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TSL3 Round of 8 Recap
by Lovedrop & Heyoka


This weekend an amazing thing happened: we played the TSL3 Round of 8. As with every weekend of TSL, the games were pretty damn good. Artosis joined djWheat and Chill to give us some of the best commentary yet, while we watched the likes of BW legend Boxer play in the same weekend as reigning MLG champion NaNiwa.

Now we're here to share our recaps and interviews, with you, our loyal fans.






Day 2: Battle Reports


[image loading] (T)Empire.Kas < 3-1 > [image loading] (P)Mill.Adelscott
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[image loading] (T)Prae.ThorZaIN < 3-2 > [image loading] (P)oGsMC
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[image loading] (P)Dignitas.NaNiwa < 3-2 > [image loading] (P)coL.CrunCher
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[image loading] (P)mouz.HasuObs < 3-0> [image loading] (T)SlayerS_BoxeR
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[image loading] Empire.Kas [image loading]
Post-game Interview


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Q: Congratulations Kas, you made it to the semi-finals of the TSL3. How do you feel?

I am very glad. I feel that I've achieved something big, and it gives me more and more motivation to prepare for the next match.

Q: Adelscott showed a fast expanding macro style in his previous games, and did the same today. However, you played a very standard style that left you behind on economy in the early game. How come you didn't do all-in builds, or risky fast expansion builds?

I weighed the pros and cons, and felt that right now I'm in top form. That is why I decided to play safe, reliable builds, when it will be needed I will be able to surprise you with new strategies, no doubt.

Q: You tried to use dropship tactics in your games, but Adelscott knew exactly where you were dropping. Is this because he plays against you very often, or did he just research your style very well?

I think he simply prepared well and knew what the best drop spots and times were, it was very smart from him. Some of my drops were not ideal, but even unsuccessful drops play a role in the psychological game.

Q: In two of the games your army and Adelscott's army passed by each other and you were in a base-trade situation. Both times, Adelscott sent his army back to defend. Would you have been confident in a situation where Adelscott had just decided to keep attacking with his army?

I tried to divide his army or force a battle in good positions, because a Protoss army all together is invincible. But I was too slow and I think Adelscott could have punished me for it, in-game agitation probably lead him to make the wrong choice.

Q: The TSL3 maps have led to a lot of long, macro style games (and everyone seems to thumb-down Crossfire). Do you think this has been good for your style so far?

I think macro games are my strength, although I have a lot of room to improve I am incredibly confident in my ability to play macro games.

Q: You have taken down players from all three races with your very solid play. Which match-up do you prefer to play nowadays?

I feel that only in TvT I truly understand the game as much as I would like. Other matchups are very difficult to figure out, it depends a lot on the maps. I work hard to keep all of my matchups at their best.

Q: On a related note, your next opponent is winner of ThorZain vs MC. Who do you prefer to play against, and why?

I prefer Thorzain because it is TvT, although it would feel good to play MC again. In our last meeting I did not play well, it did not go as I wanted to in the LAN event. I would be glad to meet these unbelievably talented players again.

Q: Any last comments?

Big thanks to Team Empire for the support. Thanks to my fans and everyone who believes in me, thanks to my parents, I will give it my all in the next games!


[image loading] Prae.ThorZaiN [image loading]
Post-game Interview


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Q: Congratulations, you won against MC, how do you feel?

Ok. I know I've said that I felt great the other 2 games I won, but take that and multiply it by 10 and you get the satisfaction I feel right now.

Q: What did you do when he typed GG?

I did something very unlike me, I slammed the table really hard. Obviously not out of the normal "Hit things" feeling of anger, but rather of extreme joy.

Q: Your opponent, MC, is considered by many to be the best protoss in the world. What did you think of his play in this series?

I'm very bad at judging actually "how good" an opponent played except just seeing who won and who lost, but I felt he played pretty well. Especially on Tal'Darim Altar.

Q: In game one, he went dark templar harass. did this catch you off guard? you had excellent turret timing.

I saw that he took his 2nd gas very early so I was thinking that it probably would be DTs or possibly Void Rays. When I scouted the base above me and saw only a pylon and no Stargate I was pretty sure that it would be a DT rush, especially since there were no units there (hence no delayed mass sentry 4 gate).

