Website Feedback
Closed Threads
IRC Chat
irc.quakenet.org #teamliquid
IRC Web ClientTeamSpeak 3 (84 users) | |
|
| RebirthOfLeGenD USA. June 02 2012 10:22. Posts 5342 | Profile Blog # |
On June 02 2012 04:27 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 04:14 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On June 02 2012 03:48 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 03:40 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On June 02 2012 02:57 JingleHell wrote:
Why are you building on X79 with an Asrock mobo and asking questions like this? Budget enthusiast shit is bad news, and if you need to ask that question, I can't see you getting most of the benefit of the platform.
The memory will work. It will run at 2133 assuming you clock it correctly, you just may have to manually do it, which can be an utter PITA. That's worst case.
Unless of course, the BIOS is a piece of shit, in which case you may not be able to force 2133 and may have to run 1866 or overvolt and run 2400. I think you're overestimating the value of OCed memory anyways, though.
I talked to you about this like a week ago in PM world. I purchased the i7-3930l for 180$, I didn't blow 600$. If you wan to recommend a better board within 200-300$ cool. I had an Asus board for my previous build and it sucked, I replaced it with an asrock that overclocked better and works perfectly. The ram was more of a why not thing. It's discounted right now to 96$ on newegg and I figured why not? quad channel ram tended to be in that area anyway. I was initially going to buy corsair ram that was 1600mhz, but it was 8gb and 65$, so I figured I might as well double it and get better speed for like 30$ more.
No, we talked about the 3930 price, not motherboards for it. Using an enthusiast rig with a cheap motherboard and/or shitty BIOS, well, that just prevents you getting all the benefits of the platform. (Oh by the way, Asrock is the Asus budget spinoff, so you didn't escape Asus, you just didn't buy the better version this time.) You're really justifying a lot of what we discussed in that conversation for me right now.
I assumed you were referring to me trying to buy a 230$ mobo with a 600$ chip, at which point I was pointing out that I didn't pay 600$ for the chip, meaning compariably the board is now the most expensive part of my build. Like I said, if you want to recommend a board go ahead. There is no reason to be a dick, our conversation was that in a way, Best Buy is not as overpriced and you refused to admit it in the face of numbers. It had nothing to do with my lack of knowledge that Asus also makes Asrock. I don't spend all my time doing this shit, it's a part time job. The boards features looked totally fine. What more could I need if you would care to enligthen me as opposed to being a dick.
Who's being a dick? I've already told you what you need. More knowledge of what you're getting and what it can do for you, and how to do it. A good BIOS. Reliable brands. Even at the Intel Retail Edge price, it's only better price/performance than an i5 rig if you know what it's going to help with and need it to help with those things. I never refused to admit anything. If you want to drag that whole conversation public, I'll be happy to copy/paste it in here. Otherwise, you'd do best to leave it to vague references like I did. I won't take kindly to assertations that it went differently than it did. What benefit do you think you're going to get, for what purposes, from X79, and how do you intend to get them? If you're building on that platform, based on your extensive knowledge and superior Geek Squad training, you certainly shouldn't need advice from some under-informed dick, right?
I said you are a dick because of the way you conduct yourself. Our entire PM log is you ranging from different levels of assholery. I'm here asking a question because I don't know the answer and am not pretending I do. If you can't give help without being a condescending prick about things then why bother?
We tap danced around and came to an agreement that the 200$ thing wasn't that bad yet you threw in some stipulation about if they knew there was an issue. You know there is an issue when your shit doesn't work. If it is slow or doesn't turn on you know there is an issue. Any idiot can figure that out its not hard. I didn't care to continue arguing over a negligable point.
I know some geeksquad people are dumb, and I never once said that I know everything, hence why I am here asking a question I wasn't quite sure how to google. You proceed to say that I shouldn't be building the PC because I am not going to get the fullest out of it. I already knew I wasn't, but when the price is less than an i5-2500k for me why the fuck would I downgrade? On top of that it is more future proof than an i5-2500k. How else can I gain knowledge except by asking questions to those who know more than I do?
Then in your next post you basically call me an idiot because I didn't know Asus created Asrock 15 years ago. It's funny, last time I checked a board working better was defined by how it performed, not who made it. My Asus was defective, my Asrock was not. It even OC'd my Phenom II to 4ghz on air when the Asus couldn't be stable past 3.8 or 3.9. So yes, Asrock was better in this case.
Oh and to the other guy, I should of explained a bit better. I was referring specifically to bestbuy computer repair costs not being as bad as most people think. There prices on video cards still kind of sucks, even with the discount.Last edit: 2012-06-02 10:22:30 |
| | Be a man, Become a Legend. TL Mafia Forum Ask for access!! |
|
|
| TheToast United States. June 02 2012 10:32. Posts 4804 | Profile Blog # |
^Okay, three pages is far enough to take a discussion/argument/whatever. This is the simple questions thread and obviously this was not or is no longer a simple question.
Rebirth, ask in the Computer Build resource thread (where you probably should have asked this to begin with) if you want other opinions.
And JH, be nice :/Last edit: 2012-06-02 10:32:46 |
| | I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid. | |
|
|
 JingleHell United States. June 02 2012 10:32. Posts 11262 | Profile Blog # |
The conversation, spoilered for length. Don't fucking misrepresent me to call me an asshole, you self righteous prick, I can be an asshole without help.
+ Show Spoiler +
Original Message From RebirthOfLeGenD:  calm down there sport. I have never actually bothered timing myself to install a video card, so maybe I was generous.
Show nested quote +Original Message From JingleHell: 30 minutes? That's how long it took me from shutdown to back to browsing last time I re-pasted one of my GPUs... and that's with a cigarette after shutting it down to let it cool off a little bit, and cleaning the heatsink while I was in there. What are you installing drivers from, 8 inch tapes?
Original Message From RebirthOfLeGenD: I woudln't say it means they are overpriced just because we can make profit off of 200$ for 3 PC's. The prices are there to show how much things usually cost and show how the 200$ thing is a decent deal. But it sounds like we are basically in agreement so theres no point to further argue. I get what you are saying in the sense that I wouldn't pay for, nor would I let people I know pay for geeksquad services if I can help them out. However that doesn't mean the need isn't there. But yeah, a lot of it on our part requires no work. We have two softwares that do 80% of our work. The diag+removal disk is the one that takes days to do, the other disk installs all updates and allows us to remove multiple programs at the same time. If its tricky diag work like a networking issue then its all on us, reformatting, installing hard drives and other PC parts that all falls on us. But most of the time its the automated virus removals that they do with the custom made software. but yeah, some stuff might be a little pricey. Like I installed a PSU for a customer the other day and it cost a flat 50$ for a hardware install no matter what piece it is. It took me 2 minutes to switch out the power supply but that is a bit situational. A video card would require more work because it requires checking that the PSU is powerful enough then switching out the card, but either way its only going to take like 20 to 30 minutes max including installing drivers for the new card.
