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| Nopileus Germany. April 21 2011 05:47. Posts 27 | Profile # |
Zowie seems to have developed a RTS mouse is cooperation with StarTale
Link and Pictures here --> Zowie Mico
Looks like a mix between Logitech Mini Optical and MX300/G1
Seems like a great shape.
Pictures from a german shop:
Techdata:
Specifications:
Dots Per Inch: 400/800/1600
Max. Acceleration: up to 30G
Max. Speed: up to 50 inches/second
USB report rate: 500Hz
Length of cable: 1.8m / 5.8 ft
Weight: 68g (ex. cable)
Connector: USB
Buttons: 3
Link and Pictures here --> Zowie MicoLast edit: 2011-04-24 05:27:42 |
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| Virid United States. April 21 2011 09:02. Posts 129 | Profile # |
Interesting shape and a great price too. I might consider it depending on reviews.
The ZOWIE MiCO will be available to end-users on the 1st of June 2011.
MSRP:
DKK 299
EUR 34.90
USD 34.90
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 BobGayman April 21 2011 09:19. Posts 89 | Profile # |
On April 21 2011 09:02 Virid wrote:Interesting shape and a great price too. I might consider it depending on reviews.
Show nested quote +The ZOWIE MiCO will be available to end-users on the 1st of June 2011.
MSRP:
DKK 299
EUR 34.90
USD 34.90
Acceptable price if you're a dollar man, Europeans are screwed as always. |
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| snigor Norway. April 21 2011 09:46. Posts 99 | Profile # |
| Looks pretty nice, if you're after a small mouse like that. I have a Zowie EC1, and the sensor/build quality is really good. |
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| Matuka United Kingdom. April 21 2011 09:53. Posts 73 | Profile # |
Not exactly a fan of the shape (I love ambidextrous mice though, I use a WMO 1.1a), reminds me too much of the Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse. I guess it's ideal for the claw/finger gamer but not for palm players.  |
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| Ragnarawk Canada. April 21 2011 12:20. Posts 32 | Profile # |
| definitely looking at picking up one of these mice. I currently use a razer deathadder and the shape of it doesn't exactly mesh with my claw grip. Good on zowie for making a mouse designed for rts |
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| Enervate United States. April 21 2011 12:40. Posts 1766 | Profile # |
| DPI seems low... Shape looks good though. |
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| a176 Canada. April 21 2011 12:55. Posts 5683 | Profile Blog # |
| I think someone will need to provide some screencaps of the ST players actually using these. |
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| Black Gun Germany. April 21 2011 12:56. Posts 3905 | Profile Blog # |
| only 3 buttons, not very appealing optically, only few dpi steps, a rather low max dpi - imho 35€ are not justified for this. until it proves to work flawlessly (reliable sensor, no skipping, no prediction etc.), which is not very likely, i dont really see the advantage of this mouse over similar mice from several years ago. |
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| gogogadgetflow United States. April 21 2011 12:59. Posts 2583 | Profile # |
In order to change the DPI, you just hold down mouse1 and mouse2 simultaneously while scrolling the wheel. This allows you to change the DPI rather quickly and best of all; there’s no excess buttons on the mouse.
As a button minimalist myself, I gotta say that is so cool!
Edit: why are people saying 1600 dpi is insufficient?Last edit: 2011-04-21 13:00:56 |
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| Shew United States. April 21 2011 13:00. Posts 429 | Profile Blog # |
| looks awesome, digging it. I'm curious what it's dimensions are |
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| Obscura.304 April 21 2011 13:32. Posts 150 | Profile Blog # |
On April 21 2011 12:59 gogogadgetflow wrote:
Show nested quote +In order to change the DPI, you just hold down mouse1 and mouse2 simultaneously while scrolling the wheel. This allows you to change the DPI rather quickly and best of all; there’s no excess buttons on the mouse.
As a button minimalist myself, I gotta say that is so cool! Edit: why are people saying 1600 dpi is insufficient?
I've gotten used to 1800 on my Abyssus, and can't imagine trying to adjust to a slower mouse.
Interesting that so many smaller mice have come out recently. There's the obvious Razer Marauder, but also the Abyssus, the Kova +, the CM Sentinel, and now this. It's a great time to be a fingertip gripper!Last edit: 2011-04-21 13:33:22 |
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| pt United States. April 21 2011 13:34. Posts 783 | Profile # |
Oh my god! The price. I think I want to try this 
I'm not sure of those small mouse feet would last.Last edit: 2011-04-21 13:35:47 |
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| LanTAs United States. April 21 2011 13:35. Posts 1077 | Profile Blog # |
TIME TO BUY! its a LOGITECH MINI OPTICAL! I just realized that ^.^
i think i still got a bit more bucks for that... |
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 zere Germany. April 21 2011 16:08. Posts 1181 | Profile Blog # |
On April 21 2011 13:00 Shew wrote:
looks awesome, digging it. I'm curious what it's dimensions are
65mm wide, 40mm high, 120mm long
They actually went over to the Startale house and measured the player's hands and filmed their movements. I don't know, but what's been uniquely measured for the God of War must be good for everyone, so I'm getting one, right along a Celeritas from Caseking  |
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| FrozenSolid Finland. April 21 2011 16:33. Posts 134 | Profile # |
The competition for this mouse includes the Razer Orochi/Abyssus, Roccat Pyra and Steelseries Kinzu, and out-of-production mice like the LMO and Razer Salmosa Asian edition. It makes sense to compare it to those mice, then.
