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| Myrmidon United States. May 07 2012 00:41. Posts 8487 | Profile Blog # |
| For that kind of overclock, Hyper 412S if you care about noise, whichever is cheaper if you do not. |
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| taldarimAltar May 07 2012 02:29. Posts 834 | Profile Blog # |
Help I can't decide whether to get a rig that I can OC or not. The price difference for me in my country is about $100 US
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i5 2500k and z68 mobo and coolermaster 212
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i5 2400 and h67 mobo
I've never OC before is the difference in price worth the extra performance?
For my gpu it's between the 550ti (Msi, asus, winfast or gigabyte) vs 6770 (Asus, Msi, xfx, powercolor, gigabyte) prices range from $115-150 usd, don't know how to choose seem similar. The 550ti cards are slightly more expensive.
Thanks in advance! Not very short questions sorry!
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| Myrmidon United States. May 07 2012 02:42. Posts 8487 | Profile Blog # |
Used for what? If it's for gaming (particularly if not SC2), the i5-2500k is probably not worth it. It would make a lot more sense, if you care about graphics detail settings, to get a better graphics card.
The GTX 550 Ti / HD 6770 are not usually at a great price relative to how fast they are. An HD 6850 (or older GTX 460 if available around the same price or less) is a better value. HD 6870 (or GTX 560 if at the same price) is also good. |
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| BeMannerDuPenner Germany. May 07 2012 02:43. Posts 5146 | Profile Blog # |
On May 07 2012 02:29 taldarimAltar wrote:
For my gpu it's between the 550ti (Msi, asus, winfast or gigabyte) vs 6770 (Asus, Msi, xfx, powercolor, gigabyte) prices range from $115-150 usd, don't know how to choose seem similar. The 550ti cards are slightly more expensive.
Thanks in advance! Not very short questions sorry!
neither. for that pricerange get a nice 460 1gb, way better then the others and you have tons of room to overclock it and gain another 15-20% performance.
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| taldarimAltar May 07 2012 04:20. Posts 834 | Profile Blog # |
Yes i'll be using it for purely gaming. Mainly d3 and dota2 w sc2 and some fps/skyrim on the side.Shit there gotta be some price fixing shit over here where I live. GT460 are all sold out, 6850 are about 180+ and 560s about 210+. I guess it's worth the extra bucks right?
Now I only need to consider whether sacrificing the 2500k for a better graphics card is worth it. Many games now are bottleneck by the GPU I've read. It may be the better decision. But i've always thought the processor did everything when I bought my old PC. I skimped on the CPU for a 256mb card about 5 years ago, I could support high textures but the frameratesbwould suffer. I guess games nowadays use the gpu much more.
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| Pharsen Sweden. May 07 2012 04:37. Posts 2 | Profile # |
Hello, Im going to buy a new pc but Im a total buffoon when it comes to computers so Im helping tl could help me 
Im hoping to play skyrim, battlefield 3, Guildwars 2 and Starcraft 2 on fairly high settings, would this build do?
Silver Power SP-SS500 500W PSU
Intel® Core i5-2500 Processor
Kingston ValueR. DDR3 1333MHz 4GB
PowerColor Radeon HD 6870 1GB GDDR5
all and all thrown into a nice cooler master case. |
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| Zushen May 07 2012 06:15. Posts 275 | Profile # |
| how do i upload a replay pack via a zip file? |
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| skyR Canada. May 07 2012 06:25. Posts 11177 | Profile # |
| You zip the files and upload the zip? |
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| boon2537 United States. May 07 2012 09:41. Posts 656 | Profile Blog # |
Hey TL! I have some questions that I don't think they warrant their own thread.
I'm planning to add a new harddrive to my pc. I'm probably gonna go with the 2tb Western Digital Caviar Green, so I can have plenty space to store my blu-ray anime :3 Still, my concern is that will such a huge and somewhat economical drive slow down the my pc's performance. Are there any good alternative? Also, after I get the harddrive, how do I format my old harddrive to use it as a back up while installing windows on the new drive? (I know I'm a big computer noob here >.<)
I'm also buying a laptop for college uses. Since I already have a somewhat decent pc, I don't need a power-gaming laptop. Still, it would be awesome if you guys can recommend me any laptop around $500-800 that can smoothly play SC2, D3, Dota2 on the lowest setting as well as smoothly play 1080p movie, as I might hook it to a T.V. sometimes.