Original Message From JingleHell: I believe I conceded that the $200 isn't utterly ludicrous, assuming they use the service, if you'll recall. And yes, I'm aware of overhead and profit. But again, with the individual service prices, well, they're pretty clearly overpriced if you can do the $200 plan and still make reasonable profits off the same problems those people have, right? If those people are really using it that much. As for a reasonable price? That would require more specific knowledge. But problems that aren't man/hour intensive, regardless of how much CPU time they take, shouldn't be costing $1+ per minute of a tech's time, which I'm guessing is closer than you'd want to admit.
Original Message From RebirthOfLeGenD: Well from my experience I can tell you that most people do know when their PC is slow, and most people possess a few computers. So when you tell them that you can likely fix their other computers too they get pretty happy. Yeah, they don't know how it works but they can usually realize that the laptop is getting hot, making noise, running unusually slow, and most recognize those fake malware programs. Sure, some people only use it that one time. But I notice a lot of people who come in for an issue, get the support service then bring in two other computers. They end up with 3 working PC's (usually) by the end of it. I wouldn't say 200$ is really a fortune either. They used to charge that per virus removal which might be obscene so maybe it is only by comparison that it is cheap, but it also includes a lot more. What would you say a fare number for a full diagnostic and virus removal should cost? You know, for a company trying to make money. The diag takes from 1-5 days depending on how shitty their PC is.
Original Message From JingleHell: Uhm, right. So you either pay for a service you may or may not need, (because let's face it, how long does it take the average idiot to realize their PC has a problem), or you pay a fortune when you actually need the service. Either way it's ludicrous. It could be worse, I mean, it's a big enough brand I expect you probably aren't sneaking excessive bloatware or straight up malware onto people, but the pricing is absurd. Let's face it, you'd need to have a LOT of computer trouble for $200 a year to be worth it. And of course, you'd need to know you have a lot of computer trouble. Unless you're having BSODs or popups, most people don't notice it at all. Mind you, I have quite a few friends in the IT world, and I do free shit for friends when needed. I've heard the horror stories of the sort of people who DO need that service. But I think you and I both know that most of those people are too stupid to buy the plan anyways, because the PC works by magic, and only has problems when those evil people in IT are out to get them personally.
Original Message From RebirthOfLeGenD: Yeah, those can be a bit hefty. Most discount in some way or another. Like a network set up ends up being like 50$ if you buy the router too or something. Anytime they go to your house though the prices get jacked up. If someone just bought a new PC its better for them to get that 200$ thing which discounts down to 100$ then pay 50$ for an hour and a half of in home labor which is covered under the 200$ thing. Paying individual for shit isn't worth it, a lot of times its cheaper to just pay for Tech Support which is the 200$ service which gets all sorts of discounts. But yeah, I'd say most in home stuff doesn't work in the most cost efficient way, but I thought you were referring to in store diagnostic stuff. I'm not going to pretend that the cost is equivalent due to gas or some dumb shit. In pretty much any case, that 200$ thing covers it. If you really wanted someone to come out to your house with Tech Support they just charge 50$ for 1.5 hours of labor which isn't bad, and that could literally involve any service they offer.
Original Message From JingleHell: I knew a little local computer shop in Colorado Springs called CompuX parts, that, at least while I was there, would do about the same shit the TL tech board does. Zero comissions, and if you asked, they'd help you pick shit you needed. They stayed open because people went there for competitive pricing and no-pressure purchases. They did computer repair the same way small, local, honest car shops do mechanic work, at reasonable prices. Locals who knew Best Buy's prices sucked all went there. By corporate fleecing, I'm talking things like individual service prices. You keep mentioning the $200 plan, let's talk about individual service? http://www.geeksquad.com/services/computers-networking/computer-tune-up.aspx$50 to chat with someone online. $100 to plug in a thumb drive and run a few things. http://www.geeksquad.com/services/computers-networking/computer-setup.aspx$70 to install some very basic shit. http://www.geeksquad.com/services/computers-networking/hardware-installation.aspxHardware install... oh my fucking god, $150 to plug in a printer? Don't tell me about gas, it doesn't cost $150 to get a Pizza delivered from further away. http://www.geeksquad.com/services/computers-networking/computer-hookup.aspx$150 to plug in a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and slap a few zip ties on. You want to tell me these prices aren't bullshit? Feel free, I'll laugh in your face.
Original Message From RebirthOfLeGenD: What example of corporate level fleecing do you have? I won't deny that in the past there was some funky stuff, but the pricing scheme now is very limited. I don't think any small place can really maintain integrity when their profit hinges off how much money they can make someone pay. I knew this guy I worked with at RadioShack years ago who used to do freelance computer work and apparently he did stuff so peoples PC's would stop working X amount of time from then so he could come back and get paid lol. When individual profit is tied to the work, that's when fleecing occurs, as it is now best buy just tries to make people as happy as possible, which means explaining as little shit as possible.
Original Message From JingleHell:
Oh, no, it's corporate level fleecing. Not tech level. And anecdotal as it may be, there ARE horror stories about misdiagnosis of hardware issues from geek squad. Sure, any store based tech service is horrendous, unless it's a small place with actual integrity (there's a few).
Geek squad just has the misfortune of being sufficiently well branded to get singled out.
[quote]
If I was going to call you an idiot, I'd damn well call you an idiot.
And at what point did I fail to give you advice? I gave you advice in my FIRST response, which you still seem to have not acknowledged. I told you that if they don't advertise that clock, unless the BIOS was designed by an incompetent, you should just have to manually set the clocks.
When you pay that much more for RAM and motherboard, even buying budget shit, by the way, it doesn't end up costing less. All I asked was whether you'd actually USE the thing, because let's face it, if I get half off on a Ferarri, when I never go above the speed limit, I've still spent more money than I needed to.
Edit: @Toast, I am being nice. Really. I must have edited out at least 70% of what I thought about saying before posting.
Last edit: 2012-06-02 10:33:40 |
| | http://jinglehelltech.blogspot.com -- Pics of my rig in Profile |
|
|
| jacosajh June 02 2012 10:36. Posts 2522 | Profile Blog # |
On June 02 2012 10:22 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 04:27 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 04:14 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On June 02 2012 03:48 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 03:40 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On June 02 2012 02:57 JingleHell wrote:
Why are you building on X79 with an Asrock mobo and asking questions like this? Budget enthusiast shit is bad news, and if you need to ask that question, I can't see you getting most of the benefit of the platform.
