TL Mafia XXXIX
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kitaman27
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On April 30 2011 07:57 Jackal58 wrote: Get out of here asshole. Get out of here and never come back. You're tunneling. :p | ||
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On May 02 2011 08:41 Forumite wrote: Starting right now is a bad idea, we have several players from the Sleeper Cell game here, and that one is still going for a few days more. Only 2 out of 30 I believe. Me want now | ||
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On May 02 2011 08:50 Kurumi wrote: Well You need to post only 1 per day/night + 1 vote post... Don't think it is a big deal. That's the spirit -_- | ||
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On May 04 2011 11:43 chaoser wrote: Just realized that the vigi roles don't have restrictions on not being able to shoot on Day 1/Night 1. That being said, please don't fucking try to act a hero and shoot people Day/Night 1 without adequate forethought. ##Shoot: chaoser BAM! | ||
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On May 04 2011 14:09 chaoser wrote: At the same time, why so much silence on the issue from people who were clearly present? Kitaman? You pop in to say that people shouldn't edit but you don't mention a single thing about Irish, a single thing about me, and a single thing about anything. What up? I though I shot you already! :p I agree Irish was acting pretty defensive. I'm not sure I get what red is pointing to, but at least it got a response out of him. Does anyone happen to have the link to coag's old game? Would be nice to be able to compare his playstyle. | ||
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On May 04 2011 14:26 Conversion wrote: guys what does playatyle comparisons do? do you like nitpick specific common occurences in someone's town/mafia play? Obviously people can change up their style game to game, but it can give us an idea how certain people respond to certain situations. Like for example, if irish was town in coag's game and laughed off or ignored an accusation, it would make me more suspicious of him in this one. | ||
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On May 04 2011 16:27 redtooth wrote: + Show Spoiler + Longpost: Hello all. Your friendly neighborhood redtooth (aka WRAWRAWRAWRA) here. I've been gone from this forum for quite a long time so there are a lot of new faces that I don't really recognize. Some of you I do recognize but it has been too long for me to remember your meta anyways. Before we continue, let's just lay down a framework-of-sorts for being awesome: Rule 1: Don't lurk Lurking is bad - this is the first thing you should learn as a mafia player. In a worst-case scenario, the town may policy-lynch you and waste an entire day simply because you were too forgetful or too lazy to post . In a best-case scenario, you are still a potential scum suspect simply because you were lurking, a situation that could have been avoided had you actively contributed to the thread. If you want to win then don’t lurk. However, lurking isn’t limited to not posting either. “Active lurking” (the act of posting already stated ideas or not contributing any novel content in a post) is just as detrimental to the town and should be avoided at all costs. You don’t have to reinvent the wheel with every post but do your best to be as pro-town as possible in each and every post. Rule 2: Don't spam While activity within the thread is highly encouraged, creating meaningless and contentless clutter is just as anti-town an action. There will be varying degrees of time commitment exhibited by the other players and it discourages people from actively and substantively posting if there are 30 pages of clutter they have to go through every time they log on. That means no one-liner posts, even if they are votes (you should be explaining your vote anyways). Also included in that category are off-topic shit, comments on how exasperated you are, etc. On the flip side, don’t create massive walls of quotes as they simply get gleaned over more often than not (I am breaking my own rule here with this post). Random townies are more likely to quit out of boredom than scum are so try your best to be concise and be precise. On that note, if non-players (coaches, audience, not-mods) could keep their discussions out of the thread the town would greatly appreciate it. Let’s create a clutter-free environment. Rule 3: Never Give Up This is directed at townies. If you're scum, by all means feel free to give up and get modkilled or bussed. However, as mentioned above, it is likely that townies will lose interest in the game much faster than scum will. There are two provisions to this rule: don't stop participating and don't stop defending. Sometimes your ideas are overlooked or cast aside simply due to the number of strategies or targets being promoted. That doesn’t mean you should stop participating. The town may be tunneling, they may be overlooking something, you may see a scumtell nobody else believes, etc. Each members’ participation is vital to a successful town operation. Also, there will be cases where you feel extremely frustrated at the (bullshit) evidence being thrown at you despite the fact that you are town. While you may not want to purposefully drag attention to yourself beforehand (since it would be better served looking for actual scum), you should relish the opportunity to defend yourself. A well explained defense can raise the confidence others have in you and gives you more credence in town. Also, getting lynched when you’re town is not only bad for yourself but bad for the town. Do your best to stay alive. No matter how daunting the argument is, don’t give up and keep fighting until you take your last breath or the town sees the light. Rule 4: Kill Scum It’s such a simple rule but people (including myself) tend to forget it consistently. Every action you take should ultimately be an attempt to promote town activities and hunt/find scum. Disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing is not something that we benefit from and only serves to boost your ego and create rifts in the town. However, if you really feel that playing devil’s advocate is necessary then by all means go ahead. At the same time, be wary of tunneling (focusing exclusively on one person) as your conviction may convince others to pursue an incorrect lynch. Always have an open mind and a desire to be correct more than to win in your argument. Just