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  Shiv   France. November 29 2004 14:47. Posts 447Profile 

On November 29 2004 14:07 superpenguin wrote:
he will see a blank line with "your-aka: " but the message "anti-hack check" is displayed on your computer only. i think found a way to remove it for the next version but it will cause an other drawback : it will clean all the messages on the screen, so it's very noticeable he is talking at the same time. let me know if you like realy the empty line better, if not i will code the screen clearing method, and if i'm in good mood i will put an option to choose which one you want.


Well, that's not a problem at all. Don't bother with it. Just wanted to know.


On November 29 2004 14:09 ahk-gosu wrote:

plz excuse my ignorance.
why is an unshifted hotkey?
thx

Well, with the french keyboards - called "azerty" as opposed to "qwerty", you have to have your caps button locked if you want to recall your keys by just pressing them. Otherwise, you have to do alt+# whenever you want to recall a single key. A real burden when you're using the shift button (it 'undo' the caps with old keyboards, and you can always missclick), and a pain the rest of a time 'cause that's just one more key to hit every time.
Last edit: 2004-11-29 14:49:23
whats the rumpling?
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  sCV   Jamaica. November 29 2004 14:48. Posts 246Profile 
is this editing hotkeys too?
i mean like keycraft?

tnx ^^
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  JazZ[AutO]   United States. November 29 2004 14:54. Posts 555Profile 
when you double click the launcher it launches bw too, can you launch it without this so that you can run like neo-gamei launcher at the same time which also loads bw upon connecting?
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  superpenguin   France. November 29 2004 15:10. Posts 199Profile 

On November 29 2004 14:54 JazZ[AutO] wrote:
when you double click the launcher it launches bw too, can you launch it without this so that you can run like neo-gamei launcher at the same time which also loads bw upon connecting?


Press ctrl + alt + del and check the process list, if theres still starcraft.exe after you runned it from neogamei, then penguinplug should at least "load", the launcher will detect starcraft.exe and attach to it. it doesnt mean it will work because neogamei might do tones of things with the memory to avoid 3rd party programs. The best is to try yourself.
There is no noob map, only noob players
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  RaiZ   France. November 29 2004 15:32. Posts 1648Profile Blog 

On November 29 2004 14:47 Shiv wrote:
Well, with the french keyboards - called "azerty" as opposed to "qwerty", you have to have your caps button locked if you want to recall your keys by just pressing them. Otherwise, you have to do alt+# whenever you want to recall a single key. A real burden when you're using the shift button (it 'undo' the caps with old keyboards, and you can always missclick), and a pain the rest of a time 'cause that's just one more key to hit every time.


Well there's not a lot of ppl using the french keyboard or at least that's what i saw in lan : Almost all used the qwerty keyboard or logitech which can't be unlocked just by pressing the shift buton.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
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  JaySmurff   United States. November 29 2004 19:46. Posts 740Profile 
program looks cool, downloading now.
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/Cygnus%5Bx.1%5D.html
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  cLichE   Korea (South). November 29 2004 21:46. Posts 259Profile 
Sounds interesting.
it hing~
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  1024MB   United States. November 29 2004 21:51. Posts 1455Profile 
Oh great, now not only can the little whiners who think they are the best call names and hack, they can also make others' look like they've said what they didn't.

Don't get me wrong. This is a great work. I respect you and think it's a nifty tool, but I just think this'll be abused more than anything.

Sort of like when people act like idiots on B.net. No, I'm not upset with B.net, just the people.
Last edit: 2004-11-29 21:52:56
You learn from losing.
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  SoMuchBetter   Australia. November 29 2004 22:06. Posts 7738Profile Blog 
I have a suggestion;

would it be possible to add the text messages to the replay so that you dont need to use your program to view them, but only to record them?