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| Myrmidon United States. May 07 2012 10:06. Posts 8487 | Profile Blog # |
Why not just keep running Windows off of the old hard drive?
Do you need a laptop now? If you can wait a month or two, it may be worth waiting for laptops with a 3rd-gen (Ivy Bridge) Core i5 or i3. Those would be great for gaming on low and at a decent price, size, and weight. |
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| m1rk3 Canada. May 07 2012 10:17. Posts 392 | Profile # |
I have a hard drive enclosure (USB 2.0) as the old hard drive (seagate) died in that enclosure. I tried using a different hard drive and it works fine. I'm planning to upgrade my PC in about 5-6 months, but I need a new external to store HD video, pictures and music.
Should I buy caviar blue (or a 1 TB drive) and just put that into the enclosure that I currently have?
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should I buy this http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX30822 |
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| Myrmidon United States. May 07 2012 10:26. Posts 8487 | Profile Blog # |
You have USB3 ports on your computer?
If it's just storing HD video, pictures, and music, USB2 is okay though, so using the old enclosure doesn't sound like it would be an issue. |
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| m1rk3 Canada. May 07 2012 10:34. Posts 392 | Profile # | |
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| TheToast United States. May 07 2012 10:50. Posts 4804 | Profile Blog # |
On May 06 2012 08:50 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 06 2012 08:42 moltenlead wrote:
I have a pretty noobish question.
Does the OS attempt to store entire programs into the RAM to access the files more quickly if there was sufficient space free in the RAM?
The more specific scenario that I'm looking at: I have just ordered a laptop with 16gb of RAM (It was a $20 upgrade over the 8gb, so I decided to grab it since I wouldn't find it cheaper elsewhere) and I was wondering whether for games like Diablo 3 the OS would attempt to move as many game files as possible into the RAM for faster level loading times? I don't want to put it on my SSD because a 128gb drive gets eaten up very quickly with 12gb installs, but I would still like some decent loading times.
Your initial question and your final question are almost unrelated. To a point, yes, the PC can load more to RAM once you start the program. You can NOT, however, install things to RAM. Which I think is what you were asking towards the end? 16GB RAM is likely to massively exceed your ability to gain any increased load times.
You are completely and totally wrong here.
Yes, windows does pre-load applications into memory when there is sufficient free RAM to do so, it's called Superfetch. Wikipedia that shit. I don't know how much of an improvement in application start-up times would be seen with 16 versus 8 GB of RAM. Though it is entirely possible that he would see an improvement. Also, you can install things to RAM, as SkyR pointed out, so you're wrong again.
On May 06 2012 09:18 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 06 2012 09:15 skyR wrote:
Make ramdisk, install D3 onto it. Problem solved.
It's a laptop. I'm hearing PEBKAC waiting to happen in that.
Considering you're the one who's wrong, I suggest you stop being a complete and total ass. moltenlead if you have any other questions feel free to PM me; I think some people have forgotten that the point of this forum is to help people, not insult them :/
On May 07 2012 06:15 Zushen wrote:
how do i upload a replay pack via a zip file?
To zip files, you need a file compression utility. I highly highly reccommend 7-zip, it's free, open source, and works great.
Download from here: http://www.7-zip.org/
On May 06 2012 13:20 ghindo wrote:I built my own computer a few years ago, and ever since I first built it the Windows "Safely Remove Hardware" offers to eject my main (and only) hard drive, like this: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/qkgFc.png) Is this normal? Or did I mess up installing the hard drive? Should I even worry about this?
That's very odd, lol definitely not normal. Especially since Windows is registering it as an ATA device. I would say if you're concerned about it, make a new thread. Knowing system specs and the type of harddrive might be important.
On May 07 2012 10:26 Myrmidon wrote:
You have USB3 ports on your computer?
If it's just storing HD video, pictures, and music, USB2 is okay though, so using the old enclosure doesn't sound like it would be an issue.
Depends on how much stuff he's got stored on there too. I use my external for backup of all my files, and honestly the speeds of USB 2.0 can make backing up 10GB worth of stuff take an agonizingly long time. |
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| m1rk3 Canada. May 07 2012 10:55. Posts 392 | Profile # |
| the current mother board that i have doesnt have any usb 3.0 ports, it's a yr and a half old. I have about 70 gigs to back up atm. Have nothing to back it up to, everything is sitting on my desktops hd |
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 JingleHell United States. May 07 2012 10:58. Posts 11262 | Profile Blog # |
On May 07 2012 10:50 TheToast wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 06 2012 08:50 JingleHell wrote:
On May 06 2012 08:42 moltenlead wrote:
I have a pretty noobish question.
