is making less confident that D3 will be hack-free.

Cent Canada. May 11 2011 05:30. Posts 155

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This guy is totally a hacker. All his games are impossibly short. The evidence is there.

I wonder if Pillage streams? =P

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Roblin Sweden. May 11 2011 05:31. Posts 835

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sounds like some kind of DDOS hack

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LOL WELCOME :{ same thing happen to me hes so gay

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pig-dude United States. May 11 2011 05:34. Posts 170

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On May 11 2011 05:31 Roblin wrote:
sounds like some kind of DDOS hack

What makes you think it is distributed (that is what the extra "D" means)?

Shai Canada. May 11 2011 05:39. Posts 553

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On May 11 2011 05:34 Shahrazad wrote:

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What makes you think it is distributed (that is what the extra "D" means)?

When he wrote DDOS I knew exactly what he was referring to.

If he said it was a DOS attack I would have thought it was something very, very different (though fairly commical).

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tGFuRy United States. May 11 2011 05:40. Posts 530

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This kid is a faggot seen in thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=151244
I'll quote myself again.
"This PiLLaGe guy is a douche bag and a cheater. Here are my reasons why..
First of all he's a clearly abusing ladder system not that it matters. Secondly he's hacking... Anyone who hacks is CHEATING. No matter the cause. Sure he might be fixing some bugs in the game and giving blizzard new information on new hacks (if this is even true) he still hacks on the side. For fun or for competitive play doesn't really matter... He's a hacker and a hacker is a cheater." Get a life scrub.

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FabledIntegral United States. May 11 2011 05:42. Posts 8377

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He mostly likely just found a new guest account.

teaCher Canada. May 11 2011 05:44. Posts 520

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tG fuRy calm down bud, i doubt hes hurting you, its not like u are top of GM, playing vs this guy.

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tGFuRy United States. May 11 2011 05:47. Posts 530

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On May 11 2011 05:44 sad.wish wrote:
tG fuRy calm down bud, i doubt hes hurting you, its not like u are top of GM, playing vs this guy.

This is true but I fucking hate cheaters. Taking unfair advantages in anything just pisses me off. Anyone can cheat doesn't take skill. No respect for these fuckers who cheat.

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Link[uk] United States. May 11 2011 05:48. Posts 34

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Noticed this guy yesterday checking out gm ranks. 69 wins 0 losses. Lmao resulting in a report

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Sein United States. May 11 2011 05:50. Posts 1650

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EDIT: nvm

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OFCORPSE Sweden. May 11 2011 05:52. Posts 337

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Tod lost to him earlier aswell, watching his stream his client just crashed.

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BoilOlo United States. May 11 2011 05:52. Posts 139

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just a matter of time before this guy gets what he deserves. it would be nice if Blizzard "refunded" the points he took from everyone.

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Sein United States. May 11 2011 05:58. Posts 1650

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On May 11 2011 04:59 NotSupporting wrote:

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We are about 4-5 people reporting him at the same time after one of us crashed against him twice in a row. He should have plenty of reports by now.

I'm pretty sure he got numerous reports 2 months ago when he was doing the exactly same thing. Look where he is now..

Ab0miNaTioN_BoB United States. May 11 2011 06:22. Posts 102

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He's in grandmasters lets all log on and report him!

Everize Poland. May 11 2011 06:28. Posts 176

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There is a reason why no good players tried to play ladder at night, cause everyone was getting drop hacked by pillage. oh well

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artanis2 United States. May 11 2011 06:39. Posts 732

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Well if he created the hack, it could be his passive aggressive way of letting blizzard's developers what he thinks about their skill.

Boyo United States. May 11 2011 06:43. Posts 225

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chucknorris on EU=PiLLaGe on NA? This guy running multiple comps or something?

tnud Sweden. May 11 2011 06:46. Posts 2227

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On May 11 2011 06:43 Boyo wrote:
chucknorris on EU=PiLLaGe on NA? This guy running multiple comps or something?

There are a TON of chucknorris, 80% of them have no losses. I guess many of these are guest accounts for the hacker to try his stuff on.

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TheBrofessor Canada. May 11 2011 06:56. Posts 429

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On May 11 2011 06:46 tnud wrote:

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There are a TON of chucknorris, 80% of them have no losses. I guess many of these are guest accounts for the hacker to try his stuff on.

Are they all in Masters? Remember that everyone's ratio in diamond and below shows up as 100% because the losses aren't shown anymore.

whiterabbit May 11 2011 06:58. Posts 2269

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I really would like to hear from Blizzard why they need so much time to ban a clearly a 100% hacker. You can't have more evidences then this and I guess there are like tons of reports for his hacking accounts. He is seriously ruining games for bunch of GM players on two different servers.

If he got banned 1 day after this hacking it still would've been slow response, but this is just... unacceptable and stupid.

I am always amazed how Blizzard manages to show with "little things" how they kinda don't care (by care I mean honest and helpful care) for people who made them all rich.

P.S.
As I understand this guy didn't release this hack publicly so I wouldn't be surprised that he thinks (by some weird logic) he is helping Blizzard.