The memory will work. It will run at 2133 assuming you clock it correctly, you just may have to manually do it, which can be an utter PITA. That's worst case.
Unless of course, the BIOS is a piece of shit, in which case you may not be able to force 2133 and may have to run 1866 or overvolt and run 2400. I think you're overestimating the value of OCed memory anyways, though.
I talked to you about this like a week ago in PM world. I purchased the i7-3930l for 180$, I didn't blow 600$. If you wan to recommend a better board within 200-300$ cool. I had an Asus board for my previous build and it sucked, I replaced it with an asrock that overclocked better and works perfectly. The ram was more of a why not thing. It's discounted right now to 96$ on newegg and I figured why not? quad channel ram tended to be in that area anyway. I was initially going to buy corsair ram that was 1600mhz, but it was 8gb and 65$, so I figured I might as well double it and get better speed for like 30$ more.
No, we talked about the 3930 price, not motherboards for it. Using an enthusiast rig with a cheap motherboard and/or shitty BIOS, well, that just prevents you getting all the benefits of the platform. (Oh by the way, Asrock is the Asus budget spinoff, so you didn't escape Asus, you just didn't buy the better version this time.) You're really justifying a lot of what we discussed in that conversation for me right now.
I assumed you were referring to me trying to buy a 230$ mobo with a 600$ chip, at which point I was pointing out that I didn't pay 600$ for the chip, meaning compariably the board is now the most expensive part of my build. Like I said, if you want to recommend a board go ahead. There is no reason to be a dick, our conversation was that in a way, Best Buy is not as overpriced and you refused to admit it in the face of numbers. It had nothing to do with my lack of knowledge that Asus also makes Asrock. I don't spend all my time doing this shit, it's a part time job. The boards features looked totally fine. What more could I need if you would care to enligthen me as opposed to being a dick.
Who's being a dick? I've already told you what you need. More knowledge of what you're getting and what it can do for you, and how to do it. A good BIOS. Reliable brands. Even at the Intel Retail Edge price, it's only better price/performance than an i5 rig if you know what it's going to help with and need it to help with those things. I never refused to admit anything. If you want to drag that whole conversation public, I'll be happy to copy/paste it in here. Otherwise, you'd do best to leave it to vague references like I did. I won't take kindly to assertations that it went differently than it did. What benefit do you think you're going to get, for what purposes, from X79, and how do you intend to get them? If you're building on that platform, based on your extensive knowledge and superior Geek Squad training, you certainly shouldn't need advice from some under-informed dick, right?
I said you are a dick because of the way you conduct yourself. Our entire PM log is you ranging from different levels of assholery. I'm here asking a question because I don't know the answer and am not pretending I do. If you can't give help without being a condescending prick about things then why bother? We tap danced around and came to an agreement that the 200$ thing wasn't that bad yet you threw in some stipulation about if they knew there was an issue. You know there is an issue when your shit doesn't work. If it is slow or doesn't turn on you know there is an issue. Any idiot can figure that out its not hard. I didn't care to continue arguing over a negligable point. I know some geeksquad people are dumb, and I never once said that I know everything, hence why I am here asking a question I wasn't quite sure how to google. You proceed to say that I shouldn't be building the PC because I am not going to get the fullest out of it. I already knew I wasn't, but when the price is less than an i5-2500k for me why the fuck would I downgrade? On top of that it is more future proof than an i5-2500k. How else can I gain knowledge except by asking questions to those who know more than I do? Then in your next post you basically call me an idiot because I didn't know Asus created Asrock 15 years ago. It's funny, last time I checked a board working better was defined by how it performed, not who made it. My Asus was defective, my Asrock was not. It even OC'd my Phenom II to 4ghz on air when the Asus couldn't be stable past 3.8 or 3.9. So yes, Asrock was better in this case. Oh and to the other guy, I should of explained a bit better. I was referring specifically to bestbuy computer repair costs not being as bad as most people think. There prices on video cards still kind of sucks, even with the discount.
That's even worse -_- Best Buy service prices are absolutely horrendous unless they cut everything in half or more.
For example, how much does Best Buy charge to convert old media into digital copies (on a HDD or some other). Isn't it like $40 each file or something like that? Wal Mart charges $2 each file.
$200 to back up your HDD?
|
|
|
 motbob  United States. June 02 2012 10:41. Posts 11467 | Profile Blog # |
| It would be a big mistake for either of you (Jinglehell, RoL) to carry the argument forward in this thread. Last edit: 2012-06-02 10:42:07 |
| | <marttorn> lucky I don't live in a culturally diverse place | |
|
|
| Sovano United States. June 02 2012 12:40. Posts 1265 | Profile # |
On June 02 2012 09:08 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 09:05 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:02 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:01 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 08:51 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 08:46 Sovano wrote:
Today I received all of my parts to build my computer. I installed all of the hardware components, and plugged in all the PSU cables. To no surprise the computer did not turn on. The PSU cables I think is where my problem is residing, because I'm pretty sure all the hardware was put in correctly. It might also be notable to mention that my tower came with some cables of its own. USB and SATA I think? I plugged in the USB fine, though I couldn't find anything to use the SATA cables for. I'm using a Corsair 500W ATX12V Power Supply and NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case. Thought I'd at least post here while I continue to troubleshoot.
Did you flip the switch on the back of the PSU? Did you install motherboard standoffs? Did you plug in both the 24pin motherboard, and either a 4pin or 8pin for the CPU? Did you hook up the case headers properly to the motherboard?
Yes I made sure to switch the flip on the PSU. The motherboard standoffs are installed. The 24 pin connector is on the motherboard for sure. The 8 pin for my CPU took a while, because I had only 4 for my motherboard, but figured out the 8 pin could be two 4 pin connectors, so I detached one and plugged that in next to the CPU. Though I'm not sure what you mean by case headers. I'm assuming that's the cables that came with my tower/case. Was checking my case headers (assuming I assumed what they were correctly in my last two sentences), it turns out there were 5 mini pins I forgot to connect. They were called like "Power S, HDD LED, P+, and etc". I'll try plugging those in and seeing how it works out.
Power S sounds suspiciously like "power switch" and yes, those are the ones I meant. Since the power switch on the case can't tell the mobo to boot without that wire... you get the idea? Easy to miss. You wouldn't believe the full list of dumb shit I've pulled off working on PCs. The better you are, the longer the list of boneheaded fuckups gets. And the more inexcusable most of them are.