His harass still did some damage, but I was able to get far ahead in the upgrades and he had 1/0 vs 2/2 in the end, so that was why he lost.

Q: In game 2, MC went for an aggressive void ray attack that did some damage. But you attacked right before his storm finished.

I believe I tricked him a bit making him think I would be teching, but he still went Void Rays. They did no damage at all in the beginning because he was putting up an expo. I scouted his expansion so I knew that I wouldn't have to be too defensive. However I had already put down 5 raxes in total so I tried to do some damage with a mass marine +1 attack. It did some damage but not enough

He then counterattacked and at one point I thought I would lose. I got my vikings and medivacs up and then I put down a third and attacked him. I managed to time it pretty well so he only had 2 storms I think. Again, I had 2/2 and he had 0/0. Hence his gateway units died like flies.

Q: Game 3 you took early damage. Did you expect MC to do what he did?

He didn't have much chrono boost saved up so I thought that he wouldn't go for early warp gate pressure. Normally I still try to scout some to see if he is or not, but this game i forgot about it. He ran pass my bunker and managed to kill like 8 scvs. From there on I knew that I had to do an all-in to have a chance, but he managed to get enough units up in time to defend it.

Q: Game 4 was quite an epic battle. MC's style seems to favor high tech over unit upgrades. What are your thoughts on this game?

I felt that I was in a good spot when I defended his 5 or 6 gate without taking much damage. However it delayed my upgrades and medivac tech, so I couldn't move out early enough to catch him without storm. I tried to but I didn't manage to kill him. From there on it turned into an epic game with a lot of fights. I often thought that I would run out of money but somehow I didn't.

We both had 4/5 bases but in the end he was able to secure the win because of his really nice feedbacks and colossus switch.

Q: You went for your thor strategy in game 5. Did you see MC hallucinate the Immortals? How did you target down the non-hallucinated ones so well?

When you have vision over his hallucinated units with detection, the SC2 AI automatically ignores them and focuses on the real units instead. His mistake was letting me see that he hallucinated some units right before the fight. It seems like a pretty clever thing to do, since this strategy depends on strike cannoning his immortals, and if there are 10+ of them, that's not very easy. So I just kept scanning during the fight.

When I have vision over his hallucinated units with detection, the SC2 AI automatically ignores them and focuses on the real units instead.

Q: You have kept your goals very humble every round. Now you are 1 win away from going to New York for the finals and earning a seed into TSL4. What are your thoughts about your TSL run now?

I am so happy with my run so far. I've really managed to beat some of the best players in the world, and now even probably the best one. I'm very thankful that I didn't get to play any Terrans yet because I fear that it's my worst match up, plus the fact that I didn't play much TvT for a very long time now, except like 10 ladder games.

Q: Your next round opponent is Kas or Adelscott. What are your thoughts on these players?

Both are great players and I don't know against whom I would like to play. I've practiced quite a bit with Adelscott because I played against Protoss and he against Terran in the last couple of rounds, so I kinda know his style. He is Protoss and since I beat MC I can probably beat any protoss in the world.

Kas is Terran which I already said is my worst match up, but that means that I will have to practice it. If I play against him, I will have a reason to actually practice TvT like I've never practiced before. And I'm pretty bored of TvP right now since I've played it an insane ammount lately. If I would play against Kas I would have to practice it. It would give me a reason to actually practice TvT like I've never practiced it before.

Q: There's been a lot of people making speculations about whether the Koreans would or would not have lost if they played on the same servers. Are you happy your match with MC happened when he was in Denmark?

I think that it is great. Before I felt that yeah it will actually make it "more fair" than it could have been if he was in Korea , which might would lead me to lose my game. However now people can't rob me of my win saying MC played with mass delay.

Q: Any last words to your legion of new fans you're going to make after this series is aired?

Hey any new fans I've made, I hope that I can keep playing as well as I've been doing in the TSL in other tournaments. Keep cheering for me to motivate me to practice more!

Also a shoutout to PaisY and NightEnD, with whom I'm in Norway at the moment, my good friend's at home GruGloG, PapaPandroni and Skutt (as in the last interview!) and to KimG for lending me his crew-spot and the TG-Crew here at The Gathering.