And at the end of the day he kinda really does, showing them serious vulnerabilities they will patch. I bet there are tons of other smart and skillful people out there who can make this same hack at any moment and release it publicly - imagine ladder when every trollkid has this hack? Not cool. But if he keeps doing this every day Blizzard won't have choice, they will invest time and resources to fix that exploit.

I am not into programming and stuff but maybe he is not banned yet because Blizzard needs more info from his ladder hacking to understand and find fix for it.

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tnud Sweden. May 11 2011 07:01. Posts 2227

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On May 11 2011 06:56 TheBrofessor wrote:

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Are they all in Masters? Remember that everyone's ratio in diamond and below shows up as 100% because the losses aren't shown anymore.

Oh right, SHIT.
Damn you blizzard and your stupid system!!!!

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101toss May 11 2011 07:03. Posts 2309

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Looks more like a lagswitch that's behind this. Lagswitches are used on XBL to give the host an advantage, and this looks something like a lagswitch would produce.

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Zooper31 United States. May 11 2011 07:03. Posts 3426

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Why do people keep making threads about a hacker?! It absolutely infuriates me. Go to the hacker thread and post there. Email blizzard the hackers information and describe what happened.

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GertHeart United States. May 11 2011 07:04. Posts 599

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Nobody made a ChuckNorris joke on this yet? o.O;

Only ChuckNorris can beat ChuckNorris in Starcraft in less than 5 seconds.

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Grampz United States. May 11 2011 07:05. Posts 2067

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theres some dude in GM who went 40-1 last season in msaters and is like 90-0 this season in GM...wtf bliz

Legend` Canada. May 11 2011 07:08. Posts 373

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Drop hacks absolutely killed WC3 ladder (both solo and team, mostly team) so hopefully this gets fixed soon.

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ZasZ. United States. May 11 2011 07:13. Posts 1747

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On May 11 2011 06:58 whiterabbit wrote:
I really would like to hear from Blizzard why they need so much time to ban a clearly a 100% hacker. You can't have more evidences then this and I guess there are like tons of reports for his hacking accounts. He is seriously ruining games for bunch of GM players on two different servers.

If he got banned 1 day after this hacking it still would've been slow response, but this is just... unacceptable and stupid.

I am always amazed how Blizzard manages to show with "little things" how they kinda don't care (by care I mean honest and helpful care) for people who made them all rich.

P.S.
As I understand this guy didn't release this hack publicly so I wouldn't be surprised that he thinks (by some weird logic) he is helping Blizzard.

And at the end of the day he kinda really does, showing them serious vulnerabilities they will patch. I bet there are tons of other smart and skillful people out there who can make this same hack at any moment and release it publicly - imagine ladder when every trollkid has this hack? Not cool. But if he keeps doing this every day Blizzard won't have choice, they will invest time and resources to fix that exploit.

I am not into programming and stuff but maybe he is not banned yet because Blizzard needs more info from his ladder hacking to understand and find fix for it.

Yeah it could be that Blizzard doesn't care about banning hackers...

OR

They want to collect as many accounts and as much information about hacks before they do a massive sweep (which has always been how they ban hackers). Banning this guy and this guy alone will probably A) Cause him to get another account and B) Release his hack to the masses making it 10x harder to control.

If they can figure out a way to preemptively shut it down while collecting a bunch of accounts that are guilty of maphacking/drophacking/whatever, they can blow through and purge the servers in one big burst and force most of the hackers to start from scratch.

Ever since maphack in D2 Blizzard has made giant purges once or twice a year instead of banning hackers as they come up. You can trust that they have their own software as well as the hack report email people use to keep track of offenders.

On an aside, I really hope Blizzard adopts the stance where hacking will cause them to purge your account of all games (i.e. BW/WC3/WoW etc.).

XothermeK United Arab Emirates. May 11 2011 07:16. Posts 245

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I'm glad I am just a noob diamond to not face such droppers

betaflame May 11 2011 07:18. Posts 54

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what a super troll, he stops at 69 wins >.>

whiterabbit May 11 2011 07:18. Posts 2269

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On May 11 2011 07:13 ZasZ. wrote:

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Indeed.

I rly want to believe there is legit reason why this guy (and other hackers) aint yet banned. I am kinda scared to start thinking about how Blizzard doesn't care at all after I gave em bunch of money over the years for their games and subscriptions. :-)

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Gheed United States. May 11 2011 07:19. Posts 962

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On May 11 2011 07:13 ZasZ. wrote:
On an aside, I really hope Blizzard adopts the stance where hacking will cause them to purge your account of all games (i.e. BW/WC3/WoW etc.).

What would that do? Nothing forces you to put all your games on one account. I didn't connect my SC2 account to my WoW account just on the off chance I somehow got my account stolen I wouldn't lose access to both games.

Mercury- Great Britain. May 11 2011 07:22. Posts 804

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On May 11 2011 07:13 ZasZ. wrote:

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Coming from a WC3 background I'm pretty sure they don't really care about banning hackers.

