 baal December 02 2004 10:45. Posts 10329 | Profile |
| Do the "checking hack" msg HAS to be there?... if not, that way it could be checked randomly and more than once. |
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 lingwu Japan. December 02 2004 10:52. Posts 321 | Profile |
| in the readme file it says only detect 1 type of maphack...does that mean theres other maphack that cannot be detected by this penguinlauncher? |
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 superpenguin France. December 02 2004 11:11. Posts 199 | Profile |
a fact that I dont like either but simply tolerate and accept like a mature adult.
If you think that you are indirectly responsible for something that is hurtfull and you are almighty on the decision to stop it, like a mature adult you should use your power in a positive way. I think it would be great if you was cleaning your forum a little better, by defining rules that make the difference between a hack and a cheat program, and only accept the fair side. I'm not pretending to give you orders about how to run your forum, but i'm just showing a logic that you can follow if you want.
A cheat is a program that give you an unfair advantage over a legitly playing opponent, do we agree on that ? You can still run a forum that help people to talk and program hacks that are not cheats.
The actual cheater is the person who uses the hack, didnt you know that?
You are making easy to access a lot of things that would be harder to get, and many of them affect negativly the SC communauty. If i go in some school and distribute guns for the 10 years old boys during the break, can i just say "hey but i didnt killed them myself, they did it". And who will go to jail the longest time : the one who distribute 10kg of hard drugs every year or the one who use 100g during this time ?
For the other question, i agree that you answered correctly but about what i just said, i think that either you are not feeling strong enough to make things change, either you are not realy convinced enough of what you are saying.
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| dt Germany. December 02 2004 11:27. Posts 126 | Profile |
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 IntoTheWow Argentina. December 02 2004 11:37. Posts 25193 | Profile Blog |
Of course I'm assuming we're mature adults here that can handle a maphack in a mature way. Do you care if any 10 year olds cheat in their 3vs3 fastest possible games? I dont. Serious and mature players dont hack, even if black sheep wall worked online. Or if they do, it's the player who has to take complete responsibility for his action. I'm not taking that blame.
I cannot wait for someone to quote you and bash you.
You and 'your knowledge' ruin the community, along with the people who use the hacks.
I mean, if you are really into reverse engineering. Go modify a code or whatever but dont put it into a Starcraft website with a link that says 'ROFL GUYS HERES MY LAST BADASS MAPHACK'.
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 anarchyplz December 02 2004 11:41. Posts 100 | Profile |
On December 02 2004 10:38 dt wrote:
You dont need a patent to have a copyright. And I'm talking about morals here. I have spent much time writing that code. If he does copy&paste it, thats stealing. Quite simple.
You think thats ok or what? Somebody writes a program, and you just copy the code and put your name on it?
No, you don't need a patent to have a copyright. You said that he would violate copyright which he wouldn't. And no, I don't think it would be ok to use someone elses code without his or her consent. |
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| ggt France. December 02 2004 11:42. Posts 55 | Profile |
you didnt understand me.
I dont want your program to prevent a no cd.
I use a no cd because i lost my brood cd and i would like to know if i can use ur program with a no cd...
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| superpenguin France. December 02 2004 11:55. Posts 199 | Profile |
Almighty?? Try to find a maphack with google, you will find dozens of other sites before mine.
i will call it the logic : "Other peoples host bad things so i can do the same".
Of course I'm assuming we're mature adults here that can handle a maphack in a mature way. Do you care if any 10 year olds cheat in their 3vs3 fastest possible games?
Humm, yes. I dont see why you should make 2 groups of peoles : those who are allowed to hack and those who arent. It's just a way to escape again... Well, i wont continue this discussion because whatever i say it will allways end up with "but it's not my fault, cheating is bad but i'm good and a lot of people are implied anyway"... I'm quite used with hearing the cheat users making up excuses, and in some way i'm disapointed to hear exactly the same thing from the cheat distributor.
