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First of all tnkted why the hell have you voted for Coagulation? This needs explaining. Second I am intrigued by Palmar. I have no idea what to think about a bro but I'll keep a record of who he speaks to. Attempted fistpumps that have been returned: GMarshal Node tnkted Attempted fistpumps that have been ignored: Amber[Light] redFF BC, I like the idea of a Zodiac list but I am very surprised to see myself on it. The experience of everyone else on that list is more then ten times mine. I don't mind being on there but I'm confused as to why I am The others are all good choices. Scumhunting time! I find the following people extremely suspicious: kitaman27 tnkted Torte de Lini Tackster Kita is following exactly the same pattern as XXXIX. He has not said anything at all except tell people to shut up and posting vague accusations. In games in which he has been town he contributes much more actively. tnkted is posting extremely wierdly and I would very much like an explanation for the Coag vote. Torte is reknowned for being a heavy poster and has only 3 or 4 so far. Sure he is only in his first game, but other newbies like VisceraEyes, hiro protagonist and Karshe have been up and about providing opinions and trying to help. Tackster has already been done by Meapak and I am interested in him for the same reasons. At this stage I am voting for kitaman27. He is capable of much much more than he has been contributing and is following the same pattern as last game. | ||
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KITAMAN27 He has been stomping on anyone who tries to get discussion going, starting with BC. On May 31 2011 05:33 kitaman27 wrote: Show nested quote + On May 31 2011 05:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Gm isn't so bad as to instant rush to defend his mafia pal this fast into a game. At least, I would hope not. But BC is bad enough to instant rush to defend his mafia pal GM. What is the point of this exactly? You never brought this up again. This is just spreading doubt for the sake of it. On May 31 2011 08:08 kitaman27 wrote: Show nested quote + On May 31 2011 07:36 kitaman27 wrote: This thread is already way too spammy. We don't need 5 pages discussing Amber's dog noises. We don't need any further discussion of this "zodiac list" which allows people to post without contributing. k thx. Next person that posts a list gets lynched. Why? Posting lists gives a discussion point. It is much much more valuable than talking about Amber's caninity. Don't you want information to be out there? It's got everyone talking about alignments instead of roles. Do you have a problem with BC or something? The list is a starting point before scumhunting. It's much better than your starting point of a random vote. On May 31 2011 10:22 kitaman27 wrote: meh mostly a random vote to get things started. Spammy, apologetic, and posting fluff. He tells town we should be looking elsewhere, without providing suspicions of his own. On an unrelated note, town should keep in mind that mafia has additional information than they normally do in this set-up since they know their own roles and the roles they have created. So... you're voting without a reason. And no shit Mafia has extra information. Thank you Captain Obvious. Kita has done nothing to help town. He is actively avoiding discussion and is jumping on someone who was active at the start of the game. He is Mafia and should be lynched. | ||
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tnkted tnkted has a vastly different activity level from before the Day 1 post. He has 12 posts before the game begins for real and only 9 after. None of them really provide any input at all. On May 31 2011 07:22 tnkted wrote: I don't think amber can #fistpound, palmer... he can't write anything but dogtalk remember? For now, lets all stop #fistpounding. We don't know what palmer's role is, and if it has something to do with the poundage he's been getting, lets keep it as low as we can get it. Now, since we have a bunch of noobies in the game, I'll say something I always say to noobies: Be suspicious of people that appeal to their reputation. By this I mean that if you got bumatlarge telling you to drop your line of inquiry because he's the fucking batman, you should be more suspicious, not less. Not that I expect that to happen this game, but its always good to mention. What does this even mean? You don't expect it to happen but it needs mentioning? This is just clutter. On May 31 2011 07:59 tnkted wrote: Show nested quote + On May 31 2011 07:22 tnkted wrote: I don't think amber can #fistpound, palmer... he can't write anything but dogtalk remember? For now, lets all stop #fistpounding. We don't know what palmer's role is, and if it has something to do with the poundage he's been getting, lets keep it as low as we can get it. Show nested quote + On May 31 2011 07:22 tnkted wrote: I don't think amber can #fistpound, palmer... he can't write anything but dogtalk remember? <3 Stop fistpounding, yet fistpound lol. On May 31 2011 08:29 tnkted wrote: This varp wagon is a bad lynch. Look, he came up with a plan... it might be a stupid plan but thats seriously more effort than anyone else has put forward. This includes you buddy. On May 31 2011 09:06 tnkted wrote: Show nested quote + On May 31 2011 08:56 bumatlarge wrote: On May 31 2011 08:29 tnkted wrote: This varp wagon is a bad lynch. Look, he came up with a plan... it might be a stupid plan but thats seriously more effort than anyone else has put forward. Deflecting without giving an alternative. Check! Lol, ok, fair enough. I think we need to set up a system of balances in this game. The chances of the mafia being unlucky enough to have given each others roles is very slim. Therefore I propose this: If somebody claims in the thread, whoever gave that role needs to look at the claim carefully. If it lies or is an entirely different role, announce you gave that person the role in the thread. This way we can catch fakeclaims. However, this won't be very effective later in the game because the people who gave the roles will be dead, and the possibility of fakeclaiming will be much less likely. For example, I'm much more inclined to trust redff1's roleclaim if nobody claims today... since everybody will read it and the real person who gave Red's role will undoubtedly counterclaim. tldr; if your person claims a fake role in thread, say so. otherwise stfu and let them be. Ok so let me get this straight. Noone should question a roleclaim for any reason unless they are the person who gave them that role. Well that's gonna work great when everyone is dead, you said it yourself yet still advocate it. Not only that, role picking is specifically disallowed today so at least until tomorrow this idea is pointless. Deconduo has advised against roleclaiming and unless it is crucial to do so in performance of your role it shouldn't be done. On May 31 2011 10:40 tnkted wrote: deskscaress, don't bother arguing with jackal, its pointless. hes gonna do what he wants regardless of what anyone else says. And yes, this is extremely spammy for one of our games. generally we're a bit calmer. also, LOL at people pointing fingers at me. This is going to be a very different game... my role gives me the opportunity to try a new style of play. woo! #vote coagulation, in solidarity. This needs an explanation. Now. On May 31 2011 10:43 tnkted wrote: Now, a post with actual content: I don't think any of the people voting for varp right now, (kita, bum, palmar) are scummy. I think this is pretty usual behavior for kita and bum, and palmar seems to have been caught up in the wagon. This actual content post.... doesn't give any reasons for what they are doing. Are you accusing Palmar here or not? Why is his vote different to theirs? On May 31 2011 11:00 tnkted wrote: So far, we have the following data: 1. Amber is some sort of dog with a tracker/watcher role. He should be protected/bussed out of harms way tonight. 2. redff1 has a mason role. Also worth protecting. 3. Palmar has some sort of bro role. I think I have an idea what thats about, but I'ma stay mum until we know more. 4. I have some reason for not being afraid of getting killed. Hmm....... As far as that goes, I think our best bet for a lynch today is................ Show nested quote + On May 31 2011 05:54 sandroba wrote: Alright every one seems to dislike the first part of my plan, but no one has commented on policy so far. The first part which we claim what player got our role is just to make policy easier. Either way I say we policy lynch ANYONE who lies about their role. Town has very little reason to lie about their role while mafia has a lot of reasons. What are you guys' opinions about this? This is precicely the same plan I posted. The following people acted in a scummy way in response to it: Show nested quote + On May 31 2011 09:37 hiro protagonist wrote: anyone who is not asking Amber a detect question gets my vote immediately! any other talk is just filler and does not help, SO DON'T DO IT. We have two suspects in the form of Vamp and tnkted. talk about that! @kitaman: why do you suspect Vamp? Show nested quote + On May 31 2011 10:47 Mig wrote: I am gonna toss my vote onto tnkted for now. He has been floating through the thread without contributing much, which is true for a lot of people right now, but then as soon as he is criticized by bum he throws out a 5 paragraph plan which isn't even really a plan so much as it's just common sense. Maybe it is just unfortunate timing for him but it looks a lot like someone over compensating and attempting to appear town after being pressured. more coming after the break, i have to go move furniture. Sorry your plan for lynch is...........??????? How is anyone supposed to be able to tell who has lied about their role on