Zerker Canada. May 11 2011 07:23. Posts 195

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my game crashed 4 games in a row, cant play ladder too many hackers what do?

HeadDesk United States. May 11 2011 07:28. Posts 170

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On May 11 2011 07:23 Zerker wrote:
my game crashed 4 games in a row, cant play ladder too many hackers what do?

Depending on the nature of the crash.... there might be something wrong with your client, not necessarily a hack (in fact I would lean towards re-installing client if it happened 4 times in a row).

mcht Germany. May 11 2011 07:34. Posts 168

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after the experiences in bw and wc3 it really does sound ludicrous to say that blizz is doing everything in their power against hacking

blagoonga123 United States. May 11 2011 07:45. Posts 2055

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What I want to know is how does a drop hacker get a loss?

Lol

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101toss May 11 2011 07:46. Posts 2309

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On May 11 2011 07:45 blagoonga123 wrote:
What I want to know is how does a drop hacker get a loss?

Lol

Maybe the drop hacker got drop hacked 0.o

I'm in masters (also diamond I) so obviously I know what I'm talking about

tangwhat New Zealand. May 11 2011 07:46. Posts 430

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On May 11 2011 07:45 blagoonga123 wrote:
What I want to know is how does a drop hacker get a loss?

Lol

Maybe he ran into another drop hacker and it was like a showdown in the midwest.

Zerker Canada. May 11 2011 07:48. Posts 195

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On May 11 2011 07:28 HeadDesk wrote:

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Depending on the nature of the crash.... there might be something wrong with your client, not necessarily a hack (in fact I would lean towards re-installing client if it happened 4 times in a row).

I almost never crash to desktop, like never. I drop a fair bit thats it. Also the players i dropped to were called ACE and DEVIL, Which are known hackers lol.

IzieBoy United States. May 11 2011 07:51. Posts 865

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lol i got lag hacked like that once too... i couldn't even rage quit XD

still does me wonders how it works... does the guy like spam a gazillion actions? or decrease the priority of starcraft runtime?

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hifriend Sweden. May 11 2011 07:55. Posts 5965

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Anyone that still thinks blizzard cares should know that blizzard have only been handing out bans that last for the extent of the current ladder season. I.e. those "permanent bans" they have been talking about were lifted when season 2 started, and currently banned maphackers will presumably have their accounts back for the third season.

They are extremely lenient, and it's not like they've done a good job with keeping warden up to date either.

Zeon0 Austria. May 11 2011 07:58. Posts 2542

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#1 in my division: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2116425/1/ChuckNorris/

account is ~5h old, was 4h when I first saw him. 3min avg gametime is pretty good. Wins in 4-6 sek vs ToD, Lowely and other GMs pretty good too.

but the fact that ChuckNorris 74-0's with random is pretty hilarious^^

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Laneir United States. May 11 2011 08:03. Posts 1099

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On May 11 2011 07:58 Zeon0 wrote:
#1 in my division: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2116425/1/ChuckNorris/

account is ~5h old, was 4h when I first saw him. 3min avg gametime is pretty good. Wins in 4-6 sek vs ToD, Lowely and other GMs pretty good too.

but the fact that ChuckNorris 74-0's with random is pretty hilarious^^

Hey man ChurckNorris is a beast i can believe that win ratio you dont mess with Chuck

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pig-dude United States. May 11 2011 08:30. Posts 170

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On May 11 2011 07:22 Mercury- wrote:

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On May 11 2011 07:13 ZasZ. wrote:

Coming from a WC3 background I'm pretty sure they don't really care about banning hackers.

Well, why deal with hackers when there is rampant portrait farming? That is the true threat to ladder.

IMLyte Canada. May 11 2011 08:32. Posts 671

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this guy is 1st on grandmaster :O Blizzard where are u?

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TheTurk United States. May 11 2011 09:27. Posts 713

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Drophack is becoming popular.
This same guy Pillage cost DignitasSelect like 5% drop in win rate.
He's top of NA ladder with 69 wins 0 losses (lol 69, right?).
Blizzard needs to do something about it.

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Nemasyst.598 United States. May 11 2011 09:29. Posts 285

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Oh god, he's 69-0
Obvious hacker

Sucks that people actually do this crap to feel cool D:

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price United States. May 11 2011 09:32. Posts 288

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On May 11 2011 07:46 tangwhat wrote:

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Maybe he ran into another drop hacker and it was like a showdown in the midwest.

so the guy buys the game and plays his first ladder match and loses. he's like wtf, i'm never losing again! mwahaha! i'll show them!

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Jibba United States. May 11 2011 09:32. Posts 20205

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This is pretty pathetic, and quite frankly it's infuriating that this is the company we're all dedicated to. Pillage isn't a new cheater that will get swept up in the next ban wave. He's an old cheater who wasn't caught in the last ban wave and right now he's dominating the GM ladders.

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2510911745

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Cite Australia. May 11 2011 09:36. Posts 237

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Its apparently horribly easy to find too but from what the site says its from they are reporting 1.3.3 has fixed it and thats why you've seen a boom in people trying to abuse it before 1.3.3 though thats just going off what they're saying on the site.

