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| NationInArms United States. October 04 2011 12:58. Posts 1534 | Profile Blog # |
On October 04 2011 11:57 therockmanxx wrote:
How do I check for Lag in batlenet ?
Ppl always say "its lag, its lag, you are lag" even before the game start
Usually they are wrong but I know they have a way to find it out
Thanks...
for iccup type /ping to find out the latency and ping. Higher number means more ping, more latency, and more lag.
I haven't played BW competitively in the past 4 months so since I'm trying to get back in, what builds should I learn as a beginner Terran? In the summer I used TvP Flash Build (double armory), TvZ 3 Tank 1 Vessel and 3 Rax Fast Tech (flash's "new" build), and TvT 3(or maybe 5) Fact push.Last edit: 2011-10-04 12:59:01 |
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| puppykiller United States. October 04 2011 15:07. Posts 1977 | Profile Blog # |
On October 04 2011 12:58 NationInArms wrote:
Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 11:57 therockmanxx wrote:
How do I check for Lag in batlenet ?
Ppl always say "its lag, its lag, you are lag" even before the game start
Usually they are wrong but I know they have a way to find it out
Thanks...
for iccup type /ping to find out the latency and ping. Higher number means more ping, more latency, and more lag. I haven't played BW competitively in the past 4 months so since I'm trying to get back in, what builds should I learn as a beginner Terran? In the summer I used TvP Flash Build (double armory), TvZ 3 Tank 1 Vessel and 3 Rax Fast Tech (flash's "new" build), and TvT 3(or maybe 5) Fact push.
I would for sure recommend +1 4 rax in tvz. You could try messing with rax fe in tvp but its a newer build and its gonna for sure take a lot of research. |
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| Snipinpanda United States. October 04 2011 15:35. Posts 1210 | Profile Blog # |
On October 04 2011 11:31 Zariel wrote:
Is there like a 0.1 second command/menu delay in BW?
In SC2, I press keys very very fast, like building a supply depot for example (B+S), in BW, my SCV just ends up stopping, it's as if it doesn't register me pressing B at all. I find I need to press B, then have this 0.1-0.2 second pause (pretty much wait for the menu to pop up then press S).
No. There is no delay. I can sometimes plant a building without actually seeing the marker. But if you press s before you release b it might not register, so make sure you release. |
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| MinscandBoo October 05 2011 08:57. Posts 79 | Profile Blog # |
| I'm trying to play on fish but its hard to find games because people are unwilling to wait for me to download the maps. Whats curious about this is that I HAVE downloaded the maps. I got fighting spirit from the kespa site and also downloaded chef's map pack. I have also had hosts wait while i downloaded and played 2 games so far, so logic would stand to say that i have the maps on my comp but I still find that the game needs to download the map before every game. Anyone else have this problem? Is it some sort of setting I can change? |
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| CobaltBlu United States. October 05 2011 13:39. Posts 438 | Profile Blog # |
On October 05 2011 08:57 MinscandBoo wrote:
I'm trying to play on fish but its hard to find games because people are unwilling to wait for me to download the maps. Whats curious about this is that I HAVE downloaded the maps. I got fighting spirit from the kespa site and also downloaded chef's map pack. I have also had hosts wait while i downloaded and played 2 games so far, so logic would stand to say that i have the maps on my comp but I still find that the game needs to download the map before every game. Anyone else have this problem? Is it some sort of setting I can change?
I haven't found a solution to this other than to host. Koreans like to rename the map name so it appears at the top of the list or something. |
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| scarper65 October 05 2011 14:56. Posts 1253 | Profile Blog # |
| Hey guys, I just switched over from sc2. In sc2, I'm a masters terran however in bw I have no idea what to do. I can comfortably beat the ai in every matchup, yet the second I play anything in bw I just get completely dominated. I'm especially having trouble with controlling my armies. Any suggestions on how to improve? Thanks |
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| Black[CAT] Malaysia. October 05 2011 17:47. Posts 2543 | Profile Blog # |
On October 05 2011 14:56 scarper65 wrote:
Hey guys, I just switched over from sc2. In sc2, I'm a masters terran however in bw I have no idea what to do. I can comfortably beat the ai in every matchup, yet the second I play anything in bw I just get completely dominated. I'm especially having trouble with controlling my armies. Any suggestions on how to improve? Thanks
What I did when I was still noob was, go to singleplayer, use cheats, make huge ass army..