the first day? There have been no night actions of any kind yet. You are basically just accusing people who accused you first. On May 31 2011 10:46 tnkted wrote: Show nested quote + On May 31 2011 10:43 chaos13 wrote: tnkted, what reason do you have for your vote on Coagulation? How about the fact that he isn't playing? Show nested quote + On May 31 2011 10:43 bumatlarge wrote: tnkted is a much better candidate I do believe so yes quite. *yawn* How about you actually defend yourself? How about you explain why you vote Coag? Mate you have had wierd exchanges with Palmar so many times it's ridiculous. I'm willing to bet one of you two is Mafia and I'd run with you. Something extremely fishy is going on with you and Bumatlarge as well. You aren't really doing anything to help and are my secondary candidate. | ||
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Torte de Lini Torte that last post was pure rubbish, you're number three. You are just regurgitating obvious things. You've already been given an explanation of what to post and instead all you talk about is Amber. This is complete misdirection. You claim that don't know us and can't offer opinions. It is very easy to look back at our posting history and learn about us. Read old games. You spend enough time on here to do that. It is obviously possible that there is third party, read the OP again. At this stage it is impossible to tell what the deal is with Amber so how about contributing other than bringing up the dog posts. I don't see a vote, I don't see an idea as to who we should lynch today, I don't see any comments on anything except "I'm a noob don't look at me." | ||
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On June 01 2011 01:25 Node wrote: ##Vote sandroba Also, it sounds silly, but I'm pretty sure Amber is town at this point. He's said a lot with very little and is clearly trying to help us out. Ok, so you're voting because Amber's trying really hard. Sandroba is a terrible lynch. The main reason seems to be his original plan. It was against the rules but when he posted his idea it was before deconduo clarified the rules. It might not be the best plan but he's obviously trying to help. He is accused of turning quiet. Within only 2 pages of the announcement of his plan the following people told him his idea was terrible: chaos13 Eternalmisfit Rean Varpulis Palmar Mr Wiggles BloodyC0bbler GMarshal stefftastiq redFF Mataza That is a lot of negativity to swallow, why is everyone surprised that he has gone quiet? I'd pipe down too if I was told by half the town to stfu. Varpulis, who tried to alter the plan is then jumped on next. He decides to "withdraw" and is immediately jumped on by kita and Palmar. Their plans might not be good ones but it doesn't make them Mafia. They are just trying to help, if poorly. Redtooth in XXXIX was an example of that. Their contributions are much larger than several players so far, even if they have gone quiet recently. | ||
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On May 31 2011 19:59 kitaman27 wrote: Show nested quote + On May 31 2011 15:50 DropBear wrote: KITAMAN27 He has been stomping on anyone who tries to get discussion going, starting with BC. On May 31 2011 05:33 kitaman27 wrote: On May 31 2011 05:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Gm isn't so bad as to instant rush to defend his mafia pal this fast into a game. At least, I would hope not. But BC is bad enough to instant rush to defend his mafia pal GM. What is the point of this exactly? You never brought this up again. This is just spreading doubt for the sake of it. Err nope, pretty sure that is just an excuse to call BC bad :p Show nested quote + On May 31 2011 15:50 DropBear wrote: On May 31 2011 08:08 kitaman27 wrote: On May 31 2011 07:36 kitaman27 wrote: This thread is already way too spammy. We don't need 5 pages discussing Amber's dog noises. We don't need any further discussion of this "zodiac list" which allows people to post without contributing. k thx. Next person that posts a list gets lynched. Why? Posting lists gives a discussion point. It is much much more valuable than talking about Amber's caninity. Don't you want information to be out there? It's got everyone talking about alignments instead of roles. Do you have a problem with BC or something? The list is a starting point before scumhunting. It's much better than your starting point of a random vote. Posting lists do not give a discussion point. I've already explained this and so have a bunch of others. People are just listing names of those who have played a bunch of games without posting content. Not only does it spam the thread, but it also gives scum the ability to blend in. Also, how on earth could anyone ever have a problem with the lovable BC? At least the random votes get a reaction like varp saying he is going to suddenly "be quiet" for the rest of the day. Show nested quote + On May 31 2011 15:50 