Website Feedback
Closed Threads
IRC Chat
irc.quakenet.org #teamliquid
IRC Web ClientTeamSpeak 3 (45 users) | |
|
 Womwomwom July 06 2012 14:10. Posts 5517 | Profile Blog # |
| A very big difference. The HD6850 will eat the 8800GTX like it was nothing while being quieter and consuming far less power (did the 8800GTX even have an idle mode?). |
|
|
| Sid(TB) United States. July 06 2012 14:20. Posts 282 | Profile Blog # |
never heard of idle mode and ive had it for years >.> so doubt it. so ive been looking at benchmark charts, and trying to decide if thats how much i want to spend or if upgrading like 50$ would be better, to something like
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162085
GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 2GB 256-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130759
GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5
it seems alot of sites say the 480 is really good, but the memory is less, but higher bit rate. also i look at core clock speed and such and it seems they are pretty simular in other aspects, heres a site i was looking at about performance rating.
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html#
as you can see the 480 is rated pretty highly for alot less money, and it shows its actually better than the 6950 and is 50$ cheaper. i could prob get a family member to spot me 50$ if you guys think its a large enough upgrade? how much is 20% better? or w/e i dont know how to rate performance. i know anything i guess since u said the 6850 is a huge upgrade, will make me happy, but i dont want to upgrade again for atleast 2-3 hours (this graphics card is prob closer to 5-6 and still works >.>)
thanks again for the quick info. |
| |
|
| Myrmidon United States. July 06 2012 14:26. Posts 8493 | Profile Blog # |
On July 06 2012 13:12 taldarimAltar wrote:
Any good earphone/earbud review sites that aare impartial? Google turns up sponsored sites or cnet.
Like Womwomwom mentioned, InnerFidelity is okay. There's not too much else. Unfortunately, they don't do many IEM reviews, mostly portable and fullsize headphones. The main writer at IF is usually good.
head-fi is mostly full of junk, but you can start here:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/478568/multi-iem-review-245-iems-compared-phonak-pfe-232-added-07-05-12/30
http://www.head-fi.org/t/541204/concise-multi-iem-comparison-rha-ma-350-added-june-23th-2012
Some sites take some acoustic measurements, but note that some results are suspect. Furthermore, there's not really one established standard on how raw frequency response data should be normalized (not to mention test setups being different), so results are not comparable between websites. But there's a lot of good information worth a look.
http://www.innerfidelity.com/headphone-data-sheet-downloads
http://en.goldenears.net/index.php?mid=GR_Headphones&category=275
http://doctorhead.ru/base_report
http://www.headphone.com/learning-center/build-a-graph.php
http://www.headphoneinfo.com/
http://www.geocities.jp/ryumatsuba/review.html
HD 6850 is probably somewhere around twice as fast as the 8800 GTX? That's a whole lot of money on a GTX 560, by the way, which is not any faster than a heavily factory overclocked GTX 460 (which goes for $140 before rebate these days, and is faster than a HD 6850 by a bit).
GTX 480 is really power hungry, really hot, and really loud. About $210 for that level of performance is good, though, if you can stand having it in your system. |
|
|
| Womwomwom July 06 2012 14:29. Posts 5517 | Profile Blog # |
Yeah don't look at those video card benchmarks. Why? Because what exactly do they tell you? Nothing at all. You need to put everything into context.
This isn't the most academically honest way of doing explaining it, because it doesn't take into account system upgrades and driver updates, but it should give a general idea of the situation. Using this really old review, the 8800GT can end up being 10% slower than your 8800GTX at really obscene resolutions where the limited RAM is obviously choking it. Using this more recent benchmark, the HD6850 basically runs circles around the 8800GT.
Edit:
Talking about the video card benchmarks not the audio measurements above. Its like smartphone Sunpsider scores...in the real world, who the hell cares man? It doesn't explain anything at all. Use relevant benchmarks (for you, that would be video games and video games alone) if you're going to look at benchmarks at all.
Real talk: I hate tech reviewers. 99% of them are dead useless. Last edit: 2012-07-06 14:43:01 |
|
|
 JingleHell United States. July 06 2012 22:15. Posts 11262 | Profile Blog # |
On July 06 2012 14:29 Womwomwom wrote:
Real talk: I hate tech reviewers. 99% of them are dead useless.