Practice your own hoykey system, then practice 1a2a3a4a around the map and such..
Basically, learn how to hotkey-rehotkey stuff quickly and maneuver and control large group of armies.
The goal is to improve control, don't kill the computer. |
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| dementrio October 05 2011 18:03. Posts 678 | Profile # |
On October 05 2011 14:56 scarper65 wrote:
Hey guys, I just switched over from sc2. In sc2, I'm a masters terran however in bw I have no idea what to do. I can comfortably beat the ai in every matchup, yet the second I play anything in bw I just get completely dominated. I'm especially having trouble with controlling my armies. Any suggestions on how to improve? Thanks
I'm a sc2 switcher myself, the obvious answer is just play, however a few tips that can maybe save you some rage:
search for "stylish fpvods". There is a thread that is singlehandedly the best resource on TL for terran beginners
get used to move commands, hold position and target firing. In sc2, armies clump up and act as a single unit. In BW, units act individually and are more stupid in general, so for instance if you tell an army to a-move across the map, half your army could go in a completely different direction because on the way they caught a glimpse of an enemy probe; or some units may shoot at a pylon instead of a dragoon when both are in range.
and, some may disagree, I found helpful the suggestion of starting out with "cheesy" 1 base build to practice multitasking. 2rax and sparks tvz, the 2fact build you find in stylish' threat tvp, and wing it tvt because guides for that are much worse |
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| therockmanxx Peru. October 06 2011 07:49. Posts 1105 | Profile # |
| Whts the name of the with a million lurkers egg? |
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| ZeroChrome Canada. October 06 2011 07:54. Posts 335 | Profile # |
On October 06 2011 07:49 therockmanxx wrote:
Whts the name of the with a million lurkers egg?
Plasma or Triathlon. Both have many eggs. |
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| Mottz Portugal. October 06 2011 09:53. Posts 101 | Profile # |
On October 05 2011 14:56 scarper65 wrote:
Hey guys, I just switched over from sc2. In sc2, I'm a masters terran however in bw I have no idea what to do. I can comfortably beat the ai in every matchup, yet the second I play anything in bw I just get completely dominated. I'm especially having trouble with controlling my armies. Any suggestions on how to improve? Thanks
About the army control, get used to add units to control groups, using ctrl+number to create a ctrl grp and shift+number to add the selected units to that particular ctrl grp.
Forget about having an hotkey for each unit type, bunch everything up and micro using your mouse, keep 1 ctrl group for special units, like harass or casters. when going bio however you want marine only group for more efficient stim.
Just get used to the ctrl grps and the macro, since those are the major diferences from sc2, about the strategy part id advise you watching streams, not progames since you wont be able to learn much without the basics learnt. |
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| Release United States. October 06 2011 10:59. Posts 3982 | Profile Blog # |
Why don't more pro terrans cover their turrets/SCVs with unused ebays/barracks? (i've seen a few games where it has been done)
Seems very effective against muta harass and limits reaver harass. |
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| CaffeineFree-_- United States. October 06 2011 12:45. Posts 641 | Profile Blog # |
They do with mech, it's done pretty much all the time on say FS where the vision behind will give turrets/gols so much extra range. Otherwise the ebay/rax is needed with bio. You might think 'oh its only 125 mineral' but while doing your vessel build you will be pretty tight throughout on cash, if you're doing it properly.
Sometimes TvP it's done on a turret near the edge so the protoss isn't ready to pull back immediately, but if it's not a turret ring and its like 1 turret near the CC it's better to have it lifted on the edge of your base to give you a heads up on incoming drop. Same reason people depot the edge of there base. |
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| NationInArms United States. October 06 2011 13:08. Posts 1534 | Profile Blog # |
What is the latency trick that allows people to make games on iccup when they would usually not be bale too?