DropBear wrote: On May 31 2011 10:22 kitaman27 wrote: On May 31 2011 09:37 hiro protagonist wrote: @kitaman: why do you suspect Vamp? meh mostly a random vote to get things started. Spammy, apologetic, and posting fluff. He tells town we should be looking elsewhere, without providing suspicions of his own. On an unrelated note, town should keep in mind that mafia has additional information than they normally do in this set-up since they know their own roles and the roles they have created. So... you're voting without a reason. And no shit Mafia has extra information. Thank you Captain Obvious. Kita has done nothing to help town. He is actively avoiding discussion and is jumping on someone who was active at the start of the game. He is Mafia and should be lynched. Heh sorry, you're a bit late on this one. You didn't have a problem with random voting in the previous game. Change of motives? Show nested quote + On May 31 2011 17:21 Mataza wrote: Barring an extraordinary defense, Kitaman27 is guilty in my eyes. You too? Bravo. This thread is already way too spammy. Oh wait, I just post BC jokes cos it's helpful. Of course lists are important, if people explain why those there are on there. On May 31 2011 08:08 kitaman27 wrote: Show nested quote + On May 31 2011 07:36 kitaman27 wrote: This thread is already way too spammy. We don't need 5 pages discussing Amber's dog noises. We don't need any further discussion of this "zodiac list" which allows people to post without contributing. k thx. Next person that posts a list gets lynched. This is the only explanation of why lists are a bad idea that you've given. If you direct me to the bunch of others and their arguments against it then I'll reconsider. Varp's "going quiet" still offers much more activity in both post count and ideas than you've been offering. A bit late on what? My "random voting" was always preceded by lengthy analysis and explanation of my reasoning. I did it again here and you haven't said anything to make me change my mind. You want to convince me? Say something of worth. Show me a more convincing target. "Lol scum" isn't gonna cut it for me when you are lurking just the same as last time. I'm not gonna get my arse bitten again. | ||
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Can people PLEASE stop talking about sandroba's plan its completely irrelevant now. Tackster is a much better lynch than him. | ||
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On June 01 2011 03:14 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On June 01 2011 01:52 DropBear wrote: Varpulis, who tried to alter the plan is then jumped on next. He decides to "withdraw" and is immediately jumped on by kita and Palmar. Their plans might not be good ones but it doesn't make them Mafia. They are just trying to help, if poorly. Redtooth in XXXIX was an example of that. Their contributions are much larger than several players so far, even if they have gone quiet recently. Yo bro, I just gotta clarify this shit. I aint voting on Varpulis based on his plan, everyone can make a bad plan man. If you actually bothered to read my analysis, I'm voting for him on blatant personality change from his last game. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227186¤tpage=23#455 get yo facts strait bro, I only mention the plan as supplemental to my analysis, the main reason that bitch gonna get hanged is he's acting like a pussy. Let's see it done fellas #Fistpound DropBear First of all man, sorry but I'm not going to return your offer. I am worried about what it would do. Look at the rest of my post. It wasn't just Sandroba who was jumped on for offering a bad plan, Varpulis was as well. I'm liking the effort that you are putting in but I'm not convinced. Varpulis has been still very active and doing his best. He got timid briefly after being told he was playing poorly, so what? He's back to his normal self again now. I would put a lot of money on both Sandroba and Varpulis being town. Wiggles, what? I have to say that I strongly disagree. You are worrying me, you just seem to be jumping on the bandwagon. On June 01 2011 10:38 sinani206 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 01 2011 07:38 GMarshal wrote: Instead answer these questions. 4.) Of all the players with more than ten posts in the game at the moment, which seem the scummiest? 4) 10. kitaman27 acting like he was in XXXIX, where he was Mafia 12. Tackster useless theorycrafting 14. tnkted like i said above, useless 25. Torte de Lini so many posts elsewhere on TL. a purposeful lurker Nice to know that somebody agrees. I still think kita is dodgy as hell, if one of these others comes up as a candidate I will gladly switch to them. | ||
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Returned offer by Palmar GMarshal Node tnkted Kurumi sandroba Offered it to Palmar without being asked VisceraEyes Mataza Ignored invitation from Palmar Amber[Light] redFF Meapak_Zipph Eternalmisfit DropBear | ||