Xolo Canada. May 11 2011 10:47. Posts 107

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Blizz will probably give him a 3 day suspension and let him keep his ladder stats, since thats exactly what they did to hackers a few weeks ago when they announced another hacker sweep.

blade55555 United States. May 11 2011 10:52. Posts 14114

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On May 11 2011 09:32 Jibba wrote:
This is pretty pathetic, and quite frankly it's infuriating that this is the company we're all dedicated to. Pillage isn't a new cheater that will get swept up in the next ban wave. He's an old cheater who wasn't caught in the last ban wave and right now he's dominating the GM ladders.

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2510911745

yeah

. It really is times like these I miss iccup days of banning cheaters insanely fast :D. I am surprised he hasn't been removed from GM or anything -_-.

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bubblegumbo Taiwan. May 11 2011 11:07. Posts 1293

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The fact that Blizzard allowed this guy to get away without a permanent ban makes the GM league a joke, there are probably people who hack every now and then as well. It matters because getting a high ranking here is suppose to mean something for real offline tournaments in the near future I am sure.

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JoeCrow United States. May 11 2011 11:14. Posts 165

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On May 11 2011 11:07 bubblegumbo wrote:
The fact that Blizzard allowed this guy to get away without a permanent ban makes the GM league a joke, there are probably people who hack every now and then as well. It matters because getting a high ranking here is suppose to mean something for real offline tournaments in the near future I am sure.

There is a tradeoff to banning the hacks immediately. If you wait a little bit, then it basically builds confidence among hacker community that the hack is safe, and blizzard can catch more people who use the hacks when they finally pull the trigger.

Petrina United States. May 11 2011 11:20. Posts 173

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Yes but until then he causes permanent damage to the ladder by

1) Lowering the trust we put in the system
2) Causing losses to random people in the GM and high masters, therefore messing with the point system.

Sein United States. May 11 2011 11:23. Posts 1650

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On May 11 2011 11:14 JoeCrow wrote:

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That reasoning doesn't work for cases like this. You don't need a warden to see that this guy is using a drop hack. Numerous reports on the same guy about dropping people. Evidences caught on stream. He has an impossible record with all his games being shorter than 2-3 minutes. He has like a million APM according to the replays. It's so blatantly obvious to anyone's eyes. If this guy is banned, the hackers aren't going to think "oh, my drophack must have been detected".

To make it worse, he's pulled this same BS 2 months ago with many people reporting him and threads about it being made in TL and the official bnet forums. He is still here, this time actually reaching GM #1.

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Lochat United States. May 11 2011 11:26. Posts 270

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I'll copy-paste from one of the links here, since the guy on the Blizzard forums pointed out how silly these wave-bans are.

"3. The ban wave system doesn't work as well for SC2 as it does for WoW. Players have less time and money invested into their accounts than they do in WoW. While the idea is that you can make a big statement and actually catch more people, you're not actually preventing people from cheating. A ban wave comes out every 4 months and SC2 sells for $50 or less right now. That means if you want to continually cheat in SC2, it costs you less per month than a WoW subscription." -- Jujube.

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stupidhydro United States. May 11 2011 11:33. Posts 208

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While we're all quick to get angry at blizzard etc, I'm pretty sure these accounts have been closed but the records are not erased or anything. Someone on my university's CSL team made the top 200 list (before GM league existed) and was banned for either win farming or maphacking (I don't really know the story) but he was banned and could not access his account but his battle.net profile still showed his same record and it was available for search on sc2ranks, so unless people are still actively running into these drop hackers on ladder I think we can stop bumping that blizzard thread and such and getting angry at blizzard. I'm sure the account itself will be removed from GM league soon enough.

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FeiLing Germany. May 11 2011 11:35. Posts 417

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On May 11 2011 11:26 Lochat wrote:
I'll copy-paste from one of the links here, since the guy on the Blizzard forums pointed out how silly these wave-bans are.

"That means if you want to continually cheat in SC2, it costs you less per month than a WoW subscription." -- Jujube.

When the expansions are there, it actually is gonna cost them a bit more. That is, if they start to actually ban people and not suspend them just for the current season (that's what I heard they are actually doing... and yes that sounds like the most stupid joke ever, but apparently it's true).

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TheKRoc United States. May 11 2011 11:37. Posts 74

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This kind of stuff makes me feel bad for all of those involved. The hacker should be pitied, because he cheats in a pretty competitive setting, and the victims obviously should be pitied because of the lack of competition when facing a cheater.

Think about it.

Sworn Canada. May 11 2011 11:38. Posts 834

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On May 11 2011 11:35 FeiLing wrote:

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I dont think you will have to buy all 3 expansions just to play on one of their ladders so it wont cost them more. I think blizz should just put some effort into figuring out these hacks and ban the ones making it high enough to get notice. Anyone 60-0 should be checked then banned simple as that.

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Kooun Canada. May 11 2011 11:49. Posts 242

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Hackers are impossible to stop in a computer game. For every hacker they banned , two more will pop out.. like daisies! (i love mulan ^^) . Every time a new patch hits , they'll always find a counter to it. It's one of these things that we have to put up with.