[image loading] Dignitas.NaNiwa [image loading]
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Q: Congratulations. How do you feel winning such a close series?

I feel extremly relieved, I wouldnt have been able to forgive myself ever if I lost to cruncher.

Q: Those are strong words -- Cruncher seems to not get much respect among some top players. What are your thoughts about him?

I didnt mean it in the sense that he is a bad player, I mean it in the sense that I'm the current MLG champion, on paper I'm a big favorite, and it would hurt my ego a lot to lose against him.

But as a player I respect him, he plays smart and in my world what he did to IdrA was smart, he abused IdrA's weakness of not being able to adapt as well as some players. Mondragon just didn't play enough to keep up with his strategies and clever style. People seem to think that micro macro is the only way to show your skill, but I disagree.

Q: The games were very close. What was your reaction right after winning the series?

My reaction was that I'm very relieved, as I had not had any time at all to prepare for this match and was a bit tired today. I am very satisfied to win, the score does not matter to me. I am just very relieved.

Q: Lets talk about the games a little. Every game you were scouting very early and all around your base. It seems you were very prepared against the proxy gates in game 1.

Well, I think cruncher is a player who likes to mix it up or perhaps even cheese, I just wanted to be sure to not fall for any his tricks. I tried to play safe.

Q: In game 2 he caught you off guard with his phoenix opening. Do you have experience against this kind of strategy?

Uhm, I know how to react, but I underestimated the durability of the phoenix. I thought I could move out with 1 colo and attack with a couple of stalkers. To be honest everything just went to hell that game, I was supposed to just expo and take the win in the later stages, but I got carried away. Nevertheless his strategy was smart and I will prepare better if I meet him again.

Q: The third game you went very fast blink, and outmicro'd him. It seems that a lot of PvP hinges on the first few units engaging, what are your thoughts on this?

Yeah, thats fine in my opinion. I messed up micro a bit but I was very unfocused these games for some reason, not sure. I will play better in my next series. But I like it in general, I think all Warcraft players do, since we are used to hero and few units vs hero and few units. situations where every unit is extremly important.

Q: In game 4 you won the first few fights 4g vs 4g, but when you expanded he was able to attack with colossus and win.

Yeah, I made a big strategical error just like on Shakuras, the only thing I could have transitioned into and been totally fine with would be blink, but somehow I thought I could expand safely...I have no excuse for this.

Q: Game 5 was very close, do you get nervous for these types of matches?

Ever since I won MLG dallas, I do not get nervous anymore. I suppose it might come if I play at a more grand stage, but right now I am always 100% calm.

Q: You had a 26-2 record at Dallas, and in the MLG Columbus thread you posted "ITS MINE". Do you feel the need to attend every MLG now to defend your title? What is your feeling about MLG and how they run tournaments compared to European ones?

To be honest I probably had one of the best times of my life at MLG dallas, big part due to the fact that I won. But I have never played insuch a professional tournament before, I think its FAR more professional and fun to play than the European tournaments, might be bad for me to mention the ones I compare to but, the majority of the European ones.

Ever since I won MLG I felt like I have proved myself, but after a few days I got hungry again. After watching MC I felt my blood boiling to reach further, and he motivates a lot of this hunger for me. I will try to go to every MLG to defend my title, i think with some Flow on my side i can for sure do it again, and with the right preparation its no doubt within my reach.

Ultimately my goal is to beat MC In a grand stage, that would be my next goal.

Q: You might get your chance, if MC beats Thorzain and Kas/Adel. Do you have a preference on who you want to play next round? Hasu / Boxer what are your thoughts on those two?

I would like to play against Boxer, as I feel a certain burden of hope on my shoulders for the WC3 fans and the community. I want to do my best to show that Warcraft players can compete with Brood War stars. They are both great players in my opinion. It would take too long to explain everything I think of both. ^^

Q: Any last words for your fans / practice partners / teammates?

I wanna thank Socke, Bling for their practice with me, it was quite helpful. Thanks to my team (Dignitas) and the sponsors of course!



[image loading] mouz.HasuObs [image loading]
Post-game Interview


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Q: Congratulations, how do you feel?