Does the OS attempt to store entire programs into the RAM to access the files more quickly if there was sufficient space free in the RAM?
The more specific scenario that I'm looking at: I have just ordered a laptop with 16gb of RAM (It was a $20 upgrade over the 8gb, so I decided to grab it since I wouldn't find it cheaper elsewhere) and I was wondering whether for games like Diablo 3 the OS would attempt to move as many game files as possible into the RAM for faster level loading times? I don't want to put it on my SSD because a 128gb drive gets eaten up very quickly with 12gb installs, but I would still like some decent loading times.
Your initial question and your final question are almost unrelated. To a point, yes, the PC can load more to RAM once you start the program. You can NOT, however, install things to RAM. Which I think is what you were asking towards the end? 16GB RAM is likely to massively exceed your ability to gain any increased load times.
You are completely and totally wrong here. Yes, windows does pre-load applications into memory when there is sufficient free RAM to do so, it's called Superfetch. Wikipedia that shit. I don't know how much of an improvement in application start-up times would be seen with 16 versus 8 GB of RAM. Though it is entirely possible that he would see an improvement. Also, you can install things to RAM, as SkyR pointed out, so you're wrong again.
Show nested quote +On May 06 2012 09:18 JingleHell wrote:
On May 06 2012 09:15 skyR wrote:
Make ramdisk, install D3 onto it. Problem solved.
It's a laptop. I'm hearing PEBKAC waiting to happen in that.
Considering you're the one who's wrong, I suggest you stop being a complete and total ass. moltenlead if you have any other questions feel free to PM me; I think some people have forgotten that the point of this forum is to help people, not insult them :/
Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 06:15 Zushen wrote:
how do i upload a replay pack via a zip file?
To zip files, you need a file compression utility. I highly highly reccommend 7-zip, it's free, open source, and works great. Download from here: http://www.7-zip.org/
Show nested quote +On May 06 2012 13:20 ghindo wrote:I built my own computer a few years ago, and ever since I first built it the Windows "Safely Remove Hardware" offers to eject my main (and only) hard drive, like this: Is this normal? Or did I mess up installing the hard drive? Should I even worry about this?
That's very odd, lol definitely not normal. Especially since Windows is registering it as an ATA device. I would say if you're concerned about it, make a new thread. Knowing system specs and the type of harddrive might be important.
Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 10:26 Myrmidon wrote:
You have USB3 ports on your computer?
If it's just storing HD video, pictures, and music, USB2 is okay though, so using the old enclosure doesn't sound like it would be an issue.
Depends on how much stuff he's got stored on there too. I use my external for backup of all my files, and honestly the speeds of USB 2.0 can make backing up 10GB worth of stuff take an agonizingly long time.
Check again, I thought he was essentially wanting it to RAMdisk itself. Superfetch, IIRC, is closer to an intelligent, use based caching type thing, that may or may not do what you actually want it to.
However, I haven't actually paid much attention to superfetch. |
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| TheToast United States. May 07 2012 11:07. Posts 4804 | Profile Blog # |
On May 07 2012 10:58 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 10:50 TheToast wrote:
On May 06 2012 08:50 JingleHell wrote:
On May 06 2012 08:42 moltenlead wrote:
I have a pretty noobish question.
Does the OS attempt to store entire programs into the RAM to access the files more quickly if there was sufficient space free in the RAM?
The more specific scenario that I'm looking at: I have just ordered a laptop with 16gb of RAM (It was a $20 upgrade over the 8gb, so I decided to grab it since I wouldn't find it cheaper elsewhere) and I was wondering whether for games like Diablo 3 the OS would attempt to move as many game files as possible into the RAM for faster level loading times? I don't want to put it on my SSD because a 128gb drive gets eaten up very quickly with 12gb installs, but I would still like some decent loading times.
Your initial question and your final question are almost unrelated. To a point, yes, the PC can load more to RAM once you start the program. You can NOT, however, install things to RAM. Which I think is what you were asking towards the end? 16GB RAM is likely to massively exceed your ability to gain any increased load times.
You are completely and totally wrong here. Yes, windows does pre-load applications into memory when there is sufficient free RAM to do so, it's called Superfetch. Wikipedia that shit. I don't know how much of an improvement in application start-up times would be seen with 16 versus 8 GB of RAM. Though it is entirely possible that he would see an improvement. Also, you can install things to RAM, as SkyR pointed out, so you're wrong again.