What i suggested was simple : you have a website, forbid cheats but allow other kind of hacks.
lingwu: exactly, it just protect against 1 mh and detect a 2nd under some circonstancies, but it do that for all the player in a game even if they dont have penguinplug.
ggt: i understoood but to say it clearly : i dont know and i wont neither help nor prevent you to use it with a no cd.
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| locutus_of_borg December 02 2004 12:02. Posts 32 | Profile |
@ggt: duh.. why dont u just try it .. geez... its not like your computer is going to blow up...
@dt: how about you reverse engineer all those hack programs you have access to and remap all of the hacker's hotkeys to random keys and change his mouse buttons as well? you'd do greater service to the community and satisfy your own interests as well. maybe if enough people were working on these new breed of anti-hacks, we might actually see hacker population actually start decreasing... |
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| dt Germany. December 02 2004 12:09. Posts 126 | Profile |
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 Shiv France. December 02 2004 12:24. Posts 447 | Profile |
On December 02 2004 12:09 dt wrote:
Show nested quote +On December 02 2004 11:55 superpenguin wrote:
Almighty?? Try to find a maphack with google, you will find dozens of other sites before mine.
i will call it the logic : "Other peoples host bad things so i can do the same".
You're very good in reducing complex problems to simple logic. Or should we say, you live in a dream world? Since your post contained no further arguments, I guess I dont need any more either. Congratulations on wasting my time, by the way.
You're like a drug dealer. You're not helping anyone 'having fun', even if you think you do.
Evil !
Thanx Penguin for your efforts.
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| iCmB France. December 03 2004 01:48. Posts 521 | Profile |
Honestly just the text feature in replays (as WC3 rep) is awesome and the hotkeys unshift would help some (anyways i already resolved the problem by using a swiss keyboard).
And the anti-hack, if it 100% safe and if it occurs only with hackers, it is great as well and will bring some fresh air on SC community.
I have nothin more to add ! Good Job ! Jca... and now you ! what the french programmer community brought to Brood makes me proud !
But in a larger view, with lasgo and all, we have some awesome guys who did a lot for keeping this game alive. Greetings to all.
i wish to be as talented T_T |
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| Verbloten Australia. December 03 2004 02:22. Posts 750 | Profile |
| HERE HERE iCmB.. i second all that!! Well said. |
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| baal December 03 2004 02:30. Posts 10329 | Profile |
I dont see why DT isnt banned from this site...
this site is one of the most important BW communities, and you pollute BW, you can spit every pathetic argument you want, and hide between according to you "complex" problem when its so fucking simple...
Ask a drugdealer and he will say, he only sells drugs, its not like he is making ppl buy them, you are pathetic, i hope Eri or other admins sees this and bans your ass from here. |
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| iCmB France. December 03 2004 02:46. Posts 521 | Profile |
Oh by the way Baal, your replay was awesome ! I never laugh that much in front of my computer ! My gf thought i lost my mind  Cheers for the rep  |
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| dt Germany. December 03 2004 03:57. Posts 126 | Profile |
Yes its quite simple. I made a helpful program that fixes replay bugs and provided it to the community. Now that deserves a ban...
Why cant we just be friends? Its christmas soon
Well, if you have to make such a fuss about it, I'll edit my posts. I dont want my account banned :/Last edit: 2004-12-03 05:05:24 |
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| superpenguin France. December 03 2004 05:05. Posts 199 | Profile | |
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 L!MP Australia. December 03 2004 05:07. Posts 2066 | Profile |
OMG at first i thought this program had some errors in it because it was causing people to unally themselves!!! some guy threatened to report me to blizzard for using a hack (lol!) and some guy who wanted to join my clan.. he also unallied himself...
then i read the readme and im so happy because those damn hackers are not going to waste anymore of my time! thanks alot mate! great prog!! |
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| Gigglepants France. December 03 2004 05:08. Posts 352 | Profile | |
| | A poor American lives better than a Middle Class European in London or Paris ~IronMentality |
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Hwoarang Korea (South). December 03 2004 04:37. Posts 235
