| carloselcoco United States. July 18 2011 10:39. Posts 2292 | Profile Blog # |
On July 18 2011 10:24 FrankWalls wrote:havent had an opponent since the first week  ((
That means that you missed one of your games and you were disqualified |
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| AJMcSpiffy United States. July 18 2011 10:41. Posts 1151 | Profile Blog # |
Only match I had to play was week one, ended up with one more FFL and the rest as FFWs. Gonna be advancing to the next round and I'm excited!
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On July 18 2011 10:39 carloselcoco wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 10:24 FrankWalls wrote:havent had an opponent since the first week ((
That means that you missed one of your games and you were disqualified
What? I think he means none of his opponents showed up. Pretty sure (positive in fact) that you don't get disqualified for missing one match.Last edit: 2011-07-18 10:43:02 |
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| GGzerG United States. July 18 2011 10:56. Posts 3513 | Profile Blog # |
| lol one of my opponents after I beat him said he would report the loss and instead reported he won , I didn't really check untill today, so I shouldn't have one of the losses T_T |
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| Sigz Canada. July 18 2011 11:08. Posts 85 | Profile # |
| Any idea what the tiebreakers for the amateur groups are... there are 3 people tied for 1st with 5-1 records, is it the round differential column that determines the tiebreak? |
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| CustomKal Canada. July 18 2011 11:18. Posts 432 | Profile # |
Yay advanced from my group  |
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| CustomKal Canada. July 18 2011 11:18. Posts 432 | Profile # |
On July 18 2011 11:08 Sigz wrote:
Any idea what the tiebreakers for the amateur groups are... there are 3 people tied for 1st with 5-1 records, is it the round differential column that determines the tiebreak?
I think its game wins then game losses |
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| FrankWalls United States. July 18 2011 11:32. Posts 1073 | Profile Blog # |
On July 18 2011 10:39 carloselcoco wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 10:24 FrankWalls wrote:havent had an opponent since the first week ((
That means that you missed one of your games and you were disqualified
yeah sorry bad wording on my part. i mean i havent had an opponent SHOW UP since the first week |
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| Sc1pio United States. July 18 2011 12:26. Posts 800 | Profile Blog # |
On July 18 2011 11:18 CustomKal wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 11:08 Sigz wrote:
Any idea what the tiebreakers for the amateur groups are... there are 3 people tied for 1st with 5-1 records, is it the round differential column that determines the tiebreak?
I think its game wins then game losses
2.12 Prelim Ranking Method: During Preliminary Phase, Players will be ranked using the proprietary CEVO Performance Index ("CPI") formula, which is based on ranking systems widely used in athletic competitions. The formula consists of three components: number of wins, win percentage, and the strength of schedule which is based on averaging the win percentage of each of a given Player's opponents minus the Match between the Player and that opponent. Each Player's CPI rating and relative rank will be viewable during the preliminary phases on the standings page.
Too bad we dont get access to this |
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| RaveBomb Canada. July 18 2011 22:39. Posts 33 | Profile # |
Wow. I had a stroke of luck last night. The masters player in my group didn't show for his final game today and was disqualified. That action bumped me from 3rd to 2nd in my division.
Do we know when the next groups will be posted?
Also do the scores reset for this next round? Or do we carry our current W/L record with us? Last edit: 2011-07-18 22:39:49 |
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| Ithril United States. July 18 2011 23:35. Posts 3 | Profile # |
On July 18 2011 12:26 Sc1pio wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 11:18 CustomKal wrote:
On July 18 2011 11:08 Sigz wrote:
Any idea what the tiebreakers for the amateur groups are... there are 3 people tied for 1st with 5-1 records, is it the round differential column that determines the tiebreak?
I think its game wins then game losses
2.12 Prelim Ranking Method: During Preliminary Phase, Players will be ranked using the proprietary CEVO Performance Index ("CPI") formula, which is based on ranking systems widely used in athletic competitions. The formula consists of three components: number of wins, win percentage, and the strength of schedule which is based on averaging the win percentage of each of a given Player's opponents minus the Match between the Player and that opponent. Each Player's CPI rating and relative rank will be viewable during the preliminary phases on the standings page. Too bad we dont get access to this
Yeah, the formula is interesting. I'm sure it works for tournaments where everyone shows up consistently, but it makes for weird quirks with a lot of no-shows.
For instance my friends group: He had a forefit loss to start the tournament (against a player who never showed up for any games,) then only played one more game (which he won 2-0), and got forefit wins every other game. The guy who won the group got to play two games, and took a FFL against my friend. Because the group winner decided to take the FFL, and had an additional win, he won the tiebreaker even with an identical record and the head-to-head loss. The weird tie-breaks created a situation for the group leader where he could clinch the group by simply not showing up to his match because he had one less person forfeit against him.
One would think that if you had identical or better records than everyone in the group and had beaten everyone in the group who actually participated in the tournament you would win the group, but apparently you get punished for your opponents not showing up.