I feel silly, because I can't find any single place to place them in my motherboard lol....
There should be a row of pins, usually next to the SATA ports on the motherboard. Check the manual if you can't find them. You'd feel sillier if you'd done something like disassemble your GPUs for cleaning and re-pasting and forgetting to plug in the PCIE connectors to them, or the SLI bridge afterwards, and were me. I've done both.
Okay well an update to my computer building endeavors. After 5 hours of troubleshooting I got my computer to boot up. Everything works but the monitor and CPU fan. The monitor doesn't seem to be recognized and the CPU fan is not moving for some reason. Any thoughts? I hope I didn't already damage my CPU  |
| |
|
| JingleHell United States. June 02 2012 12:44. Posts 11262 | Profile Blog # |
On June 02 2012 12:40 Sovano wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 09:08 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:05 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:02 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:01 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 08:51 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 08:46 Sovano wrote:
Today I received all of my parts to build my computer. I installed all of the hardware components, and plugged in all the PSU cables. To no surprise the computer did not turn on. The PSU cables I think is where my problem is residing, because I'm pretty sure all the hardware was put in correctly. It might also be notable to mention that my tower came with some cables of its own. USB and SATA I think? I plugged in the USB fine, though I couldn't find anything to use the SATA cables for. I'm using a Corsair 500W ATX12V Power Supply and NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case. Thought I'd at least post here while I continue to troubleshoot.
Did you flip the switch on the back of the PSU? Did you install motherboard standoffs? Did you plug in both the 24pin motherboard, and either a 4pin or 8pin for the CPU? Did you hook up the case headers properly to the motherboard?
Yes I made sure to switch the flip on the PSU. The motherboard standoffs are installed. The 24 pin connector is on the motherboard for sure. The 8 pin for my CPU took a while, because I had only 4 for my motherboard, but figured out the 8 pin could be two 4 pin connectors, so I detached one and plugged that in next to the CPU. Though I'm not sure what you mean by case headers. I'm assuming that's the cables that came with my tower/case. Was checking my case headers (assuming I assumed what they were correctly in my last two sentences), it turns out there were 5 mini pins I forgot to connect. They were called like "Power S, HDD LED, P+, and etc". I'll try plugging those in and seeing how it works out.
Power S sounds suspiciously like "power switch" and yes, those are the ones I meant. Since the power switch on the case can't tell the mobo to boot without that wire... you get the idea? Easy to miss. You wouldn't believe the full list of dumb shit I've pulled off working on PCs. The better you are, the longer the list of boneheaded fuckups gets. And the more inexcusable most of them are.
I feel silly, because I can't find any single place to place them in my motherboard lol....
There should be a row of pins, usually next to the SATA ports on the motherboard. Check the manual if you can't find them. You'd feel sillier if you'd done something like disassemble your GPUs for cleaning and re-pasting and forgetting to plug in the PCIE connectors to them, or the SLI bridge afterwards, and were me. I've done both.
Okay well an update to my computer building endeavors. After 5 hours of troubleshooting I got my computer to boot up. Everything works but the monitor and CPU fan. The monitor doesn't seem to be recognized and the CPU fan is not moving for some reason. Any thoughts? I hope I didn't already damage my CPU
Is the CPU cooler attached to the right pins on the motherboard? Is the monitor attached to the motherboard, or the GPU? Did you connect the PCIE cables to the GPU? Did you get POST beeps? |
| | http://jinglehelltech.blogspot.com -- Pics of my rig in Profile |
|
|
| Sovano United States. June 02 2012 12:47. Posts 1265 | Profile # |
On June 02 2012 12:44 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 12:40 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:08 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:05 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:02 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:01 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 08:51 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 08:46 Sovano wrote:
Today I received all of my parts to build my computer. I installed all of the hardware components, and plugged in all the PSU cables. To no surprise the computer did not turn on. The PSU cables I think is where my problem is residing, because I'm pretty sure all the hardware was put in correctly. It might also be notable to mention that my tower came with some cables of its own. USB and SATA I think? I plugged in the USB fine, though I couldn't find anything to use the SATA cables for. I'm using a Corsair 500W ATX12V Power Supply and NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case. Thought I'd at least post here while I continue to troubleshoot.
Did you flip the switch on the back of the PSU? Did you install motherboard standoffs? Did you plug in both the 24pin motherboard, and either a 4pin or 8pin for the CPU? Did you hook up the case headers properly to the motherboard?
Yes I made sure to switch the flip on the PSU. The motherboard standoffs are installed. The 24 pin connector is on the motherboard for sure. The 8 pin for my CPU took a while, because I had only 4 for my motherboard, but figured out the 8 pin could be two 4 pin connectors, so I detached one and plugged that in next to the CPU. Though I'm not sure what you mean by case headers. I'm assuming that's the cables that came with my tower/case. Was checking my case headers (assuming I assumed what they were correctly in my last two sentences), it turns out there were 5 mini pins I forgot to connect. They were called like "Power S, HDD LED, P+, and etc". I'll try plugging those in and seeing how it works out.
Power S sounds suspiciously like "power switch" and yes, those are the ones I meant. Since the power switch on the case can't tell the mobo to boot without that wire... you get the idea? Easy to miss. You wouldn't believe the full list of dumb shit I've pulled off working on PCs. The better you are, the longer the list of boneheaded fuckups gets. And the more inexcusable most of them are.
I feel silly, because I can't find any single place to place them in my motherboard lol....
There should be a row of pins, usually next to the SATA ports on the motherboard. Check the manual if you can't find them. You'd feel sillier if you'd done something like disassemble your GPUs for cleaning and re-pasting and forgetting to plug in the PCIE connectors to them, or the SLI bridge afterwards, and were me. I've done both.
Okay well an update to my computer building endeavors. After 5 hours of troubleshooting I got my computer to boot up. Everything works but the monitor and CPU fan. The monitor doesn't seem to be recognized and the CPU fan is not moving for some reason. Any thoughts? I hope I didn't already damage my CPU
Is the CPU cooler attached to the right pins on the motherboard? Is the monitor attached to the motherboard, or the GPU? Did you connect the PCIE cables to the GPU? Did you get POST beeps?
Yes I think the CPU Stock Cooler is attached correctly. It made some clicks after I pressed it into the mother board. My monitor is attatched to the motherboard, the GPU didn't seem to have any ports for some reason. Yes I did attach my PCI-E cables to the GPU. And yes I got one short beep after turning on my computer.
