| Nairi Finland. April 06 2011 11:09. Posts 75 | Profile # |
if a zerg fast expands how quickly can he get 12 mutas? according to the list spire is done at 8:13 but presumably 12 mutas can not be made immidiately?
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 IzieBoy United States. April 06 2011 11:28. Posts 865 | Profile Blog # |
favorite rush is the blink stalker one... anyone have replays for blink stalker and dark templar rushes?
EDIT: I got the ones from the OP. I was wondering if I can get more examples of well executed ones.
P.S. Can we get some replays for 1 Rax FE? Preferably from a tourney?Last edit: 2011-04-06 11:45:38 |
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| wo1fwood United States. April 06 2011 21:09. Posts 2264 | Profile Blog # |
On April 06 2011 11:09 Nairi wrote:
if a zerg fast expands how quickly can he get 12 mutas? according to the list spire is done at 8:13 but presumably 12 mutas can not be made immidiately?
you're only going to get about 5-8 mutas on the first pop depending on when the spire went down. I need to do some research into fastest times vs. average pro times as I've seen the spire complete about 1 minute later than this timing quite a lot.
Edit: As I suspected, the average 2 base spire timing completed around 9:12 with 5-9 mutas being available at that time. This was however extremely dependent on the amount of pressure put on the zerg. Sometimes they could get the spire out a 8:14, other times 9:50. Sometimes they had the spire but could not produce any mutas.Last edit: 2011-04-12 05:57:02 |
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| statikg Canada. April 06 2011 22:06. Posts 929 | Profile # |
| Typically mutas come at 10-13 minutes, if they hit you before 10 I have to say you probably didn't apply enough early game pressure. At least in TvZ mutas basically ALWAYS come. The only macro game situation in which you won't see mutas is if you see infestors first. Then you might still see mutas, but not for a while, and when they do come they probably will come in numbers too large to defend by turrets, build one turret in the middle of your mineral line anyway. If you can't find a spire, and there is no giant 2base baneling bust coming and no infestors, they have hidden it, prepare for mutas anyway. |
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| Alexbeav Greece. April 06 2011 22:30. Posts 56 | Profile # |
| i love you man! life-saving post! might actually make me switch to random from terran once i get my 250 wins achi :D |
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| BioDiesel United States. April 06 2011 23:09. Posts 194 | Profile # |
| Awesome thread! Makes it easy to see where you're at when coming up with a new build. |
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| CrayonKing Cambodia. April 09 2011 00:39. Posts 124 | Profile # |
What is the best way to defend against a 4WG rush or any early rush by P if you 1rax FE.
Is dropping 2 rax infront of ur nat sufficient? |
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| wo1fwood United States. April 09 2011 01:50. Posts 2264 | Profile Blog # |
On April 09 2011 00:39 CrayonKing wrote:
What is the best way to defend against a 4WG rush or any early rush by P if you 1rax FE.
Is dropping 2 rax infront of ur nat sufficient?
I assume you mean 2 bunkers and not rax, but this should answer your question:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=209914 |
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| lelantos United States. April 09 2011 11:30. Posts 41 | Profile # |
| great guide really helped me but whats difference between say 4 warpgate and 4 gate with 1 gas? |
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| Tonic420 Canada. April 09 2011 12:06. Posts 59 | Profile # |
| Best thread ever! Thank you so much for posting this, will help a ton when trying to analyze my replays! |
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| wo1fwood United States. April 09 2011 21:17. Posts 2264 | Profile Blog # | |
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| wo1fwood United States. April 09 2011 23:02. Posts 2264 | Profile Blog # |
| Banner has been added to the OP! |
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| Distortionz United States. April 10 2011 01:09. Posts 131 | Profile Blog # |
| I really like this guide.. I think its a great idea. I feel alot of people can't really stick to multiple BO's and have no idea about the importance of timing within them. As day9 said in one of his daily's.. in most cases using timing, you can even tell the spawn location of the other players. |
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| wo1fwood United States. April 13 2011 06:35. Posts 2264 | Profile Blog # |
| Added a quick references section. There's also a Broodwar guide by Chill that explains the importance of timing. |
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| rsvp United States. April 13 2011 06:40. Posts 2076 | Profile Blog # |
K4G timing seems a bit off... if research is done at 4 7, then zealots should be in the opponent's base 10 seconds later, 4:10 at the latest not 4:19. |
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| wo1fwood United States. April 13 2011 06:48. Posts 2264 | Profile Blog # |
On April 13 2011 06:40 Anihc wrote:K4G timing seems a bit off... if research is done at 4 7, then zealots should be in the opponent's base 10 seconds later, 4:10 at the latest not 4:19.
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| da_head Canada. April 13 2011 07:12. Posts 3127 | Profile Blog # |
wow sick thread. bookmarked  |
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| JasinAli Sweden. April 13 2011 07:40. Posts 36 | Profile # |
Would anyone be so kind to get the timing for planetary fortress rush? I dont play terran so mine wouldnt be optimal  |
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| wo1fwood United States. April 13 2011 08:04. Posts 2264 | Profile Blog # |
On April 13 2011 07:40 JasinAli wrote:Would anyone be so kind to get the timing for planetary fortress rush? I dont play terran so mine wouldnt be optimal
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| Xanczor United States. April 14 2011 08:53. Posts 254 | Profile Blog # |
| Could you add the mass ling infestor +1 attack and +1 armor for zerg? thanks. |
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