| Danglars United States. June 25 2011 20:53. Posts 1922 | Profile Blog # |
393. A higher APM will come naturally if you improve your macro and thus your ability to remember to do alot of simultaneous actions. Spamming doesn't help.
This is true in one part and false in another. I started out as a 50-70 APM player in platinum league. When I started getting better, knowing what had to be done ASAP and the stuff to be ready to do right after "1 1"-ing back to my army, my APM increased to 100. Yes your APM will increase naturally as you improve at playing the game. However, I still sucked at multitasking even as my hotkey control improved.
Went to korean PC bang, hung out and asked gamers there better than me for tips and observed their games. A couple (Back than top 200 NA) explained to me more reasons to APM spam in the beginning of the game.
1. Increases your readiness / warms up your fingers to react instantly to important stuff. See bunker, your fingers are already warmed up to pull needed probes to dps SCV and quickly dbltap 5 z -> 4 c click -> chronoboost that zealot out.
2. Mental checklist as you press the numbers. Just kind of engages when I spam downtime
i) Is my army ready to fight? (Move zealots in front, sentries behind to be in range to FF, units good concave)
ii) Am I harassing him?
iii) Am I building army? Do I have enough army structures? Do I have enough supply for em/pylons?
iv) Am I building probes
I'm not saying everybody out there has to connect APM spam with the mental checklist. I radically improved from hearing that advice and doing it.
3. You get in the midgame/lategame rhythm early. You're ready for attacking with army as you warp in, order your probe to build another proxy pylon, queue another probe, and chronoboost the gates and robo. Your fingers have been moving at that speed since the start of the game and there isn't any panicked time where you need to be faster for the first engagement but are lagging (dragging screen around, nexus & gateways are idle etc)
I don't seek to convince everyone out there that APM spam will be the best way to improve at their level. There's other things in the game for that. I say only that I was glad someone gave me that tip when I was struggling 3 months after game launch in diamond league. Overcoming that hurdle let me climb much much higher. So I submit #504: "Spamming actions in the early game (such as box select and numbered hotkeys) can warm up your fingers for the midgame and prepare you for the many actions needed to be done at once when the game heats up" Rephrase as necessary, but players do need to know the other side of the APM argument. |
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| iMMortaL.797 United States. June 25 2011 21:24. Posts 90 | Profile # |
| #505: Watching GSLs or GSTLs can actually help you by giving you new strategies. **coughcough MKP** |
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| iMMortaL.797 United States. June 25 2011 21:28. Posts 90 | Profile # |
| #506: (PvZ) When going for a Blink Stalker build, get 3/0 before you even start armor. This is more effective because the purpose of this build is for mobility, not tanking. Stalkers can't tank for shit anyways. |
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| Geordie United Kingdom. June 26 2011 05:08. Posts 652 | Profile Blog # |
| #507 You can use the shift key to queue up seiging / unseiging tanks so you can slow push while being able to use your APM for other things. |
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| Kaitlin United States. June 26 2011 05:14. Posts 2195 | Profile # |
(TvZ) When your Zerg opponent is likely to be maxed, and working toward that 300 army push, stored larvae are prime targets. Nuked hatcheries one-shot all larva at that location. A nuke for each base before engaging virtually eliminates the Zerg ability to replenish units, in addition to the APM distraction of pulling drones, and the lost mining time.
edit: Raven Seeker Missiles also take out larvae, but people rarely tech to this.Last edit: 2011-06-26 05:15:37 |
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| Oboeman Canada. June 26 2011 05:19. Posts 3407 | Profile # |
On June 26 2011 05:14 Kaitlin wrote:
(TvZ) When your Zerg opponent is likely to be maxed, and working toward that 300 army push, stored larvae are prime targets. Nuked hatcheries one-shot all larva at that location. A nuke for each base before engaging virtually eliminates the Zerg ability to replenish units, in addition to the APM distraction of pulling drones, and the lost mining time.
edit: Raven Seeker Missiles also take out larvae, but people rarely tech to this.
or snipe. |
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| Kaitlin United States. June 26 2011 06:20. Posts 2195 | Profile # |
| Snipe takes out 1 larva. Others take them all with one shot. |
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| caradoc Canada. June 26 2011 08:30. Posts 2892 | Profile Blog # |
| #508, the less workers a player has saturating a particular base, the more effective worker kills on that base will be, since increasing worker saturation on minerals has diminishing returns. Killing 2 workers on a base with 24 mining workers is about the same as killing one worker on a base with 15. |
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| OutlaW- Czech Republic. June 26 2011 08:31. Posts 3228 | Profile Blog # |
On June 26 2011 08:30 caradoc wrote:
#508, the less workers a player has saturating a particular base, the more effective worker kills on that base will be, since increasing worker saturation on minerals has diminishing returns. Killing 2 workers on a base with 24 mining workers is about the same as killing one worker on a base with 15.