remember to keep the main objectives in mind: find scum, prosecute scum, lynch scum, beat scum. Rule 5: Have Fun Ultimately, the game is meant to have fun. I will be the first person to admit that this is not always the case as emotions often run rampant. However, do your best not only to have fun for yourself but to promote fun for others. That means trying not to get personal with arguments/defenses and trying your hardest to be the best player you could possibly be. Also, many players are discouraged when they are given the role of town. Sometimes we think it’s a curse to be one of the many generic roles. People have different tastes but I personally believe it to be just as fun (if not more fun) than being scum. If you’re still not motivated, think of it this way: while sheeping the town is a great feeling, there is no better feeling than nailing a good scum to the wall after a war of words. Be active, be intelligent, kill scum, and enjoy. Those were all I could think of for now. Follow these guidelines and SCUM WILL LOSE GUARANTEED. Go town! Oh god. Didn't Kavdragon just get lynched last game for these kind of posts? I had a good feeling about you at first redtooth with the way you've been trying to scum hunt from the start, but these type of blah blah blah posts make me weary. Especially anyone that feels its necessary to say "Go town!" at the end of their posts -_- On May 04 2011 16:35 redtooth wrote: To start off, let's have everybody answer the following question: What is your mafia experience/backround like? This can be experience in IRL mafia, approximate # of TL mafia games played, experience playing on mafiascum, "I just arrived from Noobtown", etc. Thanks! I'll bite I guess. I've played 11-12 games. Still pretty noobish, but I would like to think I'm better than my first game. On May 04 2011 17:52 chaoser wrote: @kitaman, what do you think about the various people coming to Irish's defense with weak chainsaws? Newbie townie or devious scum? There wasn't exactly a case against him, so irish probably came out looking the worst out of everyone. It has pretty much dominated discussion so far, but I guess it is better than the "lynch inactives" campaigns we usually hear day one. I do find it Interesting that you infer anyone that defended Irish is either a newbie or a scum. Does this mean you think Irish is scum? Also, do you know redtooth from before? It seemed as if your plans were coordinated and now you are giving him town points for his wall of text. | ||
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On May 04 2011 22:37 chaos13 wrote: I realize I should not have come to Irish's defense so quickly. Huh? Why should you be worried about coming to people's defense? Only scum worry about getting connected to others. A town does not feel guilty about standing up for someone they feel is innocent. | ||
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On May 05 2011 01:07 Kurumi wrote: Chaoser,You wouldn't make any effort to defend Yourself if they were onto something,note that Irish backed off into the shadows,while You try to do something. You have two different approaches to play. Sandroba tries to play the Town Hero,he "has" the sense! Chaos13 does not know what is going on anymore. Remind me, how do you know chaoser? | ||
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On May 05 2011 01:27 sinani206 wrote: So you vote for people because there's some type of coincidence? Don't make this like SC2 Mafia, please. Echoing statements already made by jackal and chaoser. | ||
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On May 04 2011 21:37 redtooth wrote: @orgolove - The first vote was a joke between me and HeavonEarth (who I know very well from LoL days) where I wasn't in the game at all and just decided to poke at him anyways. On October 24 2010 18:01 redtooth wrote: ##vote Kitaman27 I assure everyone, there was no inside joke taking place when this vote was cast. The fact that you were smurfing in a previous game doesn't bother me, but what interests me is why would you lie about it. | ||
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On May 05 2011 05:42 Kenpachi wrote: hello there. I am Kenpachi. Why the inactivity Kepnachi? What are your thoughts on the current situation? | ||
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On May 05 2011 07:13 Cthsazsa wrote: Why would we vote off inactives? We should leave them be. If they are mafia, well they aren't that much of a threat to us since they're not participating. On the other hand, if they're a townie then that'll just put a crutch in us. We'll lose a townie, PLUS we'd have wasted our votes. People insisting that we vote off inactives just seems suspicious to me. You can't just ignore the inactives. If you do, then you end up in the end game with absolutely no information about them. In XXXVII the entire mafia team lurked. I agree we probably shouldn't lynch an inactive day one since the mafia generally can pick the inactive of their choice, but they should be identified and pressured to post. That way, later down the road we have enough information to make a case against them. | ||
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On May 05 2011 08:27 Jackal58 wrote: If anything that indicates AO is town. It's much too early to start analyzing voting patterns. If Punk is scum he will broadcast it to anybody and everybody as he continues to post. He really sucks at playing scum. I think atm the reactions of both Punk and Kurumi is just noobs. Was Punk scum in the game you hosted jackal? I asked for the link to try to compare playstyles, but no one ever posted it. | ||
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On May 05 2011 08:39 Jackal58 wrote: + Show Spoiler + On May 05 2011 08:28 kitaman27 wrote: Was Punk scum in the game you hosted jackal? I asked for the link to try to compare playstyles, but no one ever posted it. I was the co-host. But yes. You will have to join the site to see it. Do you have a link? -_- | ||
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On May 05 2011 11:29 DropBear wrote: I would also like to hear more from these players. Kitaman27 in particular was very active last game in a town power role and has been completely mia in this game. I'm hardly MIA. Reading jackals game at the moment. Redtooth completely disappeared from discussion which I find weird. Aidnai and Amber have like a combined 4 posts, which is definitely disappointing at this point. | ||
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