 Pumpkin United States. November 20 2004 13:34. Posts 1141 | Profile |
On November 19 2004 12:37 Casper... wrote:
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how could you not have known that this guy was the future
did you not see his highschool vids?
he dropped 18/game as a child surrounded by grown men as the first option on a bad team; KG as a rookie got like 8 and kobe got 6 and tmac got like 8 too
i said this way back: lebron will be 2x better than kobe
bigger stronger faster smarter
KG was getting 16 first year and 24 second |
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 KOFgokuon United States. November 20 2004 14:48. Posts 8011 | Profile Blog |
On November 20 2004 13:34 Pumpkin wrote:
Show nested quote +On November 19 2004 12:37 Casper... wrote:
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how could you not have known that this guy was the future
did you not see his highschool vids?
he dropped 18/game as a child surrounded by grown men as the first option on a bad team; KG as a rookie got like 8 and kobe got 6 and tmac got like 8 too
i said this way back: lebron will be 2x better than kobe
bigger stronger faster smarter
more like garnet didn't average 24 points until his 9th season his first two garnet averaged 10.2 and 17 points, not 16 and 24` KG was getting 16 first year and 24 second
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 XaI)CyRiC United States. November 20 2004 16:01. Posts 2954 | Profile |
On November 20 2004 13:15 Servolisk wrote:
TMac lead his team to the play offs all by himself. Lebron almost did it his rookie year. Kobe will probably miss the play offs.
Let's not forget the difference between making the playoffs in the West and the playoffs in the East. |
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 Casper... Liberia. November 20 2004 17:28. Posts 4948 | Profile |
oops my bad KG got like 12 his first year and 15 or so the 2nd
15/24 ARE YOU ON DRUGS? |
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 Manifesto7 Osaka. November 20 2004 18:04. Posts 17680 | Profile Blog |
On November 20 2004 16:01 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Show nested quote +On November 20 2004 13:15 Servolisk wrote:
TMac lead his team to the play offs all by himself. Lebron almost did it his rookie year. Kobe will probably miss the play offs.
Let's not forget the difference between making the playoffs in the West and the playoffs in the East.
Or the difference between leading your team to the playoffs, and leading your team to the championship. |
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 tiffany November 21 2004 00:35. Posts 3408 | Profile |
On November 20 2004 18:04 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +On November 20 2004 16:01 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
On November 20 2004 13:15 Servolisk wrote:
TMac lead his team to the play offs all by himself. Lebron almost did it his rookie year. Kobe will probably miss the play offs.
Let's not forget the difference between making the playoffs in the West and the playoffs in the East.
Or the difference between leading your team to the playoffs, and leading your team to the championship.
in the nba, there is a significant separation between championship caliber teams and playoff caliber teams.
for example, san antonio in the west has consistently been not only a playoff contender, but a championship contender for many many seasons. lakers and kings too but this season some have taken them both off the latter list.
in the east it would be indiana and detroit. nets being the ones that have fallen out of serious contention (as of now without kidd at least). |
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 Servolisk United States. November 21 2004 14:54. Posts 4910 | Profile Blog |
On November 20 2004 16:01 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Show nested quote +On November 20 2004 13:15 Servolisk wrote:
TMac lead his team to the play offs all by himself. Lebron almost did it his rookie year. Kobe will probably miss the play offs.
Let's not forget the difference between making the playoffs in the West and the playoffs in the East.
TMac leading his team to the play offs then is more difficult than Kobe doing it now regardless of conference because of the people on his team, I think Kobe has a way better supporting cast. |
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| XaI)CyRiC United States. November 21 2004 23:17. Posts 2954 | Profile |
On November 21 2004 14:54 Servolisk wrote:
TMac leading his team to the play offs then is more difficult than Kobe doing it now regardless of conference because of the people on his team, I think Kobe has a way better supporting cast.
That's entirely up to you, but I'm quite certain you're of the minority opinion in that regard. The Eastern Conference in the past couple of years has been a big mess with almost every team having a playoff shot, and most that made it not winning enough to get the last seed in the West. Look at last season's stats in terms of regular season records for the Western playoff teams and the Eastern, that should settle any doubts.
