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 Silvanel   Poland. July 15 2011 02:54. Posts 1761
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I am so pumped and hyped for this, i rrealy want to watch it live, but unfortunetly i have to go to work early next day, so i will watch some vod i suppose.
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 Dagobert   Netherlands. July 15 2011 02:54. Posts 1588
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IdrA: "I would like to thank my sponsors, team, families... "

hahahahahaha... man, this is hilarious.
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 Tech0   Bulgaria. July 15 2011 02:58. Posts 43
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The Starcraft2 community needs tournaments like IPL(without Koreans). Thumbs up for the tournament and the prize money. GL to White-Ra, Axslav and Idra.

Respect to IPL and its organizers/sponsors
Speshul taktiks bitches! White-Ra!
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  soul5   Germany. July 15 2011 03:09. Posts 33Profile # 

On July 15 2011 02:58 Tech0 wrote:
The Starcraft2 community needs tournaments like IPL(without Koreans). Thumbs up for the tournament and the prize money. GL to White-Ra, Axslav and Idra.

Respect to IPL and its organizers/sponsors



Select is Korean dude.
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 TuxThePenguin   July 15 2011 03:11. Posts 32
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some unlucky 1st round draws select vs ret, strelok vs kiwi, thorzain vs axslav. =O
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 IPA   United States. July 15 2011 03:13. Posts 2775
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On July 15 2011 02:58 Tech0 wrote:
The Starcraft2 community needs tournaments like IPL(without Koreans). Thumbs up for the tournament and the prize money. GL to White-Ra, Axslav and Idra.

Respect to IPL and its organizers/sponsors


Couldn't disagree more. In order to be the best, we have to beat the best. The attitude you expressed comes across as weak to me. Would you want all african americans out of the NBA so that the white dudes could showcase their middle-class skills?

Still, IPL is amazing. Will be watching live tonight. GOGO IdrA!
To die having made something more equal to the centuries than muscle and bone is mostly to shed weakness.
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 cybertopo   Spain. July 15 2011 03:24. Posts 496
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On July 15 2011 03:13 IPA wrote:

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Couldn't disagree more. In order to be the best, we have to beat the best. The attitude you expressed comes across as weak to me. Would you want all african americans out of the NBA so that the white dudes could showcase their middle-class skills?



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Also, I agree with you
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 RogerChillingworth   July 15 2011 03:26. Posts 2266
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ahahha, I love Nerchio. Hope he crushes major ~~
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 puzzl   United States. July 15 2011 03:48. Posts 262
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What's with the rigged brackets? Why are people so deathly afraid of mirror matchups? They are a third of the game. Yuck. If you want to seed the top 4 players from last tournament, fine, but the rest of the people should be randomly distributed, not hand chosen like this.
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 Pugget   United States. July 15 2011 03:48. Posts 209
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On July 15 2011 03:13 IPA wrote:

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Couldn't disagree more. In order to be the best, we have to beat the best. The attitude you expressed comes across as weak to me. Would you want all african americans out of the NBA so that the white dudes could showcase their middle-class skills?

Still, IPL is amazing. Will be watching live tonight. GOGO IdrA!


I find this attitude to be missing the point a bit. Everyone in the IPL, no doubt, wants to be able to beat the best. I'm sure that's a goal of everyone involved. However, when developing a skill, be it music, sports, writing, whatever, it often helps to work and play with people at similar levels to yourself AS WELL as those who are better. They offer different types of environments to improve, both necessary for anyone serious about making a career out of a competitive skill. I know of no competitor who didn't come up through the ranks, working at multiple levels at once to get better.

The "hit your head against a wall" approach, where the wall are the Koreans, is not helpful. I want to see a vibrant American scene, and it seems IGN understands how to built just that. This isn't about racism, or classism, it's about skill level. Just like it makes sense to have women-only tourneys, it makes sense to havre NA/EURO only tourneys. There are already plenty of tourneys that allow all players to come and compete.
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 Jakalo   Latvia. July 15 2011 04:00. Posts 2347
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ok fungals
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
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  IGNProLeague   July 15 2011 04:07. Posts 1147Profile # 

On July 15 2011 03:48 puzzl wrote:
What's with the rigged brackets? Why are people so deathly afraid of mirror matchups? They are a third of the game. Yuck. If you want to seed the top 4 players from last tournament, fine, but the rest of the people should be randomly distributed, not hand chosen like this.


They were seeded in, there was no hand choosing!
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 Jakalo   Latvia. July 15 2011 04:08. Posts 2347
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On July 15 2011 04:07 IGNProLeague wrote:

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They were seeded in, there was no hand choosing!


People starts to suspect things if everything goes too well
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
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 oDDable   United States. July 15 2011 04:20. Posts 54
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Wow, all the QQing in this thread about the lack of Koreans. Its one of 5 major tournaments, the other 4 have Koreans. Relaaaaaax.
Machine - QXC - MC - HuK
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 Jtn   July 15 2011 04:22. Posts 444
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Painuser sounds like he's having trouble breathing.
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 Pugget   United States. July 15 2011 04:24. Posts 209
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IGN just posted this rather tasty highlight video from the quals. If the production here is a promise of what's to come, I'm fucking thrilled.

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 KimJongChill   United States. July 15 2011 04:55. Posts 6424
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Time for destiny to break into the pro scene heh heh :D
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 Lowell   Germany. July 15 2011 05:06. Posts 342
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On July 15 2011 03:48 Pugget wrote:

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I find this attitude to be missing the point a bit. Everyone in the IPL, no doubt, wants to be able to beat the best. I'm sure that's a goal of everyone involved. However, when developing a skill, be it music, sports, writing, whatever, it often helps to work and play with people at similar levels to yourself AS WELL as those who are better. They offer different types of environments to improve, both necessary for anyone serious about making a career out of a competitive skill. I know of no competitor who didn't come up through the ranks, working at multiple levels at once to get better.

The "hit your head against a wall" approach, where the wall are the Koreans, is not helpful. I want to see a vibrant American scene, and it seems IGN understands how to built just that. This isn't about racism, or classism, it's about skill level. Just like it makes sense to have women-only tourneys, it makes sense to havre NA/EURO only tourneys. There are already plenty of tourneys that allow all players to come and compete.


A tournament is supposed to find the best player, not to help anyone improve, that is what practise is for. I could understand a "only americans because its an american tournament" approach, but "everyone but koreans, because they are better and some people want to see white dudes win" is stupid.
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 Pugget   United States. July 15 2011 05:47. Posts 209
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On July 15 2011 05:06 Lowell wrote:
A tournament is supposed to find the best player, not to help anyone improve, that is what practise is for. I could understand a "only americans because its an american tournament" approach, but "everyone but koreans, because they are better and some people want to see white dudes win" is stupid.



The best player within a particular context, yes. But, amazing as it may be to some, there are many tournaments that have other goals besides just finding the best player. I thought the interview with the people behind the IPL made it fairly clear they are playing a more layered game than just "trying to find the best player."
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 -Archangel-   Croatia. July 15 2011 08:02. Posts 3605
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Season 2 will be awesome but it would be even more awesome if it was earlier for EU or at least if they would do the EU restream next day like NASL did.
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