If you seriously think a true musician should not splurge on a tube amp, you are an idiot sorry. Solid state and tube are night and day.
What IS stupid is people splurging on 100w tube amps, no offense. When will you EVER crank dat? An arena? I played in a band and never turned the volume on my 15w tube amp more than halfway (just the amount of dirt I like). And venues have mics.
On May 28 2011 00:53 rawbertson wrote: Gibsons are soooooooooooooo expensive man... I don't know... my friend dropped like fucking 3 grand on a SG haha. He has the robot one too (self tuning), he doesn't even play guitar that much.
its not bad but I kinda like my fenders... they are cheap but sound awesome
there are $3000 fenders dude...
mexican fenders are comparable to higher end epiphones in quality. american fenders cost around the same as american gibsons.
robot is silly though, i got one of these no more plucking strings one at a time to tune! honestly i trust a machine more than people's ears. too many "by ear" tunings have sounded off to me, leave it to the machines
G&L's are also sweet...leo fender's company after he left fender. probably my next pedal. yeah yeah might be gearlust but it has a unique fuzz tone..and tone is part of writing music. imagine the strokes with metallica type tone, or metallica with strokes type tone. shit, pure shit
On May 28 2011 03:04 sleigh bells wrote: If you seriously think a true musician should not splurge on a tube amp, you are an idiot sorry. Solid state and tube are night and day.
What IS stupid is people splurging on 100w tube amps, no offense. When will you EVER crank dat? An arena? I played in a band and never turned the volume on my 15w tube amp more than halfway (just the amount of dirt I like). And venues have mics.
Don't buy Fender amps... they are Tube amps but they have too mcuh electronics in them. I like mine, don't get me wrong, but I wish I would have bought something else like an Orange. VOX are tight too, I want to get something liek 2'x2', I might trade in my big 30w amp, I honestly never even use it its just way too loud even at like 3 volume.
On May 28 2011 00:53 rawbertson wrote: Gibsons are soooooooooooooo expensive man... I don't know... my friend dropped like fucking 3 grand on a SG haha. He has the robot one too (self tuning), he doesn't even play guitar that much.
its not bad but I kinda like my fenders... they are cheap but sound awesome
there are $3000 fenders dude...
mexican fenders are comparable to higher end epiphones in quality. american fenders cost around the same as american gibsons.
robot is silly though, i got one of these no more plucking strings one at a time to tune! honestly i trust a machine more than people's ears. too many "by ear" tunings have sounded off to me, leave it to the machines
G&L's are also sweet...leo fender's company after he left fender. probably my next pedal. yeah yeah might be gearlust but it has a unique fuzz tone..and tone is part of writing music. imagine the strokes with metallica type tone, or metallica with strokes type tone. shit, pure shit
I never understood how those polyphonic tuners worked... NOW I get it!!! I might get one.
That pedal looks so gnarly! Boutique pedals are the shit. I just have a couple KORGs. I got a ds-1 distortion and a Flanger.
Yeah my American Telecaster was around 700$... That's a pretty good deal for american made. It's brand new too. I have 2 Chinese acoustics from fender and the one is so-so and the bass I just got so I can't really say the quality of that. My mexican p-bass is top notch I wouldn't trade that for anything.
I know you can get more expensive Fenders but I would say as a rule of thumn Gibsons are a lot more expensive. They kind of have more to them though they just seem heavier and have more of a hand-made aspect to them.
sleigh bells United States. May 28 2011 03:18. Posts 358
On May 28 2011 03:04 sleigh bells wrote: If you seriously think a true musician should not splurge on a tube amp, you are an idiot sorry. Solid state and tube are night and day.
What IS stupid is people splurging on 100w tube amps, no offense. When will you EVER crank dat? An arena? I played in a band and never turned the volume on my 15w tube amp more than halfway (just the amount of dirt I like). And venues have mics.
Don't buy Fender amps... they are Tube amps but they have too mcuh electronics in them. I like mine, don't get me wrong, but I wish I would have bought something else like an Orange. VOX are tight too, I want to get something liek 2'x2', I might trade in my big 30w amp, I honestly never even use it its just way too loud even at like 3 volume.
vox night train is sweet
imo the point of fenders are to play clean at loud volumes, or slightly dirty. my 15w orange cannot play squeaky clean at anything close to a sufficient volume for a small club.