And what is the follow up to 2 Rax FE vs Zerg? I force the Zerg to build like 6 sunkens and then I don't kno what to do.Last edit: 2011-10-06 13:38:11 |
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| MinscandBoo October 06 2011 14:12. Posts 79 | Profile Blog # |
| Do you still have to forward your ports to be able to host? |
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| CaffeineFree-_- United States. October 06 2011 15:08. Posts 641 | Profile Blog # |
On October 06 2011 13:08 NationInArms wrote:
What is the latency trick that allows people to make games on iccup when they would usually not be bale too?
And what is the follow up to 2 Rax FE vs Zerg? I force the Zerg to build like 6 sunkens and then I don't kno what to do.
Friend 1 hosts a game. Friend 2 attempts to join, gets lat unable to join. Then he creates his own game. Friend 1 then leaves his game(after friend 2 made his game) and joins friend 2 game.
On October 06 2011 14:12 MinscandBoo wrote:
Do you still have to forward your ports to be able to host?
Yes, unless you do the above method. Also if you join a game, all the players in that game(before it starts, the play list pic race part etc..) will be able to join your game if you follow same steps as above. So say I join a game hosted by player 8, with plays 2-7 also in there. I can lat trick and players 2-7 will be able to join my game. |
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| Mottz Portugal. October 06 2011 18:19. Posts 101 | Profile # |
On October 05 2011 08:57 MinscandBoo wrote:
I'm trying to play on fish but its hard to find games because people are unwilling to wait for me to download the maps. Whats curious about this is that I HAVE downloaded the maps. I got fighting spirit from the kespa site and also downloaded chef's map pack. I have also had hosts wait while i downloaded and played 2 games so far, so logic would stand to say that i have the maps on my comp but I still find that the game needs to download the map before every game. Anyone else have this problem? Is it some sort of setting I can change?
I posted this on http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195442¤tpage=16#315 , i find this: http://www.gamefront.com/files/20774820/%5B4%5D%C3%85%C3%B5%C3%88%C2%A51.4.rar , is the most used version of FS.Last edit: 2011-10-06 18:19:29 |
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| dementrio October 06 2011 18:42. Posts 678 | Profile # |
On October 06 2011 15:08 CaffeineFree-_- wrote:
Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 13:08 NationInArms wrote:
What is the latency trick that allows people to make games on iccup when they would usually not be bale too?
And what is the follow up to 2 Rax FE vs Zerg? I force the Zerg to build like 6 sunkens and then I don't kno what to do.
Friend 1 hosts a game. Friend 2 attempts to join, gets lat unable to join. Then he creates his own game. Friend 1 then leaves his game(after friend 2 made his game) and joins friend 2 game.
Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 14:12 MinscandBoo wrote:
Do you still have to forward your ports to be able to host?
Yes, unless you do the above method. Also if you join a game, all the players in that game(before it starts, the play list pic race part etc..) will be able to join your game if you follow same steps as above. So say I join a game hosted by player 8, with plays 2-7 also in there. I can lat trick and players 2-7 will be able to join my game.
This is a technique named STUN, although it is probably accidental. If this works you should be able to simply get your ports forwared. This wouldn't work if there are more than 1 starcraft client in your network, and there instances of whole ISPs that put their customers behind 1 ip. |
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| whatusername Canada. October 06 2011 22:19. Posts 1127 | Profile Blog # |
| are there any benefits to doing 8 overlord instead of 9 to 12 hatch? or is it exactly the same thing |
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| XsebT Denmark. October 07 2011 00:14. Posts 2831 | Profile Blog # |
On October 06 2011 22:19 whatusername wrote:
are there any benefits to doing 8 overlord instead of 9 to 12 hatch? or is it exactly the same thing
You do 9 overlord because it's just more economically advantageous.
The only time it's ever logical to make an 8 overlord is when you 9 pool speed. (If you don't, your pool will finish before overlord - making it inefficient)Last edit: 2011-10-07 00:17:41 |
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