Thank you! I feel very exhausted because the games were thrilling, but besides that I feel damn good. I'm in the Semi-finals of the TSL, just won against the Emperor 3-0, thats unbelievable.

Q: All games went into late game, but you won convincingly 3-0. Did the games go as you planned? What did you think about Boxer's play?

Everything besides Xel'Naga went pretty much like I planned, yes. On the first map Boxer made some minor mistakes in the middle, which cost him a lot of units, then I was ahead. 2nd map was 200 vs 200 for a long time, but I was able to trade his main base for 2 of my expos and got ahead in production. The third map I actually wanted to play a totally different strategy, but I had a bad feeling that Boxer was doing some kind of timing push. He didn't do that, so once again it came to a late macro game.

Overall I think BoxeR played way better than vs NightEnd, he tried to be more agressive and used some nice EMPs on my HT.

Q: You are now one game away from securing a seed into TSL4. Do you appreciate the direct seed more now that you went through the qualifying process once?

Hehe, I didn't even know about that. I don't think about TSL4 yet, all that matters is TSL3. I want to make it as far as possible, but obviously a direct seed would be nice!

Q: In game 2, you built over 30 warp gates when both of you were maxed for so long. Do you feel these situations benefit Protoss or Terran?

Once it comes to this extremely late games where both players are maxed for about 10 minutes it benefits protoss. Especially in that game it favored me because as I said, I traded his production for 2 expos. That was a clear mistake by BoxeR I think. But I tell you, replenishing your army with more than 30 gateways feels good.

Q: The last game Boxer used EMP very well, and it ended up very close. Do you get nervous in high-pressure situations? Do you feel that being up 2-0 helped your mental game?

I got very nervous when he first saw my nexus at the 3rd expansion. Untill that point I was confident, but then I felt under pressure. Being on 2 base while terran has 3 bases, one at the gold secured by a planetary is not the best situation. But I managed to kill alot of SCVs and had some good fights, even though his EMPs got nearly all of my HT.

I think, leading 2-0 gives a small mental edge, but not too much. Boxer is playing for several years at a high level, so do I. It does not effect us too much I believe.

Q: Did you know Boxer when you played WarCraft 3? Did you ever think then that you'd be playing him in a tournament match? Does it make this match any extra special to you knowing his progaming history?

Seriously... of course I know BoxeR. I watched alot of VODs from his SC1 playstyle, I always enjoyed his games in the Korean leagues. But during tournaments I don't think too much about who I'm facing, I follow my gameplan and try to overwhelm my opponent. But now, after the games are done, I think I can be proud of myself that I won against Boxer. Still I would not overrate a single series, Boxer is an extremly good player.

Q: Your next round opponent will be a Protoss, either Naniwa or Cruncher. What do you think about them?

I think that Naniwa has probably the strongest PvP right now. Cruncher seems to have some really good builds and good micro, but I think Naniwa is the favorite. But I would not count out Cruncher.

Q: Do you have a preference on who you'd rather play?

Hmm, no, not really. Since its going to be a mirror match either way I don't mind. As I said, I feel that Naniwa has some of the best PvP worldwide, so... maybe it would be good for me to meet cruncher. haha.

Q: You have been very busy, as have most players who are in multiple leagues. What are your thoughts on this? Too many games? Or very good that SC2 is so huge?

Yes indeed, the last weeks I've been very busy. I couldn't even see my girlfriend for a while, because I was in Italy, then England and now I'm going to France. After the tournament in France I will take a small break and enjoy some days without SC2! Overall I think, there cannot be enough tournaments. It is just great to be part of the SC2 community right now, also watching SC2 growing from month to month is extremly nice.

Q: Congrats and good luck in France. any last thanks for practice partners or words to your fans?

First of all I have to thank Delphi and Stephano, I got forgot to mention them after my victory against Morrow! A big thanks to Strelok who helped me in the last few days. Thanks to my team Mousesports and all their partners and sponsors. Thanks to all my supporters and fans, it is such a good feeling when people are cheering. Follow me on http://www.facebook.com/HasuObs

Most of all thanks to all my fans for cheering for me. As a player who is not used to having a lot of fans, it always warms my heart alot when I get the support. I will continue to try to do my best!