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sleigh bells United States. May 28 2011 03:24. Posts 358
On May 28 2011 03:17 rawbertson wrote: I never understood how those polyphonic tuners worked... NOW I get it!!! I might get one.
That pedal looks so gnarly! Boutique pedals are the shit. I just have a couple KORGs. I got a ds-1 distortion and a Flanger.
Yeah my American Telecaster was around 700$... That's a pretty good deal for american made. It's brand new too. I have 2 Chinese acoustics from fender and the one is so-so and the bass I just got so I can't really say the quality of that. My mexican p-bass is top notch I wouldn't trade that for anything.
I know you can get more expensive Fenders but I would say as a rule of thumn Gibsons are a lot more expensive. They kind of have more to them though they just seem heavier and have more of a hand-made aspect to them.
imo the custom fenders are the right analogy to the custom gibsons, and they are both obscenely priced. i think custom fenders might be somewhat hand-made as well, and i think the wood is aged and not new. a vanilla american strat is around the same price as a vanilla usa-made gibson i think.
i mostly record stuff at home though and for that i use computer software. all the effects you could ever want, though none sound as "organic" as the real thing
Ahhh see I have never really looked at getting a custom fender. At our store here, they have some Fenders and Les Pauls from 1970 that are worth liek 3000$.
I did not realize that the orange amps did not produce clean tones easily. My Fender produces really amazing clean tones I think I kind of took that for granted. I have never got to play on an Orange AMP I just saw a band Hollerado had one live recently and I had been looking into them for a few years now.
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sleigh bells United States. May 28 2011 03:42. Posts 358
well oranges are dirtier than fenders, fender is the gold standard for clean tones imo. but another thing is the wattage. mine is 7/15w so it can make dirty tones at reasonable volumes, a plus for anyone gigging in bars. a 15 w fender blues junior may be comparable, though i would venture that it would be slightly cleaner. fender's speciality is amps 60+ w, which can only generate cleanish tones at reasonable volumes. for dirt, you need a pedal, but you always lose something in the process (none of the popular pedals have tubes after all). that is the main point of higher wattage, for total volume a 100 watt amp is only twice as loud as a 10 watt amp! my 4 watt amp dimed is loud as hell!
main point: it depends on the model (general rule of thumb, something like mesa boogies will be super dirty, oranges can be pretty dirty, vox are less dirty, fenders can be pretty clean), wattage (higher wattage's only practicality is clean tones at higher volumes, or if you really hate mic-ing your amp, and to break your back), and your guitar of course. the orange is kinda dark sounding and meshes well with my bright ass tele. sounds totally different with a les paul (which is already dark to begin with)...too muddy. the orange's clean tone is fine (not great), but i would have to mic it if i ever wanted that tone. and you never want to really depend on the sound guy, they are usually idiots.
guitar centers carry oranges now, if they have them in canada. they used to not be sold at any major brick-and-mortar store
On May 28 2011 00:53 rawbertson wrote: Gibsons are soooooooooooooo expensive man... I don't know... my friend dropped like fucking 3 grand on a SG haha. He has the robot one too (self tuning), he doesn't even play guitar that much.
its not bad but I kinda like my fenders... they are cheap but sound awesome
there are $3000 fenders dude...
mexican fenders are comparable to higher end epiphones in quality. american fenders cost around the same as american gibsons.
robot is silly though, i got one of these no more plucking strings one at a time to tune! honestly i trust a machine more than people's ears. too many "by ear" tunings have sounded off to me, leave it to the machines
G&L's are also sweet...leo fender's company after he left fender. probably my next pedal. yeah yeah might be gearlust but it has a unique fuzz tone..and tone is part of writing music. imagine the strokes with metallica type tone, or metallica with strokes type tone. shit, pure shit
I never understood how those polyphonic tuners worked... NOW I get it!!! I might get one.
That pedal looks so gnarly! Boutique pedals are the shit. I just have a couple KORGs. I got a ds-1 distortion and a Flanger.
Yeah my American Telecaster was around 700$... That's a pretty good deal for american made. It's brand new too. I have 2 Chinese acoustics from fender and the one is so-so and the bass I just got so I can't really say the quality of that. My mexican p-bass is top notch I wouldn't trade that for anything.
I know you can get more expensive Fenders but I would say as a rule of thumn Gibsons are a lot more expensive. They kind of have more to them though they just seem heavier and have more of a hand-made aspect to them.