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Grobyc Canada. May 11 2011 12:06. Posts 16972

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On May 11 2011 11:49 Daiki wrote:
Hackers are impossible to stop in a computer game. For every hacker they banned , two more will pop out.. like daisies! (i love mulan ^^) . Every time a new patch hits , they'll always find a counter to it. It's one of these things that we have to put up with.

That's fine, but it's still easily possible to severely limit the hackers. Think of the TL ban list for an analogy

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Dsn4001 Korea (South). May 11 2011 12:11. Posts 101

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Damn, I got dropped by this guy yesterday.

Goodbye 10 points.

iPBioOrMech Turkey. May 11 2011 12:28. Posts 297

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On May 11 2011 11:26 Lochat wrote:
I'll copy-paste from one of the links here, since the guy on the Blizzard forums pointed out how silly these wave-bans are.

"3. The ban wave system doesn't work as well for SC2 as it does for WoW. Players have less time and money invested into their accounts than they do in WoW. While the idea is that you can make a big statement and actually catch more people, you're not actually preventing people from cheating. A ban wave comes out every 4 months and SC2 sells for $50 or less right now. That means if you want to continually cheat in SC2, it costs you less per month than a WoW subscription." -- Jujube.

Thats crazy i wish they were move active on the ban system, maybe they should atleast remove the obvious ones out=/

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Brutaxilos United States. May 11 2011 12:36. Posts 864

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can we just make that change that if someone leaves before the first 2 minutes it doesnt count?

Let it Raine Canada. May 11 2011 12:41. Posts 1109

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it would be good till people abused it by leaving every time they matched vs someone good

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skindzer Chile. May 11 2011 13:00. Posts 4307

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I dont know why you people are mad, im actually happy someone (hackers) is actually doing something to show Blizz "in their face" that they cant manage a ladder for shit. Remember when WGTour got "sponsored" by blizzard?

I honestly hope the GM ladder gets filled with hackers. The sooner blizzard realized battle net 2.0 is a complete failure the better for the community.

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GertHeart United States. May 11 2011 13:05. Posts 599

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On May 11 2011 13:00 skindzer wrote:
I dont know why you people are mad, im actually happy someone (hackers) is actually doing something to show Blizz "in their face" that they cant manage a ladder for shit. Remember when WGTour got "sponsored" by blizzard?

I honestly hope the GM ladder gets filled with hackers. The sooner blizzard realized battle net 2.0 is a complete failure the better for the community.

Problem is Bnet 2.0 isn't a failure, it's not Incredible, but it's not a failure.

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Endymion United States. May 11 2011 13:08. Posts 2477

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On May 11 2011 13:05 GertHeart wrote:

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Problem is Bnet 2.0 isn't a failure, it's not Incredible, but it's not a failure.

yes it is >.>, iccup/pgtour has been out for years without having a lot of hackers like we're currently seeing on bnet2.0

It left us speechless, quite speechless I tell you, and we have not stopped talking of it since.

VIB Brazil. May 11 2011 13:19. Posts 3567

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On May 11 2011 11:49 Daiki wrote:
Hackers are impossible to stop in a computer game.

Uhhh... no. Good coding can prevent hackers. Hackers are basically exploiting flaws. If there are no flaws, there are no hackers.

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101toss May 11 2011 13:26. Posts 2309

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On May 11 2011 13:19 VIB wrote:

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Uhhh... no. Good coding can prevent hackers. Hackers are basically exploiting flaws. If there are no flaws, there are no hackers.

Blizzard simply has bad programmers. Remember the custom
games fiasco where the "hours played" would loop to zero after reaching 19 hours played due to int overflow? This was a novice mistake, an overlook committed to save memory (don't get me wrong, I appreciate memory use reduction, especially when sc2 has so many memory leaks). Or remember where the ability to warp in immortals was merely dummies out by removing the button, but the mechanism was still there and thus exploited?

Bliz hires great programmers, that's for sure.

I'm in masters (also diamond I) so obviously I know what I'm talking about

Jibba United States. May 11 2011 13:41. Posts 20205

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On May 11 2011 11:14 JoeCrow wrote:

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The problem is it doesn't actually prevent cheating for SC2 the way it does for WoW. If you enjoy cheating in SC2, it'll cost you $50 every 4 months which is less than a WoW subscription.

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101toss May 11 2011 13:44. Posts 2309

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On May 11 2011 13:41 Jibba wrote:

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The problem is it doesn't actually prevent cheating for SC2 the way it does for WoW. If you enjoy cheating in SC2, it'll cost you $50 every 4 months which is less than a WoW subscription.

Isn't this want blizzard wants, since they are essentially having one person pay a shitton for multiple copies of the game?

I'm in masters (also diamond I) so obviously I know what I'm talking about

XXXSmOke United States. May 11 2011 15:10. Posts 1132

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Wow this Pillage guy is currently #1 in GM league at 69-0..................

Hmmmmmm, doesnt seem to hard to pick out for blizz.

Im honestly puzzled.