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June 01 2011 20:09 GMT
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Before I do that, can I please get an explanation from someone as to why I'm on the Zodiac lists? I thought the idea was to have good players or people who will be obvious targets. I've played only 2 games and wasn't exactly successful. | ||
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June 01 2011 20:51 GMT
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Tackster has been posting very strangely. His roleclaim post is nice enough but half of it is thanking deconduo. It's sure nice of decon to make the game for us but is it relevant right now? I'm really confused here man. Your mafia and town read list is interesting, but you haven't explained why anyone is on there. tnkted is still a high priority for me. Still no contribution, just vague threats. The fact that BC is near the top is laughable. He's tried the hardest of everyone to keep things focused. VisceraEye's vote on him is just because he finds BC aggressive and for trashing his survey. Noone has shown me anything that makes him look dodgy so far at all. VisceraEyes is the only one I hadn't looked at yet and he has a few interesting posts. VISCERAEYES He told Palmar that there is no way he would accept a fistpound then turns around and offers one without being asked. He calls out sinani206 as lurking and votes for him to bring him out. Attempts to make a discussion point with a survey which was trashed by BC. Viscera then votes BC basically because he was mean and dominating. Claims some sort of veteran role. Objects to being on the Zodiac list. Threatens BC. On May 31 2011 09:30 VisceraEyes wrote: @Palmar Given the nature of the game, I'm wary of giving you any kind of pounding of fists until I understand your role better, no offense....so don't ask. This directly contrasts with these: On May 31 2011 15:41 VisceraEyes wrote: I might loathe myself in the morning, but with company like GM, Node and tnkted so far... #fistpound Palmar On May 31 2011 15:44 VisceraEyes wrote: ebwodp: Consider that my way of saying gg for SNMMII .....Not sure what's going on here? Did you get bored or something? On May 31 2011 10:28 VisceraEyes wrote: Show nested quote + On May 31 2011 10:22 kitaman27 wrote: On May 31 2011 09:37 hiro protagonist wrote: @kitaman: why do you suspect Vamp? meh mostly a random vote to get things started. Spammy, apologetic, and posting fluff. He tells town we should be looking elsewhere, without providing suspicions of his own. On an unrelated note, town should keep in mind that mafia has additional information than they normally do in this set-up since they know their own roles and the roles they have created. I find this point worth repeating and bolding for emphasis. Anyone who appears to be pushing someone very hard or without sufficient reason at this point should be watched very carefully. Mafia know the exact roles of at least 10 players (I don't know the exact count, but I assume it's at least 5mafia plus the 5 they created), while everyone else only knows their own and the one they created. This is a HUGE advantage that we should try and counter by taking peoples official suspicions VERY seriously. This is the most scummy post he has. It's just stating bleedingly obvious things like people starting bandwagons should be looked at and scum has more information. On June 01 2011 14:12 VisceraEyes wrote: @Cthsazsa & others concerned Right now, BloodyC0bbler is the most suspicious to me. His posts make me feel like he's speaking for the whole town, all the time. Almost as if discussions that aren't relevant to him...are scummy...period. And he's got followers, which is scary by itself. This smacks to me of a noobie getting pissed off at being told he's shite by a vet. I did this to orgolove and redtooth last game as well. He reminds me of myself. On June 01 2011 04:41 VisceraEyes wrote: FoS Sinani Sinani hasn't posted...like, ANYTHING. I'm literally picking up NO scum-reads at this point, and the analysis everyone else is posting is based on meta I'm not familiar with...so I'm going to pick on an inactive until something big happens. ##Vote sinani206 This was helpful, sinani, a non-contributing Mafia last game, came out of the woodwork only 20 minutes later. Town points for me. On June 01 2011 06:05 VisceraEyes wrote: @Karshe I found my play-style to be too erratic last game man. Yeah, I hit on Palmar before he convinced me otherwise, but only because I was building cases from nothing. I refuse to make the same mistake. Any analysis I post in this game will be well-thought out and as free of WIFOM as I can make it. Let's take last games' example. I was tunneling Palmar HARD before his brilliant play. But before the brilliant play, who believed me? And after? What support did I have from ANYONE last game? It was fully