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 dtz   April 26 2011 15:24. Posts 3918
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go go thorzain! i really want a thorzain naniwa final. I think Best TvPer against Best PvTer outside of Korea at the moment.

Too bad TvT is by far Thorzain's worst MU. But seeing his interview gives me hope that he can bust out some insane prepared strategies for the semifinal.
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 Ansinjunger   United States. April 26 2011 15:27. Posts 1901
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Great interviews. Game 4 of MC/Thorzain was indeed epic.
 
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  Antoine   United States. April 26 2011 15:38. Posts 6256Profile Blog # 
At this point I am definitely rooting for Thorzain, although I can't help but feel going up against Kas in TvT will be at least an equal challenge to taking on MC
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 hiyo_bye   United States. April 26 2011 15:38. Posts 733
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The interviews are great; everyone seems likable, even Nani :O
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 EchelonTee   United States. April 26 2011 15:44. Posts 3404
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Thorzain deserved his wins, hopes he continues to be a long lasting world class player.
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 SgtPepper   United States. April 26 2011 15:44. Posts 567
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I <3 ThorZain!

I hope he practices TvT 24/7
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 Ezkaton   Australia. April 26 2011 15:45. Posts 356
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Great interviews!! I'm liking Nani more and more, he's matured so much as a person
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 space_yes   United States. April 26 2011 15:50. Posts 548
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I really hope we get to see a Thorzain v Naniwa finals though I'm not sure if Thorzain can make it past Kas. Kas seems to have good TvT..
 
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 TheDominator   New Zealand. April 26 2011 15:52. Posts 333
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I can't make up my mind on who to cheer for. I think all 4 players deserve their spots so far. If I had to guess who would win though, I think Kas will beat Thorzain, because Kas is just awesome and since Thorzain said that TvT isn't his best. I would like Hasu to beat Naniwa, but I think Naniwa has a higher chance.
This will be epic!!!!
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 slyderturtle   United States. April 26 2011 15:52. Posts 155
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Hahaha i totally thought Nani was BMing cruncher at first

Awesome interviews in general, hopefully thorzain manages to get past Kas, but I actually think it will be harder than MC
 
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 LittLeD   Sweden. April 26 2011 15:57. Posts 7427
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Great, great Interviews and great marches ahead of us. Also i couldn't help but notice that I'm very familiar with the remaining players
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 Zim23   United States. April 26 2011 15:59. Posts 1626
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Yeah if Thorzain wins this it'll be one of the most impressive runs in SC2 history. Definitely rooting for him. Great interviews!
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 LuckyMacro   United States. April 26 2011 16:12. Posts 1357
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I liked all these interviews. Wouldn't mind any final with any of these players.
 
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 knL   Germany. April 26 2011 16:17. Posts 400
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There is a little mistake in the Thorzain interview.


I will have a reason to actually practice TvT like I've never practiced before. And I'm pretty bored of TvP right now since I've played it an insane ammount lately. If I would play against Kas I would have to practice it. It would give me a reason to actually practice TvT like I've never practiced it before.


Great stuff. Thanks guys.
 
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  heyoka       Administrator       April 26 2011 16:22.Profile Blog # 
Thats exactly how he responded, I decided to not edit because it shows a bit how serious he is.
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 Telcontar   United Kingdom. April 26 2011 16:24. Posts 15851
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I'm a little worried that Kas might walk over ThorZain but hopefully, he'll have enough time to practice his TvT.

I'm not exactly sure how good Hasu's PvP is so I'll give the edge to Naniwa. It'll be very close though IMO.
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 KDN   Norway. April 26 2011 16:28. Posts 96
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Dare we wish for a finale between the Swedes? Everyone of the last players could make it to the final and win it.

ThorZaIN vs MC was defiantly my highlight out of this weekends games.
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 Vundox   United States. April 26 2011 16:30. Posts 182
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wow I love of all them but I really liked HasuObs' interview
implying Suzy isn't perfect
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 Dakmaniac   April 26 2011 16:40. Posts 193
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tbh i was cheering for BoxeR first but after the games and this Interview i just have to say : Hasu sooo good and mannered :D

gogo take the TSL3 home to germany HasuObs !!!!
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