| ii.blitzkrieg Canada. September 20 2011 11:02. Posts 851 | Profile Blog # |
On September 20 2011 09:43 Release wrote:
Which player achieved the highest recorded average APM in a recorded game? What game was it? How much apm?
I know there was one where July had a peak 818, only average 410 though. I heard and seen that Bisu and Hero are pretty fast, but have no specific info about them.
Well I haven't paid much attention to the apm counter in a couple years but the highest I remember was like 550? by casy I think. I vaguely remember another terran getting 500+ in a pro game. I think effort is another player who is very fast. (maybe not 500+ apm fast though)
For peak apm I remember a game of July again that was like 910 or so around the same time of the 818 one iirc. |
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| iloveav Poland. September 20 2011 18:15. Posts 820 | Profile # |
On September 20 2011 11:02 ii.blitzkrieg wrote:
Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 09:43 Release wrote:
Which player achieved the highest recorded average APM in a recorded game? What game was it? How much apm?
I know there was one where July had a peak 818, only average 410 though. I heard and seen that Bisu and Hero are pretty fast, but have no specific info about them.
Well I haven't paid much attention to the apm counter in a couple years but the highest I remember was like 550? by casy I think. I vaguely remember another terran getting 500+ in a pro game. I think effort is another player who is very fast. (maybe not 500+ apm fast though) For peak apm I remember a game of July again that was like 910 or so around the same time of the 818 one iirc.
If i remmber right, NADA played a game at some show like battke.net atack or something like that and had average over 800, but i cannot confirm that.
I do know my maximum average was 589 in 1 game.
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| samiamquinn Australia. September 21 2011 23:14. Posts 135 | Profile # |
| I'm sick of being cheesed in SC2.. Is low level broodwar really cheesy or do you get lots of macro games? |
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doubleupgradeobbies!  Australia. September 21 2011 23:20. Posts 960 | Profile Blog # |
On September 21 2011 23:14 samiamquinn wrote:
I'm sick of being cheesed in SC2.. Is low level broodwar really cheesy or do you get lots of macro games?
A bit of both really, you will get a good number of both types if you play on say, iccup. |
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| Release United States. September 22 2011 12:44. Posts 3973 | Profile Blog # |
On September 21 2011 23:14 samiamquinn wrote:
I'm sick of being cheesed in SC2.. Is low level broodwar really cheesy or do you get lots of macro games?
During stat resets, iccup gets really cheesy because people want to quickly get from D to their former rank. |
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| kidcrash United States. September 22 2011 17:25. Posts 444 | Profile Blog # |
Lately I've been doing some off racing as Z in ZvT and I have a question about spire placement during 3 hatch muta.
I'm not sure if my timings are off but usually when my lair finishes, my 3rd hatch has also just finished and the creep is starting to spread. My options are put the spire down closer to my main and risk a scan seeing it or waiting about 5 or so seconds for the creep to spread and putting the spire down out of potential view.
Is delaying the spire to place it out of view worth it to hide tech/force a wasted scan or is my 3rd hatchery timing just late? |
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| lyAsakura United States. September 23 2011 14:44. Posts 1412 | Profile Blog # |
On September 22 2011 17:25 kidcrash wrote:
Lately I've been doing some off racing as Z in ZvT and I have a question about spire placement during 3 hatch muta.
I'm not sure if my timings are off but usually when my lair finishes, my 3rd hatch has also just finished and the creep is starting to spread. My options are put the spire down closer to my main and risk a scan seeing it or waiting about 5 or so seconds for the creep to spread and putting the spire down out of potential view.
Is delaying the spire to place it out of view worth it to hide tech/force a wasted scan or is my 3rd hatchery timing just late?
Your third hatch is supposed to finish when lair started. |
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| kidcrash United States. September 23 2011 15:25. Posts 444 | Profile Blog # |
On September 23 2011 14:44 lyAsakura wrote:
Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 17:25 kidcrash wrote:
Lately I've been doing some off racing as Z in ZvT and I have a question about spire placement during 3 hatch muta.
I'm not sure if my timings are off but usually when my lair finishes, my 3rd hatch has also just finished and the creep is starting to spread. My options are put the spire down closer to my main and risk a scan seeing it or waiting about 5 or so seconds for the creep to spread and putting the spire down out of potential view.