because of the way I was analyzing last game. I'm taking a different approach this game. I'm hoping I can convince more people this game. This post is contradictory to what he says later. He accuses BC of being scum just because BC attacked him. I think it's just out of ego. On June 01 2011 12:39 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay, I've got a survey. This got done to death as a bad idea and I agree. It isn't scummy for trying though. On June 01 2011 13:42 VisceraEyes wrote: 7) Assuming you had the entire town's ear and you know everyone would believe you, what do you want to say FIRST? It's going to take two shots to kill me. Vet roleclaim. On June 01 2011 14:43 VisceraEyes wrote: @BloodyC0bbler Tell me this list-guy. Why do you think I'm supposedly on the dog's unverified list? I have no idea, as I'm obviously inexperienced and, as you say, terrible...but I suspect it's because he either knows my role or my alignment. This is a very legit question. Why is Viscera on the list? It was supposed to be for experienced/high priority targets. On June 01 2011 15:24 VisceraEyes wrote: But whatever. Teach me how awful I am, if you think you can. And if you're alive that long. I wonder if this is a vig claim of some kind? Or that he's just trying to get BC lynched. He has some strange posts so far but I do not think Viscera is scum at this stage, he has been trying to help but isn't doing a good job. The vote on BC is basically just because he's angry and I hope he changes it. He's questioning why he is on the zodiac list for reasons that I think are legitimate cos they are the same reasons why I'm puzzled to be on there. After looking at these candidates I am choosing to vote tnkted for doing a whole lot of nothing to help and just making threats. He hasn't cleared up anyone's concerns so far and doesn't seem to care. My second choice would be Tackster. | ||
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I would strongly, strongly recommend NOT medic protecting me tonight. | ||
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Posting thoughts once I've caught up. Voting Wiggles cos of the day post flip. | ||
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June 03 2011 18:25 GMT
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DROPBEAR'S THOUGHTS PART 1 OF 4 Chaos13 is extremely likely to be town and I don't understand the arguments against him There are 4 confirmed (dead) townies on the day 1 vote list, 3 of whom were fairly major targets, and he voted for none of them. His vote isn't scummy at all. He has done a lot of changing his mind, but he's pushed people quite hard. Only once he is satisfied does he leave them alone. He defended Varpulis, who flipped mole. He defended VisceraEyes, prplhz, kitaman27. He also attacked then defended sandroba, Amber and tnkted. The only person he attacked without retracting it was GMarshal, who never really responded to him or did anything to set his mind at ease. Reason for voting GMarshal and follows up with it with this explanatory post. He's been trying to keep people on track consistently. He's been generating discussion. He's been extremely open and unafraid to voice his opinions, all town traits. The only thing I don't get is his reasoning for not wanting to shoot sinani. He doesn't really explain it at all, unless I missed something -_- MAJOR ARGUMENTS FOR KILLING CHAOS13 Palmar says kill him "because he's scum". Palmar's analysis. This is based pretty much entirely on his defence of Varpulis. Chaos defended at least 5 other players who were under pressure, some of whom have flipped town and none of this is taken into account. This is just cherry-picking. redFF's reasoning for voting chaos13 is non-existent. I seriously hope your vote isn't following the same reasoning as Viscera did to BC. Targeting him cos he targeted you. Lastly chaos, I don't understand why you asked for a vigi hit on yourself. If you are town, suggesting to off yourself is a very very bad idea. Have you forgotten XXXIX already? Impervious voting for himself? AO, jaminz and elmizzt not defending themselves? | ||
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June 03 2011 18:59 GMT
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DROPBEAR'S THOUGHTS PART 2 OF 4 Kurumi is lying through his teeth and isn't to be trusted I present Exhibit A, originally presented by Eternalmisfit but his post seems to have been bypassed: On June 03 2011 06:20 Eternalmisfit wrote: Show nested quote + On June 03 2011 06:17 Kurumi wrote: Ok guys so there's couple of things. Bumatlarge chosen my role. That may but may not indicate GM is scum. I told GM everything about my role. Bum crumbs it when he talks about smelling things from far away. I am Tarp Mage and I feel KP from galaxy away. I was roleblocked,thus I couldn't use my role. At one point in the game I said I could confirm Bum being scum using my role. His roleblock claim is FALSE. I've