I wouldn't put that at dead useless, because they're using passmark. Uselessness usually implies that it's not distinctly counterproductive. Dead useless is considerably better than passmark,, which assigns a score based on some combination of model number, price, and how many lapdances it's developers got the night before. |
| | http://jinglehelltech.blogspot.com -- Pics of my rig in Profile |
|
|
| MisterFred United States. July 07 2012 00:27. Posts 1821 | Profile # |
On July 06 2012 14:20 Sid(TB) wrote:+ Show Spoiler +never heard of idle mode and ive had it for years >.> so doubt it. so ive been looking at benchmark charts, and trying to decide if thats how much i want to spend or if upgrading like 50$ would be better, to something like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162085 GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 2GB 256-bit http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130759GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 it seems alot of sites say the 480 is really good, but the memory is less, but higher bit rate. also i look at core clock speed and such and it seems they are pretty simular in other aspects, heres a site i was looking at about performance rating. http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html#as you can see the 480 is rated pretty highly for alot less money, and it shows its actually better than the 6950 and is 50$ cheaper. i could prob get a family member to spot me 50$ if you guys think its a large enough upgrade? how much is 20% better? or w/e i dont know how to rate performance. i know anything i guess since u said the 6850 is a huge upgrade, will make me happy, but i dont want to upgrade again for atleast 2-3 hours (this graphics card is prob closer to 5-6 and still works >.>) thanks again for the quick info.
Quick primer on video card RAM (simplified version): If you have a 1920x1080 or less resolution (and you do, unless you have a huge screen), 1GB or more is enough for you. More will not help. RAM is not an indicator of video card performance, other factors influence a card's actual performance.
Two good video card upgrades:
EVGA 460 (very bottom of linked page): Much better than your current card. Quite cheap.
http://www.evga.com/products/prodlist.asp?switch=20
If you were going into the 200ish range, this is probably the best way to go. Better than the 480. Quieter & cooler, too:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150617Last edit: 2012-07-07 00:27:29 |
| | "The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor |
|
|
| autoexec United States. July 07 2012 01:17. Posts 373 | Profile Blog # |
I just build a custom computer about 2 months ago. I use it everyday for starcraft, other gaming, stream watching, and general browsing. I have also downloaded a few torrents. (legal of course  ) My internet has now visibly slowed. I used to be able to watch streams in 720p. Now I can only in 480p. Would anything I have been doing that I listed caused this? |
| | All I can say that Sauron would have made a bad starcraft player, his map awareness is very bad and he keeps staring at the fights instead of returning back to his base to do stuff there. |
|
|
| TheToast United States. July 07 2012 01:22. Posts 4804 | Profile Blog # |
On July 07 2012 01:17 autoexec wrote:I just build a custom computer about 2 months ago. I use it everyday for starcraft, other gaming, stream watching, and general browsing. I have also downloaded a few torrents. (legal of course ) My internet has now visibly slowed. I used to be able to watch streams in 720p. Now I can only in 480p. Would anything I have been doing that I listed caused this?
Let me say this, none of the things you mentioned could cause that. Something you did, like downloading a virus, could've slowed your interent.
Though I suspect the real cause lies elsewhere. If there's someone else on your network, it's possible they have a virus or are downloading stuff; it's also possible your internet provider is throttling you for some reason. Could also be an Abobe Flash issue with the most recent version of your browser.
Saying that you used to watch 720 and now can only watch 480 is totally subjective, and can't really narrow down anything at all. If you want to look into the issue more closely you'll need to do some basic monitoring of the network traffic coming to and from your PC (resource monitor in Windows 7 can do this) as well as some basic testing of your interent speed using something like speedtest.net |
| | I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid. | |
|
|
| PassiveAce United States. July 07 2012 01:25. Posts 4364 | Profile Blog # |
I have no idea where to ask this so il put it here
I have a question about VLC.