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| Kaitlin United States. June 26 2011 12:22. Posts 2195 | Profile # |
(ZvP) This is very situational and opportunistic, but in addition to Colossus, you can now Neural Parasite an Archon to break force fields.
Of course, if there is a bunch of HTs in a pack, NP one of them and storm at their feet. That's probably obvious though. |
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| Spacefrog June 27 2011 00:41. Posts 1 | Profile # |
(XvZ)
You can 'dead block' a zerg scouting drone doing the gaz trick, by building a batiment on the same location the zerg came from to build the extractor. (sorry awfull english, I hope you will understand it with a picture)
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The drone can't move after cancelling his extractor, he can't build another extractor neither. |
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| NeWeNiyaLord Norway. June 27 2011 00:53. Posts 2464 | Profile Blog # |
| When going for a fast expansion build 14 hatch as Zerg, You can rally the 14th drone to expansion from the egg, And you will have exactly 300 mins when you get there. |
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| Arn Sweden. June 27 2011 06:29. Posts 118 | Profile # |
Hi all, just checking in to say I have not forgotten this topic, although I have lately been very busy IRL. However, I will try to update this as soon as I can, there's almost ten new pages, very nice! With everyone's help we can probably reach 1000!
Oh, and making this in poster format would be a great idea. I'm considering making a computer application or something. If someone needs the original formatting of the first post for making an app or something, PM me. |
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| RockshellGW June 27 2011 17:09. Posts 93 | Profile # | |
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| iokke United States. June 27 2011 17:17. Posts 692 | Profile Blog # |
Here's one more.
In case of a complete walloff, u can force a probe to go through the wall if you build a pylon in a corner that "jams" it to the other side of the wall. (basically you got to find a spot where, once you build the pylon, probe will have no room left and will be forced to the other side of the buildings... hard to explain without pictures) Also, you can cancel the pylon afterwards if you dont need it there
Last time i used it was when I blocked off zergs ramp with 3 pylons to punish early hatch (cannons), than i build a 4th pylon to jam my probe, which was initially outside of Z's base, into Zergs base to scout. |
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 BatesC United States. June 27 2011 20:48. Posts 173 | Profile # |
This list has helped me immensely as a newer Starcraft 2 player, I know I cannot contribute much of anything but you have my support.
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| RockshellGW June 27 2011 21:21. Posts 93 | Profile # |
On June 27 2011 00:41 Spacefrog wrote:(XvZ) You can 'dead block' a zerg scouting drone doing the gaz trick, by building a batiment on the same location the zerg came from to build the extractor. (sorry awfull english, I hope you will understand it with a picture) The drone can't move after cancelling his extractor, he can't build another extractor neither.
This is actually a really nice find! Unfortunately it doesn't seem to work with Protoss structures. This will also probably be patched its pretty obviously not intentional.
EDIT: This only works if the drone makes the extractor from the east or west, it doesn't seem to work if the drone enters from north or south. Very situational and not very consistent. Last edit: 2011-06-27 23:16:16 |
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| ToastieNL Netherlands. June 27 2011 21:47. Posts 845 | Profile Blog # |
# 504
Carriers can be Chronoboosted, increasing the production of Interceptors. |
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| Tid- France. June 27 2011 23:04. Posts 26 | Profile # |
#509?
2v2 tip 1
In 2v2, you can make a gas (with a drone or a probe) for your ally so he doesn't have to pay for it and to waste time building it for a T. He will be able to mine it if you give him micro control. This allows him to get faster better units (stalker/helion).
#510 ?
Doing tip 1 in Z allows you to make the "gas trick" so you can build an extra drone and the gas your are building is 50 minerals cheaper than a T/P gas.
#511?
2v2 tip 2
When you do 505 trick, don't forget your ally will be able to control your units. In micro battles, take that in consideration. After the gas is depleted, you may want to remove this.Last edit: 2011-06-27 23:19:16 |
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| RockshellGW June 27 2011 23:14. Posts 93 | Profile # |
On June 27 2011 21:47 ToastieNL wrote:
# 504
Carriers can be Chronoboosted, increasing the production of Interceptors.
Actually no, this myth has been busted several times already. |
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