Baarn United States. May 11 2011 16:03. Posts 2392

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On May 11 2011 13:44 101toss wrote:

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Isn't this want blizzard wants, since they are essentially having one person pay a shitton for multiple copies of the game?

Pay a shit ton for what? A trial account you can ask for in a seperate thread people will give you if you ask. That's all the hackers use. Maybe if limitation were put on them so you couldn't climb to gm on one it would be more of a deterrent to this problem than hoping they were stupid and actually bought the game. Blizzard knows this since launch and no restriction yet.

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Treemonkeys United States. May 11 2011 23:14. Posts 2047

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Did I get dropped hacked?

The weird thing is it didn't say they were slowing down the game, it slowed down my SC2 to the point that it was completely unplayable, less than one frame a second. While it was happening I could quickly and easily alt-tab out to browse the web or whatever, so my computer itself wasn't bogged down, just SC2. Then after a few minutes of being completely unplayable, I was dropped from the game. As soon as I got back to the menu the game was running smooth as normal and it hasn't done that since.

Has anyone encountered this?

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KOtical Germany. May 11 2011 23:20. Posts 162

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On May 11 2011 23:14 Treemonkeys wrote:
Did I get dropped hacked?

The weird thing is it didn't say they were slowing down the game, it slowed down my SC2 to the point that it was completely unplayable, less than one frame a second. While it was happening I could quickly and easily alt-tab out to browse the web or whatever, so my computer itself wasn't bogged down, just SC2. Then after a few minutes of being completely unplayable, I was dropped from the game. As soon as I got back to the menu the game was running smooth as normal and it hasn't done that since.

Has anyone encountered this?

had the same issues some weeks ago... i started a threat but nobody was believing me back than...
the threat was closed, and some of the forum users here just hatet against me... funny to see... if a master league guy has a problem everyones believing him... if a silver league guy asks that question nobody believes him... sad to see...
on my case i talked to my opponent so long that maybe after 10 minutes he stopped the hack and wanted to attack me... fortunatly i had my bunkers up and won the game after that...

SirPirate United States. May 12 2011 00:42. Posts 17

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I actually had something similar happen to me during my second placement match just after the game was released. I'd just assumed Blizzard had fixed this by now. =/

tGFuRy United States. May 12 2011 01:30. Posts 530

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Couldn't Blizzard just locate his IP address and ban the IP address?

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loadme May 12 2011 01:33. Posts 171

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On May 12 2011 01:30 tGFuRy wrote:
Couldn't Blizzard just locate his IP address and ban the IP address?

ip adresses may change frequently.
you would need to ban his mac adress, as it identifies his network controler and probably also his mainboard.

Yes.

tGFuRy United States. May 12 2011 01:38. Posts 530

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On May 12 2011 01:33 loadme wrote:

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ip adresses may change frequently.
you would need to ban his mac adress, as it identifies his network controler and probably also his mainboard.

How do you find a mac address?

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kmkkmk Germany. May 12 2011 01:39. Posts 418

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On May 11 2011 13:19 VIB wrote:

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Uhhh... no. Good coding can prevent hackers. Hackers are basically exploiting flaws. If there are no flaws, there are no hackers.

Uhh ... no. Unless the game runs on a blizzard host and sends only data, that the player needs, you cannot prevent maphacks.

kmkkmk Germany. May 12 2011 01:42. Posts 418

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On May 12 2011 01:33 loadme wrote:

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ip adresses may change frequently.
you would need to ban his mac adress, as it identifies his network controler and probably also his mainboard.

a) mac addresses are easy to fake
b) mac addresses don't leave your segment, that is blizzard or any other guy on the internet cannot see your mac address unless they break into your lan.

Ozx United States. May 12 2011 01:43. Posts 54

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On May 12 2011 01:33 loadme wrote:

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ip adresses may change frequently.
you would need to ban his mac adress, as it identifies his network controler and probably also his mainboard.

mac addresses are easily spoofable. In fact changing my routers mac address is what allows me to change my IP address. anyways there are plenty of ways around IP/hardware bans. it would be a lot simpler to just ban his account.

FinBenton Finland. May 12 2011 01:45. Posts 824

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On May 12 2011 01:33 loadme wrote:

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ip adresses may change frequently.
you would need to ban his mac adress, as it identifies his network controler and probably also his mainboard.

You can easily change mac address also.

thebigdonkey United States. May 12 2011 01:56. Posts 347

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On May 12 2011 01:43 Ozx wrote:

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Agreed. Banning his accounts means he has to keep paying for the game if he wants to continue to hack.

Danjoh Sweden. May 12 2011 01:56. Posts 404

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On May 12 2011 01:33 loadme wrote:

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ip adresses may change frequently.
you would need to ban his mac adress, as it identifies his network controler and probably also his mainboard.

a decent router can change mac adress also.

Might take 20 minutes before your ISP will releases your old one tho.

edit: damnit... wrote my message, then watched QXC invade other peoples stream before I posted...