Sometimes after updating VLC it wont run the audio from any of my video files. I think iv tried it with mp4 and avi files and it always runs the video fine but I get no audio, iv been reduced to using windows media player. It doesnt seem to be a problem with the preferences, and reinstalling doesnt fix it, can anyone help? |
| | "I'm gonna wring your pants" || Official FireboltGamer (1 of around 9) |
|
|
| Sid(TB) United States. July 07 2012 01:31. Posts 282 | Profile Blog # |
On July 07 2012 00:27 MisterFred wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 14:20 Sid(TB) wrote:+ Show Spoiler +never heard of idle mode and ive had it for years >.> so doubt it. so ive been looking at benchmark charts, and trying to decide if thats how much i want to spend or if upgrading like 50$ would be better, to something like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162085 GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 2GB 256-bit http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130759GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 it seems alot of sites say the 480 is really good, but the memory is less, but higher bit rate. also i look at core clock speed and such and it seems they are pretty simular in other aspects, heres a site i was looking at about performance rating. http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html#as you can see the 480 is rated pretty highly for alot less money, and it shows its actually better than the 6950 and is 50$ cheaper. i could prob get a family member to spot me 50$ if you guys think its a large enough upgrade? how much is 20% better? or w/e i dont know how to rate performance. i know anything i guess since u said the 6850 is a huge upgrade, will make me happy, but i dont want to upgrade again for atleast 2-3 hours (this graphics card is prob closer to 5-6 and still works >.>) thanks again for the quick info.
Quick primer on video card RAM (simplified version): If you have a 1920x1080 or less resolution (and you do, unless you have a huge screen), 1GB or more is enough for you. More will not help. RAM is not an indicator of video card performance, other factors influence a card's actual performance. Two good video card upgrades: EVGA 460 (very bottom of linked page): Much better than your current card. Quite cheap. http://www.evga.com/products/prodlist.asp?switch=20If you were going into the 200ish range, this is probably the best way to go. Better than the 480. Quieter & cooler, too: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150617
so about the 1GB ram being more than enough for that resolution, i use dual monitor's, does this change anything? do i need 2GB for dual? also how much of a difference does bit rate do? (like 256 to 320, or w/e)
like comparing the 7850 you posted to the gtx 570 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127682
thanks again for all the simplified explanations. |
| |
|
| autoexec United States. July 07 2012 01:34. Posts 373 | Profile Blog # |
On July 07 2012 01:22 TheToast wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 01:17 autoexec wrote:I just build a custom computer about 2 months ago. I use it everyday for starcraft, other gaming, stream watching, and general browsing. I have also downloaded a few torrents. (legal of course ) My internet has now visibly slowed. I used to be able to watch streams in 720p. Now I can only in 480p. Would anything I have been doing that I listed caused this?
Let me say this, none of the things you mentioned could cause that. Something you did, like downloading a virus, could've slowed your interent. Though I suspect the real cause lies elsewhere. If there's someone else on your network, it's possible they have a virus or are downloading stuff; it's also possible your internet provider is throttling you for some reason. Could also be an Abobe Flash issue with the most recent version of your browser. Saying that you used to watch 720 and now can only watch 480 is totally subjective, and can't really narrow down anything at all. If you want to look into the issue more closely you'll need to do some basic monitoring of the network traffic coming to and from your PC (resource monitor in Windows 7 can do this) as well as some basic testing of your interent speed using something like speedtest.net
On resource monitor I noticed a ridiculous amount of "utorrent.exe" programs using my network. Like 40 or so. Would that be a problem?
Also, my speeds on speedtest.net have decreased signifigantly. I have lower download speed but not upload speed. My ping has also tripled.
|
| | All I can say that Sauron would have made a bad starcraft player, his map awareness is very bad and he keeps staring at the fights instead of returning back to his base to do stuff there. |
|
|
| TheToast United States. July 07 2012 01:40. Posts 4804 | Profile Blog # |
On July 07 2012 01:34 autoexec wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 01:22 TheToast wrote:
On July 07 2012 01:17 autoexec wrote:I just build a custom computer about 2 months ago. I use it everyday for starcraft, other gaming, stream watching, and general browsing. I have also downloaded a few torrents. (legal of course ) My internet has now visibly slowed. I used to be able to watch streams in 720p. Now I can only in 480p. Would anything I have been doing that I listed caused this?
