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[TSL] Finals, 3rd-4th Recap and Interviews

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[TSL] Finals, 3rd-4th Recap and Interviews
May 20th, 2011 16:11 | TSL
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TSL3 Grand Finals Recap
by Lovedrop & Heyoka

WOW


What else is there to say? The finalists brought their A game, and delivered us the closest, most tense series of the TSL. As with every other TSL finals, ThorZaIN found himself with his back against the wall and managed to rally to not only take it to the 7th game, but won the whole thing. A few all-ins, a few macro games, an amusing catchphrase, safe to say we covered all of our bases with this one.

Not to discredit Kas and HasuObs of course. Their playoff for the seed into TSL4 was also incredible, lasting 6 games with Kas edging out Hasu just barely. All in all, an amazing way to close out TSL.

Here we are with the interviews and recaps from last weekend.






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[image loading] (P)mouz.HasuObs < 2-4 > [image loading] (T)Empire.Kas
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[image loading] (P)Dignitas.NaNiwa < 3-4 > [image loading] (T)mouz.ThorZaIN
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Post-game Interview


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Q: Congratulations on taking third place and getting a seed to the next TSL. How do you feel?

I am very glad, it is the best online tournament in Europe and to come out in 3rd place is a good result.

Q: The terran changes did not affect your MMM style of TvP play that much, while Protoss had their early attack options weakened. Did you feel any different going into this match after the patch?

I prepared some new timings, but after the patch there was not enough time to fully try them out. That is why i decided to play the reliable and tested style, going for macro games. I already have some ideas for post-patch, but I did not want to take the chance of using them in such an important game.

Q: In game one you focused more on upgrades than usual, eventually having 3/3 vs your opponent's 1/0. Was this a specific adjustment for Tal'Darim, or is this a style you want to play more in general?

After the first push, I had an advantage. I understood my opponent's plan pretty well, so I could play more freely. When my drop did well and stalled his upgrades, I was looking for a quick victory, but the map landscape did not leave me with a good position to do so.

Q: After winning three games with your signature MMM style, you finished the series with a banshee build on Metalopolis. Was it your original plan to do a macro strategy for games in a row and surprise your opponent with banshees? Or did you decide to go banshees on the spot, after scouting your opponent and seeing that it was close air positions on metal?

My initial plan was to fast expand, but since he had a quick scout I resorted to some long-term cunning. When an opponent sees that you don't have gas, he will automatically make some conclusions about your build, and will not prepare for banshees. That is why I decided to play some mind games with my opponent, and they succeeded.

Q: Though you've earned your seed to TSL4, you're famous as the king of online money tournaments. Do you plan to compete in TLOpen next season even though you don't need to qualify?

I will do everything I can do remain in the best leagues as long as i can. I will also, as usual, do my best to play in every possible tournament and game..

Q: What do you think of the TSL finalists?

I will cheer for both, they are great players and I hope they will show us good games.

Q: Anything to say to your fans?

I'd also like to shout out to Team Empire and our sponsors Thermaltake eSports and Seagate, and to my fans who support me. Thanks all!




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Q: I know you didn't get to see much of the city because of tournament preparations, but what did you think of NYC? Specifically, how was visiting New York, how was staying with Naniwa?

We spent 1 day at Manhattan for some sightseeing and such. It is a nice city, but as you said I didn’t get to experience very much of it. Queens (where we were staying) was much better than I expected it to be!

I expected Naniwa to be more arrogant than he was. He turned out to be a great guy.

Q: What is the TL office like and what do you think of Hot_Bid and R1CH?

The TL Office was great. We had our own rooms with our own computers, so we could have all the privacy we wanted and practice in peace. Overall it just felt very welcoming and we could feel almost at home. Hot_Bid and R1CH...well...Hot_Bid is the biggest troll alive. And rich is just a nice guy, seems to be really smart as well.

Q: You visited MLG offices too, how was that?

We didn’t spend too much time there. Just gave an interview and talked some with some of the staff. It was really messy though because they were moving their offices. I’m excited about the tournament though.