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Grampz United States. May 12 2011 02:08. Posts 2067

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On May 11 2011 08:32 Mutality wrote:
this guy is 1st on grandmaster :O Blizzard where are u?

http://sc2ranks.com/us/2688364/PiLLaGe

thats who i was talking about wtf

ElPeque.fogata Uruguay. May 12 2011 02:08. Posts 427

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the bad thing is...

pros will try not to play when this retard is online or else they will go down quickly.

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twoCube United States. May 12 2011 02:30. Posts 31

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Yea. It happened to me in a 3v3 yesterday. Funny thing was, my friend and I just disregarded it, claiming "Blizzard's servers are currently sucking" and played more custom matches.

Hmmmm..... I've gotta check that replay.

aksfjh United States. May 12 2011 02:52. Posts 3505

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Kinda ridiculous Blizzard hasn't taken any action over this yet. You'd think they would jump all over this the second he showed up in GM. The only possibility I can think of why they wouldn't is that they're still trying to figure out how he's doing it.

dani` Netherlands. May 12 2011 02:57. Posts 2157

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On May 12 2011 02:52 aksfjh wrote:
Kinda ridiculous Blizzard hasn't taken any action over this yet. You'd think they would jump all over this the second he showed up in GM. The only possibility I can think of why they wouldn't is that they're still trying to figure out how he's doing it.

I'd say first ban him, then check out what he did using server logs. No need to keep him active, unless they don't have enough information to prevent this in the future and are following his moves whenever he logs on :x

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malaan May 12 2011 03:03. Posts 339

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there is no way in shit you can have a computer not good enough to run SC2 on lowest settings. I can run it on low on my shitty $200 work laptop ffs.....

SacredSoul United States. May 12 2011 03:15. Posts 76

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On May 12 2011 03:03 malaan wrote:
there is no way in shit you can have a computer not good enough to run SC2 on lowest settings. I can run it on low on my shitty $200 work laptop ffs.....

I have 3 that can't run it, dick... Why call out the poor people here?

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Legend` Canada. May 12 2011 03:17. Posts 373

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The hack that he used no longer works in 1.33

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bloodmeat United States. May 12 2011 03:23. Posts 160

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On May 11 2011 04:36 lurkman wrote:
if anyone knows where i could get a hold of this hack please pm me!

User was banned for this post.

Why can't Blizzard be as fast as Team Liquid? What I think is funny is this guy was doing it in Season 1 and still has his account to do it in Season 2.

I mean, I understand the concept of letting people think it's safe to use hacks and then getting a lot of them at once, but jeeze. Eventually you have to do something.

Your mom is ruining esports.

FabledIntegral United States. May 12 2011 03:26. Posts 8377

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On May 12 2011 03:03 malaan wrote:
there is no way in shit you can have a computer not good enough to run SC2 on lowest settings. I can run it on low on my shitty $200 work laptop ffs.....

Go away.

Treemonkeys United States. May 12 2011 04:15. Posts 2047

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On May 12 2011 02:30 twoCube wrote:

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Yeah so I went back and watched the replay, it's really strange because the replay makes my game slow down the same way as when it happened on ladder!

It came to a complete crawl where the UI would hardly respond and I had to quit out. Either it is some very obscure bug with the game or that guy was using some kind of hack or exploit. I am going to send the replay to Blizzard and hopefully that guy will get banned if needed. Sadly, if you do some poking around hacker forums you will find that they are quite common and easy, and they seem to have a good idea of how to now get caught.

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-Zoda- France. May 12 2011 04:23. Posts 1073

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What surprises me in this is the reaction of the moderator on the linked thread before (this one). He says Blizzard cannot delete this account, because they are limited by their own programs.
How the hell could they have been so arrogant to think they didn't needed any solution "in case of" ? Did they seriously think their system was unbreakable by any means ?

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EDIT: Clicked on quote trying to edit, sorry.

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KaiserReinhard United States. May 12 2011 04:27. Posts 509

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On March 11 2011 01:44 Eknoid4 wrote:
This is the kind of logic you are "using"

Jumping to Conclusions

Saw this on the first page. I bet this guy feels silly now, wherever he is.

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closey Hong Kong. May 12 2011 12:27. Posts 272

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On May 12 2011 03:03 malaan wrote:
there is no way in shit you can have a computer not good enough to run SC2 on lowest settings. I can run it on low on my shitty $200 work laptop ffs.....

I still keep my Dell computer that I bought from 1998, UNMODIFIED.

Single core CPU, 500MB ram, 10GB harddisk storage space.

Now you try install SC2 and play on it

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mangina United States. May 12 2011 12:36. Posts 230

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this guy is definitely suspicious
he doesnt have that many games played, and has a nearly perfect record (last time i checked, he did)
i saw him get matched up with select on his stream. this guy pillage has the funniest match history
its all wins and games all within a couple of minutes of each other.
I have no idea what he's doing but hes already at the top of the ladder, it kinda messes up the ladder points for the players in grandmasters that play a lot.

