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 CirCa Canada. November 23 2004 12:29. Posts 158 | Profile |
On November 19 2004 08:22 Servolisk wrote:This deserves a thread by itself. ![[image loading]](http://epsilon.applepics.com/50/userfiles/419d791f3d0ae.gif) That is probably around a 6 foot vertical. I've been resisting getting on the Lebron band wagon but I can't help it anymore  With this and him leading the league in points in only his second year.
The angle makes it look a lot higher than it actually is |
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 rei United States. November 23 2004 12:45. Posts 1210 | Profile Blog |
how could you guys question jordan's surpemacy?
just look at it this way, last year's final, kobe was being gaurded by this guy wearing a mask(forgot his name) it's basically the method he used was ball deniel, won't even let kobe catch the ball. and that disrupted kobe big time. But lakers still have shaq!! why don't they give him the ball every time since they shut down kobe? It's because they have imcompledent point gaurd that can't make a simple pass down low to shaq, and a kobe that's trying to be like mike and take it all by himself which he failed horriblly.
In all jordan's years in the bulls he is really the only one that they depend on scoring. how many nights have you seen jordan shooting cold as ice for a long period of time like 0 for 7, but he still figure out a way to win. and score over 30 points at the end of the game. kobe can't do that. he tried but can't. he attemps to shoot the ball till he gets hot like iverson, but the problem is that kobe is not the only one that can score in the team like iverson and jordan. the lakers have shaq. so when people critisize kobe for shooting too much what did kobe do? he stop shooting completely on the next game and made the lakers lose just to prove a point. He wants to be like mike so bad that he doesn't care about the team, about shaq, he pissed off everybody, poor marlon was despare for a ring, and all they had to do is give shaq the fucking ball every single fucking time and let shaq beat the living hell out of those pistons, but NOooOOOoo kobe has to be the hero. FUCK KOBE.
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 SweeTLemonS[TPR] United States. November 29 2004 15:19. Posts 9037 | Profile Blog |
It's not 6' vertical. It's closer to like... 45-50 inches. He is about four feet away from the rim, which makes it look higher, in comparison. Jordan jumped about that high in his early years; in his end years he was a little above his wrist.
About the Bulls' championships. They didn't win only because of Jordan; they won because they learned to play with a team, which happened to have the best player ever there. They were a really good team even when he left, they just didn't have the leadership that he provided (that is in 94-95, or whatever years he took off). When they actually won the championships was when Jordan learned to be more of a team player, and stop trying to do everything himself. He started to pass the ball, and didn't try to make everything happen on his own. That's why they won the championships, and that's part of why he was so great. Not only was he a great defender, and shooter, he was a leader, too, and he also had enough intelligence to realize he couldn't do it all on his own, and to pass the ball when it was needed.Last edit: 2004-11-29 15:25:38 |
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| Hydrolisko Vanuatu. November 29 2004 15:43. Posts 1341 | Profile |
| i saw the game, that dunk looked pretty insane.. but the tip of the ball actually only slightly above the square behind the hoop, that angel made it look like he can reach the top of the backboard.. sick dunk nonetheless |
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| bburn United States. November 29 2004 16:08. Posts 1030 | Profile |
On November 23 2004 12:29 CirCa wrote:
Show nested quote +On November 19 2004 08:22 Servolisk wrote:This deserves a thread by itself. That is probably around a 6 foot vertical. I've been resisting getting on the Lebron band wagon but I can't help it anymore With this and him leading the league in points in only his second year.
The angle makes it look a lot higher than it actually is
Correct but that was still a very impressive dunk. |
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 rednob Korea (South). November 30 2004 05:42. Posts 210 | Profile |
| I know this will be offensive but does anyone wonder if he used steroids at some point? He is so strong for a basketball player at 18. |
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| Relifed Dominican Republic. November 30 2004 05:59. Posts 47 | Profile |
On November 30 2004 05:42 rednob wrote:
I know this will be offensive but does anyone wonder if he used steroids at some point? He is so strong for a basketball player at 18.