chosen role for Prplhz. Show nested quote + On June 03 2011 06:09 Kurumi wrote: I claim killing Sandroba. Desk was a mafia hit. Varp was Palmar's hit. Prp was Node's hit. Mafia has only 1KP in entire team? Does not compute On June 03 2011 07:21 Kurumi wrote: Show nested quote + On June 03 2011 07:20 kitaman27 wrote: On June 03 2011 07:19 Kurumi wrote: You are the Tarp Mage. You can smell traps a full galaxy away! You will be notified of how much total KP is possible each night. If any night KP is used on you, you can choose to negate it for that night. You will be notified of the source (Mafia KP, Vig, bomb, etc). If that KP source can be used the next night, it automatically targets you. Your alignment is Serial Killer Fine with You,Kita? Thank you, if this doesn't match what whoever assigned Kurumi's role please claim now. Also, what was the result for your kp check last night? Roleblocked. He has claimed that he knows precisely who killed everyone. Yet he only is given the source, not precisely which player did the killing. He claims to have shot sandroba. But he was also roleblocked sooooo..... The other major inconsistency is him claiming roleblock for the KP check, yet at the start of the day gives a detailed list of who he says shot who. | ||
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June 03 2011 19:37 GMT
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DROPBEAR'S THOUGHTS PART 3 OF 4 bumatlarge is also lying and I think he's Mafia. Straight after the flip of BC: On June 02 2011 06:15 bumatlarge wrote: Well I guess I don't really have a choice but to act like a claimed SK day1. That's cool. I have to survive to win anyway, so I'll just ally with town for however long they want to keep me around. I'm bulletproof of course, so you would have to use a lynch on me, or maybe some bomb or BP-penetrating thing. Yes indeed. Whatever is most convenient for you. Just don't dare shoot me tonight. On June 02 2011 06:50 bumatlarge wrote: Show nested quote + On June 02 2011 06:23 Varpulis wrote: I've got some thoughts about tonight.
I have no clue what medics should be doing, and giving direct instructions will be beneficial to scum, so I'll let those with protective roles make their own judgements. It's good that BC is willing to work with us. Because scum can't touch you, would you mind sharing the role/alignment in its entirety? From your posts I infer that you're a survivor (3rd party), but the joker doesn't walk around unarmed. If claiming is a bad idea for a reason I'm missing, ignore this request. Sure, all the complicated stuff was similar to BC's, I would know who he is, but couldnt reveal him or get modkilled. I would copy paste the PM, but that's against the rules. It makes sense along with BCs role. I can kill every night, so occasionally he might protect them or what not. I also "somehow manage to avoid getting killed". I'm assuming that's a vest of sorts. My alignment is Serial Killer. So I'll target whoever you guys want me to. Lynch me if I don't. I benefit if I hit scum now since you guys mislynched spectacularly, and offed essentially an OP medic role. Assuming? Why on day 2 do you still not know the specifics of your role? Why have you not PMd deconduo about the specifics? They are pretty fucking important to you. Oh that's right, you haven't faked your own role PM yet. I would bet lefty that this is doctored and probably entirely written by bum himself. On June 03 2011 08:34 bumatlarge wrote: You are Jack White, otherwise known as the Joker. You are known as the clown prince of crime, the Harlequin of Hate, and the Ace of Knaves. You are a highly intelligent psychopath with a warped, sadistic sense of humour. Your only goal is to show the world the genius of your comedy. You do this by inspiring fear and chaos within the ranks of all who dwell there. You are not a standard run-of-the-mill Serial Killer. As the Joker, you can shoot every night to push your psychotic research. You also miraculously survive normal hits, leaving behind traces of your identity to the amateur killer. Lastly, your life would not be complete without your arch-nemesis Batman. At the end of Night 1 you will be informed who this is. You may not under any circumstances have this player killed. You may not reveal their role to anyone. You must converse, argue, and joke with them. Threatening them only when you must. If this player at any point in time dies at night you will know who did it. You must then push to have them lynched during the following day (but not disclosing how you know they killed your rival). If they survive the lynch, you must kill them the following night. No one is allowed to kill Batman but you. You must also survive until the end of the game to achieve victory. Your alignment is Serial Killer. On June 02 2011 09:42 bumatlarge wrote: I believe that's easy to explain tackster. The joker is my role, an SK gets a role on top of his alignment. Batman