Q: Quite a few SC II fans came to the TSL after-party. Was it your first time meeting with so many fans at once? How was the experience?

I guess this ties with the StarsWar tournament in China that I played in WC3 in April 2010 for the amount of people approaching me as fans etc. But this was special because these guys were all here for me and Naniwa. It’s a nice feeling.

Q: After playing just MMM style + your thor build in previous rounds, you added tanks and banshees into your TvP for the finals. Were you trying to catch Naniwa off-guard?

Well they were strategies I had been using before the finals but just didn’t get to play them very much in my previous TvPs in the TSL. I think that tanks are OK against Protoss until they get charge. When they have charge they become useless in my opinion.

Q: On a related note, if the Thor build hadn't been nerfed through the patch, would you have used it? For more than one game?

I don’t know. Since it was nerfed, I didn’t really take it into consideration when I was deciding on what openings to play on the different maps. But I guess that we would have seen it at least once.

Q: After taking two wins in macro games, Naniwa went for a few all-in builds. Were you surprised with his change in strategy? Do you think it would have been tougher if he had just tried to play for long templar stage each time?

Well he won with one of those all-ins and lost with the other 1 base all-in. Then on the 6th map he did some 2 base all-in which didn’t work. I expected him to throw in some all-ins but not the types of all-ins he used against me.

Q: In the days up to the game, you had a chance to interact with Naniwa quite a bit. What do you think of Naniwa in general, not just as a player.?

As I already said before, I expected him to be more arrogant than he was. He has quite a reputation of being a bit bad mannered and such, but he turned out to be a nice guy. He LOVES sushi.

And as a player I think that he is the best player outside of Korea right now. I was a bit lucky with my win against him. I think nerves played a big role on his part, especially in the seventh game.

Q: You guys also had a lot of conversations in Swedish. Besides the occasional “colossus,” “marauder” and “imbalance,” we couldn't really figure out what you were saying. What were you guys talking about?

We were just talking about how bad mannered Hot_Bid is for not buying Naniwa more sushi...

Q: You teased hot_bid by saying you would go BattleCruisers on terminus, but lost to a four-gate blink rush before you could try. Were you really going to try it? Or were you just counter-trolling the troll-king?

Haha. It’s impossible to out-troll Hot_Bid. I actually had a plan involving BattleCruisers. The only problem is that I had to reach that part of the game.

Q: When you went 1-3 down, how were you feeling? What did you do to get back into the series?

I had basically given up after the 4th game, thinking there was no way for me to get back. I still stuck with my plan and now I’m happy that I did.

Q: Did you celebrate again after you returned to Sweden? Sure you had an American celebration right after, but surely there's some things you can only do at home?

Well I’ve been pretty damn jet lagged and very tired so I didn’t do much yet. But I celebrated some with my family so far.

Q: You're on break from your studies until this summer. What are your plans after that? Will you try to be a part-time student and part-time progamer, or will you delay your studies to focus on progaming?

We’ll see. I applied for a bunch of universities and depending on which I get accepted to and how good I am at SC2 at the time I will choose whether to go to school or delay it further.

Q: We saw that you would often go on the TL forums to see what people were saying about you. Did you go back and watch the TSL3 games to see what Day9 and Chill were saying?

No I didn’t really watch the VoDs. I mostly only watch stuff like that in real time but now since we were playing I couldn’t.

Q: You've had a few days to be famous. How's that working out so far?

Haha. I was pretty famous in WC3 already, but I guess I’m more famous now ^^. I’m getting spammed often on Battle.net now and it’s a bit annoying at times.

Q: You mentioned that you would go to Korea for Code-A if you were given a seed. If you had success and made it to Code-S, how long would you be willing to stay there afterwards?

No, I didn’t say I would go to Code-A if I was be given a seed. I don’t have any plans for GSL yet, but I guess maybe sometime in the future. I would like to become better before I would go to Korea, because if I would go there I would want to have a good chance at doing very well, and I don’t think I’m there yet.