Let me say this, none of the things you mentioned could cause that. Something you did, like downloading a virus, could've slowed your interent. Though I suspect the real cause lies elsewhere. If there's someone else on your network, it's possible they have a virus or are downloading stuff; it's also possible your internet provider is throttling you for some reason. Could also be an Abobe Flash issue with the most recent version of your browser. Saying that you used to watch 720 and now can only watch 480 is totally subjective, and can't really narrow down anything at all. If you want to look into the issue more closely you'll need to do some basic monitoring of the network traffic coming to and from your PC (resource monitor in Windows 7 can do this) as well as some basic testing of your interent speed using something like speedtest.net
On resource monitor I noticed a ridiculous amount of "utorrent.exe" programs using my network. Like 40 or so. Would that be a problem? Also, my speeds on speedtest.net have decreased signifigantly. I have lower download speed but not upload speed. My ping has also tripled.
For your first question, it depends. Just because something is using a network protocol doesn't mean it's using your bandwidth. Plenty of programs use the 127.0.0.1 loopback to connect to the same device. If the IP it's connecting to is entirely foriegn to your network and the b/s usage is very high; that would indicate utorrent is downloading something in the background that is affecting your speeds. I've not used utorrent, but for most p2p clients unless you specifically turn it off in the options, the client will continue uploading files to other p2p users. Not only does that use up upload and some download bandwidth, but it also makes it possible for your ISP and any other organization to track you for illegal downloading (unless you're regularly connecting to a proxy server or TOR).
You're ping tripling doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, as ping is a measure of latency and not bandwidth. Unless something is really chowing down your bandwidth to the point that a simple ping request is being delayed.
|
| | I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid. | |
|
|
| autoexec United States. July 07 2012 01:53. Posts 373 | Profile Blog # |
On July 07 2012 01:40 TheToast wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 01:34 autoexec wrote:
On July 07 2012 01:22 TheToast wrote:
On July 07 2012 01:17 autoexec wrote:I just build a custom computer about 2 months ago. I use it everyday for starcraft, other gaming, stream watching, and general browsing. I have also downloaded a few torrents. (legal of course ) My internet has now visibly slowed. I used to be able to watch streams in 720p. Now I can only in 480p. Would anything I have been doing that I listed caused this?
Let me say this, none of the things you mentioned could cause that. Something you did, like downloading a virus, could've slowed your interent. Though I suspect the real cause lies elsewhere. If there's someone else on your network, it's possible they have a virus or are downloading stuff; it's also possible your internet provider is throttling you for some reason. Could also be an Abobe Flash issue with the most recent version of your browser. Saying that you used to watch 720 and now can only watch 480 is totally subjective, and can't really narrow down anything at all. If you want to look into the issue more closely you'll need to do some basic monitoring of the network traffic coming to and from your PC (resource monitor in Windows 7 can do this) as well as some basic testing of your interent speed using something like speedtest.net
On resource monitor I noticed a ridiculous amount of "utorrent.exe" programs using my network. Like 40 or so. Would that be a problem? Also, my speeds on speedtest.net have decreased signifigantly. I have lower download speed but not upload speed. My ping has also tripled.
For your first question, it depends. Just because something is using a network protocol doesn't mean it's using your bandwidth. Plenty of programs use the 127.0.0.1 loopback to connect to the same device. If the IP it's connecting to is entirely foriegn to your network and the b/s usage is very high; that would indicate utorrent is downloading something in the background that is affecting your speeds. I've not used utorrent, but for most p2p clients unless you specifically turn it off in the options, the client will continue uploading files to other p2p users. Not only does that use up upload and some download bandwidth, but it also makes it possible for your ISP and any other organization to track you for illegal downloading (unless you're regularly connecting to a proxy server or TOR). You're ping tripling doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, as ping is a measure of latency and not bandwidth. Unless something is really chowing down your bandwidth to the point that a simple ping request is being delayed.
After doing a few runs on speedtest, it seems as my internet has slowed a lot. Keep in mind I had slow internet to begin with, but now it's almost unbearable
Ping stays the same at 50ish ms. (guess that one time was a fluke)
Download Speeds go from 6 Mbps to about 1.25 Mbps
Upload Speeds go from .5 Mbps to .2 Mbps
I know I already had really slow internet, but this seems a bit ridiculous now.
|
| | All I can say that Sauron would have made a bad starcraft player, his map awareness is very bad and he keeps staring at the fights instead of returning back to his base to do stuff there. |
|
|
| Maski Germany. July 07 2012 17:57. Posts 131 | Profile # |
Hello,
I am very interested in the Steelseries 6Gv2 Gaming Keyboard.
http://steelseries.com/products/keyboards/steelseries-6gv2
Since it is pretty expensive I would like to try it out for like 2 minutes (just to see if it feels comfortable) but in the local multimedia stores this product is not available. Is there any way of getting to test it before buying it?