Edit:
Okay well this is weird. After trying it once more, the CPU fan now works. Though the monitor still shows no display. However, the CPU fan is make a really loud noise. I think it's hitting my wire for the CPU fan, though I'm not completely sure. The wire is like already stuck to the CPU fan so I can't adjust it really.Last edit: 2012-06-02 12:49:41 |
| |
|
| JingleHell United States. June 02 2012 12:53. Posts 11262 | Profile Blog # |
On June 02 2012 12:47 Sovano wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 12:44 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 12:40 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:08 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:05 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:02 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:01 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 08:51 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 08:46 Sovano wrote:
Today I received all of my parts to build my computer. I installed all of the hardware components, and plugged in all the PSU cables. To no surprise the computer did not turn on. The PSU cables I think is where my problem is residing, because I'm pretty sure all the hardware was put in correctly. It might also be notable to mention that my tower came with some cables of its own. USB and SATA I think? I plugged in the USB fine, though I couldn't find anything to use the SATA cables for. I'm using a Corsair 500W ATX12V Power Supply and NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case. Thought I'd at least post here while I continue to troubleshoot.
Did you flip the switch on the back of the PSU? Did you install motherboard standoffs? Did you plug in both the 24pin motherboard, and either a 4pin or 8pin for the CPU? Did you hook up the case headers properly to the motherboard?
Yes I made sure to switch the flip on the PSU. The motherboard standoffs are installed. The 24 pin connector is on the motherboard for sure. The 8 pin for my CPU took a while, because I had only 4 for my motherboard, but figured out the 8 pin could be two 4 pin connectors, so I detached one and plugged that in next to the CPU. Though I'm not sure what you mean by case headers. I'm assuming that's the cables that came with my tower/case. Was checking my case headers (assuming I assumed what they were correctly in my last two sentences), it turns out there were 5 mini pins I forgot to connect. They were called like "Power S, HDD LED, P+, and etc". I'll try plugging those in and seeing how it works out.
Power S sounds suspiciously like "power switch" and yes, those are the ones I meant. Since the power switch on the case can't tell the mobo to boot without that wire... you get the idea? Easy to miss. You wouldn't believe the full list of dumb shit I've pulled off working on PCs. The better you are, the longer the list of boneheaded fuckups gets. And the more inexcusable most of them are.
I feel silly, because I can't find any single place to place them in my motherboard lol....
There should be a row of pins, usually next to the SATA ports on the motherboard. Check the manual if you can't find them. You'd feel sillier if you'd done something like disassemble your GPUs for cleaning and re-pasting and forgetting to plug in the PCIE connectors to them, or the SLI bridge afterwards, and were me. I've done both.
Okay well an update to my computer building endeavors. After 5 hours of troubleshooting I got my computer to boot up. Everything works but the monitor and CPU fan. The monitor doesn't seem to be recognized and the CPU fan is not moving for some reason. Any thoughts? I hope I didn't already damage my CPU
Is the CPU cooler attached to the right pins on the motherboard? Is the monitor attached to the motherboard, or the GPU? Did you connect the PCIE cables to the GPU? Did you get POST beeps?
Yes I think the CPU Stock Cooler is attached correctly. It made some clicks after I pressed it into the mother board. My monitor is attatched to the motherboard, the GPU didn't seem to have any ports for some reason. Yes I did attach my PCI-E cables to the GPU. And yes I got one short beep after turning on my computer. Edit: Okay well this is weird. After trying it once more, the CPU fan now works. Though the monitor still shows no display. However, the CPU fan is make a really loud noise. I think it's hitting my wire for the CPU fan, though I'm not completely sure. The wire is like already stuck to the CPU fan so I can't adjust it really.
Sounds like the wire is in the fan, yeah, try loosening it in the clips, it should slide. Be firm but gentle. Your GPU should have ports, and if it's plugged in, the integrated graphics should be disabled, which is why your monitor isn't getting shit. How do you figure your GPU doesn't have ports? Did you remember to take off the back panel covers? |
| | http://jinglehelltech.blogspot.com -- Pics of my rig in Profile |
|
|
| Sovano United States. June 02 2012 12:59. Posts 1265 | Profile # |
On June 02 2012 12:53 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 12:47 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 12:44 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 12:40 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:08 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:05 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:02 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:01 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 08:51 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 08:46 Sovano wrote:
Today I received all of my parts to build my computer. I installed all of the hardware components, and plugged in all the PSU cables. To no surprise the computer did not turn on. The PSU cables I think is where my problem is residing, because I'm pretty sure all the hardware was put in correctly. It might also be notable to mention that my tower came with some cables of its own. USB and SATA I think? I plugged in the USB fine, though I couldn't find anything to use the SATA cables for. I'm using a Corsair 500W ATX12V Power Supply and NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case. Thought I'd at least post here while I continue to troubleshoot.
Did you flip the switch on the back of the PSU? Did you install motherboard standoffs? Did you plug in both the 24pin motherboard, and either a 4pin or 8pin for the CPU? Did you hook up the case headers properly to the motherboard?
Yes I made sure to switch the flip on the PSU. The motherboard standoffs are installed. The 24 pin connector is on the motherboard for sure. The 8 pin for my CPU took a while, because I had only 4 for my motherboard, but figured out the 8 pin could be two 4 pin connectors, so I detached one and plugged that in next to the CPU. Though I'm not sure what you mean by case headers. I'm assuming that's the cables that came with my tower/case. Was checking my case headers (assuming I assumed what they were correctly in my last two sentences), it turns out there were 5 mini pins I forgot to connect. They were called like "Power S, HDD LED, P+, and etc". I'll try plugging those in and seeing how it works out.
Power S sounds suspiciously like "power switch" and yes, those are the ones I meant. Since the power switch on the case can't tell the mobo to boot without that wire... you get the idea? Easy to miss. You wouldn't believe the full list of dumb shit I've pulled off working on PCs. The better you are, the longer the list of boneheaded fuckups gets. And the more inexcusable most of them are.
I feel silly, because I can't find any single place to place them in my motherboard lol....
There should be a row of pins, usually next to the SATA ports on the motherboard. Check the manual if you can't find them. You'd feel sillier if you'd done something like disassemble your GPUs for cleaning and re-pasting and forgetting to plug in the PCIE connectors to them, or the SLI bridge afterwards, and were me. I've done both.
Okay well an update to my computer building endeavors. After 5 hours of troubleshooting I got my computer to boot up. Everything works but the monitor and CPU fan. The monitor doesn't seem to be recognized and the CPU fan is not moving for some reason. Any thoughts? I hope I didn't already damage my CPU
Is the CPU cooler attached to the right pins on the motherboard? Is the monitor attached to the motherboard, or the GPU? Did you connect the PCIE cables to the GPU? Did you get POST beeps?