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| Zaros United Kingdom. July 18 2011 23:53. Posts 1197 | Profile Blog # |
I have a few questions about the standings tables, mabye someone can answer them here as they are simple questions.
1. Wht does the number left of the player name in the standings table indicate?
2. Wht does R+ mean?
3. Wht does R- mean?
4. Wht does RD mean?
5. Wht does S mean? |
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| deepfield1 United States. July 19 2011 00:44. Posts 345 | Profile Blog # |
how are they handling wins and losses from people how have been DQ'd from the tournament
im not sure these wins or losses should pull any weight at all |
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| RaveBomb Canada. July 19 2011 00:44. Posts 33 | Profile # |
From a few pages back.
On July 14 2011 05:40 CEVO Ellis wrote:
A quick rundown off the top of my head about what each column means:
S = Streak
FFL = Forfeit loss
FFW = Forfeit win
R+ = Rounds won (or games)
R- = Rounds loss
RD = Round differential (R+ - R-)
GP = Games played
My understanding of FFW vs actual Wins is that a FFW counts for less then a full win.
In my group, there have been two people who have gone 5/2 overall. However, one had more actual game-played wins then the other and is thus ranked higher.
It sucks, but I think your overall score is hurt if your opponent doesn't show up to get stomped.
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This next round of games should be better, as we should hopefully have shed all the inactive players. Last edit: 2011-07-19 00:55:14 |
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| deepfield1 United States. July 19 2011 00:56. Posts 345 | Profile Blog # |
yeah.. standings should really be decided by who is actually left in the group..
so many people are going to get screwed if they count FFW and FFL for people that were DQ'd |
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| Zaros United Kingdom. July 19 2011 00:59. Posts 1197 | Profile Blog # |
On July 19 2011 00:44 RaveBomb wrote:From a few pages back.
Show nested quote +On July 14 2011 05:40 CEVO Ellis wrote:
A quick rundown off the top of my head about what each column means:
S = Streak
FFL = Forfeit loss
FFW = Forfeit win
R+ = Rounds won (or games)
R- = Rounds loss
RD = Round differential (R+ - R-)
GP = Games played
My understanding of FFW vs actual Wins is that a FFW counts for less then a full win. In my group, there have been two people who have gone 5/2 overall. However, one had more actual game-played wins then the other and is thus ranked higher. It sucks, but I think your overall score is hurt if your opponent doesn't show up to get stomped. EDIT: This next round of games should be better, as we should hopefully have shed all the inactive players.
Thanks for tht, im guessing the number to the left of the player name in the standings is overall rank as i cant see any repeats in the standings. (That would make me no.1 in the european amatuer group :D ) |
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| RaveBomb Canada. July 19 2011 01:11. Posts 33 | Profile # |
| That is my understanding of that number, considering it seems to change everytime the rank pages are updated. |
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| blibbertibs July 19 2011 02:58. Posts 10 | Profile # |
| I'm the only one left in my group... |
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| Akash1223 United States. July 19 2011 03:35. Posts 91 | Profile # |
Any word on when those of us advancing see our new group and/or when our next match will be?
The original post laid out the format but it also said groups would have 12 people and 2 would advance and it seem every group had 6 people so I'm not sure if it's accurate as it seems their format has changed.Last edit: 2011-07-19 03:38:31 |
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| Syrupjuice United States. July 19 2011 03:45. Posts 172 | Profile Blog # |
This is from the schedule page on the GeForce website: http://geforce.cevo.com/event/geforce-starcraft-2-pro-am/schedule/
Qualifying Phase
- Group Play Format
- 256 Groups of 10 players (9 rounds of play)
- North America: 245 groups
- Europe: 9 groups
- Asia: 2 groups
- Top 2 players from each group advances to next phase
- Two matches per play day, two play days per week (4 total matches per week)
- All matches are played at 8 PM or 10 PM Regional Time
Round 1: Thursday, July 21 @ 8 PM
Round 2: Thursday, July 21 @ 10 PM
Round 3: Sunday, July 24 @ 8 PM
Round 4: Sunday, July 24 @ 10 PM
Round 5: Thursday, July 28 @ 8 PM
Round 6: Thursday, July 28 @ 10 PM
Round 7: Sunday, July 31 @ 8 PM
Round 8: Sunday, July 31 @ 10 PM
Round 9: Thursday, August 4 @ 8 PM
So, if they want to keep with that schedule new groups should be out within two days (I would really hope so). This schedule looks a whole lot more rigorous than the previous one. But, it should still be fun to play c: I'm excited to get to play more games and hopefully see how I compare to the better players left in the tourny.
Best of luck everyone!
EDIT: Just realized that I'll be out of town for one of those weekends ;_; I hope it doesn't hurt my play too muchLast edit: 2011-07-19 03:47:58 |
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| Zaros United Kingdom. July 19 2011 03:47. Posts 1197 | Profile Blog # |
| I hope i get another easy group being the no.1 ranked player ^___^ . Last edit: 2011-07-19 03:47:58 |
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