On May 11 2012 11:56 mo_ wrote: I think between this and The Avengers its going to be neck and neck.
I eagerly await as to what the numbers will be on opening weekend in the U.S
I don't think it will be neck to neck. Considering how The Dark Knight Rises is suppose to be Nolan's last Batman movie, there is a lot of hype for it. It will beat The Avengers in terms of sales and the records that The Avengers broke. It will be surprising if the two movies ended up making around the same. At the end of the day, I could care less about records and how much money a movie made. What really matters is how the movie turns out. I loved The Avengers and now that it's out of the way, my anticipation is this along with Prometheus.
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Telcontar United Kingdom. May 24 2012 20:18. Posts 15851
The plot info in the OP seems wrong when it says it's picking up right where it left off, it takes place like 8 years after the Dark Knight iirc.
Anyway I'm super excited for this movie, watched the first two in theaters and although I'm not to thrilled by the trailer, I'm sure Nolan won't disappoint.
zoLo United States. June 04 2012 14:22. Posts 4509
On May 25 2012 01:51 Chronos. wrote: The plot info in the OP seems wrong when it says it's picking up right where it left off, it takes place like 8 years after the Dark Knight iirc.
Anyway I'm super excited for this movie, watched the first two in theaters and although I'm not to thrilled by the trailer, I'm sure Nolan won't disappoint.
That is because the last time the OP was edited/updated was back in 2011.
Didn't get around to watching Batman Begins or The Dark Knight until significantly after both were released. I absolutely loved them. Batman Begins was more mindless action (but cool with the trial by... ice and his general development) and The Dark Knight really had that signature Christopher Nolan mind-screwing (arguably yeah, he doesn't make the most intellectual movies out there of course, but he can direct quite interesting/thought-provoking movies yet maintain the appeal to the masses), and I look forward a ton to this
"It has always been in my observation of human nature, that a man who has any good reason to believe in himself never flourishes himself before the faces of other people in order that they may believe in him."
zoLo United States. June 04 2012 14:56. Posts 4509
I don't see how you can say Batman Begins had mindless action. If you want mindless action then watch Transformers. You can't even make out what is happening most of the time because of the closeup shots or the shaky camera. The action in Batman Begins had some of the shaky camera work, but it wasn't done to death like the Transformers movies. You can tell just fine what is going on.
Aerisky United States. June 04 2012 14:59. Posts 9223
Ah I qualified that statement with "more", should also have added that it was more mindless action than its sequel (so I have the effect of "it was more focused on action than TDK" rather than "yeah it was just more of your Hollywood big-budget mindless action"), sorry. I also have no complaints with shaky cam in general usually, except sometimes in found footage films such as Cloverfield which have quite a bit of shaky cam, and it gets a bit disorienting ^^
In other words, I think TDK got a lot more psychological etc, maybe Christopher Nolan was allowed to put some more of his ideas in place and/or felt more comfortable doing so.
One thing that has always really bothered me is the fact that Rachel Dawes is played by different actors in BB and TDK, haha. Maybe it's just me >.<
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"It has always been in my observation of human nature, that a man who has any good reason to believe in himself never flourishes himself before the faces of other people in order that they may believe in him."
Hard to say, really. Avengers had mass appeal, that's what got it its huge box office numbers. Plot does not have a direct impact on box office numbers. At the same time, TDK smashed a ton of records when it came out, and TDKR could very well smash existing records. I'm pretty sure it's near impossible to "blow Avengers out of the water" because it made some serious bank, but it has a good shot at beating it. It remains to be seen whether it'll perform better than Avengers.
"It has always been in my observation of human nature, that a man who has any good reason to believe in himself never flourishes himself before the faces of other people in order that they may believe in him."
Brutaxilos United States. June 04 2012 15:20. Posts 864
On June 04 2012 15:09 hai2u wrote: this wont make more than the avengers at the box office.
Kinda a useless comment, honestly. But I'm willing to bet you're wrong.
Anyways, I felt like these commercials were a bit too comical. The trailers honestly made me get chills down my spines but these were just a little weird.
Aerisky United States. June 04 2012 15:25. Posts 9223
Pandering to the general public so that more people come to watch maybe? >< Also there's the fact that they're only 30 seconds, can't achieve that epic feeling as well in 30 sec perhaps so maybe they just decided to go for the comical. I did think these commercials were a bit awkward as well though.
"It has always been in my observation of human nature, that a man who has any good reason to believe in himself never flourishes himself before the faces of other people in order that they may believe in him."
zoLo United States. June 04 2012 16:00. Posts 4509
On May 11 2012 11:56 mo_ wrote: I think between this and The Avengers its going to be neck and neck.
I eagerly await as to what the numbers will be on opening weekend in the U.S
This movie will probably blow avengers out of the water. It will very likely have a far superior plot.
Plot has nothing to do with how much a movie will make. If you want an example, look at the third Transformers movie, which made a lot of money despite how "bad" it is. The reason why The Avengers made a lot of money and broke records is because it has been hyped up since the ending of 2008's Iron Man. It was very unique because no one has ever done what Marvel Studios did by having origin story movies leading up to the big event. Besides that, the movie was just overall a solid film. It was a movie that almost everyone can enjoy.
It is true that the plot was simple, but it worked. The movie was big enough as it is with so many characters. They did a great job giving each character their own moment and even a story within the overall story for some characters. An example would be Black Widow. We barely knew much about her in Iron Man 2 and a lot of fans didn't like her portrayal by Scar Jo. They did a good job giving her a back story to know more about her. Joss Whedon said the original cut was around the 3 hour mark, but they had to cut some things out. I bet it will be on the blu-ray/DVD release as a director's cut or extended scenes, which might make the movie better than the theatrical release.
For anyone that complains about the story or plot have to know that Whedon and Penn combined the original source and the Ultimates for this movie. The story came from the first release of The Avengers comics in the 1960s, so of course it is simple. The story is pretty accurate to the comics, which is rare now a days. Some people would complain that a movie deviates too much from the comics, but when a movie uses the source material in order to be accurate, people still complain.
I do think that TDKR will beat The Avengers either by a small margin or half more. The Dark Knight turned out to be a superb film, so TDKR is definitely on people's radar. The fact that it is Nolan's last Batman film gives it even more hype.
Aerisky United States. June 04 2012 16:18. Posts 9223
Mm yeah, I agree. The Dark Knight Rises has a lot of things going for it.
Final movie in the trilogy
Massive budget, not sure about it comparatively but it's probably easily over $100 million
Nolan is a well-known and respected director with a reputation for great films
TDK completely blew BB out of water even though the latter performed extremely well already
People might want to see whether we have another Heath Ledger level performance (RIP :/)
Solid cast of well-known actors
Years of hype as well
Trailers look fantastic
Optimal summer blockbuster movie time
"It has always been in my observation of human nature, that a man who has any good reason to believe in himself never flourishes himself before the faces of other people in order that they may believe in him."
zoLo United States. June 04 2012 16:26. Posts 4509
Ah yeah, I saw that! Call it contrived or whatever (I mean alright he's an actor, but really), but I thought Bale was honestly moved, and it was really such a poignant moment. For a while there I could only stare at the screen and recall that tragedy..... I remember reading what had happened and just being unable to believe it. It was moving how in the midst of that supposedly cheerful, ebullient event, we have this sudden moment during which Bale honestly breaks down a bit remembering Heath Ledger...
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