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 mijellin   China. May 20 2011 16:14. Posts 738
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Poor naniwa

Thanks for the interviews
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 Wargizmo   Australia. May 20 2011 16:15. Posts 1235
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I was wondering when this thread would show up lol at the "impossible to out troll hot-bid." comment
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 Boundz(DarKo)   Sweden. May 20 2011 16:17. Posts 4178
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Thanks for pulling this one through just when the weekend hit Cheers!
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 The KY   United Kingdom. May 20 2011 16:20. Posts 6235
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He has quite a reputation of being a bit bad mannered and such, but he turned out to be a nice guy. He LOVES sushi.


Intriguing.
 
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  Dhalphir   Australia. May 20 2011 16:21. Posts 1305Profile Blog # 
couple of the battle report spoilers seem broken

games 5 and 6 just send you to top of page rather than opening the spoiler
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 aNDRoM   United States. May 20 2011 16:24. Posts 636
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jävla sushi!

very nice interviews!

just curious, while i'm sure many of the losers would turn down being interviewed, do you ask if they would, and, if they say yes, would you post the interviews? i don't think i've seen many loser interviews in general, and none in tsl3.
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 Laneir   United States. May 20 2011 16:25. Posts 1098
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Good interview T.T naniwa congrats to KAs
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  heyoka       Administrator       May 20 2011 16:26.Profile Blog # 

On May 20 2011 16:21 Dhalphir wrote:
couple of the battle report spoilers seem broken

games 5 and 6 just send you to top of page rather than opening the spoiler


Interestingly an apostrophe in a spoiler name does this on a post, but not in a PM. I learned that today. Its fixed now.
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 Kreb   May 20 2011 16:27. Posts 2061
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When an opponent sees that you don't have gas, he will automatically make some conclusions about your build, and will not prepare for banshees. That is why I decided to play some mind games with my opponent, and they succeeded.

So thats why he had the funky gas timing. Really smart play though.
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 Rinrun   Canada. May 20 2011 16:32. Posts 3486
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Thanks for the write-ups. T-zain, at the end of the day, wanted it more.
Marauder, Colossus, Imba, and Hot_Bid being bm - great conversation starters. lol.
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 Noyect   Sweden. May 20 2011 16:35. Posts 125
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I really love how humble ThorZain is even after winning such a big and prestigeous tournament

Thank you both for the great games and thank you TL for the interviews and the TSL!
 
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 Spidinko   Slovakia. May 20 2011 16:36. Posts 1125
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GJ Thorzain. Wanted Naniwa to win but 3-4 is fine as well
 
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 Bobster   Germany. May 20 2011 16:49. Posts 3066
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Hot Bid's trolling made quite an impression on Thorzain. :lol
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 Lordlake   Sweden. May 20 2011 17:03. Posts 9
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Great summaires!

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  Longshank   May 20 2011 17:28. Posts 1311Profile # 

On May 20 2011 16:11 heyoka wrote:

No, I didn’t say I would go to Code-A if I was be given a seed. I don’t have any plans for GSL yet, but I guess maybe sometime in the future. I would like to become better before I would go to Korea, because if I would go there I would want to have a good chance at doing very well, and I don’t think I’m there yet.



This is pretty weird, why did he participate in Rakaka's "Road to Korea" then?

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 Zhazulo   Sweden. May 20 2011 17:41. Posts 214
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On May 20 2011 17:28 Longshank wrote:

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This is pretty weird, why did he participate in Rakaka's "Road to Korea" then?





For the lulz

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 Zalos   Sweden. May 20 2011 17:52. Posts 12
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Swedes fighting! Tobad Nani lost, wesome games tho
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 eviltomahawk   United States. May 20 2011 18:01. Posts 8879
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Damn, more confirmation that Hot_Bid is a troll master, and that R1CH apparently is pretty smart.

Thorzain seems like such a nice guy to be around. He seems quite modest and humble, which stands in sharp comparison to Naniwa's confidence.

Anyways, many thanks for the write-up and interview.
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 TheFinalWord   Australia. May 20 2011 18:02. Posts 784
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In game 1 Thorzain vs Naniwa spoiler the same picture is used twice, don't know if that's intentional. Great writeup enjoyed reading it.
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