Is delaying the spire to place it out of view worth it to hide tech/force a wasted scan or is my 3rd hatchery timing just late?
Your third hatch is supposed to finish when lair started.
LoL I'm a terrible Z. Thanks. |
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| craz3d Bulgaria. September 23 2011 23:42. Posts 689 | Profile # |
On September 21 2011 23:14 samiamquinn wrote:
I'm sick of being cheesed in SC2.. Is low level broodwar really cheesy or do you get lots of macro games?
There's plenty of cheese, but it can be scouted and prevented. Of course as was alluded to in a post above mine, at the beginning of the season you will be playing with a lot of people who were C or B rank the previous season so even if they fail their cheese they can still get back in the game and kick your ass through better mechanics if you are a much lower level player. But this is what I play for: to get better and face better opponents.
All in all, I've been playing mostly macro games that usually last anywhere form 10-20 minutes. |
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| TheGlassface United States. September 24 2011 01:27. Posts 612 | Profile # |
About cheese...
All strategies are viable. Your opponent is taking extreme risks to put you out of the game quickly, with a very large chance of failure. Scout it, defend it, then win.
Playing against cheese improves your play and so does executing it yourself.
I really wish it wasn't the red headed step child of starcraft because cheese is extremely exciting to watch, play against or play with. |
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| flowSthead September 24 2011 03:23. Posts 1035 | Profile Blog # |
I've been using the search function for about half an hour with all different kinds of ways to write winner (champion, finals, etc.) and msl/osl to find this thread. The thread had a list of BroodWar championships, who won how many gold, silver, and bronze medals, for the MSL, OSL, and maybe others as well. I can't remember what it was called or anything like that.
It's not this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=169019
I think I remember it having a graphic of gold, silver, and bronze for the medals, but I could be mis-remembering. In any case, I would love some help in finding this thread.
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| Kyuukyuu Canada. September 24 2011 03:56. Posts 5472 | Profile Blog # | |
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| flowSthead September 24 2011 09:51. Posts 1035 | Profile Blog # |
Thank you. For some reason I thought there was a thread with some analysis as well, but maybe I was just looking at Liquipedia. It didn't even occur to me to check there since I thought it was on TL proper. |
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| Release United States. September 24 2011 13:06. Posts 3973 | Profile Blog # |
| What is the correct transition out of a 10hatch zergling "all-in" if your opponent does 9pool lair, but sunkens up? |
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| jjhchsc2 Korea (South). September 24 2011 15:01. Posts 2390 | Profile # |
On September 24 2011 13:06 Release wrote:
What is the correct transition out of a 10hatch zergling "all-in" if your opponent does 9pool lair, but sunkens up?
how many sunkens? if only one then you can just bust his ass since you have 2x production of lings.
if more than 1-2 then just drone up a bit and get spores/lair your self. and if he goes greedy and doesnt produce many lings you can still bust his drones and carry your eco advantage to victory.
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| Retgery Canada. September 24 2011 23:55. Posts 1165 | Profile # |
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 djbhINDI United States. September 26 2011 11:19. Posts 372 | Profile # |
On September 21 2011 23:14 samiamquinn wrote:
I'm sick of being cheesed in SC2.. Is low level broodwar really cheesy or do you get lots of macro games?
It's not as cheesy as Bronze in SC2, but 90% of zergs at D- 4pool |
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| ZeroTool September 26 2011 13:31. Posts 3 | Profile # |
Hi people. Please help me find a vod of an old match or just give some hints on players/map/tourney, I don't remember anything and so don't know what to search for. 
The only things I remember: it's a TvZ match (most probably well-known), T spawns at top, Z bottom right, Z starts a spire and then easily scoutable hydra den, SCV sees a hydra den and goes home, Z cancels hydra den and rapes T with mutas. Couldn't find it myself. |
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| gn0m Sweden. September 26 2011 18:57. Posts 301 | Profile # |
| When I click a gateway when macroing, I must release the mouse button before clicking Z/D etc. If I’m still pressing the mouse button, the other key input is neglected. Is it like this for everyone and if not, how can I fix it? |
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