I know its possible to extract a map from the replay, but what if you made a program that added the text messages in trigger form to the map part of the replay, so that anyone watching the replay would see them?
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  baal   November 29 2004 22:07. Posts 10329Profile 
this rocks, thanks for your hard work
:3 .... yes im trendy.
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  CTStalker   Canada. November 30 2004 13:22. Posts 5933Profile Blog 
my friends and i have come across some amusing reactions while using this program in some pub bgh games.

hacker: "WTF!!! You guys are fucking hackers!!"
us: roflmao

we didn't point out the irony to the victims
You can have the men who make the laws -- give me the music makers
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  Verbloten   Australia. November 30 2004 14:16. Posts 750Profile 
this is an interesting topic though CTStalker... I introduced this to some mates last night - i wasn't able to play with them - but i was in the channel when they got back from a game. The reaction they had from someone in the game was "WTF My units are attacking themselves". Two of the 3 (playing 3v3 hunters) got the old can't save replay and BW crashed. One of the three was OK - but unfortunately he didn't save the replay (oh that's prolly why he was ok... duh). Um but that third guy was very dubious about the pengi app. He was saying - how do we know that it is not hacking other players?! How DO WE KNOW that this isn't just another hack that a hacker has cleverly distributed to all of us non-hackers as a little bit of a joke?!

So we play against innocent ppl and they start killing themselves?? HOW DO WE KNOW ppl? Anyway - i'm going to keep using it for a while and see what happens - i love it!!
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  nullmind   Korea (South). November 30 2004 15:16. Posts 1143Profile 
The next JCA T.T
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  superpenguin   France. November 30 2004 16:27. Posts 199Profile 

So we play against innocent ppl and they start killing themselves?? HOW DO WE KNOW ppl?


No, First, it's impossible to change the ally status of a player that is not you, it would drop you from the game. I explained the behavior of my program in the readme, and i suggest you to read it if you didnt (the one in the zip file is older, so check the online one about this).

It works because their own maphack contain a backdoor code to unally themself when they recieve a particular message. So theres 0% of chance that it could affect an innocent.

One of my friend gave an interesting comment : in some games you say "gg". now just imagine that instead of 9 ascii unprintable characters ; if the trigger of the backdoor was the message "gg". would it mean you are using an evil opponent-unally hack to kill your enemy everytime you say "gg" in a game ?

It's really all what my anti-hack is doing, sending a 9 character message with ac off and this message doesnt affect starcraft. But it inform the enemy maphack that if their owners maphack, it's because they have no life, and as they are not dead yet they should commit self-unallying-suicide to fix that
There is no noob map, only noob players
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  evanthebouncy   China. November 30 2004 16:39. Posts 415Profile 
didnt work for windows me?
BOINK BOINK! Recursively defined
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  Moggle   Canada. November 30 2004 17:13. Posts 327Profile Blog 
I played a 2v2 with my friend earlier. We were allied and we went to attack one of the enemies. He started attacking himself and left before we began our attack. Are you positive that it CANNOT EVER affect innocent, non-hacking players? I'm nearly 99% sure that my friend was not hacking because he is one of my closer and more trusted friends IRL.
Moggle @ USWest. I hate Spore Colonies!
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  dt   Germany. November 30 2004 17:48. Posts 126Profile 
Its 100% safe. Self-unally is just not possible without a hack.
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  superpenguin   France. November 30 2004 17:55. Posts 199Profile 

On November 30 2004 17:13 Enorasis wrote:
I played a 2v2 with my friend earlier. We were allied and we went to attack one of the enemies. He started attacking himself and left before we began our attack. Are you positive that it CANNOT EVER affect innocent, non-hacking players? I'm nearly 99% sure that my friend was not hacking because he is one of my closer and more trusted friends IRL.

I'm 100% sure he has the hack installed and loaded in memory in the game where he unallyed himself. The post above is an accurate description of how the system works. It absolutely cannont affect someone unless he has a backdoor that is trigered by this exact message and that is contained only in this maphack.

It doesnt mean that he effectively activated the show map function of his hack in the game you have played : for example, he could have played a game just before yours vs someone he hate and play it with hack, and then disable it but without quiting SC. He still have the maphack loaded and the maphack is programmed to listen to message even if the map is not displayed.

I suggest you to use the other tools avaible if you have some personnal doubts but it wont change the fact that there is no way to unally someone remotely except if he has this backdoor in this maphack. Did you already used lasgo BWAC in more than 5 replays of him ?
There is no noob map, only noob players
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  FirstProbe   November 30 2004 17:59. Posts 808Profile 
Nice!
Cool program!
Just outta curiousity... will it show what people are typing behind allied chat (like the other team)?
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  Verbloten   Australia. November 30 2004 18:05. Posts 750Profile 
holy crap enorasis - you mean you were playing 2v2 AGAINST a friend and he started killing himself? This is not good! assuming we believe superpenguin - then your friend must hack no? Penguin man your thoughts?

Thanks for your explanation too Penguin man - that's great.
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