Yes I think the CPU Stock Cooler is attached correctly. It made some clicks after I pressed it into the mother board. My monitor is attatched to the motherboard, the GPU didn't seem to have any ports for some reason. Yes I did attach my PCI-E cables to the GPU. And yes I got one short beep after turning on my computer. Edit: Okay well this is weird. After trying it once more, the CPU fan now works. Though the monitor still shows no display. However, the CPU fan is make a really loud noise. I think it's hitting my wire for the CPU fan, though I'm not completely sure. The wire is like already stuck to the CPU fan so I can't adjust it really.
Sounds like the wire is in the fan, yeah, try loosening it in the clips, it should slide. Be firm but gentle. Your GPU should have ports, and if it's plugged in, the integrated graphics should be disabled, which is why your monitor isn't getting shit. How do you figure your GPU doesn't have ports? Did you remember to take off the back panel covers?
Yeah I double checked and manually spun the CPU fan, it hits one of my wires ever so slightly. I'll re-adjust that in the morning since my eyes are starting to shut on me. Yes I took out those things in the back so my GPU's ports are shown in the back of my case.
This is my monitor I'm trying to use:
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-X183H-18-5-Inch-LCD-Monitor/dp/B001ER6CCI?tag=tealiq-20
This is the GPU I just bought:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150561&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-Video%20Cards-_-XFX-_-14150561&AID=10440897&PID=3938566&SID=
The monitor has a blue plug (sorry don't know the technical name), while the GPU has ports that are not only larger than what my monitor uses, but also it's not really the right shape.Last edit: 2012-06-02 13:00:25 |
| |
|
| JingleHell United States. June 02 2012 13:13. Posts 11262 | Profile Blog # |
On June 02 2012 12:59 Sovano wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 12:53 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 12:47 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 12:44 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 12:40 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:08 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:05 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:02 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:01 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 08:51 JingleHell wrote:
[quote]
Did you flip the switch on the back of the PSU? Did you install motherboard standoffs? Did you plug in both the 24pin motherboard, and either a 4pin or 8pin for the CPU? Did you hook up the case headers properly to the motherboard?
Yes I made sure to switch the flip on the PSU. The motherboard standoffs are installed. The 24 pin connector is on the motherboard for sure. The 8 pin for my CPU took a while, because I had only 4 for my motherboard, but figured out the 8 pin could be two 4 pin connectors, so I detached one and plugged that in next to the CPU. Though I'm not sure what you mean by case headers. I'm assuming that's the cables that came with my tower/case. Was checking my case headers (assuming I assumed what they were correctly in my last two sentences), it turns out there were 5 mini pins I forgot to connect. They were called like "Power S, HDD LED, P+, and etc". I'll try plugging those in and seeing how it works out.
Power S sounds suspiciously like "power switch" and yes, those are the ones I meant. Since the power switch on the case can't tell the mobo to boot without that wire... you get the idea? Easy to miss. You wouldn't believe the full list of dumb shit I've pulled off working on PCs. The better you are, the longer the list of boneheaded fuckups gets. And the more inexcusable most of them are.
I feel silly, because I can't find any single place to place them in my motherboard lol....
There should be a row of pins, usually next to the SATA ports on the motherboard. Check the manual if you can't find them. You'd feel sillier if you'd done something like disassemble your GPUs for cleaning and re-pasting and forgetting to plug in the PCIE connectors to them, or the SLI bridge afterwards, and were me. I've done both.
Okay well an update to my computer building endeavors. After 5 hours of troubleshooting I got my computer to boot up. Everything works but the monitor and CPU fan. The monitor doesn't seem to be recognized and the CPU fan is not moving for some reason. Any thoughts? I hope I didn't already damage my CPU
Is the CPU cooler attached to the right pins on the motherboard? Is the monitor attached to the motherboard, or the GPU? Did you connect the PCIE cables to the GPU? Did you get POST beeps?
Yes I think the CPU Stock Cooler is attached correctly. It made some clicks after I pressed it into the mother board. My monitor is attatched to the motherboard, the GPU didn't seem to have any ports for some reason. Yes I did attach my PCI-E cables to the GPU. And yes I got one short beep after turning on my computer. Edit: Okay well this is weird. After trying it once more, the CPU fan now works. Though the monitor still shows no display. However, the CPU fan is make a really loud noise. I think it's hitting my wire for the CPU fan, though I'm not completely sure. The wire is like already stuck to the CPU fan so I can't adjust it really.
Sounds like the wire is in the fan, yeah, try loosening it in the clips, it should slide. Be firm but gentle. Your GPU should have ports, and if it's plugged in, the integrated graphics should be disabled, which is why your monitor isn't getting shit. How do you figure your GPU doesn't have ports? Did you remember to take off the back panel covers?
Yeah I double checked and manually spun the CPU fan, it hits one of my wires ever so slightly. I'll re-adjust that in the morning since my eyes are starting to shut on me. Yes I took out those things in the back so my GPU's ports are shown in the back of my case. This is my monitor I'm trying to use: http://www.amazon.com/Acer-X183H-18-5-Inch-LCD-Monitor/dp/B001ER6CCI?tag=tealiq-20This is the GPU I just bought: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150561&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-Video%20Cards-_-XFX-_-14150561&AID=10440897&PID=3938566&SID=The monitor has a blue plug (sorry don't know the technical name), while the GPU has ports that are not only larger than what my monitor uses, but also it's not really the right shape.
I'd expect your GPU came with a VGA-DVI adapter that would let you connect the display to the GPU. If not, you can buy one cheap. |
| | http://jinglehelltech.blogspot.com -- Pics of my rig in Profile |
|
|
| TheToast United States. June 02 2012 13:20. Posts 4804 | Profile Blog # |
On June 02 2012 13:13 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 12:59 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 12:53 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 12:47 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 12:44 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 12:40 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:08 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:05 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:02 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:01 Sovano wrote:
[quote]
Yes I made sure to switch the flip on the PSU. The motherboard standoffs are installed. The 24 pin connector is on the motherboard for sure. The 8 pin for my CPU took a while, because I had only 4 for my motherboard, but figured out the 8 pin could be two 4 pin connectors, so I detached one and plugged that in next to the CPU. Though I'm not sure what you mean by case headers. I'm assuming that's the cables that came with my tower/case.
Was checking my case headers (assuming I assumed what they were correctly in my last two sentences), it turns out there were 5 mini pins I forgot to connect. They were called like "Power S, HDD LED, P+, and etc". I'll try plugging those in and seeing how it works out.