Why would you ever wanna waste money on polyphonic tuners. There are loads of situations that you would not want a standart tuning.
Also man, you should trust your ears, or train them if you don't, really.
EnTaroAdun411 Philippines. May 28 2011 11:17. Posts 99
I picked up the guitar thanks to George Harrison. That was 1993. I had a couple of Ovation knockoffs before I got this baby (a cherry red sunburst Yamaha RGX-421D) in 1995:
(Well the Zoom G7.1ut and the Ibanez Weeping Demon I bought in 2006 and 2009, respectively.)
As you can see, I also use: - Planet Waves "Up In Flames" Joe Satriani strap - Ernie Ball Hybrid Slinky (9 to 46) strings on standard tuning - Jim Dunlop Jazz III picks, specifically the Eric Johnson signature
I had a Genesis 25 watt amp back in Manila. But now that I'm here in KL, I play these through earphones.
In 2004, I had a Zoom 606, but years before that, I got to experience the Zoom 1010 and the 707-II. In high school, I also used a Boss Metal Zone. I love the raw sound of the stompboxes, but multi-effects was the economical and convenient way to go for me. In 2007, I also had a Behringer Hell Babe wah, but it was horrible.
I play lots of rock, metal and prog.
My plan is to get new Dimarzio Crunch Lab and Liquifire pick ups for this guitar, and an Ibanez RG1527 7-string guitar and another Ibanez 6-string, like the RG471AH, that I can down-tune.
I was about to change my strings when I suddenly remembered reading this thread yesterday. So i snapped a pic of my stuff and posted here.
On May 28 2011 00:53 rawbertson wrote: Gibsons are soooooooooooooo expensive man... I don't know... my friend dropped like fucking 3 grand on a SG haha. He has the robot one too (self tuning), he doesn't even play guitar that much.
its not bad but I kinda like my fenders... they are cheap but sound awesome
there are $3000 fenders dude...
mexican fenders are comparable to higher end epiphones in quality. american fenders cost around the same as american gibsons.
robot is silly though, i got one of these no more plucking strings one at a time to tune! honestly i trust a machine more than people's ears. too many "by ear" tunings have sounded off to me, leave it to the machines
G&L's are also sweet...leo fender's company after he left fender. probably my next pedal. yeah yeah might be gearlust but it has a unique fuzz tone..and tone is part of writing music. imagine the strokes with metallica type tone, or metallica with strokes type tone. shit, pure shit
just so everyone knows, Matt Bellamy from Muse uses that zvex fuzz factory. Hes got it built-in to most of his guitars..and ive wanted it for ages
hotbreakfest United States. May 28 2011 11:27. Posts 145
On May 28 2011 00:53 rawbertson wrote: Gibsons are soooooooooooooo expensive man... I don't know... my friend dropped like fucking 3 grand on a SG haha. He has the robot one too (self tuning), he doesn't even play guitar that much.
its not bad but I kinda like my fenders... they are cheap but sound awesome
there are $3000 fenders dude...
mexican fenders are comparable to higher end epiphones in quality. american fenders cost around the same as american gibsons.
robot is silly though, i got one of these no more plucking strings one at a time to tune! honestly i trust a machine more than people's ears. too many "by ear" tunings have sounded off to me, leave it to the machines
G&L's are also sweet...leo fender's company after he left fender. probably my next pedal. yeah yeah might be gearlust but it has a unique fuzz tone..and tone is part of writing music. imagine the strokes with metallica type tone, or metallica with strokes type tone. shit, pure shit
I never understood how those polyphonic tuners worked... NOW I get it!!! I might get one.
That pedal looks so gnarly! Boutique pedals are the shit. I just have a couple KORGs. I got a ds-1 distortion and a Flanger.
Yeah my American Telecaster was around 700$... That's a pretty good deal for american made. It's brand new too. I have 2 Chinese acoustics from fender and the one is so-so and the bass I just got so I can't really say the quality of that. My mexican p-bass is top notch I wouldn't trade that for anything.
I know you can get more expensive Fenders but I would say as a rule of thumn Gibsons are a lot more expensive. They kind of have more to them though they just seem heavier and have more of a hand-made aspect to them.
You got an AMERICAN TELECASTER for $700??? Where did you steal *cough cough*... I mean BUY it from?
sleigh bells United States. May 28 2011 13:53. Posts 358
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