Thanks in advance! |
|
|
| bblack Netherlands. July 07 2012 20:18. Posts 259 | Profile # |
Hi guys,
I'm considering building a new pc, and I was wondering if I could use some old components like my graphics card.
Would it be better to retain my old Sapphire HD5850 1GB GDDR5 PCI-E and crossfire it with a HD5870 (about 350 euros), or get an entirely new card like the XFX Radeon HD7950 Double Dissipation Edition (340 euros) or Sapphire HD 7970 OC Dual-X 3GB?
So, crossfire with a semi-older series or start over with a single card from a newer series? |
|
|
| bblack Netherlands. July 07 2012 20:19. Posts 259 | Profile # |
On July 07 2012 17:57 Maski wrote:Hello, I am very interested in the Steelseries 6Gv2 Gaming Keyboard. http://steelseries.com/products/keyboards/steelseries-6gv2Since it is pretty expensive I would like to try it out for like 2 minutes (just to see if it feels comfortable) but in the local multimedia stores this product is not available. Is there any way of getting to test it before buying it? Thanks in advance!
Thats typically pretty difficult, depending on the country you're in. You'd do wise to ask questions like this in the mechanical keyboard guide thread  |
|
|
| Womwomwom July 07 2012 20:46. Posts 5517 | Profile Blog # |
On July 07 2012 20:18 bblack wrote:
Hi guys,
I'm considering building a new pc, and I was wondering if I could use some old components like my graphics card.
Would it be better to retain my old Sapphire HD5850 1GB GDDR5 PCI-E and crossfire it with a HD5870 (about 350 euros), or get an entirely new card like the XFX Radeon HD7950 Double Dissipation Edition (340 euros) or Sapphire HD 7970 OC Dual-X 3GB?
So, crossfire with a semi-older series or start over with a single card from a newer series?
There's no point doing Crossfire with the HD5000 series. Unless recent drivers have changed something, the scaling of the cards weren't all that great to be honest.
I don't think there's a lot of point ditching the HD5850 just yet. It should still be a very adequate card. Personally I'd keep it and upgrade the GPU next year when new GPUs and new consoles are likely to emerge. |
|
|
| uLysSeS1 Germany. July 07 2012 21:38. Posts 182 | Profile # |
hi,
i'm looking to buy a notebook with a long battery life and have concluded that this one looks nicest:
http://www.goodgearguide.com.au/review/notebooks/acer/aspire_timeline_ultra_m3_ultrabook/426375/specs
the version i'm interested in (since it's not so expensive) is one with an i3-2367m processor and the gt 640m graphics card.
now apart from using the laptop for boring stuff, i'm of course going to use it for sc2 as well the cpu seems to be a bit weak, so i'm not sure if this will be able to process 200/200 battles in 2on2 without having a framerate drop below 20 fps.
can anyone here enlighten me in that regard? thanks in advance.
|
| |
|
| Myrmidon United States. July 08 2012 00:30. Posts 8493 | Profile Blog # |
i3-2367M is too slow. The i3 do not Turbo Boost (dynamic self-overclocking above the nominal clock speed), so it's just a Sandy Bridge dual core stuck at a sad 1.4 GHz. The current Intel processors with model numbers ending in 7 are the low-power versions.
If you were looking at an Ivy Bridge low-power i5, like i5-2467M (1.6 GHz up to 2.1 GHz on two threads, on a slightly better architecture), that might be borderline okay, but still not that good. |
|
|
| Bleak Turkey. July 08 2012 03:17. Posts 2638 | Profile Blog # |
| Can anyone access ATI Driver Update links? I can go to the page where it tells me the latest driver link, but the link is dead, it just does not open. I can't even update it through Catalyst Control Center, it does nothing. |
| | "I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. " |
|
|
| Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 100 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 200 300 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 Next | |
|
|
|
| |
|
Sidebar Settings...
|
Store