On May 06 2012 09:18 JingleHell wrote:
On May 06 2012 09:15 skyR wrote:
Make ramdisk, install D3 onto it. Problem solved.
It's a laptop. I'm hearing PEBKAC waiting to happen in that.
Considering you're the one who's wrong, I suggest you stop being a complete and total ass. moltenlead if you have any other questions feel free to PM me; I think some people have forgotten that the point of this forum is to help people, not insult them :/
On May 07 2012 06:15 Zushen wrote:
how do i upload a replay pack via a zip file?
To zip files, you need a file compression utility. I highly highly reccommend 7-zip, it's free, open source, and works great. Download from here: http://www.7-zip.org/
On May 06 2012 13:20 ghindo wrote:I built my own computer a few years ago, and ever since I first built it the Windows "Safely Remove Hardware" offers to eject my main (and only) hard drive, like this: Is this normal? Or did I mess up installing the hard drive? Should I even worry about this?
That's very odd, lol definitely not normal. Especially since Windows is registering it as an ATA device. I would say if you're concerned about it, make a new thread. Knowing system specs and the type of harddrive might be important.
On May 07 2012 10:26 Myrmidon wrote:
You have USB3 ports on your computer?
If it's just storing HD video, pictures, and music, USB2 is okay though, so using the old enclosure doesn't sound like it would be an issue.
Depends on how much stuff he's got stored on there too. I use my external for backup of all my files, and honestly the speeds of USB 2.0 can make backing up 10GB worth of stuff take an agonizingly long time.
Check again, I thought he was essentially wanting it to RAMdisk itself. Superfetch, IIRC, is closer to an intelligent, use based caching type thing, that may or may not do what you actually want it to. However, I haven't actually paid much attention to superfetch.
This was his question:
"Does the OS attempt to store entire programs into the RAM to access the files more quickly if there was sufficient space free in the RAM?"
The answer to that is an unequivocal yes. When there is empty RAM, in Windows Vista and 7 the Superfetch takes the most used applications and pre-loads the required filed into memory, so that when the program is accessed it loads much quicker.
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| JingleHell United States. May 07 2012 11:10. Posts 11262 | Profile Blog # |
I was trying to go off the second paragraph, where he tried to explain what he was asking in more uncertain terms, and it looked like he wanted a RAMdisk without the dangers of using one on a lappy.
Volatile storage + installed software + battery = a new thread waiting to happen.
Oh, and let's not forget that even without that, it wouldn't actually help with the issue he wanted to avoid, since at shutdown all that data has to goto the SSD anyways.
Unless RAMdisk works a lot better than I think it does, it wouldn't really do what he was wanting. Last edit: 2012-05-07 11:14:31 |
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| boon2537 United States. May 07 2012 11:12. Posts 656 | Profile Blog # |
On May 07 2012 10:06 Myrmidon wrote:
Why not just keep running Windows off of the old hard drive?
Do you need a laptop now? If you can wait a month or two, it may be worth waiting for laptops with a 3rd-gen (Ivy Bridge) Core i5 or i3. Those would be great for gaming on low and at a decent price, size, and weight.
Well, the old hard drive is about 4 years old, so I'm a bit afraid that it might die someday.
Thanks for the head up on the Ivy Bridge. Those laptops sure look sexy. But from what I've seen they're mostly above $1000. Is there any specific model I should look forward to? |
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| TheToast United States. May 07 2012 11:16. Posts 4804 | Profile Blog # |
On May 07 2012 11:10 JingleHell wrote:
I was trying to go off the second paragraph, where he tried to explain what he was asking in more uncertain terms, and it looked like he wanted a RAMdisk without the dangers of using one on a lappy.
Volatile storage + installed software + battery = a new thread waiting to happen.
Oh, and let's not forget that even without that, it wouldn't actually help with the issue he wanted to avoid, since at shutdown all that data has to goto the SSD anyways.
Unless RAMdisk works a lot better than I think it does, it wouldn't really do what he was wanting.
His second paragraph was asking the exact same question as the first: "I was wondering whether for games like Diablo 3 the OS would attempt to move as many game files as possible into the RAM for faster level loading times?"
The answer to that is exactly the same: yes. No where did he ask about a RAM disk, that was SkyR who brought it up.
And if anything, the fact that a laptop has a built in battery backup actually makes is a safer platform for using a RAMdisk as a power outage won't result in instant data loss. |
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