Power S sounds suspiciously like "power switch" and yes, those are the ones I meant. Since the power switch on the case can't tell the mobo to boot without that wire... you get the idea? Easy to miss. You wouldn't believe the full list of dumb shit I've pulled off working on PCs. The better you are, the longer the list of boneheaded fuckups gets. And the more inexcusable most of them are.
I feel silly, because I can't find any single place to place them in my motherboard lol....
There should be a row of pins, usually next to the SATA ports on the motherboard. Check the manual if you can't find them. You'd feel sillier if you'd done something like disassemble your GPUs for cleaning and re-pasting and forgetting to plug in the PCIE connectors to them, or the SLI bridge afterwards, and were me. I've done both.
Okay well an update to my computer building endeavors. After 5 hours of troubleshooting I got my computer to boot up. Everything works but the monitor and CPU fan. The monitor doesn't seem to be recognized and the CPU fan is not moving for some reason. Any thoughts? I hope I didn't already damage my CPU
Is the CPU cooler attached to the right pins on the motherboard? Is the monitor attached to the motherboard, or the GPU? Did you connect the PCIE cables to the GPU? Did you get POST beeps?
Yes I think the CPU Stock Cooler is attached correctly. It made some clicks after I pressed it into the mother board. My monitor is attatched to the motherboard, the GPU didn't seem to have any ports for some reason. Yes I did attach my PCI-E cables to the GPU. And yes I got one short beep after turning on my computer. Edit: Okay well this is weird. After trying it once more, the CPU fan now works. Though the monitor still shows no display. However, the CPU fan is make a really loud noise. I think it's hitting my wire for the CPU fan, though I'm not completely sure. The wire is like already stuck to the CPU fan so I can't adjust it really.
Sounds like the wire is in the fan, yeah, try loosening it in the clips, it should slide. Be firm but gentle. Your GPU should have ports, and if it's plugged in, the integrated graphics should be disabled, which is why your monitor isn't getting shit. How do you figure your GPU doesn't have ports? Did you remember to take off the back panel covers?
Yeah I double checked and manually spun the CPU fan, it hits one of my wires ever so slightly. I'll re-adjust that in the morning since my eyes are starting to shut on me. Yes I took out those things in the back so my GPU's ports are shown in the back of my case. This is my monitor I'm trying to use: http://www.amazon.com/Acer-X183H-18-5-Inch-LCD-Monitor/dp/B001ER6CCI?tag=tealiq-20This is the GPU I just bought: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150561&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-Video%20Cards-_-XFX-_-14150561&AID=10440897&PID=3938566&SID=The monitor has a blue plug (sorry don't know the technical name), while the GPU has ports that are not only larger than what my monitor uses, but also it's not really the right shape.
I'd expect your GPU came with a VGA-DVI adapter that would let you connect the display to the GPU. If not, you can buy one cheap.
You mean DVI to VGA.
There's a pretty big difference, VGA to DVI adapters are pretty expensive and I don't want him getting confused.
Anyway, the Amazon tech specs don't specify, but I suspect the monitor supports DVI but just doesn't have a cable. Would make a lot more sense to invest in one as you will get clearer crisper images among other benefits. |
| | I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid. | |
|
|
| JingleHell United States. June 02 2012 13:23. Posts 11262 | Profile Blog # |
On June 02 2012 13:20 TheToast wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 13:13 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 12:59 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 12:53 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 12:47 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 12:44 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 12:40 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:08 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:05 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:02 JingleHell wrote:
[quote]
Power S sounds suspiciously like "power switch" and yes, those are the ones I meant. Since the power switch on the case can't tell the mobo to boot without that wire... you get the idea?
Easy to miss. You wouldn't believe the full list of dumb shit I've pulled off working on PCs. The better you are, the longer the list of boneheaded fuckups gets. And the more inexcusable most of them are.
I feel silly, because I can't find any single place to place them in my motherboard lol....
There should be a row of pins, usually next to the SATA ports on the motherboard. Check the manual if you can't find them. You'd feel sillier if you'd done something like disassemble your GPUs for cleaning and re-pasting and forgetting to plug in the PCIE connectors to them, or the SLI bridge afterwards, and were me. I've done both.
Okay well an update to my computer building endeavors. After 5 hours of troubleshooting I got my computer to boot up. Everything works but the monitor and CPU fan. The monitor doesn't seem to be recognized and the CPU fan is not moving for some reason. Any thoughts? I hope I didn't already damage my CPU
Is the CPU cooler attached to the right pins on the motherboard? Is the monitor attached to the motherboard, or the GPU? Did you connect the PCIE cables to the GPU? Did you get POST beeps?
Yes I think the CPU Stock Cooler is attached correctly. It made some clicks after I pressed it into the mother board. My monitor is attatched to the motherboard, the GPU didn't seem to have any ports for some reason. Yes I did attach my PCI-E cables to the GPU. And yes I got one short beep after turning on my computer. Edit: Okay well this is weird. After trying it once more, the CPU fan now works. Though the monitor still shows no display. However, the CPU fan is make a really loud noise. I think it's hitting my wire for the CPU fan, though I'm not completely sure. The wire is like already stuck to the CPU fan so I can't adjust it really.
Sounds like the wire is in the fan, yeah, try loosening it in the clips, it should slide. Be firm but gentle. Your GPU should have ports, and if it's plugged in, the integrated graphics should be disabled, which is why your monitor isn't getting shit. How do you figure your GPU doesn't have ports? Did you remember to take off the back panel covers?
Yeah I double checked and manually spun the CPU fan, it hits one of my wires ever so slightly. I'll re-adjust that in the morning since my eyes are starting to shut on me. Yes I took out those things in the back so my GPU's ports are shown in the back of my case. This is my monitor I'm trying to use: http://www.amazon.com/Acer-X183H-18-5-Inch-LCD-Monitor/dp/B001ER6CCI?tag=tealiq-20This is the GPU I just bought: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150561&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-Video%20Cards-_-XFX-_-14150561&AID=10440897&PID=3938566&SID=The monitor has a blue plug (sorry don't know the technical name), while the GPU has ports that are not only larger than what my monitor uses, but also it's not really the right shape.
I'd expect your GPU came with a VGA-DVI adapter that would let you connect the display to the GPU. If not, you can buy one cheap.
You mean DVI to VGA. There's a pretty big difference, VGA to DVI adapters are pretty expensive and I don't want him getting confused. Anyway, the Amazon tech specs don't specify, but I suspect the monitor supports DVI but just doesn't have a cable. Would make a lot more sense to invest in one as you will get clearer crisper images among other benefits.