The Mico is a very lightweight gaming mouse and the listed 68g weight is easily comparable to the competition. (Pyra is around 90g, Kinzu is 77g, Orochi is 95g, Abyssus is 67g)
Overall, it looks great for claw grip in particular, with the top of the mouse being coated and the sides being bare. Too bad the exact dimensions aren't listed. I suspect people with bigger hands may have trouble using the Mico with a claw grip, but fingertip grip is probably comfortable regardless of hand size. The shape of the mouse is similar to the LMO, which has been heralded as the best Brood War mouse of all time. This is likely one of the Mico's greatest strengths.
On April 21 2011 16:08 zere wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 21 2011 13:00 Shew wrote:
looks awesome, digging it. I'm curious what it's dimensions are
65mm wide, 40mm high, 120mm long They actually went over to the Startale house and measured the player's hands and filmed their movements. I don't know, but what's been uniquely measured for the God of War must be good for everyone, so I'm getting one, right along a Celeritas from Caseking
EDIT: If these dimensions are correct, then the Mico is actually a little bit bigger than the competition in dimension. This would mean that it should be comfortable for all hand types when using a claw grip. People with small hands may find fingertip grip uncomfortable, but it is still pretty unlikely. The Mico may not be the smallest mouse out there, but it is certainly among the smaller end of the spectrum.
Apparently StarTale players use 400 or 800 dpi when playing instead of the max 1600. If that seems low, you can always turn up the sensitivity settings in SC2, so it shouldn't be that big of a problem. The Optical lens is apparently optimized for lift-off distance, so the mouse will likely excel at low DPI settings. At 400 DPI, I think the mouse will actually outperform the competition for many types of games. Whether or not the mouse has acceleration issues remains to be seen, but it certainly seems unlikely with the emphasis Zowie put on the sensor. In comparison, the Kinzu and Salmosa seem to suffer from mouse acceleration, while the Pyra, Orochi and Abyssus do not have hardware based acceleration built in. That being said, the Abyssus does suffer from random erratic sensor movements, but this is very rare.
The polling rate for the Mico is 500Hz, which is more than sufficient, but less than the 1000Hz its competitors promise. This is unlikely to have any real-world performance issues, but it is something to consider. Some people are really picky about the polling rate of their mouse, and the Mico falls a little short here. The Pyra, Kinzu, Abyssus, Salmosa and Orochi all feature 1000Hz polling rate, and some offer the possibility of toggling between 125, 500 and 1000 Hz.
What I don't like is the lack of proper driver software. I like to set up different profiles and tweak the settings around, so I'm a bit disappointed. I assume DPI is controlled by a mechanical switch on the mouse itself, not unlike the Salmosa. Granted, some people prefer minimalist mice like this, so you may count it as a blessing depending on what you like.
If someone can get their hands on one and post a real review, I'd appreciate that. The Mico certainly looks very promising.Last edit: 2011-04-21 16:37:06 |
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| stafu Australia. April 21 2011 16:40. Posts 1180 | Profile Blog # |
1600 DPI means you move 1.2 inches to move the mouse cursor from the far left of your screen to the far right at 1920x1080. If that is too slow, you're playing with far too high sensitivity, and will probably give yourself RSI.
Just because the pros are fast, it in no way means they are playing with ridiculously high sensitivities like that. In fact there are videos of players like NaDa playing BW using the 400 DPI Mini Optical that all the BW pros use, and it looks like he actually keeps it at 1:1 (which would be best, rather than having pixel skipping). |
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| JBanKs United Kingdom. April 21 2011 22:46. Posts 581 | Profile # |
Here is a cool video showing you how to adjust the DPI of a ZOWIE MiCO
Video |
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| Ropid Germany. April 21 2011 23:03. Posts 1548 | Profile # |
On April 21 2011 16:40 stafu wrote:
1600 DPI means you move 1.2 inches to move the mouse cursor from the far left of your screen to the far right at 1920x1080. If that is too slow, you're playing with far too high sensitivity, and will probably give yourself RSI.
Just because the pros are fast, it in no way means they are playing with ridiculously high sensitivities like that. In fact there are videos of players like NaDa playing BW using the 400 DPI Mini Optical that all the BW pros use, and it looks like he actually keeps it at 1:1 (which would be best, rather than having pixel skipping).
I just did some calculations: a 400 DPI mouse at BW's 640x480 resolution makes the mouse pointer move with the same speed as a 1200 DPI mouse on a 1920 pixel wide screen, or 1050 DPI for 1680 pixel, or 800 DPI for 1280 pixel. So a 1600 DPI mouse will mean a higher sensitivity than that NaDa BW example. |
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| s1eger Korea (South). April 22 2011 00:18. Posts 123 | Profile # |
| is there anyboduy know if it has any negative or possitive acceleration or prediction i mean. because it is the maiiiiiiin problem most of the recent mouses have. |
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