Some people just develop physically faster. And he's 18? thouyght he was a bit older. |
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 [GiTM]-Ace United States. November 30 2004 06:21. Posts 4004 | Profile |
i think hes 19 now not sure  |
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| Clutch3 United States. November 30 2004 06:47. Posts 1344 | Profile |
| I don't think there can be another Jordan. I think whoever manages to be that good where their team wins every year won't be the "next Jordan", they will be the "first Lebron" or the "first Wade" or whoever. Jordan came along at a perfect time for basketball, and no matter how similar a player is these days, no one will be quite the same, because the game has changed. With zone defenses and other rule changes, it'd be interesting to see what happened if Jordan's 20-year-old clone came into the league now. Odds are, he wouldn't be able to do what the real MJ did in the 80's. |
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| KOFgokuon United States. November 30 2004 06:50. Posts 8011 | Profile Blog |
| if anything i think he might do better. the zone defenses in the nba right now are terrible, and with all the touchy fouls that officials are calling, with the way jordan attacked the hoop back in his younger days he'd be golden |
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 HorsementalitY United States. November 30 2004 06:55. Posts 1158 | Profile |
i hated penny hardaway when ppl said he was the next jordan when he came to the league
i hated grant hill when ppl said he was the next jordan when he came to the league
i hated kobe bryant when people said he was the next jordan when he came to the league
please don't let me hate Lebron James
No one can be Jordan or come even close to it. U can't just compare pts/game, assists, steals or whateva and say well james is getting better nnumbers in his 2nd yr than jordan did his second year and what not. There are soo many factors as to why jordan was a once in a lifetime basketball god. there will never be none like him or even close to him....i still get goosebumps when i watch the jordan dvd's...every single time i watch it. Ever since jordan left i avent been able to watch a full NBA game on tv. during his time, the bulls were the only team i'd sit in front of the tv and watch a full game, commercials and all. and i wasn't even a bulls fan. the guy was something else, i even used to tape bulls playoff games. Nowadays i try to watch an nba game on tv and i get bored, i change the channel and come back to it in like the 4th quater or something if i remember. and todays players are flashier than then, and i like seeing dunks and crossovers and whatnots but its just not the same without micheal... |
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 iloveoo November 30 2004 07:40. Posts 634 | Profile |
| after watching him LIVE for 2 games in the Olympic Games in Athens this summer i can safely say he is no way near Kobe, and will never ever be the next Jordan |
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| iloveoo November 30 2004 07:41. Posts 634 | Profile |
and karmelo anthony (who ppl in the us rate so highly) is a complete joke
only 'pro' in that team was Duncan..... but he was still a long way from his usual self |
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| Relifed Dominican Republic. November 30 2004 07:45. Posts 47 | Profile |
| Wow people are so nitpicky, imo Leron James and Anthony are both good players.. it's still along way to go for them so lets not put limits on what they can do, you might be quite surprised ;o |
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 white_box921 United Kingdom. November 30 2004 09:45. Posts 830 | Profile |
| ok....I am not saying that Leborn James is not a good player, but one's greatness should not only depend on how high he can jump. |
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| zero89 United States. November 30 2004 10:34. Posts 295 | Profile |
wont be the next micheal jordan still
micheal jordan is unique
best player of nba in history |
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| SweeTLemonS[TPR] United States. November 30 2004 10:54. Posts 9037 | Profile Blog |
On November 30 2004 06:55 HorsementalitY wrote:
i hated penny hardaway when ppl said he was the next jordan when he came to the league
i hated grant hill when ppl said he was the next jordan when he came to the league
i hated kobe bryant when people said he was the next jordan when he came to the league
please don't let me hate Lebron James
No one can be Jordan or come even close to it. U can't just compare pts/game, assists, steals or whateva and say well james is getting better nnumbers in his 2nd yr than jordan did his second year and what not. There are soo many factors as to why jordan was a once in a lifetime basketball god. there will never be none like him or even close to him....i still get goosebumps when i watch the jordan dvd's...every single time i watch it. Ever since jordan left i avent been able to watch a full NBA game on tv. during his time, the bulls were the only team i'd sit in front of the tv and watch a full game, commercials and all. and i wasn't even a bulls fan. the guy was something else, i even used to tape bulls playoff games. Nowadays i try to watch an nba game on tv and i get bored, i change the channel and come back to it in like the 4th quater or something if i remember. and todays players are flashier than then, and i like seeing dunks and crossovers and whatnots but its just not the same without micheal...
For once I agree with you. Except the not hating James, part. But Jordan was so awesome, it's impossible for anyone to be as good as he was. I said I'd never watch a full basketball game for the rest of my life, after Jordan left the Bulls, and I haven't. I only wish I could have seen him play live, considering I don't live THAT far from where he played with the Bulls. |
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 tiffany November 30 2004 11:56. Posts 3408 | Profile |
On November 23 2004 12:45 rei wrote:
how could you guys question jordan's surpemacy?
just look at it this way, last year's final, kobe was being gaurded by this guy wearing a mask(forgot his name) it's basically the method he used was ball deniel, won't even let kobe catch the ball. and that disrupted kobe big time. But lakers still have shaq!! why don't they give him the ball every time since they shut down kobe? It's because they have imcompledent point gaurd that can't make a simple pass down low to shaq, and a kobe that's trying to be like mike and take it all by himself which he failed horriblly.
sorry to be nitpicky, but rip hamilton did not guard kobe, tayshaun prince did. |
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 CTStalker Canada. November 30 2004 13:27. Posts 5933 | Profile Blog |
haha james is in his second year in the nba. just wait a little bit.
take a look at jordan's first couple of seasons. the bulls weren't so hot back then.
but a couple of years later... |
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 Servolisk United States. November 30 2004 13:57. Posts 4910 | Profile Blog |
I don't think Jordan was the best player ever, but the best marketed. One of the best to be sure.
I don't believe in calling someone the next Jordan, but I think Kobe is very similar.
He gets special allowances for traveling and contact, like Jordan.
He gets bogus calls on him to bail him out.
Kobe now owns the Lakers like Jordan did the Bulls, and has the freedom to do whatever he wants. The whole team will work to set him up and run everything through him. He will take millions of shots a night and end up with good numbers. To Kobe's credit, he is making a serious effort to improve his teammates and is letting them have the ball to improve. Kobe probably won't average 30 pts a game like Mike, but he won't hog the ball as much.
Lebron is similar for the same reasons, but he is still just in his 2nd year so who knows if he is going to be the next MJ. He might be the next Glenn Robinson, who had a better rookie season than Lebron and MJ. |
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