The fact that the Magic made it to the playoffs says more about how horrible the Eastern conference was than it does about TMac's abilities, although it admittedly was still impressive that he did it practically alone. |
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| tiffany November 22 2004 00:09. Posts 3408 | Profile |
well cyric they did WELL in the playoffs too, they advanced by beating some other eastern conference team i forgot, and managed to go up 3-1 on the pistons before blowing it for some reason. doc rivers got coach of the year as well. so, i'm not sure it's the minority opinion.
although, i agree with your argument that kobe doing it this year is still harder than tmac during his year because not only is the west a much more competitive conference than the east, but the skill gap between all the west teams are minimal, making the playoffs even harder to reach since virtually everybody - even the clippers - has a chance (at this point in the season at least). |
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| KOFgokuon United States. November 22 2004 22:32. Posts 8011 | Profile Blog |
On November 22 2004 00:09 tiffany wrote:
well cyric they did WELL in the playoffs too, they advanced by beating some other eastern conference team i forgot, and managed to go up 3-1 on the pistons before blowing it for some reason. doc rivers got coach of the year as well. so, i'm not sure it's the minority opinion.
although, i agree with your argument that kobe doing it this year is still harder than tmac during his year because not only is the west a much more competitive conference than the east, but the skill gap between all the west teams are minimal, making the playoffs even harder to reach since virtually everybody - even the clippers - has a chance (at this point in the season at least).
the magic never got out of the first round with tmac leading them
they didn't make the playoffs the year doc rivers won coach of the year, which was when they had ron mercer as their leading scorer -_- but they DID go 41-41, which considering their roster was impressive |
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 Kobayashi Portugal. November 22 2004 22:43. Posts 1970 | Profile |
| Actually, I think saying that a player has to prove himself by leading his team to the championship is...hmmm,strange? Imho a players individual achivements should never be confused with what his team as a whole achieves. If you think like that then a guy like Billups should appear a lot higher than he probably diserves. (and saying kobe "lead the lakers" somewhere is a really big overstatement). Btw, i'll never think very highly of a player like kobe...he's a great athlete but not a great basketball player, at least not until he realizes the game is not Kobe vs <insert-team-here> |
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 tree United States. November 23 2004 02:30. Posts 591 | Profile |
| Kobe is overrated and we will see that this year. Without Shaq drawing all the double and triple teams in the post his stats will look more like Allen Iversons. High points, low percentage. Which is how most of the "Stars" of these teams play. AI, Mello, Ect. Lebron is beter then all of them because of his ability to make his whole team better. No rookie since MJ has had an impact on his team like him. He is a step closer to being the next AIR. First grant hill, then kobe, then lebron. They keep getting closer however NO ONE is able to put up points like him AND be one of the best defensive players in the game. |
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 yOOysi Poland. November 23 2004 02:37. Posts 726 | Profile |
On November 19 2004 08:43 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
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omfg this kid will be something special seriously lol.
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 Jim Sweden. November 23 2004 05:33. Posts 1965 | Profile |
| They all suck compared to shaq. That is a guy that makes a difference. |
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| KOFgokuon United States. November 23 2004 05:49. Posts 8011 | Profile Blog |
On November 23 2004 02:30 tree wrote:
Kobe is overrated and we will see that this year. Without Shaq drawing all the double and triple teams in the post his stats will look more like Allen Iversons. High points, low percentage. Which is how most of the "Stars" of these teams play. AI, Mello, Ect. Lebron is beter then all of them because of his ability to make his whole team better. No rookie since MJ has had an impact on his team like him. He is a step closer to being the next AIR. First grant hill, then kobe, then lebron. They keep getting closer however NO ONE is able to put up points like him AND be one of the best defensive players in the game.
this isn't a question of whether or not these players can match up to MJ. In all likelihood no one will ever match up to his greatness (unless they win 9 championships in a row -_-) which is unlikely in today's nba. |
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| Bard Jamaica. November 23 2004 10:50. Posts 898 | Profile |
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| rei United States. November 23 2004 11:01. Posts 1210 | Profile Blog |
| Fuck Tmac, yao is the man of the team. If they go to the playoffs or even the finals it would be because of yao owning not Tmac's effort. just look at Tmac at magics, the team sucked but he is scores the most in the league. and seriously yao is the only guy has the size and strength to go up against shaq, but his stamina still need more work |
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| Kobayashi Portugal. November 23 2004 11:28. Posts 1970 | Profile |
On November 23 2004 11:01 rei wrote:
Fuck Tmac, yao is the man of the team. If they go to the playoffs or even the finals it would be because of yao owning not Tmac's effort. just look at Tmac at magics, the team sucked but he is scores the most in the league. and seriously yao is the only guy has the size and strength to go up against shaq, but his stamina still need more work
I love watching Tmac, he's entertaining, but yeah, the man of the team is Yao (btw, wow, the technique this guy has being that big :o his footwork is impressive).
And about comparing KG and Lebron (a lot of people did that in this thread) I don't care how high Lebron jumps and how well he shoots, KG is just impressive, he's probably the best in the world right now, being able to read the game like he does (and doing perfectly whatever u decide to do)... u can't get to that level on your second year in the nba, not even if you're MJ |
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