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On May 05 2011 12:47 KillerSOS wrote: As much as I hate to join on the bandwagon, a vote for Cthsazsa seems to be a reasonable decision. Judging from your posts, you don't seem to hate joining bandwagons at all. | ||
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On May 05 2011 13:08 Cthsazsa wrote: I'm still confused as to how I'm scum. This is only making it worse. You've addressed the accusations. If there was no weight behind them, then just move on until they accuse you with something new. Try to scumhunt instead of defending yourself. Only scum worry about defending themselves. Town worry about finding scum. | ||
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On May 06 2011 03:34 Kurumi wrote: I wonder why he is bringing serajai's play onto this Mafia. I did not read it and I would not think that my tactic is good anymore after doing that. There's no smurfs,right? So I couldn't flip Serejai's Smurf. I'm not saying you are Serejai's smurf -_- I'm saying you were using the same scum strategy; post nonsense and act like you have no idea what's going on so people will just ignore you. It worked for Serejai last game; he avoided a lynch until I shot him (I was a vigilante). I'm not a vigilante this game, so my only way to kill you was to vote for you. Now it seems like after you went afk for a while, you've come back with a new strategy to explain your previous bad posting as some kind of gambit. But your gambit was terrible. Act scummy and accuse the people who vote for you? That's ridiculous, of course people are going to vote for you if you act scummy. That tells us nothing. So you are either town trying to act like scum for really bad reasons, or you are scum using some last ditch defense to avoid a lynch. I prefer to think that you're scum. I'm keeping my vote on Kurumi for now, but I'd also support a lynch on redtooth. He is defending Kurumi and Irish, the two most likely to get lynched today. This strikes me as scum play because a townie would be trying to get scum lynched, not trying to defend both people who are up for lynching. It's likely that all three are mafia, or perhaps that redtooth is mafia and the other two are town so he'll get town cred when either of them flips. Add in that he also is trying to discredit one of the stronger voices in this game with a whole bunch of WIFOM, and I see a pretty strong case against him. | ||
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On May 06 2011 00:03 DropBear wrote: On Lyter Lyter has 3 posts in the thread since the game began properly, 5 overall. That's cool, fair enough. Um, lol? This is either really nooby or just plain trying to hide. Take a stance! You obviously did your thinking. You have no other posts after your thinking post though. Please explain? I am not accusing you just yet but I'd like to hear your reasoning. This post rings some bells in my head. There was no need for a PbP analysis here, you just needed to tell Lyter to post more and explain his vote. Doing a PbP in this instance feels like an attempt to gain townie cred for nothing. | ||
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On May 06 2011 07:49 aidnai wrote: This was a pretty good post cthsazsa, you should do more like this. I'd like to hear more opinions on cthsazsa from kita and chaoser. So far, I agree with jackal's original reasons for pressuring, but i kind of have a null read on cthsazsa's response. The fact that he's done very little in the thread other than one-liner spam defense + a brief spat with conversion is a big strike against. But I do like his post on conversion... I'll just state this right now, I will be very surprised if kurumi does in fact flip red, and I wish sheeping townies would move their votes. There is no reason for a scum to attract attention the way that kurumi has been doing. GGQ's point about serejai is moot. There are key differences between these cases -- serejai was a hardcore lurker, kurumi is quite active; serejai was (and is) a big troll and is also demonstrably quite clever as seen by his posts elsewhere on the site, kurumi that I know of has no history on this site to make a similar conclusion; kurumi has been interacting with the thread, addressing current issues etc, serejai only did this on perhaps one occasion. There is also the language issue that makes kurumi's posts seem stranger than they actually are. And yes kurumi has made some troll posts, but that can be explained by frustration. Serejai made troll posts just because. Kurumi only started interacting with the thread and being active once we called him out on trolling and posting nonsense, and votes started piling up on him. That never happened with serejai, so we don't know how different they were. Serejai didn't make troll posts 'just because', he made them to try to disguise his alignment and make people ignore him. It worked for him, he was never a serious lynch target. I wouldn't be surprised at another scum trying the same thing. The fact is that townies don't have a real reason to troll town. I fully expect kurumi to flip red, but if he's green I'd take a look at redtooth as I explained in my previous post. Also, to a large number of people in the mafia forum: the word 'weary' is not the same as the word 'wary'. To be 'weary' means you are tired or exhausted. To be 'wary' means you are cautious or on your guard. Thank you. | ||
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My FoS is still on redtooth for now, I'm not sure if his big rules thing makes him seem more innocent or not, I'll have to go over it more carefully tomorrow evening. | ||
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On May 08 2011 09:11 orgolove wrote: I really think redtooth either needs to be checked by a dt or be lynched asap. He's been acting plenty scummy enough, and his kills will give us plenty of information both on Amber and others involved in this dispute. Dont lynch for information, it just leads to endless wifom. If we lynch redtooth it's because we think he's scum and that's all. His day 1 posts gave me a scum read, his actions since then haven't saved him in my eyes, but haven't made him more guilty either. I'm willing to give him some more time. He posts a lot, anyways, so if he's mafia he'll give himself up. Cthazsa seems to be a lot quieter now than he was on the first day, and I can't explain why. He responded with lots of posts to jackal's pressure, but now he's gone afk because of the pressure today? Maybe just because he's now a viable lynch target? His actions seems scummy enough, but I never got that vibe from his posts. I'd like to see an analysis by someone I trust more than redtooth showing him as scum. Amber seems the scummiest to me from his posts so far, but there just aren't that many of them. Amber, if you were a dayvig and had to use your power to avoid a lynch, who would you shoot? | ||
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On May 08 2011 11:36 kitaman27 wrote: Is this going to be your only post of the day cycle? You're doing to good job blending in... And all you're doing is vaguely questioning people. Post something solid. | ||
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On May 09 2011 09:15 sandroba wrote: They are both scum. If they weren't they would have already changed their vote. This doesn't make any sense, seeing as voting for each other would just give them both +1 vote and they'd stay tied. It's not like anyone else is gonna get lynched today. I like Amber's defense a lot more than Cthsasza's. Amber's a player we'd actually like to keep around for future days. Overall, though, I just have a very 'off' feel about this game. I feel like nobody actually knows what's going on, and mafia are in control. Something is very wrong somewhere. Also, -_- at all the new players that I can't get a read on because noobscum looks like noobtown to me. | ||
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On May 09 2011 09:39 Kenpachi wrote: just think as if the new players are me. it helps It really doesn't. | ||
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On May 09 2011 09:44 chaoser wrote: sandroba, Cthsazsa probably is actually retarded townie, if they were both mafia I wouldn't have a problem with letting either of them die. The fact that it's so even between the two suggests that one is indeed a mafia and the other is probably town. Amber has a stronger case and so I'm voting for him. Cthsazsa contributes nothing of value, failing to provide any defenses for his scummy play. He flounders around sweating under pressure, not sure what to do. Meanwhile Amber provides a solid defense explaining all his actions in depth, which no one has refuted, and he has the stronger case? Yeah, right. You are making this too personal. You just want to push the lynch to see if you were right about Amber. | ||
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On May 09 2011 09:54 chaoser wrote: I refuted it, go back to read my analysis of it. It's not personal. You' Your analysis was completely circular. | ||
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On May 16 2011 02:07 chaoser wrote: | ||
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