Yeah, I'm tired, thanks. |
| | http://jinglehelltech.blogspot.com -- Pics of my rig in Profile |
|
|
| Sovano United States. June 02 2012 13:30. Posts 1265 | Profile # |
On June 02 2012 13:20 TheToast wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 13:13 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 12:59 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 12:53 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 12:47 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 12:44 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 12:40 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:08 JingleHell wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:05 Sovano wrote:
On June 02 2012 09:02 JingleHell wrote:
[quote]
Power S sounds suspiciously like "power switch" and yes, those are the ones I meant. Since the power switch on the case can't tell the mobo to boot without that wire... you get the idea?
Easy to miss. You wouldn't believe the full list of dumb shit I've pulled off working on PCs. The better you are, the longer the list of boneheaded fuckups gets. And the more inexcusable most of them are.
I feel silly, because I can't find any single place to place them in my motherboard lol....
There should be a row of pins, usually next to the SATA ports on the motherboard. Check the manual if you can't find them. You'd feel sillier if you'd done something like disassemble your GPUs for cleaning and re-pasting and forgetting to plug in the PCIE connectors to them, or the SLI bridge afterwards, and were me. I've done both.
Okay well an update to my computer building endeavors. After 5 hours of troubleshooting I got my computer to boot up. Everything works but the monitor and CPU fan. The monitor doesn't seem to be recognized and the CPU fan is not moving for some reason. Any thoughts? I hope I didn't already damage my CPU
Is the CPU cooler attached to the right pins on the motherboard? Is the monitor attached to the motherboard, or the GPU? Did you connect the PCIE cables to the GPU? Did you get POST beeps?
Yes I think the CPU Stock Cooler is attached correctly. It made some clicks after I pressed it into the mother board. My monitor is attatched to the motherboard, the GPU didn't seem to have any ports for some reason. Yes I did attach my PCI-E cables to the GPU. And yes I got one short beep after turning on my computer. Edit: Okay well this is weird. After trying it once more, the CPU fan now works. Though the monitor still shows no display. However, the CPU fan is make a really loud noise. I think it's hitting my wire for the CPU fan, though I'm not completely sure. The wire is like already stuck to the CPU fan so I can't adjust it really.
Sounds like the wire is in the fan, yeah, try loosening it in the clips, it should slide. Be firm but gentle. Your GPU should have ports, and if it's plugged in, the integrated graphics should be disabled, which is why your monitor isn't getting shit. How do you figure your GPU doesn't have ports? Did you remember to take off the back panel covers?
Yeah I double checked and manually spun the CPU fan, it hits one of my wires ever so slightly. I'll re-adjust that in the morning since my eyes are starting to shut on me. Yes I took out those things in the back so my GPU's ports are shown in the back of my case. This is my monitor I'm trying to use: http://www.amazon.com/Acer-X183H-18-5-Inch-LCD-Monitor/dp/B001ER6CCI?tag=tealiq-20This is the GPU I just bought: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150561&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-Video%20Cards-_-XFX-_-14150561&AID=10440897&PID=3938566&SID=The monitor has a blue plug (sorry don't know the technical name), while the GPU has ports that are not only larger than what my monitor uses, but also it's not really the right shape.
I'd expect your GPU came with a VGA-DVI adapter that would let you connect the display to the GPU. If not, you can buy one cheap.
You mean DVI to VGA. There's a pretty big difference, VGA to DVI adapters are pretty expensive and I don't want him getting confused. Anyway, the Amazon tech specs don't specify, but I suspect the monitor supports DVI but just doesn't have a cable. Would make a lot more sense to invest in one as you will get clearer crisper images among other benefits.
I want to upgrade my monitor, but my budget is tight as is at the moment. So I pretty much have to settle down with my current monitor now.
So would something like this work?
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0365840 |
| |
|
| Womwomwom June 02 2012 13:51. Posts 5517 | Profile Blog # |
| Acer X183H has a DVI port. Just buy a DVI cable. Last edit: 2012-06-02 13:52:19 |
|
|
| Sovano United States. June 02 2012 14:00. Posts 1265 | Profile # |
On June 02 2012 13:51 Womwomwom wrote:Acer X183H has a DVI port. Just buy a DVI cable.
Oh jeez I read Toast's post wrong after the adapter part. Good sign I should go to sleep now. Okay that sounds a lot more simpler. Thanks for the help everyone, hopefully my monitor will work and I can get my computer up and going tomorrow =) |
| |
|
| Sovano United States. June 03 2012 01:15. Posts 1265 | Profile # |
I hate to bump a thread especially if I was the last one to post, but I ran into another problem. I got everything working, and attempted to install Windows 7 Home Premium onto my computer. It installed and when I attempted to enter in my product key, it said it was invalid. I realized that the OS I had bought off craigslist was actually an upgrade for Windows Vista or XP. So basically my question is..is it possible for me to just download Windows XP and burn it on CD discs to install and try upgrading from that? As far as I'm aware I don't think any retail stores near me sell Windows XP or Vista anymore.
Edit:
I noticed my broken computer had it's product key on the side of the case. So I'm going to download Windows XP Home Edition (as that was what the product key was for), and try upgrading from that.Last edit: 2012-06-03 01:30:01 |
| |
|
| Blitzkrieg0 United States. June 03 2012 01:47. Posts 4752 | Profile Blog # |
| Occasionally when I turn my computer on the top case fan gets stuck on something and makes obnoxious noises. This happens maybe once a week or two (built my computer ~6 months ago) and I've never been able to find anything wrong with it when I open it up to see what it is hitting and afterwards it mysteriously stops making obnoxious noises. Is it something I should be worried about or is there something simple that I'm missing that is causing the issue. |
| | I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur. | |
|
|
| Zushen June 03 2012 04:14. Posts 275 | Profile # |
Last edit: 2012-06-03 04:15:51 |
|
|
| baconberry United States. June 04 2012 02:50. Posts 6 | Profile # |
My function keys dont work the way they used to, in-game my f10 key just centers my screen around whatever i have selected instead of going to the menu like it's supposed to, in the hotkeys section it still says that f10 = menu and when i try to put in an alternative and set it as f10, it says that i just set it as ctrl+shift+R, i think that it is also not working out of game because my f5 button doesn't refresh pages any more, i'm not completely sure what my key board is, it just says Dynex on the front
Thanks♥ |
| | All your base are belong to us |
|
|
| Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 100 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 200 300 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 Next | |
|
|
|
| |
|
Sidebar Settings...
|
Store