Carapas Canada. May 12 2011 13:02. Posts 242

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http://sc2ranks.com/eu/2116425/ChuckNorris#5:2011
Looks like there is now a hacker on EU... I was just chilling on sc2ranks chart and this guy has 79 win 0 loses on random, definetely suspicious.

briandawkins United States. May 12 2011 14:02. Posts 19

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On May 12 2011 04:23 -Zoda- wrote:
What surprises me in this is the reaction of the moderator on the linked thread before (this one). He says Blizzard cannot delete this account, because they are limited by their own programs.
How the hell could they have been so arrogant to think they didn't needed any solution "in case of" ? Did they seriously think their system was unbreakable by any means ?

Just to be clear: ExcaliburZ is an MVP (sort of equivalent to TL highlighted user) but not a moderator on those forums.

sOAvoid Canada. May 12 2011 14:18. Posts 199

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pillage is 69 -0 grandmasters lol

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kinetic_skink Australia. May 12 2011 14:35. Posts 125

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Neither of them have played a game in 2 days, so they may have been banned. Worth keeping an eye on for any more activity

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VIB Brazil. May 12 2011 16:28. Posts 3567

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On May 12 2011 01:39 kmkkmk wrote:

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Uhh ... no. Unless the game runs on a blizzard host and sends only data, that the player needs, you cannot prevent maphacks.

No? You don't need to run the "game", but only a very simple and resource cheap algorithm just to check vision. And it doesn't even need to be on a "blizzard server". Ex.: on tourneys like TSL a third party trusted judge with low latency could do that.

Technologically, map hacks are trivial to solve. And drop hacks are just... stupid to even talk about. It's just flat poor coding that causes it to exist. Any hack is an exploit of a security flaw. Any hack can be fixed with changing your code and/or design architecture.

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GenoPsydE Canada. May 12 2011 16:47. Posts 86

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On May 12 2011 16:28 VIB wrote:

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Agreed. Do we have any confirmation that any correctional coding has been planned or implemented yet? Or are we still at the mercy of Blizz to do something when, and if, they want?

Confirmation will come from some <random> ~wave~ of bans...

Whatever. I can't wait for this sort of shenanigans to stop.

Pz.

Blaec Australia. May 12 2011 18:03. Posts 3821

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On May 12 2011 14:35 kinetic_skink wrote:
Neither of them have played a game in 2 days, so they may have been banned. Worth keeping an eye on for any more activity

You think its a coincidence that he stopped at 69 wins?

bwally United States. May 12 2011 18:10. Posts 670

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This hack is possible even with blizzard hosting the games. It's a pretty big glaring hole in their implementation for this to be possible by one of the clients. They've had this type of hack since Beta.

KillerMZE Israel. May 12 2011 20:49. Posts 22

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Here's my speculation as to how the hack worked, and why it should no longer work (i.e. safe to ladder):
There have been reports of very high APM from the hacker. Presumably he uses a macro which spams many action without delay between them (can be done easily with only a macro program). Too many actions cause problems with the connection (they all have to be transferred), and forces opponent to drop.
However, last patch had the "no artificially increased APM" fix. None of these hackers had any games played after the patch, so I think that this means the hack is nullified.
My guess is, since the issue was patched so closely to the hack, is that the issue was found out by a QA tester, and somehow leaked to the hacker. The hacker knew that this issue would be patched quickly, so he had a small window to take advantage of it.
Think about it, why else would that fix be included in the patch? Doesn't seem like Blizz wanted to stop people from APM spamming to 400 and showing off their e-peen...

Wolf Korea (South). May 13 2011 02:37. Posts 3039

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AmX on the EU server just hacked against me using this drop hack. He's currently 48-7 and an extremely bad player.

Hell, I'll upload the replay. I play embarrassingly badly (proxy gate and then lose my probe) and still pull out a win (he pulls all of his SCVs and randomly attacks me and I easily hold, go to counter attack), until he drop hacks. The replay file even stutters where he hacks. It's so weird.

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DexVitality Hong Kong. May 14 2011 23:18. Posts 177

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Ahh I knew it... I didn't think anyone could go 69-0.... even if it was a smurf. I assume he is banned now?

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ODieN United States. May 14 2011 23:22. Posts 2397

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On May 14 2011 23:18 DexVitality wrote:
Ahh I knew it... I didn't think anyone could go 69-0.... even if it was a smurf. I assume he is banned now?

Either that or his 7 hour trial expired.

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openbox1 May 14 2011 23:24. Posts 1232

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I don't think temp accounts can play multiplayer.

Ancient.TL Romania. May 15 2011 00:36. Posts 37

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Is that a hack ? I thought that was a fix for terran, to compensate the mules.

emythrel United Kingdom. May 15 2011 00:38. Posts 2261

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On May 14 2011 23:24 openbox1 wrote:
I don't think temp accounts can play multiplayer.

Guest accounts function just like normal ones, they just have a time limit. This enables people to trial the game and then not have to start over if they buy it (assuming they keep the same bnet account)

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Th0R Canada. May 15 2011 09:03. Posts 328

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He's 69-0 on GM ladder. Yeah most likely a hacker

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sTsCompleted United States. May 15 2011 11:04. Posts 380

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Was this really worth a whole thread?

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