and joker obviously were added into the game by the host, and we have predetermined powers. I believe there are other normal SKs in the game. And would you really think the joker would b a town aligned role? If I had thought town was that gullible, I would have tried to tell everyone that deconduo wasn't the real host. My role leads me to believe I don't have a standard vest, as it specifically states I miraculously survive hits. Fairly certain protection piercing kp or lynch will kil me. I think you should read more into it tackster then spreading false information. I'm not going to go against win condition which is to survive. Since that mostly involves not getting lynched, I don't really have a choice in not claiming. Again, leads you to believe? You already know for sure and are hiding it. On June 02 2011 10:03 bumatlarge wrote: I dont really care what individuals say, I'll do whatever the majority wants me to so I can stay alive. My reads? I haven't really been paying much attention aside from making myself look town. I doubt I would be able to get a good scum read day 1. Rubbish. If you are SK it is of course in your interest to try and decide who is who. You are supposedly claiming to help direct town shots, you would definitely be looking at who you think is Mafia if you were truly SK. Also, good job outlining your plan. On June 03 2011 06:08 bumatlarge wrote: Roleblocked, touche scum. Of course, how convenient. DAY 1 BEHAVIOUR He doesn't say.......... anything. Read his posts. I play this game off my scum list. Well where is it? ?????? It is possible Palmar's fistpound does something :o. There's probably a lot of KP :o Herp Amber may be useful :o Voting patterns are important :o. Comes off Varpuli for no reason and jumps on tnkted for no reason. Jumps on sandroba Giving reasons for your voting is important :o All this stuff is attempting to blend in and doing absolutely nothing helpful. CONCLUSION Bum is lying about his role. He is actively avoiding looking for Mafia which contradicts the purpose of his claim. After the flip his only real choice to survive was to claim what he did. He was trying to blend in like hell previously to this. I think he is in fact Mafia not SK. | ||
DropBear
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June 03 2011 19:40 GMT
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DROPBEAR'S THOUGHTS PART 4 OF 4 Other assorted tidbits - Bringing back BloodyC0bbler is an excellent idea. He's already flipped town. He's an expert player. Why not bring him back? I don't agree with the worries raised by Amber and others that his role could protect Mafia. From the looks of things, there are so many killing roles that the only time it could possibly harm town would be if he was still alive with only 5-6 players left and the only shot being a Mafia shot. - Wiggles' claim of framed and his night action bussed is theoretically possible. Theoretical. It is however bullshit. The chances of everything lining up so perfectly are astronomically small. It assumes that there is a bus driver, it also assumes that there is a framer. There then has to be him being framed, which is 1/31 chance, plus sinani being bussed with precisely deskcaress which is some stupidly small number. The chances of all these things falling perfectly into place are negligible. There is also this post which I credit for starting the ridiculous sandroba v redFF v Jackal58 melee and completely derailed town for several pages. Not only this, he was jumping on whatever bandwagon was gaining speed at the time without starting any of them. His scum flip is no real surprise. This claim of being DT checked because he was on a zodiac list is rubbish. The point of the zodiac lists was NOT dt checking those on it. - I still don't understand why I'm on the zodiac lists and I would LOVE an explanation. - This thread is reeeeeeeeally hard to read. Please stop posting every little thing that comes into your head, only post if you have something important to say. I'm having massive problems getting scumreads cos its just spam spam spam. Keep it concise and need-to-know. - The level of roleclaiming is ridiculous. My spreadsheet can't keep up with the notes. There is so much information out there now that Mafia can use and I encourage everyone who has not roleclaimed yet to stay silent, at least until you have something very important that requires revealing yourself. -GMarshal if you were roleblocked, how the hell are you supposed to have added someone to your mason circle? Or is that a day action? - Fistpound list Day 2 Returned fistpound that was offered by Palmar Offered to Palmar without being asked Kenpachi Rean Kurumi Mataza tnkted Cthsazsa hiro protagonist steftastiq sinani206 Refused/ignored invitation from Palmar deconduo can you please update the list of people who have died and the important post links in the OP? | ||
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